These are the things I have learned from ES, the first one was so rudely deleted with that lovely friendship thread we had going last night.
Never argue with an idiot, because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Trolls do exist, and I'm not talking about the little dolls with green hair.
Please friends, add your own, this site is all about sharing experiences! Posted by Alchemist (Member # 12318) on :
"Massage me" is correctly translated as message me. Posted by VanillaBullshit (Member # 10873) on :
'Free-style English' is widely practiced.
Posted by Muppet from Outer Space (Member # 14028) on :
chinenglish yeah i do write in that alot
the invisible posts maybe you care so much about some you shouldn't
maybe you think so much about some thing doesn't exist
my little experience in here most of people think they know it all been there done that no one care to hear an opinion and its like freedom of speech when you are deaf so you take all you want but to the hand
i think we live to learn and life ends with your learning journey
people here also suspect there hands lol i mean if aguy have like 3 to 5 nick names and he forget one of them he might suspect that nick name is another guy or agirl hiding lol i find it silly and funny
but ah well i met some nice people in here and trust is some thing you gain you don't buy amr
Posted by VanillaBullshit (Member # 10873) on :
If you start a thread looking for advice, it will turn into an orgiastic clusterfuck of ad-hominem attacks after approximately 8.36 posts, or the equivalant of Pi divided by the circumference of said posters attention span.
Posted by bettyN (Member # 14096) on :
that must mean all you guys who have responded to my posts and argued about every single thing really must be idiots. All you guys like to do is put people down and argue with them. Do you guys do the same thing with trolls that some do with gerbles?
Posted by ????? (Member # 12336) on :
The only thing I've learned here that masses of women seem to be seeking...
Posted by of_gold (Member # 13418) on :
quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit: 'Free-style English' is widely practiced.
But, be prepared to have your English critiqued by an Egyptian who thinks his English is better than a native English speaker. Posted by young at heart (Member # 10365) on :
If your a newcomer here, never ask for advice, cause you'll be shot down in flames and be accused of being a troll, then a cat fight will ensue, and your question will be a dark distant memory, then thread will be deleted. Welcome to ES Posted by newcomer (Member # 1056) on :
But I ask questions all the time and I'm not on fire yet, never been accused of being a troll, and am definitely not a distant memory
Btw. what's a gerble and what do people usually do with them? Posted by young at heart (Member # 10365) on :
Oh newcomer, wasn't meaning you Posted by of_gold (Member # 13418) on :
quote:Originally posted by newcomer: But I ask questions all the time and I'm not on fire yet, never been accused of being a troll, and am definitely not a distant memory
Btw. what's a gerble and what do people usually do with them?
Gerbils are little furry animals, kinda like a mouse. It is said that gay men like to put these where no gerbil wants to go.
Posted by young at heart (Member # 10365) on :
Pet shop boys Posted by bettyN (Member # 14096) on :
Thank you young at heart you are so right.
Posted by newcomer (Member # 1056) on :
quote:Originally posted by of_gold: Gerbils are little furry animals, kinda like a mouse. It is said that gay men like to put these where no gerbil wants to go.
Perhaps I shouldn't have asked...I knew what a gerbil was, we used to have them when I was a kid..and they used to eat their babies. Just wondered if a gerble was something different!
Posted by Almaz. (Member # 14025) on :
I've learned that at the root of all schizophrenia symptoms is psychosis: an impaired ability to distinguish between real and unreal perceptions... Posted by VanillaBullshit (Member # 10873) on :
quote:Originally posted by of_gold:
quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit: 'Free-style English' is widely practiced.
But, be prepared to have your English critiqued by an Egyptian who thinks his English is better than a native English speaker.
You're right, a lowly Egyptian is only allowed to speak Arabic, and Native English Speakers are only allowed to speak English. No other languages can possibly be mastered by either.
Damn, you schooled me. Thanks for putting me in my place Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
quote:Originally posted by Alchemist: These are the things I have learned from ES, the first one was so rudely deleted with that lovely friendship thread we had going last night.
Never argue with an idiot, because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Trolls do exist, and I'm not talking about the little dolls with green hair.
Please friends, add your own, this site is all about sharing experiences!
*I've learned on ES that even though nobody ever gets converted in the religion section it does not stop people of different faiths from trying to take swipes at the other.
*I've learned that as soon as someone is nice to you, if they wake up on the wrong side of the bed anything you say can and will be taken out of context and you are from then on their enemy.
*I've learned that it doesn't matter who you are friends with, if someone doesn't like them - that automatically makes you an enemy.
*I've learned that if the thread is funny or entertaining in any way, it will be deleted.
*I've learned that anyone with less than 1000 posts is not to be trusted.
*I've learned that the way some Egyptian men fight is so funny the sheer immaturity of it alone is worth the price of the admission ticket.
*I've learned that some people have really messed up personal lives and it makes me feel better about my own.
*I've learned that no matter what your intention is, somebody is going to take what you say personally and become defensive. I've learned to not try to explain, it doesn't matter and they won't believe you didn't really mean it 'that way'. Posted by Penny (Member # 1925) on :
I have learned from ES that there are a large number of women here that have a huge amount of time on their hands, the result of this is that they have nothing better to do with their time than bitch and fight on ES. They even fail to use that spare time constuctively when a new member comes asking for advice.
ES has always had the potential to be something good, but it will never happen.
The other thing I have learned is the way members on ES portray the country and people of Egypt bears little reality to the real Egypt and the majority of time the atitudes and comments are highly insulting to Egyptians and Egypt.
Posted by VanillaBullshit (Member # 10873) on :
quote:Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers: *I've learned that no matter what your intention is, somebody is going to take what you say personally and become defensive. I've learned to not try to explain, it doesn't matter and they won't believe you didn't really mean it 'that way'.
Biatch, what did you say??!!!!!
Let it be known that Smucky is one of the coolest people here.
Posted by VanillaBullshit (Member # 10873) on :
Ignorance & blind hatred will always be in abundance at es.
Some people believe themselves to be superior to others and make ignorant comments that they believe makes them appear to have strength, but ultimately only reflects their sheer stupidity.
Strength is helping others become strong, weakness & lack of character leads people to attack others with no basis.
Posted by of_gold (Member # 13418) on :
quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit:
quote:Originally posted by of_gold:
quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit: 'Free-style English' is widely practiced.
But, be prepared to have your English critiqued by an Egyptian who thinks his English is better than a native English speaker.
You're right, a lowly Egyptian is only allowed to speak Arabic, and Native English Speakers are only allowed to speak English. No other languages can possibly be mastered by either.
Damn, you schooled me. Thanks for putting me in my place
That's not what I meant but I shouldn't try to explain because Smuckers said and you think she is cool. Plus, I have fewer than 1000 post.
PS. I hope I can master Arabic, I am in my first class. Now learning the alphabet. Posted by lovingmylife (Member # 13695) on :
What I have learned on this board?
I learned a lot about myself.
Posted by cairobug (Member # 10571) on :
This is my first forum, so here are my reflections on it. The lessons I've learned from ES, but as Smucks pointed out--I do have less than 1000 posts (so you're still welcome to doubt my post):
1. It's not about Egypt! I thought it was about Egypt, spiced with some personal things...It's 50/50 (if you're lucky enough to not open one of those threads, until you open one by accident and find your 'name' ).
2. Wow how can there be so many people interested in Egypt?? Where are all these people when I'm trying to get support for community outreach/charity projects/recruiting volunteers.
3. Just like I can't say 'ishtaa' despite fluency in Arabic, Egyptians who make jokes in English also or who try to sound 'down' also come off odd at times (sorry AUC alumni, and aspiring AUC ppl)--though I am fully impressed by their mastery of the language.
4. When you post, and someone disagrees with you the number of people who rate you dramatically increases.
5. I am a troll. ES has helped me realize what I am, thank you wise members (a joke, ha ha, not funny).
6. Egypt is to the UK, what the carribean is to the US.
7. People talk about things that they know nothing about, as if they do. I was really really surprised by that one (my first forum).
8. My spelling and grammer on a post that took 30 seconds, in a forum on the internet, is the measure of my intelligence, not my credentials or academic/career performance.
Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit:
quote:Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers: *I've learned that no matter what your intention is, somebody is going to take what you say personally and become defensive. I've learned to not try to explain, it doesn't matter and they won't believe you didn't really mean it 'that way'.
Biatch, what did you say??!!!!!
Let it be known that Smucky is one of the coolest people here.
I've learned that VB is highly intelligent and anything GOOD he says about me is TRUE.
BTW, when I said 1000 posts I meant as a friendship thing. There is some hacking that goes on from ES so I don't form friendships so easily with anyone I haven't seen on ES for a while..its nothing personal to those who have less than 1000 posts like you're bad or anything. The troll issues also comes up in this regard. Posted by soozi (Member # 11108) on :
quote:Originally posted by of_gold:
quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit: 'Free-style English' is widely practiced.
But, be prepared to have your English critiqued by an Egyptian who thinks his English is better than a native English speaker.
It is better than some I've read from native English speakers.
Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
quote:Originally posted by cairobug: My spelling and grammer on a post that took 30 seconds, in a forum on the internet, is the measure of my intelligence, not my credentials or academic/career performance.
*Sigh*
What were those credentials for then? If there's one thing I've learnt from ES, it is the utter failure of the education systems in the UK and several places in the US.
Honest to God, ES has made me change my mind about moving to the UK. I WANT MY CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO SPELL. GIVE ME MY CHLDREN'S SPELLING RIGHT NOW.
Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
Everyone makes spelling and grammatical mistakes sometimes. Most of the time you can really see a lack of education (aside from mere mistakes). I think, at least in the states, that the writing and/or spelling skills of the person depends largely on the level of their education and their parents.
Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit:
Some people believe themselves to be superior to others and make ignorant comments that they believe makes them appear to have strength, but ultimately only reflects their sheer stupidity.
Strength is helping others become strong, weakness & lack of character leads people to attack others with no basis.
Sob7an Allah. Really? The thread of you and some others bullying a young lady with a long list of reasons why she's stupid (for absolutely no reason) has just been deleted!
I believe that you all owe her an apology.
Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
It was deleted for reasons other than our quips, but the quips were not to make fun of her specifically, I hope she knew that. If she comes out and says she was offended I'll apologize but I hope she saw we were just being silly with each other and not necessarily making fun of her. I don't want to hurt the feelings of anyone.
OK back on topic, I have learned from ES that the only way to participate in the Ancient Egypt and Egyptology section is to have a masters degree in Egyptology, otherwise don't bother making yourself look foolish. I can't tell you guys how many times I've given my two cents in that room only to come away feeling like I never made it past the 5th grade. Posted by MICKY A (Member # 11209) on :
It was deleted for reasons other than our quips, but the quips were not to make fun of her specifically, I hope she knew that. If she comes out and says she was offended I'll apologize but I hope she saw we were just being silly with each other and not necessarily making fun of her. I don't want to hurt the feelings of anyone.
exactly how i feel smucks we didn't make fun of her at all it wasn't about her. we were just having fun,there has to be some kind of humor on es instead of all the backstabbing and fighting. i will also say i am sorry if i offended her.but she hasn't said it did so ill wait for her to reply Posted by newcomer (Member # 1056) on :
quote:Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers: It was deleted for reasons other than our quips, but the quips were not to make fun of her specifically, I hope she knew that. If she comes out and says she was offended I'll apologize but I hope she saw we were just being silly with each other and not necessarily making fun of her. I don't want to hurt the feelings of anyone.
An Indonesian would be unlikely to come out and say anything as direct as that.
Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
Well then that's her problem, not mine. See, this goes back to something I put in what I have learned from ES:
*I've learned that no matter what your intention is, somebody is going to take what you say personally and become defensive. I've learned to not try to explain, it doesn't matter and they won't believe you didn't really mean it 'that way'. Posted by newcomer (Member # 1056) on :
It might be nice to send her a PM about it if you would really like her not to feel offended. Sorting out something like that might be better done in private, especially with the cultural differences, because confrontation is not something that is seen as a positive characteristic in SE Asia.
Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
To be honest newcomer, it was never about HER and I have no idea who SHE is, that's how much it was never about her, I don't even remember the name or topic of the thread. OK, TO THE (APPARENTLY) INDONESIAN GIRL WHO MAY HAVE BEEN OFFENDED BY OUR QUIPS THAT NEVER CONTAINED HER NAME AND NEVER QUOTED ANYTHING SHE SAID: SORRY IF YOU TOOK OFFENSE.
Posted by Mimmi (Member # 3606) on :
I have learened that many Muslims are really hypocrties.
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
quote:Originally posted by MICKY A: It was deleted for reasons other than our quips, but the quips were not to make fun of her specifically, I hope she knew that. If she comes out and says she was offended I'll apologize but I hope she saw we were just being silly with each other and not necessarily making fun of her. I don't want to hurt the feelings of anyone.
exactly how i feel smucks we didn't make fun of her at all it wasn't about her. we were just having fun,there has to be some kind of humor on es instead of all the backstabbing and fighting. i will also say i am sorry if i offended her.but she hasn't said it did so ill wait for her to reply
I see that totally differently PLUS you didn't mention yesterday that it's not all about her.
Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if you and some others just bullied her away from this forum.
Posted by MICKY A (Member # 11209) on :
Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if you and some others just bullied her away from this forum.
EXCUSE ME I DIDNT BULLY ANYONE.I AM NOT THAT KIND OF PERSON AND YOU KNOW THAT. what we cant even have fun here we the supposedly BULLIES will apologize to her in private.THE END
Posted by soozi (Member # 11108) on :
But thats the problem - anything written down can be misinterpretted (sp?), by people who speak the same language, let alone by people who don't.
I didn't see the thread in question, and I'm sure that no offense was meant by either you Micky or Smuckers, but that doesn't mean offense wasn't taken.
Posted by VanillaBullshit (Member # 10873) on :
quote:Originally posted by MICKY A: It was deleted for reasons other than our quips, but the quips were not to make fun of her specifically, I hope she knew that. If she comes out and says she was offended I'll apologize but I hope she saw we were just being silly with each other and not necessarily making fun of her. I don't want to hurt the feelings of anyone.
exactly how i feel smucks we didn't make fun of her at all it wasn't about her. we were just having fun,there has to be some kind of humor on es instead of all the backstabbing and fighting. i will also say i am sorry if i offended her.but she hasn't said it did so ill wait for her to reply
Let's get back on track here, if you & Smucky recall, she is in a relationship was a man that beats kids and has zero respect for women....Dalia's comments to her were 100% accurate. That's what prompted the string of snarky comments that ensued, and they were NOT meant to single her out.
Posted by Mimmi (Member # 3606) on :
quote:Originally posted by soozi: But thats the problem - anything written down can be misinterpretted (sp?), by people who speak the same language, let alone by people who don't.
I didn't see the thread in question, and I'm sure that no offense was meant by either you Micky or Smuckers, but that doesn't mean offense wasn't taken.
DID THE THREAD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH EGYPT?? THERE ARE SO MANY UNESSARY THREADS ON THIS BOARD WITH NO CONNECTION TO EGYPT. THIS BOARD SHOULD BE ABOUT EGYPT.
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit: Let's get back on track here, if you & Smucky recall, she is in a relationship was a man that beats kids and has zero respect for women....Dalia's comments to her were 100% accurate. That's what prompted the string of snarky comments that ensued, and they were NOT meant to single her out.
Well I get your point and it's a good fact that you and others seem to care about possible problems in her relationship. But if you wanna talk some sense into her - it needs to be approached totally differently.
Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
There is no rule that says every thread must be egypt-related...sorry. If you don't like it, don't read it and move on to the thread Egypt-related you DO like....
Posted by of_gold (Member # 13418) on :
quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit: Ignorance & blind hatred will always be in abundance at es.
Some people believe themselves to be superior to others and make ignorant comments that they believe makes them appear to have strength, but ultimately only reflects their sheer stupidity.
Strength is helping others become strong, weakness & lack of character leads people to attack others with no basis.
So true....I guess everyone falls short of this ideal...I know I do.
Posted by SayWhatYouSee (Member # 11552) on :
Oh get a grip, Tigersilly. Micky is now a bully? I keep hearing of the mysterious people who have been driven away from ES but the reality is that they are all still here - masked by new identities and taking cowardly pot shots at more honest members.
People are more likely to be put off this forum by your relentless spamming and cut and paste drivel. Seventy percent of what you post (last time I looked) doesn't even attract a single reply. That's zippo, zero, nowt. When you do manage a few original sentences it comes out as sickly, saccharine sanctimonious spew. Newbies here soon see through you. I did.
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by MICKY A: It was deleted for reasons other than our quips, but the quips were not to make fun of her specifically, I hope she knew that. If she comes out and says she was offended I'll apologize but I hope she saw we were just being silly with each other and not necessarily making fun of her. I don't want to hurt the feelings of anyone.
exactly how i feel smucks we didn't make fun of her at all it wasn't about her. we were just having fun,there has to be some kind of humor on es instead of all the backstabbing and fighting. i will also say i am sorry if i offended her.but she hasn't said it did so ill wait for her to reply --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I see that totally differently PLUS you didn't mention yesterday that it's not all about her.
Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if you and some others just bullied her away from this forum.
Posted by VanillaBullshit (Member # 10873) on :
My initial comment is what spawned the rest, if she took offense I'll apologize to her, no problem.
quote:I didn't see the thread in question, and I'm sure that no offense was meant by either you Micky or Smuckers, but that doesn't mean offense wasn't taken.
I agree, she could have taken it that way.
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mimmi: DID THE THREAD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH EGYPT?? THERE ARE SO MANY UNESSARY THREADS ON THIS BOARD WITH NO CONNECTION TO EGYPT. THIS BOARD SHOULD BE ABOUT EGYPT.
Hei Mimmi, look I just think that not everything on this forum can be about Egypt. To solve the problem - at least as you see it - would be an extra section like general talk. But we don't have this option here and sometimes it's just nice and also very informative to post and discuss other topics.
Have a nice day! Posted by of_gold (Member # 13418) on :
quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit: Ignorance & blind hatred will always be in abundance at es.
Some people believe themselves to be superior to others and make ignorant comments that they believe makes them appear to have strength, but ultimately only reflects their sheer stupidity.
Strength is helping others become strong, weakness & lack of character leads people to attack others with no basis.
So true....I guess everyone falls short of this ideal...I know I do.
Posted by soozi (Member # 11108) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mimmi:
quote:Originally posted by soozi: But thats the problem - anything written down can be misinterpretted (sp?), by people who speak the same language, let alone by people who don't.
I didn't see the thread in question, and I'm sure that no offense was meant by either you Micky or Smuckers, but that doesn't mean offense wasn't taken.
DID THE THREAD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH EGYPT?? THERE ARE SO MANY UNESSARY THREADS ON THIS BOARD WITH NO CONNECTION TO EGYPT. THIS BOARD SHOULD BE ABOUT EGYPT.
I have no idea - as I said, I didn't see the thread!
Posted by MICKY A (Member # 11209) on :
so to sum this up smucks, vb , and i are now bullies NOT!!!!!!!! and i will speak for us . we are sorry if we hurt your feelings , we didn't do it towards you at all. i hope you will accept this as a formal apology,we are sorry. and this is meant from the heart. Posted by VanillaBullshit (Member # 10873) on :
quote:Originally posted by MICKY A: so to sum this up smucks, vb , and i are now bullies NOT!!!!!!!! and i will speak for us . we are sorry if we hurt your feelings , we didn't do it towards you at all. i hope you will accept this as a formal apology,we are sorry. and this is meant from the heart.
Agreed.
Angel Heart, no offense was intended by anyone.
Can we move on to 'yo mama' jokes now?
Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit:
quote:Originally posted by MICKY A: so to sum this up smucks, vb , and i are now bullies NOT!!!!!!!! and i will speak for us . we are sorry if we hurt your feelings , we didn't do it towards you at all. i hope you will accept this as a formal apology,we are sorry. and this is meant from the heart.
Agreed.
Angel Heart, no offense was intended by anyone.
Can we move on to 'yo mama' jokes now?
I'm glad someone remembered who it was...ahhh now by knowing the name everything is coming back to me (the topic). Can't do yo mama jokes vb, the thread might become too entertaining and be deleted. Posted by MICKY A (Member # 11209) on :
go to the quips section
Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
That was nice of you guys to apologize.
Angel Heart, please come back to our forum that's full of love.
Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
quote:Originally posted by lovingmylife: What I have learned on this board?
I learned a lot about myself.
Interesting.
Care to collaborate .. Err I mean elaborate?
Posted by Sashyra88 (Member # 11693) on :
<6. Egypt is to the UK, what the carribean is to the US.>
Cairo bug,what do you mean by this?I`m Caribbean and would like to know since i don`t see any similarity. Posted by VanillaBullshit (Member # 10873) on :
Maybe she meant egypt is a nice change from the uk where they enjoy a full 20 minutes of sunshine every year.
Posted by Wanderer (Member # 13923) on :
Cairobug -
these two made me laugh, gotta agree with you there, you big troll!
"5. I am a troll. ES has helped me realize what I am, thank you wise members (a joke, ha ha, not funny).
8. My spelling and grammer on a post that took 30 seconds, in a forum on the internet, is the measure of my intelligence, not my credentials or academic/career performance. "
Posted by of_gold (Member # 13418) on :
I would suspect that those individuals who post on a forum like this are people who want to build friendships with others around the world.
While mindful that someone raised in one culture may take offense at a totally opposite thing than someone raised in a different part of the world. For example one might take offense at looking into another's eyes while speaking to them. Another would take offense if you don't look into their eyes.
How do we keep from offending each other on a forum where so many nationalities and cultures are represented?
If we can't communicate effectively here, what hope is there for the world?
Posted by cairobug (Member # 10571) on :
quote:Originally posted by MK the Most Interlectual: [QUOTE]
What were those credentials for then? If there's one thing I've learnt from ES, it is the utter failure of the education systems in the UK and several places in the US.
Honest to God, ES has made me change my mind about moving to the UK. I WANT MY CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO SPELL. GIVE ME MY CHLDREN'S SPELLING RIGHT NOW.
This will inevitably be taken in the wrong way, but this my way of seeing it. I have plenty of outlets to read and proofread what I write and have it peer reviewed--that's what your career or academia is for. This is just a forum on the internet, which I take to mean leisurely reading/participation--now while my spelling is pretty much okay on the most part considering it does not take too much effort on my part (as it doesn't for most people with 'credentials' in whatever field they're in). It's just not important enough, or it won't make me feel like I'm any less/more because of my writing style here (which if I were to be really honest, is just not anything you'd ever really write if you had to submitt it anywhere). I was aware that in Egypt it is used as a marker of distinction in pointless things, but I just don't see the point on an informal forum. I think it's great that you can master a language that's not yours, even better than some people in which its their native language. But considering everyone pretty much writes in an informal way, I don't see the point. I'm unfamiliar with the education system in the UK, but I don't think that should deter you from moving there. It really depends on the person and not the education system, if you're a hard worker and bright you'll do well anywhere. Guessing that you were educated in Egypt, I don't think that stopped you from learning English as a second language, and try to be proficient in it--it's what you make of it. Speaking from my experiences in the US, it really depends on how much work and effort you put in. What would be limiting your children's education in the UK? A few high level calc/physics classes not being available in high school? Generally even the worst high schools in the US will carry at the very least calc. Are you worried about their level of understanding or mastering their classes? That's the point of scoring in the top percentile in standardized exams.
Posted by cairobug (Member # 10571) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sashyra88: <6. Egypt is to the UK, what the carribean is to the US.>
Cairo bug,what do you mean by this?I`m Caribbean and would like to know since i don`t see any similarity.
Well, I'm not including puerto rico in what I meant by the 'caribbean' though I know it's part of it. PR has a completely different meaning, in NY--considered more so distinct. And I'm not referring to DR either.
You always hear of someone going to the caribbean and meeting this young hot guy (see how stella got her groove back), that she wants to run away with. Apparently Kingston, has some men like the ones on this forum :)I was just surprised by the posts from women who claim they're from the UK (I'm not sure if this is real or not though) and how they met this young 'hot' guy while on vacation.
My comment wasn't meant to be taken seriously, I just mentioned that its one of those 'lessons' from the world of ES.
Posted by cairobug (Member # 10571) on :
quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit: Maybe she meant egypt is a nice change from the uk where they enjoy a full 20 minutes of sunshine every year.
oh don't even remind me, i love the sunshine in egypt. it means i don't have to wear socks for 10 of 12 months! though my toes are showing some signs of premature aging, because of it.
Posted by VanillaBullshit (Member # 10873) on :
quote:Originally posted by cairobug: oh don't even remind me, i love the sunshine in egypt. it means i don't have to wear socks for 10 of 12 months! though my toes are showing some signs of premature aging, because of it.
Give me hail, snow & rain anyday, all at the same time.
I don't do well in hot climates.
Posted by cairobug (Member # 10571) on :
well i'm with you on june, july, august and september. they're pretty bad in egypt. but while snow is fun--rain is not. when those days come here, i will tell the winds to go see VB Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
I personally don't look out for spelling mistakes; hence I am not even an English native speaker myself. I do look more at the content of what a member writes. And I don't care where people are coming from and what kind of educational background they have.
But I do know that I don't like people who think they know it all, who constantly insult and belittle others. It doesn't take a high education to treat other people respectfully.
Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
I honestly miss rain, a good heavy soaking that lasts for days...
(Tiger we don't agree often but in this instance I agree with you).
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Thank you, Smuckers.
Posted by cairobug (Member # 10571) on :
TL: your point about looking at the content moreso.
I agree with you on that, and I think it limits people's feedback when they feel judged. I would love, to even know that my bawab was on this forum. Or I remember reading the nanny diaries a couple of years back and thinking-- ohhh so this is what my egyptian housekeeper thinks of eating sushi (there's this part in the book where she thinks its gross to feed the baby some french thing).
Posted by of_gold (Member # 13418) on :
You would of loved it here this morning Smuckers. There was such a down pour that the streets where blocked off and my first grader was 15 min late for school. (No one was counted tardy though)
(Tigerlily, nice post, I agree with you too)
Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
quote:Originally posted by cairobug: This will inevitably be taken in the wrong way, but this my way of seeing it. I have plenty of outlets to read and proofread what I write and have it peer reviewed--that's what your career or academia is for. This is just a forum on the internet, which I take to mean leisurely reading/participation--now while my spelling is pretty much okay on the most part considering it does not take too much effort on my part (as it doesn't for most people with 'credentials' in whatever field they're in). It's just not important enough, or it won't make me feel like I'm any less/more because of my writing style here (which if I were to be really honest, is just not anything you'd ever really write if you had to submitt it anywhere). I was aware that in Egypt it is used as a marker of distinction in pointless things, but I just don't see the point on an informal forum. I think it's great that you can master a language that's not yours, even better than some people in which its their native language. But considering everyone pretty much writes in an informal way, I don't see the point. I'm unfamiliar with the education system in the UK, but I don't think that should deter you from moving there. It really depends on the person and not the education system, if you're a hard worker and bright you'll do well anywhere. Guessing that you were educated in Egypt, I don't think that stopped you from learning English as a second language, and try to be proficient in it--it's what you make of it. Speaking from my experiences in the US, it really depends on how much work and effort you put in. What would be limiting your children's education in the UK? A few high level calc/physics classes not being available in high school? Generally even the worst high schools in the US will carry at the very least calc. Are you worried about their level of understanding or mastering their classes? That's the point of scoring in the top percentile in standardized exams.
I understand your point, but what do you want me to say to someone who says to me: "Your so stupid!" or "Use your mind, moran!"?
And those self-righteous ones who can insult and use all the filth dictionary in one post, and when I reply back in my own way, they go like: I don't like people who insult and belittle others.
Tit for tat. Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Nanny diaries? Wasn't a movie just shot right now staring Scarlette Johannson? I believe it's based on the same book, well I assume more.
I believe ES could be so much better when all members would be more helpful to each other than trying to find weaknesses of others and jumping on it over and over again. And it's distressing and annoying to have to watch that.
Posted by VanillaBullshit (Member # 10873) on :
How dare you. Everyone knows that only "Native English Speakers" are allowed to speak English.
Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
quote:Originally posted by of_gold: You would of loved it here this morning Smuckers. There was such a down pour that the streets where blocked off and my first grader was 15 min late for school. (No one was counted tardy though)
It has been snowing in Germany today.
Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
quote:Originally posted by of_gold: You would of loved it here this morning Smuckers. There was such a down pour that the streets where blocked off and my first grader was 15 min late for school. (No one was counted tardy though)
(Tigerlily, nice post, I agree with you too)
I miss rain so much that I have a really good friend (an ES member) who gave me a CD of the rain falling so I could listen to it whenver I wanted...isn't that sweet!? Now sometimes we throw in the CD and turn it up really loudly and fall asleep to the sound of rain and light thunder, it's GREAT. Posted by of_gold (Member # 13418) on :
Does it ever rain there?
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
Smuckers, especially my daughter is very sad right now because we had such a lousy summer and the weather change just came so suddenly and all the ladybugs will die now.... Last year we had many of them in my baby's bedroom (they came in to have it more warm) and my older kids tried to rescue them so they won't have to die. Well explain to a little child that's the way nature is.....
Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
quote:Originally posted by of_gold: Does it ever rain there?
Oh sure it rains in the winter a little bit but nothing to speak of, and when it does rain it's pretty light...it just isn't the same. I'm from Texas and while you wouldn't think we received much rain there, we really did get our fair share, sometimes it would rain for days and days straight, and really heavy down pours (is that one word or two?). downpours, down-pours, down pours.... hmmmm
BTW, I adore ladybugs...it's part of my nickname. (don't ask...)
Posted by of_gold (Member # 13418) on :
Looks like it should be one word.
I am from Texas too and it has been a very wet summer. I guess you have to be without it to appreciate it. Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
Which part? I'm a Dallasite. (gosh that sounds like termite or something...)
Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
quote:Originally posted by of_gold: I guess you have to be without it to appreciate it.
I guess that's with most of the things in life.
The only thing is sometimes you don't get a second chance.
Posted by Wanderer (Member # 13923) on :
MK - I really dont think that ES members are a representative sample on which to base your views and decisions on the English education system..
equally I dont think that you can take 'spelling' as a indicator of someones intelligence or cognitive abilities.
I mean, It would be like me saying - 'doctors have terrible writing so they must all be so lazy or just full of their own self importance' which of course i would never do, because that would be generalising.
Posted by of_gold (Member # 13418) on :
quote:Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers: Which part? I'm a Dallasite. (gosh that sounds like termite or something...)
Big D same as you.
What took you to Egypt and how long have you been there?
Posted by With a name like Smuckers (Member # 10289) on :
Ok, I'll PM you even though you only have 129 posts. Posted by cairobug (Member # 10571) on :
quote:Originally posted by MK the Most Interlectual:
I understand your point, but what do you want me to say to someone who says to me: "Your so stupid!" or "Use your mind, moran!"?
And those self-righteous ones who can insult and use all the filth dictionary in one post, and when I reply back in my own way, they go like: I don't like people who insult and belittle others.
Tit for tat. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Your point is understand as well, thanks for clarifying. I see how abusive this board is at times, and you definitely have a right to defend yourself from those attacks.
Posted by of_gold (Member # 13418) on :
I'm working on those numbers.
This posting stuff is addictive. It keeps me from getting my work done. Posted by of_gold (Member # 13418) on :
quote:Originally posted by cairobug:
quote:Originally posted by MK the Most Interlectual:
I understand your point, but what do you want me to say to someone who says to me: "Your so stupid!" or "Use your mind, moran!"?
And those self-righteous ones who can insult and use all the filth dictionary in one post, and when I reply back in my own way, they go like: I don't like people who insult and belittle others.
Tit for tat.
Your point is understand as well, thanks for clarifying. I see how abusive this board is at times, and you definitely have a right to defend yourself from those attacks. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Mahatma Gandhi would say "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"
Easier said than done. He was an incredible human being.
Posted by Rumicrazieluv (Member # 12053) on :
I have learned from ES that I am an elderly woman, so I have ordered my granny pants and hearing aids. I also have acquired many 2 dollar off coupons for adult briefs, just preparing myself for the next step .I have not learned still how to make a damn paragraph on here or line up my posts, I think ES is allergic to my tabs or maybe I am just a complete moran "Catfight" is understood by women of all cultures and religions. I also learned that in order to be an accepted trusted member of the board I have only 500 more posts to go and finally I have learned I am not as crazy as I once thought I was, I have to give my warmest regards to all the trolls and drama llamas for making me see what true insanity is On the other hand, all kidding aside, I have learned alot about other cultures, and have enjoyed the exchange of ideas with some pretty wonderful men and women, its been a pleasure learning how other women view the world, how we share many common thoughts,visions , and opinions . These men and women are the reason I stay and continue to post on this crazy site, thanks alot for broadening my world Posted by cairobug (Member # 10571) on :
quote:Originally posted by of_gold:
Mahatma Gandhi would say "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"
Easier said than done. He was an incredible human being. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Definitely agreed! I was only referring to defending yourself, if someone calls you a moron and they misspelled it. By all means, correct their spelling
On the gandhi note, this may have to do with my lack of experience with forums...but only you know how sane you are--how do you know who is on the other end? Why say something that's not very nice to someone who may be having a really bad day? I'm still not sure if they have internet access in psychiatric wards.
Gold: I have lots of work to do too; the reason i'm posting so much...
Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
quote:Originally posted by Wanderer: MK - I really dont think that ES members are a representative sample on which to base your views and decisions on the English education system..
I strongly disagree. Please don't tell me that it is OK to not know the difference between your and you're, there and their and they're, and to and too. Yes it happens to everyone every once in a while, but not ALL the time.
quote: equally I dont think that you can take 'spelling' as a indicator of someones intelligence or cognitive abilities.
I'm sorry but I do. In humans, intelligence has seven categories, of which language acquisition and expression is the first one.
We have Linguistic, Logical-mathematical, Musical, Spatial, Bodily-kinesthetic, Interpersonal and Intrapersonal intelligence.
Yes I agree that some excel in certain fields at the expense of other fields, but my point is that it is accepted to *partially* assess someone's intelligence from his linguistic skills.
quote: I mean, It would be like me saying - 'doctors have terrible writing so they must all be so lazy or just full of their own self importance' which of course i would never do, because that would be generalising.
No it's not the same. Although I wouldn't mind you saying that. Compared to Toozi the freak anything said about doctors in here is mild shampoo. Most doctors have terrible handwriting and I find that extremely annoying, since this involves lives of people therefore they should leave ZERO chance for a text to be misread. It happened here before that I got in a fight with someone who offered faulty medical advice while she is not licenced to do that (saying a word was Intragluteal when it was supposed to be Infragluteal). She was shouting as usual that I was full of myself, and I thought this could involve causing permanent damage hence my objection.
It's all about seeing the humor in my posts, which also needs a fraction of intelligence. Posted by Tigerlily (Member # 3567) on :
quote:Originally posted by cairobug: I'm still not sure if they have internet access in psychiatric wards.
Hahahaaa, you hit the nail right on its head. This must be the case!!!!
Posted by cairobug (Member # 10571) on :
MK: humor is always relative...and as all physicians know, it's not funny to talk medical jargon outside of the workplace--there's plenty of time to do that with your colleagues at work. This is just an informal forum.
Also, I don't think anyone takes real medical advice from a forum--and there isn't a single country out there that will just let you do as you please based on the recommendation of someone off the internet.
And if spelling and grammer are the markers of intelligence, you get that validation from other things in life. I think this forum is open to all, there are professional forums where you can can discuss things--and it's understood what everyone's credentials are. This isn't one of them, so why obsess over it. But if it's just a point to bring up when you're being attacked by someone--that's something different.
You are entitled to view anyone who's post are not perfect, as lesser intelligent form. For all the offended people out there, there are intellectual snobs out there (me being one of them, where it counts) who don't measure your intelligence by your posts on an internet forum.
Posted by bettyN (Member # 14096) on :
waa waaa waaa so you bullies are called on for your attitudes and how rude you are to people here. You call it having fun? How old are we? Really in a million years when I wrote about my experience with the water in Egypt to inform any others traveling to Egypt just to be aware, I never expected the response that I received from a few of you. I really suffered and wanted to help any others that might experience what I did. Instead of being welcomed to this site look how you people treated me. Embarassing for you. Weren't you embarassed by your ignorant responses? Someone new might be able to add valuable information or help another out. I own my own business and perhaps help others out. You chop our heads off before even knowing us. Small mentality you have. I am sorry for you guys. Really!!
Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
quote:Originally posted by cairobug: MK: humor is always relative...and as all physicians know, it's not funny to talk medical jargon outside of the workplace--there's plenty of time to do that with your colleagues at work. This is just an informal forum.
I can't recall using medical jargon where people wouldn't understand it or have no way to look words up. I just express myself in the way that I can express myself. I can use slang too and do use it when necessary. And I don't claim to be funny to everyone. Humor is like beauty, they're both relative things.
quote: Also, I don't think anyone takes real medical advice from a forum--
You'd be surprised.
quote: and there isn't a single country out there that will just let you do as you please based on the recommendation of someone off the internet.
quote: And if spelling and grammer are the markers of intelligence, you get that validation from other things in life. I think this forum is open to all, there are professional forums where you can can discuss things--and it's understood what everyone's credentials are. This isn't one of them, so why obsess over it. But if it's just a point to bring up when you're being attacked by someone--that's something different.
See my previous posts!
quote: You are entitled to view anyone who's post are not perfect, as lesser intelligent form. For all the offended people out there, there are intellectual snobs out there (me being one of them, where it counts) who don't measure your intelligence by your posts on an internet forum.
I do not look down upon people who are not geniuses. I even consider myself dumb compared to my hosbond. It's all a relative thing.
And for all offended people out there, you must be kidding me!
Posted by Rumicrazieluv (Member # 12053) on :
Really betty, how old are we? Still having your meltdown? Good girl, keep going. Your use of the foulest language doesnt show your intelligence,your nasty pm's reveal that you have no intelligence, you thought when i called you a garden gnome, I was talking about the size of your home,lol. New users are welcome on this forum, we were all new users once, and we posted accordingly. Having a sense of humour is a pre- requisite for posting on forums when you cannot look into someones eyes and see they are playing with you. Misunderstandings happen, if you were a business women, then you would certainly know how to conduct yourself in public, and deal with different personalities with class and style. The way you reacted, on the forum and in pm shows you are an uneducated liar. You were supposed to be married to an egyptian man for 17 yrs, yet you couldnt reconize 3 simple arabic words That I wrote to you??Not recognize the native language of a man you were married too for 17 yrs Not being able to speak it is one thing, but totally not recognize it? You specifically asked me" What kind of language is that , b****h, some kind of troll language??" As I said, I swear you trolls are on some kind of 90 day self destruct cycle, you meltdown,self-destruct and then rise from the ashes stupider than the first time around . I would ask if your embarrassed, but we all know the answer to that question. I will take Advice of Alchemist from post #1 and be done with it..
Posted by cairobug (Member # 10571) on :
You express yourself just fine the way you do in English, though at times I can see the doctor jokes (picture the black glasses--j/k). I don't think that many people care, how they come off (in terms of spelling,etc) on an informal forum--and think that this just isn't the place for that. But you are entitled to your opinion on it.
Everyone is comparatively dumb to someone out there.
Do you really think that there aren't people out there who'll think twice about posting because they may worry that they'll come off not quite as geniuses? I just think this isn't the place for all the critiques on writing form, unless someone is calling you 'stupid.' And its an international forum, that's just what surprises me even more...though I realize that you have managed to surpass those odds.
Posted by bettyN (Member # 14096) on :
you know nothing about my life and I don't need to give you any information about my marriage. Yes Ms. know it all, I was married to a middle easten man for 17 years and have 2 beautiful daughters. Hey Ms noisy, not all middle easterns speak arabic just so you know. Never said he was egyptian. How did you pass nursing school when you cannot read?
Posted by Rumicrazieluv (Member # 12053) on :
quote:Originally posted by MK the Most Interlectual: Cairobug, here's an example for you for when and why I do what I do:
quote:Originally posted by bettyN: P.S. go back to your shoe box in the getto. And by the way - IF I WANTED TO HEAR FROM A ASSHOLE I WOULD FART!!!
It's AN asshole. Thank you.
ROFL . Thank you, I will go back to my shoe box in the ghetto!
Posted by cairobug (Member # 10571) on :
quote:Originally posted by MK the Most Interlectual: Cairobug, here's an example for you for when and why I do what I do:
quote:Originally posted by bettyN: P.S. go back to your shoe box in the getto. And by the way - IF I WANTED TO HEAR FROM A ASSHOLE I WOULD FART!!!
It's AN asshole. Thank you.
LOL--I can't believe my eyes. Your spell/grammar check is right on point there though MK, keep that up Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
Posted by soozi (Member # 11108) on :
MK - please tell me when you're refering to Toozi you mean Tootsie (SP?) and not me? Whenever you write Toozi I always shudder that you've replaced my S with the T!!!
I'm guessing you don't mean me, as I have no medical knowledge whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by My Heart (Member # 14099) on :
I learnt that ...
Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
quote:Originally posted by soozi: MK - please tell me when you're refering to Toozi you mean Tootsie (SP?) and not me? Whenever you write Toozi I always shudder that you've replaced my S with the T!!!
I'm guessing you don't mean me, as I have no medical knowledge whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh God sorry Soozi I absolutely do not mean you! I will watch out in the future. Sorry again.
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