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Some claim that Kemet means black people. I doubt that ancient Egyptians thought of themselves as the Nubians, which were not considered as one as the Egyptian.
The Egyptians were loyal to his land and country, his national pride was connected to the land of Egypt, it was holy for them. Nubians were not part of that land, and therefore not one. Ancient Egyptians called their country Kemet in connection to the fertile soil of Egypt's Nile stretch, that gave Egypt its life and proserity. The name Kemet had nothing to do with race, and I believe race was not a priority in the mind of the ancients as it is in our mind today.
Ancient Egyptians thought only of Egypt, they did not relate to others as one in race or one continent. There was not even a sense of continent yet.
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quote:Originally posted by AMR1: Some claim that Kemet means black people. I doubt that ancient Egyptians thought of themselves as the Nubians, which were not considered as one as the Egyptian.
The Egyptians were loyal to his land and country, his national pride was connected to the land of Egypt, it was holy for them. Nubians were not part of that land, and therefore not one. Ancient Egyptians called their country Kemet in connection to the fertile soil of Egypt's Nile stretch, that gave Egypt its life and proserity. The name Kemet had nothing to do with race, and I believe race was not a priority in the mind of the ancients as it is in our mind today.
Ancient Egyptians thought only of Egypt, they did not relate to others as one in race or one continent. There was not even a sense of continent yet.
Aside from the fact that portions of "Nubia" (more likely Kerma) did in fact become part of Ancient Egypt after they were conquered.
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Well I would have to agree that kemet has nothing to do with race because as you say the ancients did not think the same way as we did. Also, if everyone was "black" skinned in the nile area there would be no reason for Egyptians to call themselves that. If some would argue that Egyptians called themselves black because of the red people in mesopotamia and the levant, there has been no group of Africans to call themselves a name in relation to another group or non Africans, so that wouldn't make much sense. Now Kemet we do know has nothing to do with soil or land as whitey wants it to be because then there wouldn't be the "blue and white" connotation to the Nile and there is nothing blue or white about the Nile so any one with common sense cannot buy the whole "black soil" thing in 2006. Personally I feel that kem is a compound word of "ka and em" and Egyptians calling themselves "kemet"(people of the spirit) makes much more "reasonable" sense than Egyptians calling themselves "black people". The spirit comes from elements that come from RA/the sun and the sun on earth would be "fire/nar"..how does one burn fire in ancient times? With wood; so the heiro for "km" is a burnt stick of wood and we see the phonecians spelling this chem/khem/kham/ham and their definition being "burnt/hot/to be burned". So if it has anything to do with race it would be a color issue of a burnt or blackened color based on the sun and elements and not based on racial classification. Also "al khemy"(chemistry) must use fire to extract the elements and I am sure the arab speakers have learned this from the Egyptians so again I personally see a corroboration of my thesis here with an aspect of fire/burning etc.
Just my thoughts, thanks
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quote:Originally posted by tutemkasret: Now Kemet we do know has nothing to do with soil or land as whitey wants it to be because then there wouldn't be the "blue and white" connotation to the Nile and there is nothing blue or white about the Nile so any one with common sense cannot buy the whole "black soil" thing in 2006.
Before Europeans, Egyptians did not know that the Nile come to them in fact stem not only from one source but two. So this naming of white and blue Nile Rives is very recent.
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****Before Europeans, Egyptians did not know that the Nile come to them in fact stem not only from one source but two. So this naming of white and blue Nile Rives is very recent.****
What do you mean by this? They did not know the Nile came to them?
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quote:Originally posted by tutemkasret: Also, if everyone was "black" skinned in the nile area there would be no reason for Egyptians to call themselves that.
Everyone wasn't. The Aamu asiatics were not, which is why they were referred to as reds... not Blacks.
quote: If some would argue that Egyptians called themselves black because of the red people in mesopotamia and the levant, there has been no group of Africans to call themselves a name in relation to another group or non Africans, so that wouldn't make much sense.
Actually the above paragraph makes no sense at all.
Why would there need be another group of 'africans' to call non-black?
All that is required is for the Km.t to be aware of another group of people who were non-black, regardless of whether they were "African" or not.
Indeed - what word in mdw ntr would even denote - African? And since fair skinned Libyans were 'african' but referred to as 'red' and not black, even on this simplistic level, your question is answered.
The Ancient Egyptians made perfect sense.
It's those who are apparently unable to grasp their clear and coherent writings who never make any sense.
quote: Now Kemet we do know has nothing to do with soil or land as whitey wants it to be because then there wouldn't be the "blue and white" connotation to the Nile
This is a complete non-sequitur.
It's amazing to witness the human mind in the process of confusing itself over something simple, via self inflicted misdirection, convolution and rationalisation.
I'll make it simple as can be.
Just read the text and tell us what it says ->
Km.t [rm.t].
Translate it.
Instead of translating it, which answers your question - you talk about the white nile and blue nile and other nonsense which has nothing to do with your question, and so leads you further and further away from the answer.
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I will make this as simple as possible for the Arabized one to understand.
The Egyptians did not think in 'racial' terms as YOU do today. Kem or black was a sacred color that the Egyptians applied to themselves as well as their country regardless of actual complexion.
'Nubians' were not one group of people but consisted of various groups, some looked like southern Sudanese while others looked like many Egyptians as well as Africans in the Horn. The Egyptians specified the various groups with names like Kush, Setjau, Wawat, Medjay, Irem, Kaau, etc. Some Nubian groups were enemies while others like the Medjay were close allies and even intermarried with Egyptians.
Ironically, the Egyptians did not call Nubian enemies like Kush 'black', but they called themselves black.
As Rasol says, this whole thread was created to RUN AWAY from FACTS that he cannot address or is too scared to. The simple FACT of the matter is that the Kememu AKA Kemetawy AKA Kemau embraced the label 'black' which is totally contradictory to modern black-phobic Arabised nuts found in the Nile Valley today (AMR included).
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Why don't you go and bring us another picture of a Nubian and call him an Egyptian, you are good only at fabricating things.
Nothing you bring here is honest, all twisted stories, fabricated document, translation with one objective in mind, pictures of the 2 darkest synaties the 18 and 25th, who were partly Nubian or fully Nubian, nothing else and portray it as an appropriate example to all of Egypt through history.
Why don't you go and bring us another picture of a Nubian and call him an Egyptian, you are good only at fabricating things.
Nothing you bring here is honest, all twisted stories, fabricated document, translation with one objective in mind, pictures of the 2 darkest synaties the 18 and 25th, who were partly Nubian or fully Nubian, nothing else and portray it as an appropriate example to all of Egypt through history.
LMAO AMR, the only one "fabricating" things is YOU!
^We have told you a hundred times that the hieroglyphs identified the figure above as EGYPTIAN and NOT 'Nubian'!!
Why don't you prove us wrong! Prove to us that we are lying or that we are mistaken about this!
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please refrain of bringing us any pictures of nubians when talking about abncient egypt. And if you want to bring us a picture of a nubian princees served by egyptians, explain that this is from the 25th dynasty, when nubians took over egypt.
many gods and phoroahs were painted black. we know egyptians were not jet blue, they were red brown.
so why they used this jet blue colour on gods and phoroahs, again it was the colour of the glorious soil of egypt that gave egypt its life. it has nothing to do with glorifying black, some gods are painted green.
It's amazing to witness the human mind in the process of confusing itself over something simple, via self inflicted misdirection, convolution and rationalisation.
I'll make it simple as can be.
Just read the text and tell us what it says ->
Km.t [rm.t].
Translate it.
Instead of translating it, which answers your question - you talk about the white nile and blue nile and other nonsense which has nothing to do with your question, and so leads you further and further away from the answer.
This is why so many remained forever confused.
Simply amazing.***
This makes no sense...this is in response to AMR its not a question...I spoke of the white and blue nile because HE made the statment about the "black soil" myth in the description of the word kmt...you need to pay attention@rasol so no it's not a non sequitor when refering to "color".
***Actually the above paragraph makes no sense at all.
Why would there need be another group of 'africans' to call non-black?
All that is required is for the Km.t to be aware of another group of people who were non-black, regardless of whether they were "African" or not.
Indeed - what word in mdw ntr would even denote - African? And since fair skinned Libyans were 'african' but referred to as 'red' and not black, even on this simplistic level, your question is answered.
The Ancient Egyptians made perfect sense.
It's those who are apparently unable to grasp their clear and coherent writings who never make any sense.***
This make absolutely no sense considering Egyptians would not name themselves "black"(racially) in RELATION to non black(racially) or black(racially)..there are no groups of AFricans that call themselves black and I wish you AFrican Americans would realize this and get out of your western mind set. There are no Africans that name themselves BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE EITHER!! how insulting of you to say they would.
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please refrain of bringing us any pictures of nubians when talking about abncient egypt. And if you want to bring us a picture of a nubian princees served by egyptians, explain that this is from the 25th dynasty, when nubians took over egypt.
LOL Pay attention! I, Djehuti was the one who posted that picture of an EGYPTIAN man!
His hieroglyph labels him as such!
No go and prove us wrong. Prove to us that the hieroglyph was a mistake and that the man is really 'Nubian'! Posts: 26238 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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many gods and phoroahs were painted black. we know egyptians were not jet blue, they were red brown.
Don't you mean "jet black"? Jet 'blue' is what Northern Sudanese call themselves today! LOL
quote:so why they used this jet blue colour on gods and phoroahs, again it was the colour of the glorious soil of egypt that gave egypt its life. it has nothing to do with glorifying black, some gods are painted green.
WRONG. Black was a sacred color period, that had NOTHING to do with the soil!!
The Oromo of Ethiopia call their deity Guuracha meaning 'black' even though many of those who still worship him live in desert areas.
Black God: The Afroasiatic Roots of the Jewish, Christian, and Muslim Religions
^Black is a color held sacred to many African peoples regardless of complexion, and the same holds true for the ancestors who brought Afrasian (Semitic) languages to Asia...
Yet this is something you are desperate to run away from. You cannot run and you cannot hide any longer my Arabized friend. Posts: 26238 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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^ No it is not, as it is not what asked obviously, and is completely wrong in any case as Kem black is a completely different word that ka -> spirit.
If you don't know the difference betweem kem and ka then you simply have no idea of how to read mdw ntr and all your comments on it are worthless.
For the 3rd and final time:
quote:Just read the text and tell us what it says ->
Km.t [rm.t].
Translate it.
Now stop stalling, and answer.
Unless you can't in which case the conversation is over.
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quote:Originally posted by tutemkasret: kemet ka em et et=nation or people em=being synonymous with "of" and ka= spirit
is this what you want me to do?
^LOL Nice try at obfuscating Tutmuskrat!
But Ka is not anywhere in the word Kemet!
Kemet is divided into Kem-- black and et-- nation.
Thus literally 'black nation'. Black is a color sacred to many African peoples and the 'Egyptians' were certainly one of those peoples!
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I told you that I reasonably look at the word "kem" as a compound word "ka and em" just like the word "tem" being "ta and em" meaning of the ground/land(atum/tem/temu/tm) km.t [rm.t] =kemet romet "the people of spirit, men above men"
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7000 years ago there was no sense of black unity or an african nation. egyptians distinctively showed themselves as brown and people around them are white libyans, white semites and black nubians. this are the people of the world, for ancient egyptians.
Nothing you will bring, I can discuss because it is fabricated. You also ignore there is Nubians in Egypt, like djehuti's picture, even today. This does not make them Egyptians. They are still ethnically Nubians.
But you are desperate to paint Egypt black, which it was not, brown in Africa is not black, I don't care what it is in America. So take care.
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***^LOL Nice try at obfuscating Tutmuskrat!
But Ka is not anywhere in the word Kemet!
Kemet is divided into Kem-- black and et-- nation.
Thus literally 'black nation'. Black is a color sacred to many African peoples and the 'Egyptians' were certainly one of those peoples!***
And I am saying that I disagree, which I have a right to do now what I have a problem with is your and Rasol are acting like the trolls you so dearly say are beligerant. Why so much angst toward someone that was actually refering to AMR1? Lets act our age here. This is a discussion board and there is no reason for name calling especially when I have not done this to ANYONE...it's very immature. There are no vowels in phonecian interpreted words of "mdu ntr" so km.t could be written(with vowels) kamat/kemet/kamit it doesn't matter because the vowels are something WE as modern people are adding...this is like saying Atum/tem/temu are not the same word WHICH they are the sam word NOW steming from "tm"..so my point still stands djehuty now I would please ask you to act more civilized and I am not trying to distract anything I made my first point in reference to "AMR1" and noone else.
quote:Originally posted by tutemkasret: I told you that I reasonably look at the word "kem" as a compound word "ka and em"
They are based on completely different roots and represented by different glyphs, which is why no linguist supports such nonsense. What you just did is equivelent to replacing the word black with blend, and then translating black people as 'blended people' - quite silly actually.
You did not translate the term Km.t[rm.t], you substituted another word for it.
quote:Originally posted by tutemkasret: I told you that I reasonably look at the word "kem" as a compound word "ka and em" just like the word "tem" being "ta and em" meaning of the ground/land(atum/tem/temu/tm) km.t [rm.t] =kemet romet "the people of spirit, men above men"
ROTFL You can't be serious!
Even the most elementary Egyptology language books will say that the word Kem is a totally seperate word that simply means the colorblack and has absolutely NOTHING to do with the spirit aspect 'ka'! An actually it is the 'ba' spirit that is depicted in kem (black)!
quote:Originally posted by AMR1: djehuti
7000 years ago there was no sense of black unity or an african nation. egyptians distinctively showed themselves as brown and people around them are white libyans, white semites and black nubians. this are the people of the world, for ancient egyptians.
LMAO Nobody said anything about "black unity" or "African nation", only that black was a sacred color to Egyptians as it is to many African peoples!! The Egyptians used 'black' to describe themselves and NOT Nubians! You still have not presented anything that refutes this FACT. All you do is bring in modern racial politics. This lame tactic reminds me alot of the poster Hore. Posts: 26238 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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"Brown in Africa is not Black". Dude are you kidding me. I am brown and I am full Africa, Nigeria to be exact. Some of My sisters and brother and cousins are light skinned like beyonnce, some are even lighter. Most people in my family are brown and the ones that do come out black, we always nickname them blacky because they are darker. this is true in Nigeria. you obviously have not travelled much.
why do you make baseless claims, you create fallacious claims and expect everyone to absorb it. you make me laugh dude. Like I told Africa, brown is just another shade in the "black Race", so stop obssessing over color and get over it.
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Ok, and my response is that km is a word of its own with a compound root as are most of our words today are "compound words". So how is my reasoning wrong for "km" to be interpreted the same as "tm" considering there is no heiro for the word "ta"(land) in the heiro for the God "tm" whilst you say that there is no heiro for the word "ka" in the compound word "km"
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What does "Kemet" mean? "Kemet" (keh-MET) is the term ancient Egyptians used as the official name of their country. (Sometimes they also called it Ta-mery, or "beloved land.") Kemet translates as "Black Land", in reference to the fertile banks and fields surrounding the Nile (black from the soil). In contrast, "deshret" is the term for the "Red Land" or the desert (a modern term derived from "deshret") that surrounds the fertile "kemet". By using the term Kemet instead of Egypt, we refer to the country by the name its own people called it (Egypt is an English form of the Greek name for this land, Aegyptos, itself derived from Coptic hi(t)-ka(u)-ptah, "the house/temple of the ka of Ptah").
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***What does "Kemet" mean? "Kemet" (keh-MET) is the term ancient Egyptians used as the official name of their country. (Sometimes they also called it Ta-mery, or "beloved land.") Kemet translates as "Black Land", in reference to the fertile banks and fields surrounding the Nile (black from the soil). In contrast, "deshret" is the term for the "Red Land" or the desert (a modern term derived from "deshret") that surrounds the fertile "kemet". By using the term Kemet instead of Egypt, we refer to the country by the name its own people called it (Egypt is an English form of the Greek name for this land, Aegyptos, itself derived from Coptic hi(t)-ka(u)-ptah, "the house/temple of the ka of Ptah").***
Well see I am disagreeing with you that Kemet means blacks land or soil and that is what I was originally doing before RAsol and Djehuty attacted me and I feel that deshret is refering to nation/people just as kemet is refering to nation/people and not soil or land or ground.
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quote:Originally posted by tutemkasret: I told you that I reasonably look at the word "kem" as a compound word "ka and em"
They are based on completely different roots and represented by different glyphs, which is why no linguist supports such nonsense. What you just did is equivelent to replacing the word black with blend, and then translating black people as 'blended people' - quite silly actually.
You did not translate the term Km.t[rm.t], you substituted another word for it.
Kememu = Black people (Ancient Egyptians) in both Ancient and modern Egyptian (Kmemou).
Kem [khet][wood] = extremely black, jet-black
Kemet = any black thing. Note: "t" is silent - pronounced Kemé
Kemet [nu][community, settlement, nation] = Black nation = Ancient Egypt.
Kemet [Romé][people] = Black people. Ancient Egyptians.
Kemit [Shoit][books] = Black books, Ancient Egyptian literature.
The school you copy and paste your posts from is all faulty, it makes a theory and meanings of words from the air and believe it.
The same web site draws ancient Nubians and Egyptians as identical. They were never identical.
It is like taking my picture and say this is the typical Sudanese today, while I am an upper Egyptian ethnically, that is what you and your friend djehuti and afro centric web sites that teach you are doing with that picture of the Nubian, which amounts to nothing but dishonesty.
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***Kemit [Shoit][books] = Black books, Ancient Egyptian literature***
Ok so now you are saying that kemit shoit has to mean that the books are literally black in color? Do you see what I mean? That doesn't make any sense.
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Damn Amr1, People call all kinds of things "Black" that are not literally BLACK.
Some people like their coffee "Black". If you look at the coffee, it is not actually "Black", but deep, dark brown.
Many MANY Africans are not absolute Black, but dark, medium, and light brown.
Damn, GET WITH IT AMR!!!!
You act like you want people to be BLACK, as in ABSOLUTEY devoid of any light. Like SAPCE or some ****. NOONE looks like that.
People are Dark Brown, medium brown, and light brown. They are "Black" as opposed to someone who is "white".
We also know that people use the term "white", to not ALL the time represent things that are ABSOLUTE "white", as in devoid of COLOR. White people are not "white", they are a pinkish color. Some have yellow tinges in their skin etc.
Do you get it NOOOOOOWWW!?!?!?!?
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****There is no compound root in km. It is represented by charcoal and is the strongest term in mdw ntr fof black.
You fabricate a compound by inserting a completely different word into km, derived from ka or ba which have are not found in km.
All of this in order to run away from the simple fact that the word for black in mdw ntr is kem.
Obtuseness makes for poor debate strategy. lol.****
And again I disagree, but I am not immature or beligerant about it. By the way..posting an afrocentric geocities site ummmm that's not very impressing *snickering* I would have expected better even from you. Oh well my point still stands
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quote:And again I disagree, but I am not immature or beligerant about it
Actually you are. When you state "I disagree", but fail to address the evidence, or produce any evidence, you are being very immature and obtuse.
quote:Originally posted by tutemkasret: ***What does "Kemet" mean? "Kemet" (keh-MET) is the term ancient Egyptians used as the official name of their country. (Sometimes they also called it Ta-mery, or "beloved land.") Kemet translates as "Black Land", in reference to the fertile banks and fields surrounding the Nile (black from the soil). In contrast, "deshret" is the term for the "Red Land" or the desert (a modern term derived from "deshret") that surrounds the fertile "kemet". By using the term Kemet instead of Egypt, we refer to the country by the name its own people called it (Egypt is an English form of the Greek name for this land, Aegyptos, itself derived from Coptic hi(t)-ka(u)-ptah, "the house/temple of the ka of Ptah").***
Well see I am disagreeing with you that Kemet means blacks land or soil and that is what I was originally doing before RAsol and Djehuty attacted me and I feel that deshret is refering to nation/people just as kemet is refering to nation/people and not soil or land or ground.
You're both bogus.
Amr1 admits that Kemet means black then inserts soil which is nowhere found in the word kemet which is simply 'Black'.
You realise that the above strategy is hopeless, but attempt the equally laughable ruse of denying the Kemet means black to begin with.
This is even more ridiculous as this is the one fact that is acknolwedged in virtually every translation of mdw ntr ever produced.
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Why don't you go and bring us another picture of a Nubian and call him an Egyptian, you are good only at fabricating things.
Nothing you bring here is honest, all twisted stories, fabricated document, translation with one objective in mind, pictures of the 2 darkest synaties the 18 and 25th, who were partly Nubian or fully Nubian, nothing else and portray it as an appropriate example to all of Egypt through history.
You're the biggest joke this forum has ever seen. At least past trolls actually seemed like they knew what they were talking about.
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quote:Originally posted by Tee85: Damn Amr1, People call all kinds of things "Black" that are not literally BLACK.
Some people like their coffee "Black". If you look at the coffee, it is not actually "Black", but deep, dark brown.
Many MANY Africans are not absolute Black, but dark, medium, and light brown.
Damn, GET WITH IT AMR!!!!
Of course anyone who tries to mistranslate km.t as black 'soil' knows this...since this translations rationale does not require soil that this literally pitch black, but rather merely dark.
This is why the attempt to restrict the meaning of black to it's most absolute form never works.
The most common definition of "Blacks" [which I adhere to] as found in the Oxford and Webster's dictionary is as follows:
person belonging to any of various population groups having dark pigmentation of the skin
This is also the meaning of Km.t [Rm.t], which is translated by the Worterbuch dictionary as "The Blacks".
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Like I said..the heiro of a burnt stick of wood/charcoal to me denotes the spirit and you can't say it means literally black skin, but a burning because if it DID mean literally black skin then Egyptians would depict themselves BLACK and not Reddish brown..so again my point still stands whether or not you wish to acknowledge it. The Gods like Asaru depicted black skinned make PERFECT sense considering he is from Ta Khent and that the pictures you show of queens/kings depicted BLACK skinned also make perfect sense because they are coming from the land/area that the Gods (like Osiris) are from.
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quote:Like I said..the heiro of a burnt stick of wood/charcoal to me denotes the spirit
It literally denotes the color black, to every linguist. Your claims to the contrary are empty noise, desparate and unsubstantiated, and dismissed accordingly. Please present a linguist who denies that the word for black in mdw ntr is Kem.
As ever, we patiently wait.
quote:and you can't say it means literally black skin
We didn't. So you are still being obtuse.
Black skin would be kem [black] and ho [skin,face], which was also a title of Osirus and Isis, of Black faced statuary, and of animals that were very dark, such as crocodiles.
quote:if it DID mean literally black skin then Egyptians would depict themselves BLACK
You mean, like this? Osirus, Kem Wer, the great black, Kem ho, black face.
quote:Originally posted by tutemkasret: ***Kemit [Shoit][books] = Black books, Ancient Egyptian literature***
quote:Ok so now you are saying that kemit shoit has to mean that the books are literally black in color? Do you see what I mean?
No, we don't, since your argument was that Kem does not mean black, and the above does not aid your argument, which you obviously know isn't true.
quote: That doesn't make any sense.
It makes perfect sense, and is eloquently explained by Wally from the referenced website:
Kem wer [miri][large body of water] = The Great Black sea (The Red sea). This sea is neither black nor red, this is in reference to which nation, Black or Red, at a particular time, controlled this body of water.
If you don't understand, you should ask questions, not make ridiculous claims such as kem [black] means ka [spirit].
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You should fear the curse of the Phoroahs, they don't want to be described as identical to the Nubians. They defintely don't want any one to change the meaning of the black painted God of theirs to mean they were as black as their Nubian enemies.
quote:Kemophobic Amr1 writes:You should fear the curse of the Phoroahs
lol. Fear and ignorance is your motif not mine, sorry. Imagine a 'muslim' prattling on about curses from pagan African Gods.
Run off now and start a new thread, you frightened little man.
quote:They defintely don't want any one to change the meaning of the black skinned God of theirs
Actually upper and lower Nile Valley Africans often shared the same Black Gods, and were both regarded as descendants of Osirus. According to Egyptologist EW Budge, Osirus himself originated in Sudan [nubia].
The only one who doesn't have Black Gods.....is you. Your Gods are Arabs. You have nothing in common with "Ancient Egyptians or Nubians." And you're not a real Arab either. To the arabs you are Abeed.
You are lost. Isn't that that real meaning of all your troll threads?
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***No, we don't, since your argument was that Kem does not mean black, and the above does not aid your argument, which you obviously know isn't true.***
Actually it does! lmao!!!!!! So answer the question, does kemet shoi mean "literally black colored books" ???
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^ What are you waiting for, other than for the answers you've been given to sink in?
quote:rasol: your argument was that Kem does not mean black
quote:tutemkasret: Actually it does! lmao!!!!!!
If you are now ADMITTING that Kem means black you have negated your whole phony argument. So why continue?
I guess that leaves you to attempt to *save face* by making a up a new phony argument.....
quote: So answer the question, does kemet shoi mean "literally black colored books"
That question was answered in the link provided:
Kemet [nu][community, settlement, nation] = Black nation = Ancient Egypt.
Kem wer [miri][large body of water] = The Great Black sea (The Red sea). This sea is neither black nor red, this is in reference to which nation, Black or Red, at a particular time, controlled this body of water.
quote:Originally posted by AMR1: The school you copy and paste your posts from is all faulty, it makes a theory and meanings of words from the air and believe it.
Really?! Then correct the faults and give us accurate definitions of Mdu Neter words!
quote:The same web site draws ancient Nubians and Egyptians as identical. They were never identical.
LOL That website takes a scene from Ramessa III's Book of Gates which shows a man labeled Rmt meaning Egyptian drawn the same way as a Nubian!!
quote:It is like taking my picture and say this is the typical Sudanese today, while I am an upper Egyptian ethnically, that is what you and your friend djehuti and afro centric web sites that teach you are doing with that picture of the Nubian, which amounts to nothing but dishonesty.
Nope. You still have not refuted either the vocabulary or the tomb paintins of the Kememu!
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I will make this as simple as possible for the Arabized one to understand.
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AMR, the only one "fabricating" things is YOU!
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