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[QUOTE]Originally posted by awlaadberry: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by The Explorer: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by awlaadberry: Yes. I need someone to explain to me what an "African" is. [/QUOTE]Then this forum is way in over your head. You need to get 2nd grade geography in the bag first, before you can speak of more complex issues. [QUOTE] Can you explain it to me?[/QUOTE]Yes; it is the name of a continent, and its people. That wasn't hard, now was it. [QUOTE] And you say "Malians are as "Arabic" as an Irish man". [/QUOTE]I did. What of it? [QUOTE] You need to go and teach that to those Malians on the clip who are telling you that they are Arabs[/QUOTE]Which Malians call themselves "Arabs", and in what *exact* words, and in what language? Is that language "Arabic"; if not, why is that the case? [QUOTE] and if only you could teach that to the writers of those manuscripts. [/QUOTE]Which *specific* Malian-native writer of the manuscript says he is "Arab", rather than well, a Malian-native? Names! On that note, I suppose if I used your logic, even if there were some grain of truth to your proclamations here, which is questionable at any rate, then I would have to teach all those people who think that they descend from Adam and Eve in the "Garden of Eden", which some place somewhere in "Southwest Asia", the facts of genealogical information to the contrary. It is not uncommon to find segments of African societies formulate legends that connect them to some religious eponymous ancestor in some holy land, which places that ancestor elsewhere other than Africa. I take those sort of matters as religion, nothing more or less, and hence, don't bother with trying to convince the bearers of such beliefs one way or the other. However, if you wish to discuss REALITY and FACTS, then that is another matter altogether. [/qb][/QUOTE]You say, "Yes; it is the name of a continent, and its people." Do you really believe that is an intelligent answer to my question? You say, "Which Malians call themselves "Arabs", and in what *exact* words, and in what language? " It's here and she says it in Arabic and it is translated for you in English: Listen to 3:19 to 3:45 of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkR0TG9VZ7g You say, "Which *specific* Malian-native writer of the manuscript says he is "Arab", rather than well, a Malian-native? Names!" AbdurRahman As-Sa'adi says in Taarikh As-Sudan that the Sanhaja (Tuareg) are from the Yemen and he says that the Songhai are from the Yemen. Mahmud Ka'ati says in Taarikh Al-Fattach that the Songhai, Wangara (Mandingo), and Wakore (Soninke) are from the Yemen. According to the manuscript number 43 of Ahmed Baba Center in Timbuktu, the Fulani trace their lineage back to the Koraysh of Mecca through Oqba ibn Yasir.. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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