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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ausarian.: [QB] Little bit of info I had come across: [b]Item[/b] > APIS record: chicago.apis.7803 [b]Title[/b] > Hadith, Late VIIIth-Early IXth century A.D. [date1 Display > 750 and date2 Display > 850] [b]Inventory Id[/b] > P. O.I. 17626 [b]Original Language[/b] > Arabic [b]Physical Description[/b] > papyrus ; 16.3 x 11.5 cm - Medium quality papyrus. The fragment is either a loose sheet or part of a small roll. [b]Notes[/b] > Egypt Location: Oriental Institute On recto: 20 lines in Arabic; on verso: 19 lines in Arabic Poor [b][i]semicursive[/i] naskhi[/b] script in an [b][i]unstable[/i] and [i]underdeveloped[/i] script[/b]. Circles, with or without dots, are used for punctuation and possibly collation. The pear-shaped device in line 5, recto, is due to an attempt to cover an error. Pub. status: Published: recto and verso Source of description: On recto and verso: Hadith [b]Subject(s)[/b] > Hadith Islam [b]Associated Name(s)[/b] > Abu Salih 'Abd al-Ghaffar ibn Da'ud al-Harrani (?) [b]Notes on Custodial History[/b] > Unknown Source: [i]wwwapp.cc.columbia.edu[/i] And then, courtesy of [i]The British Library Board[/i] we have: [i]This elegant, detailed Qur'an is [b]one of the earliest dated examples of naskhi script[/b], the Arabic calligraphic hand which became one of the most popular styles for such manuscripts thanks to its legibility.[/i] [IMG]http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/sacredtexts/images/iraqiquran_sm.jpg[/IMG] [URL=http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/sacredtexts/images/iraqiquran_lg.jpg]enlarged version[/URL] [i]Qur’an, Iraq or Persia, 1036. Chapter 37, al-Saffat (The Ranked Fliers), verse 20 to Chapter 38, Sad (The Letter Sad), verse 35 BL Add. MS 7214, f. 52v Copyright © The British Library Board[/i] Inference: Obviously, if the top APIS item is considered to be "semi-cursive", and Naskhi is widely known to be a highly cursive script, then the said APIS papyrus piece cannot be Naskhi itself, or at the least, Naskhi "proper". Moreover, the said papyrus example is supposed to be part of a religious (Islamic) literature. It is supposedly dated to between the 8th and 9th century. Yet, the British library example, which is highly cursive, is said to be "one of the earliest dated" examples of Naskhi script; it too, happens to be of Islamic (Quran) literature. It is supposedly dated to the 11th century, about the time in which various sources place the fully-developed Naskhi script's early appearances. In each case, both Hieratic and Demotic were essentially out of use by the attributed dates. What's more important, the point I've been trying to convey, is that the Arabic letter set appears to consist of carryovers from the Nabataean script [which itself is deemed part of the Proto-Sinaitic line]...obviously with some additional features. In fact Arabic script itself, as the above mentioned historical items seem to demonstrate, had to go through a [i]process[/i] or [i]stages[/i] of morphological transitioning before attaining its contemporary highly cursive form...going from a semi-cursive to a highly cursive form over time, which seems to argue against a *direct* influence from an already [i]fully-developed[/i] [b]highly[/b] [i]cursive[/i] script like either Hieratic or Demotic. Side by side graphic analysis... [IMG]http://www.alphabetandletter.com/gifs/aramaic.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.ancientscripts.com/images/arabic.gif[/IMG] Yes, Arabic lettering is more cursive than its alleged forerunners, in a pattern wherein there appears to be a [i]sequential[/i] waning of the cursive form as one moves along the family tree from child to parent, but its letter forms do demonstrate an apparent evolutionary relationship with those scripts. Naturally [as the additional point made], highly cursive proto-Sinaitic derived scripts are prone to bear strong "first-glance" physical resemblance to either the highly cursive Hieratic or Demotic, because of [i]kinship[/i] in the sense that they all ultimately share a common [Nile Valley] ancestor. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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