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as you know we are to some degree the most feared and hated religion and growing even more steadier .what do you think of ISLAM ..AND DO YOU THINK IT WILL ACHIEVE ITS GOAL..and are you a believer in the second coming ..
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if i told you how i actually percieve islam you would laugh at me ,even though im a muslim and proud ,and i do condemn terriosm in all forms and of any religion in fact or not religious..i live my religion to the day that i am in,i have been given the guidence and knowledge to love,and feel , i use my QURAN has my guiedence and friend and a planner too ,i call it the manuel of everyday life ..do i think we will achieve our status .actually yes if we choose the path to educate and achieve ,but no if we carry on with our destructive ways by being ou, own worst enemy . but i certainly wont be preached to or told how to be by any one 'ALLAH gave me thinking not for sumone to tell me how to think and do ,that s what makes unique ,but most of the time we abuse our minds....
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The problem is with the so called "Muslims" not Islam as a religion. Muslims are representing a distorted image of Islam. People learn , talk and debate but untill they practice they would be labeled as hypocrites.
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My opinion of Islam itself will be somewhat different from many Westerners, because I actually live in a Muslim society and I am open-minded. What, exactly are you refering to Chimps, when you say "Do you think it will achieve its goal?"?? If the goal of Muslim fanatics is to misrepresent Islam and have people hate them, then yes, it has achieved its goal. That is unfortunate, but these are the people who are making their voices heard, and who are making a bad name for a peaceful religion.
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yeah just boffed sumine today for being a piEce of **** to wards me and my daughter any one seen a hijab mother punch a skin head in the face well i did today and got nearely arrested ,next time i stab the **** head who makes advances to a little girl saying she was onl;y fit for a shag..BASTERD ???,I ONCE WALKED DOWN THE STREET WITH NO HEAD SCARF ME AND MY DAUGHTER NOTHING HAPPENED THE NEXT DAY I DID WITH HIJAB AND GOT INSULTS U SEE THE Scarf AND BECOME A THREAT BUT FOR WHAT ,IT DONT SYMBOLISE WAR ,AND IM NOT RLEIGIOUS AT ALL IM QUITE MODERATE IN MY SELF..what are they afraid of or what goes in theremind when they see this...
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he touched her >>>>>>>>thats the problem no go area you dont dooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....i actually dont give a damn of his hair cut my brother is a baldy so wat if i labelled im labelled your all labelled they do it here im doing and now it s crap of a day ..........................he put his hand on her no go get me no go im kill any one put his dirty mother fcking hands on my girl ...................i cud have made the situation worst but i sorted it myslef...
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The Bush administration offered some friendly public advice to Egypt, one of its closest allies in the Arab world, when the State Department spokesman told Cairo to lighten up on protesters.
"We urge the Egyptian government to permit peaceful demonstrations on behalf of reform and civil liberties by those exercising their rights to freedom of assembly and expression," he said.
McCormack made it clear that it is not U.S. policy to tell Egypt what kind of political course to take. "The issue here," he said, "is whether or not people can peacefully protest, express freely their thoughts, their feelings about actions that their government has taken."
--------------------------------------------------A friend and I walked behind the marchers and were getting a feel for the atmosphere as the marchers turned left onto Adly Street. I was initially shocked they were letting them march. Yet, within 300 meters of being on Adly Street, people turned around and began running in the opposite direction when plain-clothes State Security thugs attacked the marchers. We followed suit and turned off the main street. After the initial threat of being attacked by those we could not see subsided, we regrouped with our larger circle of friends on intersection of the street parallel to Talaat Harb and Adly streets. We walked south on that street and as I looked up I saw three plain clothes state security personnel forcibly escorting a protester coming towards us. One state security officer was on each side holding the demonstrator while the third officer punched him in the face, in the stomach, and slapped him on the head. The protester could not defend himself. After that protester passed, I noticed a second but identical incident occurring in front of us. About this time, a female journalist pulled out her camera and snapped a picture. The man beating the protester ran towards her with the intent of taking her camera. The journalist was frightened and retreated. The thug did not relent. A friend of mine and I stepped between the female journalist and the thug. As he starred us down, I said to him, “She is a journalist.” He did care. The journalist was screaming “No! No! No!” at him. He looked at me and said “And where are you from?” I said “America” and he asked “Where in America?” I felt like saying any small town name from any obscure state and asking the ignorant bastard if he knew it. He asked for my press card. I told him “I don’t have one.” Then he threatened me by saying, “I will take you and then we call the US embassy and let them sort out your problem.” My friend injected and said there was no problem. The security officer snapped back, “And who are you?” He replied respectfully and the officer tried to further intimidate us. To my shock, my friend cracked a smile and remained polite. A more senior officer in a suit walked by and told the subordinate minion to leave us alone and “not to hit anyone”. Then, he shot us one last dirty look and we parted.
We turned right to get on the street parallel to Adly Street and then right again to get back on Talaat Harb Street. We proceeded to the intersection from where we could see the back of the High Court, which was behind phalanxes of CSF. About this time, more CSF were showing up on street corners. I thought it was in case of an emergency that they could quickly seal the streets off. We were standing and chatting near the CSF at the High Court when a group gathered. A friend went over and said that they were interviewing someone. When the interview ended, applause roared out from through watching the man giving the interview. Within 30-seconds that group started holding up signs that read “Pharmacists of Egypt with Judges of Egypt”. They were chanting slogans. Journalists started talking to protesters and video journalists were recording the scene. My guess is that there were 30-50 people participating in the ad hoc demo. Within 2 minutes a battalion of around 200 plain-clothes State Security thugs emerged from the southward direction on Talaat Harb Street. A majority of those thugs sieged the demonstrators carrying them away in groups of, at least, three-on-one as they beat them into submission. They were stuffing the demonstrators they carted away into the entrances of non-descript downtown buildings.
At that point, I also saw thugs attacking journalists. They beat the Al-Jazeera video cameraperson as well as the Reuters videographer. Then they began attacking female Egyptian/American journalists. By this point, I was distancing myself away from the core of the scuffle to get some protection and perspective. All I can hear was a female screaming bloody murder as State Security pulled her hair and tried to steal her camera.
We managed to all escaped southward and into the Excelsior café across from the Miami cinema to regroup. All the women journalists I was with were shaken up and a little roughed up but not injured.
[…] Basically to sum-up my experience this morning: A significant amount of people (Islamists, MB, Kifaya, liberals, pharmacists, and others) came out to protest in solidarity against the trumped-up joke that has become the Egyptian legal system’s pro-regime lackeys trying their own. While the amounts of security made one unified gathering impossible, a number of sporadic protests took place when possible. It was sort of like a game of cat and mouse.
I have often questioned the utility of all the protesting that has occurred in Cairo since December 2004. Yet, today was impressive to watch people come out and start chanting when they knew security was going to respond within minutes – arresting some of them, beating some of them. Rather than give up, the remaining protesters would disperse and regroup and challenge the state again, against all hopes of actually achieving anything. Their bravery and their tenacity should be commended. Regardless of the people detained since 24 April (according to HRW, the number is over 100), people continue to turn out in the face of their decreasing numbers.
Also, reports came in that said that a CSF truck fell over the 6th October Bridge in Abbasaya killing 10 and injuring 20 of the CSF conscripts. This state is hopeless. It is authoritarian and rotten to its core and one can only hope that some sort of change occurs. Yet, I remain skeptical that no matter how brave or stubborn the social forces resisting the state are, that much can be achieved. In Egypt, there can be no third way. This is not a state that is behaving like its scared or weak. It is a state that is boldly asserting its repressive power against its unarmed citizens. This state is not interested in practicing politics. It is incapable of dealing with its polity politically or diffusing political problems. Instead, it relies on repression, coercion, and intimidation. A high majority of Egyptians will be forced in acquiescence through fear. Yet, fear cannot and will not ever expand regime power. Lastly, word has emerged that the judges under trial – Hisham Bastawisi and Mahmoud Mekki - went to the High Court this morning accompanied by their lawyers and a delegation of judges. They were told that their entourage could not enter the High Court. Instead, only 8 people would be allowed to enter and the court informed them that it reserved the right to select their delegates. Bastawisi and Mekki refused to enter after this gross insult. They left the court and returned to the Judges Club where they remain hold up with scores of their colleagues. They say they will not be going to any more court cases until the Security Forces are removed from the streets and the protesters are released.
The pro-reform judges were Egypt’s heroes before today. Now, they are not only heroes but legends. And they are the most important symbols of this very nasty and seemingly hopeless struggle for the political heart and future of Egypt.
In agreement!
Plainclothes policemen dragged away cameramen from news organisations, including Reuters and Al Jazeera television, and confiscated their cameras.
An Al Jazeera cameraman was badly beaten, an Al Jazeera correspondent said.
Plainclothes police dragged 15 demonstrators from a crowd of around 300 marching in Cairo in support of the judges and beat them badly. At least one activist was seen bleeding from the face after he was held against a wall and beaten.
Other demonstrators dispersed when the security forces began their crackdown. The demonstrators had included supporters of the opposition Muslim Brotherhood and secular activists.
The cracks are showing
Ok, how about some updates of things that are happening in Egypt?
Activists Aida Saif al-Dalwa and around 15 women were demonstrating outside the public prosecutors (next to the Lawyers syndicate) over the detention of the Kifaya activists yesterday. According to the last reports, they were overwhelmingly surrounded and trapped by security and there was likely to be arrests.
In Port Said, also yesterday, according to a Kifaya Activist Mohamad Tamiya, 15 women were arrested for "blocking traffic", "unlawful gathering", (there are also reports they would be charged with "insulting the President"). The back story is that the women live in shanty-towns and have been having a sit-in for over a week. Today, the state responded.
And today, while driving to work through downtown, I counted 18 antri-riot police cars parked on one street. 18. And they shut down The Abdel Khale2 Tharwat street (no cars going in), which houses many Union headquarters. They even have the security forces deployed all over the street. The Reason? There is a 10 am demonstration today, which Kifaya, the unions and other parties and activists are organizing. Given the amount of seucirty forces deployed, I would say that the Ministery of interior is preparing for a war. I will be updating you as the news arrives.
Man, I swear to god living in Egypt is like living in the wild wild west these days!
a friend to a friend .......
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quote:Originally posted by ChImPs_REVENGING: he touched her >>>>>>>>thats the problem no go area you dont dooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....i actually dont give a damn of his hair cut my brother is a baldy so wat if i labelled im labelled your all labelled they do it here im doing and now it s crap of a day ..........................he put his hand on her no go get me no go im kill any one put his dirty mother fcking hands on my girl ...................i cud have made the situation worst but i sorted it myslef...
chimps, what you do to defend your daughter is up to you. i'd do the same.
what i objected to was your use of the term 'skin head'.... especially in a post about how you are seen just because you wear a hijab.
you didnt say "anyone ever seen a hijab mum punch a racist man in the face" you used the term 'skin head'.. you just displayed exactly the same misinterpretation of appearance as the person you were complaining about.
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oh well i hold my hands up there then probably wasnt thinking straight at the time ..been down the shitty cop shop allday..just got back and looking in here ..yes probably i should of not use the word skin head and should have framed it properly cause iof me wearing the hijab i was going to a funeral at the time ,in fact i hate the bloody thing every day on i wear ahat instead a wooly one to cover my hair i made my slef made a few in fact ...doesnt mean im against hijab .my brother is a baldy and my cousins should have looked carefully there ACCEPT APOLOGIES PLEASE.. but yeas hes caused a stir here now touching her PAKIS last night fight and was not through me saying it got out through a nosey neighbour ...
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quote:Originally posted by QUEEN OF THE THE UNIVERSE: the fact that muslims around the world are prosecuted and humiliated is one of the small signs of jugdementday
the UMMAH is weak and has no power
muslims have to practice their religion as best as they can and wait for the al mahdi to arrive
he would arrive when muslims are being oppressed by other religions that's clearly happening today
the muslims will fight the last jihad with swords and horses
oil gas and other natural resources are running out no weapons factories no tanks no F 22's
jugdement day is near!!
Islam started to have a bad image since 9/11.
ppl dont represent Islam in a proper way, they mix Islam with their own culture which is one BIG mistake, coz a non muslims doesn't know which is which and our culture has a lot of draw backs, so their natural judgemnet on Islam is...nah
while they don't know they r judging Arab cultures.......
and of course an idiot like bin laden and the other goons from al qaida and other terrorist organizatoins give the impression that Islam is a violant religion while it's not, the culture is and the ppl are. Middle eastern cultures are know of their lack of tolerance and aggressivness.
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probably something is in the water that attacks muslims only Posts: 1602 | From: the banana island shake me tweeeeeeee | Registered: Jan 2006
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