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What do you think it would be like?

What religion would you want it to be and why?
or would you rather it was a combination of the best bits of religions?

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Ideally Islam but it would have to be without the hadith.

If you had Islam without the hadith you would find it was quite a lot like Christianity.

or Christianity without the trinity, the worship of saints and Mary, and emphasis on God not Jesus the prophet.

or Buddhism with the addition of God. lol

[Big Grin]

There is only one God, he does not have equals, the Quran is the last book in the chapter.

One God, no trinity, no hadith.

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quote:
Originally posted by necromancer:
Ideally Islam but it would have to be without the hadith.

oh! believers Obey Allah and Obey his prophet.
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i have to agree with necromancer.

Sultan, Allah had many prophets not just one. All those prophets said the same thing, WORSHIP ONE GOD.

There is a hadith that says nothing of Muhammed (pbuh) should be written down except Quran. Allah did not miss anything out, He didnt forget anything that has since been added by men when compiling hadith 100s of years after the death of Muhammed (pbuh). It is also in Quran AND Bible that nothing should be added or taken away from the Word of God.

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A world with one religion sounds like hell as no one can yet prove what God is. All religion is merely speculation, to me. Personally, I don't care if someone worships twenty Gods, one or none. The version of God that I sometimes read about on ES is so far removed from decency, goodness and justice that it makes me embarrassed for the more fanatical followers. I would bet that God is embarrassed too. [Embarrassed] Believing in God means nothing, if you are an intolerant hypocrite. [Frown]
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quote:
Originally posted by Ayisha:
i have to agree with necromancer.

Sultan, Allah had many prophets not just one. All those prophets said the same thing, WORSHIP ONE GOD.

There is a hadith that says nothing of Muhammed (pbuh) should be written down except Quran. Allah did not miss anything out, He didnt forget anything that has since been added by men when compiling hadith 100s of years after the death of Muhammed (pbuh). It is also in Quran AND Bible that nothing should be added or taken away from the Word of God.

Are the five daily prayers mentioned in the Qur’aan?

Question:
The Holy Qur'an, Surah 30: Al Rum 17 "SO (GIVE) GLORY TO ALLAH, WHEN YE REACH EVENTIDE AND WHEN YE RISE IN THE MORNING;" 18 "YEA,TO HIM BE PRAISE, IN THE HEAVENS AND ON EARTH; AND IN THE LATE AFTERNOON AND WHEN THE DAY BEGINS TO DECLINE." These verses only mention four prayers,but yet Muslims pray five times a day (plus Sunnah). Why does it not state the fifth prayer? PS. I'am a practicig Muslim (Inshallah) and I'am in no way trying to prove the Qur'an wrong.

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Praise be to Allaah.

In the Tafseer of this aayah, it is reported that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The five daily prayers are (mentioned) in the Qur’aan.” He was asked, “Where?” He said, “Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): ‘So glorify Allaah when you come up to the evening’ is maghrib and ‘isha’; ‘and when you enter the morning’ is fajr; ‘in the afternoon’ is ‘asr; and ‘the time when the day begins to decline’ is zuhr.” Other mufassireen, such as al-Dahhaak and Sa’eed ibn Jubayr said the same thing.

Some of the mufassireen said that these aayat mention only four of the prayers; ‘isha’ is not mentioned here, but it is mentioned in Soorat Hood, where Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “… and in some hours of the night…” [Hood 11:114]

Most of the mufassireen are of the first opinion. Al-Nahhaas (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “The scholars of Tafseer say that the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): ‘So glorify Allaah when you come up to the evening and when you enter the morning…’ [al-Room 30:17] refers to the prayers.”

Imaam al-Jassaas (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): ‘… The prayer is enjoined on the believers at fixed times [mawqootan].’ [al-Nisa’ 4:103]. It was reported that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood said: ‘[Mawqootan means that] Salaah has an appointed time just as Hajj does.’ It was reported that Ibn ‘Abbaas, Mujaahid and ‘Atiyyah said [that mawqootan means] ‘It is obligatory’… The word ‘mawqootan’ means that it is obligatory at certain times. The times are referred to in general terms in this aayah and are explained elsewhere in the Book, without defining precisely when those times start and end – that was explained in detail by the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). What Allaah mentioned about the times of the prayers in His Book is (interpretation of the meaning): “Perform al-Salaah from mid-day till the darkness of the night and recite the Qur’aan in the early dawn…” [al-Isra’ 17:78]. Mujaahid reported from Ibn ‘Abbaas: “’Mid-day’ means when the sun has passed its zenith for salaat al-zuhr, and ‘the darkness of the night’ means the beginning of the night, for salaat al-maghrib.” It was also reported from Ibn ‘Umar that mid-day meant the zenith… Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And perform al-salaah at the two ends of the day and in some parts of the night” [Hood 11:114]. ‘Amr reported from al-Hasan that ‘the two ends of the day’ means fajr at the first end and zuhr and ‘asr at the other; ‘some parts of the night’ means maghrib and ‘isha’. So according to this opinion the aayah refers to all five prayers…. Layth reported from al-Hakam from Abu ‘Ayyaad that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “This aayah mentions all five prayers together. ‘So glorify Allaah when you come up to the evening’ refers to maghrib and ‘isha’, ‘and when you enter the morning’ refers to fajr, ‘in the afternoon’ is ‘asr; and ‘the time when the day begins to decline’ is zuhr.” Something similar was also reported from al-Hasan.

Abu Razeen reported from Ibn ‘Abbaas: “ ‘…and glorify the praises of your Lord before the rising of the sun and before (its) setting’ [Qaaf 50:39 – interpretation of the meaning] refers to the prescribed prayers. ‘… and glorify the praises of your Lord before the rising of the sun, and before its setting, and during some of the hours of the night, and at the sides of the day, that you may become pleased with the reward which Allaah shall give you.’ [Ta-Ha 20:130 – interpretation of the meaning] This aayah also includes the times of the prayers. All of these aayaat mention the times of the prayers.”

Ahkaam al-Qur’aan by al-Jassaas, Baab Mawaaqeet al-Salaah.

What you should also know is that the Qur’aan does not contain details of all the rules. The Qur’aan mentions many rules, but it also tells us that the Sunnah is a source of evidence in which many rules are mentioned in detail that are not mentioned in the Qur’aan. Allaah says (interpretation of the meanings):

“… and We have also sent down to you (O Muhammad) the reminder and the advice (the Qur’aan), that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them and that they may give thought.” [al-Nahl 16:44]

“… and whatsoever the Messenger gives you, take it…” [al-Hashr 59:7]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I have been given the Qur’aan and something like it with it…” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad, 16546; this is a saheeh hadeeth). Whether the rules were narrated in the Qur’aan or in the Sunnah, all of it is true and right, and all of it has one source, which is the wahy or revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.

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"Unto every one of you We have appointed a (different) law and way of life. And if God had so willed, He could surely have made you all one single community: but (He willed it otherwise) in order to test you by means of what He has vouchsafed unto you. Vie, then, with one another in doing good works. Unto God you all must return; and then He will make you truly understand all that on which you were wont to differ."

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quote:
Originally posted by Ayisha:

There is a hadith that says nothing of Muhammed (pbuh) should be written down except Quran.

Hanbal: Vol 1, page 177:
Abi Said al Khudri reported that the Prophet said, "Do not write down anything from me except the Quran. Whoever writes down anything other than the Quran must erase it."

Muslim: Book 41, Number 7147:
Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri: Allah's Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) said: Do not take down anything from me, and he who took down anything from me except the Qur'an, he should efface that…

Abu Dawud: Book 25, Number 3640:
Al-Muttalib ibn Abdullah ibn Hantab said: Zayd ibn Thabit entered upon Mu'awiyah and asked him about a tradition. He ordered a man to write it. Zayd said: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) ordered us not to write any of his hadith. So he erased it.

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`Ulum al-Qur’an appeared early with the dawn of Islam. The first generation of believers used to meet in the house of Al-Arqam to memorize, recite, contemplate and learn the Qur’an. The most important forms of Qur’anic sciences were learned orally by the Companions and were not recorded for various reasons. Some of these reasons were:

1. Most of the Companions were illiterate and did not know how to read or write.

2. The tools for writing were not easily accessible to them.

3. The Prophet's (peace and blessings be upon him) order: "Do not take down anything from me, and he who took down anything from me except the Qur’an, he should efface that." (Narrated by Abu Said al-Khudri. Collected by Muslim No. 7147).

Note that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) later authorized the writing of his Hadith. Scholars give many reasons for this, including the concern that the Qur’an might be confused with Hadith or other sayings, or because the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) wanted to show that the duty of conveying the Message is not restricted to the scribes, and Allah Knows best.

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