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Originally posted by Sharona:
Islam can it find peace or not .
Can Islam be reformed into a non-terrorist religion?

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Originally posted by Millas:
Then,did I understand the question wrongly?
Can Islam be reformed into a non-terrorist religion?

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No its completely knackered .

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Nawash: I can easily agree with most of the statements made by Walid Shoebat and Prof. Khaleel Mohammed. However, they both make a crucial mistake that is made by most intellectuals who tackle the issue of Islamic reformation. Both rely on the Koran and other Islamic religious text to justify their conclusions. This is not a formula for success and will always fail. The fact is, the Koran, similar to the Bible and the Torah, says what ever the reader wants it to say. Thus, in his interpreting of Islamic text, I have no doubt that Mr. Mohammed is sincere in interpreting Islam as a peaceful, loving religion. I also believe that Mr. Shoebat is sincere and justified in interpreting Islam as an evil religion. The Koran has many verses that can justify both interpretations.

In light of this, all who are interested in Islamic reformation must begin with the belief that Islam is no innocent bystander in the violence perpetrated by Muslims. Just as moderate Christians and Jews acknowledged the nasty side of their holy texts, modern Muslims must acknowledge that the Koran can easily be used to justify terror and evil. It is not sufficient for moderate Muslims to argue that certain passages in the Koran are being politically exploited. Muslims must realize that the passages would not be exploited if they didn't exist.

As to whether we need an Islamic reformation, the answer is YES. If Islamic society is to become prosperous, free and democratic, a true reformation must take place within the Arab and Muslim nations. The governments of the Muslim world must remove theocratic Islam as the most dynamic force within their borders. Secularization, respect for other faiths and self-criticism must be achieved in order to attain Islamic reformation and the elimination of the daily violence resulting from a plausible interpretation of Islam.

The key to Islamic reformation is the promotion of secularism which will lead to the rationalism that is, unfortunately, rejected by most Muslims today. Secularism and rationalism is how Christians and Jews reformed their religions. For example, in Europe, rationalism lead to scientific discoveries that undermined the Aristotelian physics upon which the church had built its view of the universe. These discoveries ultimately discredited the church as the giver of the only truth about everything and relegated religion in the Western world to a personal relationship between an individual and his Lord. This is what is needed in Islam today. We need to slowly remove religion from public life and relegate it to a personal relationship between the individual and his Lord.

As to why we don’t have attempts at reformation, self-criticism and self-questioning, it is dangerous to do so. The Muslim religious establishment immediately labels anyone who seeks reform as an infidel, anti-Muslim or agents of the Mossad and CIA. Moreover, even “secular” governments such as Egypt prosecute people who seek reform in order to appease the religious establishment and their ignorant Muslim followers who regard such calls for reformation to be so offensive as to justify violent retribution. [...]

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Originally posted by pure spring:
sharona, Islam is religion of peace. Modern media and certain intelligence try to stick terror in Islam to build what is known as "Islamophopia".They use some terrorist groups here and there by financial support and remote control to justify their aims.You know the story of "Jihad" in Afghanistan against the Soviets and who created and supported them.If you want to know which religin is treligion of terror, please, read the history. Islam have given the freedom to believe and practice their own religion. The Umayyads, the Abbassids, the Fatimids, the Mamluks and the Ottomans have given the freedom of religion and you can find minorities of all religions in every place of the Islamic World, while the Catholics in spain wiped out all others even other Christian factions and Jews from Spain after the collapse of the Islamic Impire in Spain in 1493. Fatimids used to have Jews and people of Armenian orgins as prime ministers in their religious State, that was in the tenth, eleventh and twelveth centuries.Now, Muslims are the target and victims of terrorism, look how many Muslims killed in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan. Terrorism is the play of the devil , innocents are the victims.

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