Chalk up the city of New Orleans as a cost of Bush's Iraq war.
There were not enough helicopters to repair the breached levees and rescue people trapped by rising water. Nor are there enough Louisiana National Guardsmen available to help with rescue efforts and to patrol against looting.
The situation is the same in Mississippi.
The National Guard and helicopters are off on a fool's mission in Iraq.
We were the fools, for believing the lies.
Why can't the U.S. government focus on America's needs and leave other countries alone? Why are American troops in Iraq instead of protecting our own borders from a mass invasion by illegal immigrants? Why are American helicopters blowing up Iraqi homes instead of saving American homes in New Orleans?
How can the Bush administration be so incompetent as to expose Americans at home to dire risks by exhausting American resources in foolish foreign adventures? What kind of "homeland security" is this?
All Bush has achieved by invading Iraq is to kill and wound thousands of people while destroying America's reputation. The only beneficiaries are oil companies capitalizing on a good excuse to jack up the price of gasoline and Osama bin Laden's recruitment.
What we have is a Republican war for oil company profits while New Orleans sinks beneath the waters.
In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war.
quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: angel...how does it feel to always be wrong?
Oh wow, that's a terrific question, let's ask George Bush and his administration, let's see, wrong about :
* WMD * Economy * Taxes * Jobs * Education * Environment * Liberty * International Relations * Government and lastly ATTITUDE. The attitude of a President should foster involvement of everyone in an open governemnt. The President is not our King, but one of us, and his attitude must be one of respect for everyone. George Bush doesn't get that, he is completely wrong... AGAIN.
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nobody believes your anti american dribble angel. I thought you were smart until you started talking about isreal being responsible for 9/11 and squaking about the Palestinian issue. stop insulting the american people and start packing.
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Horembub- Since you think Americans are so superior, and you live close to Houston, why don't you take your energies, and organize your new neighbors at the Astrodome. I'm sure you could gather water, food, and clothing for them.
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crazylobo...that is exactly what we are doing. I'll be at the University of houston vs oregon football game tonight at Reliant, next to the Astrodome. We have collected enough food to feed a small army.
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: crazylobo...that is exactly what we are doing. I'll be at the University of houston vs oregon football game tonight at Reliant, next to the Astrodome. We have collected enough food to feed a small army.
Lol 'we', that means the Univeristy of Houston, HE hasn't done a thing, he's too busy finding anit-americans
quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: crazylobo...that is exactly what we are doing. I'll be at the University of houston vs oregon football game tonight at Reliant, next to the Astrodome. We have collected enough food to feed a small army.
Nagin: White House ignores pleas to save New Orleans; helicopters diverted
Total Information Analysis | August 31 2005
8:07 pm CDT -- New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin has given a remarkable interview to WWL TV, broadcast on wwltv.com. Nagin said that the National Guard's Blackhawk helicopter carrying the sandbags to plug the hole in the levee on 17th St. Canal was diverted to rescue misssions.
Nagin said he called the governor, and that he and other state and local officials are unsuccesfully trying to get through to the White House to ask if the people in Washington know what they're doing.
The White House switchboard is 202-456-1414.
To ask the La. Air National Guard to ignore Bush's treasonous orders and plug the hole, call (504) 271-6262 .
quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: crazylobo...that is exactly what we are doing. I'll be at the University of houston vs oregon football game tonight at Reliant, next to the Astrodome. We have collected enough food to feed a small army.
So are you going to help cook the food and serve it?
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This shows us how stupid a woman angel really is:WASHINGTON The federal government began an unprecedented relief effort along the Gulf Coast on Wednesday, sending everything from Navy ships and National Guard troops to medical supplies, food and water to the devastated region.
"We will work tirelessly to ensure that our fellow citizens have the sustained support and the necessary aid to reclaim their homes, their lives and their communities," said Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, who is running the Bush administration's response.
At a briefing in Washington with five Cabinet secretaries and other high-ranking officials, Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt said the government is "gravely concerned" about infectious disease outbreaks, especially cholera and typhoid. He and the other officials detailed a massive federal relief effort:
The Federal Emergency Management Agency began moving 50 medical disaster teams into the area. It sent 1,700 trailer trucks with water, ice, meals, medical supplies, generators, tents and tarps.
The Coast Guard continued round-the-clock rescues crews had rescued nearly 2,000 people by Wednesday and sent three teams in to help remove hazardous materials.
The Environmental Protection Agency temporarily waived some clean-air rules to allow companies to produce more gasoline.
The Transportation department sent more than 400 trucks to move 5.4 million MREs (meals ready-to-eat), 13.4 million liters of water, 10,000 tarps, 3.4 million pounds of ice and 144 generators.
Health and Human Services has sent 250 mobile hospital beds, 38 public health service officers and a mobile command post with computers and communications equipment. Plans call for a total of 10,000 beds and 4,000 medical personnel.
The department has identified 40,000 available hospital beds around the country and sent 27 pallets of medical supplies from the national stockpile. Officials from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also are working to develop a mosquito-abatement program in flooded areas.
The Defense department sent eight swift-water rescue teams, a 500-bed mobile hospital, 50 helicopters, eight ships with medical and transportation supplies and a hospital ship. And 11,000 National Guard troops have been deployed.
Chertoff said he couldn't estimate the cost to the federal government. "We're not keeping a running tally," he said. "I anticipate this is going to be a very, very substantial effort. I don't even think we have fully assessed all of the collateral consequences .... We have a substantial challenge, but we do have some substantial
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doesn't much help the flooding if they can't get the black hawks out to lift the huge sandbags to fix the levee does it smarty? but good try, E for effort Posts: 275 | From: USA | Registered: Jul 2005
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quote:Originally posted by crazylobo: So are you going to help cook the food and serve it?
Horembub--
You don't answer my question, so are you going to help serve the food? Have you cleaned out your clothes closet, maybe your wife's too, and kids, and see if there is any clothes not worn, to give to your new neighbors?
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You get dumber by the minute angel...they are lifting the bags in place. the Blackhawks are busy killing as many of your terrorist friends as they can. We'll keep doing that until they quit. You can post all the silly little pictures you want and we'll keep killing scum bags in Iraq.
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Yes lobo, I did. I'm not quite as hard hearted as you think. In fact, I have a four o'clock class and then I'm headed to the ball game. Have a great day.
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His life's one big party, meanwhile he's happy people are dying for a lie here and abroad.
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Things I learnt living in USA 1. Louisiana and Mississippi are renegade states 2. They are backward. 3. They are '3rd World nations'. 4. Only Africans live there (relatively speaking) 5. They could be a 'foreign nation'. 6. No lights, no electricity but people stealing TV and boomboxes! Go figure! 7. Some effort being made to help people (later than sooner) but some vagabonds shooting at helicopters trying to save lives 8. God Bless America. 9. Only in USA
quote:Originally posted by yazid904: Things I learnt living in USA 1. Louisiana and Mississippi are renegade states 2. They are backward. 3. They are '3rd World nations'. 4. Only Africans live there (relatively speaking) 5. They could be a 'foreign nation'. 6. No lights, no electricity but people stealing TV and boomboxes! Go figure! 7. Some effort being made to help people (later than sooner) but some vagabonds shooting at helicopters trying to save lives 8. God Bless America. 9. Only in USA
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dude! that f*cked up, theres folks still dying there, they are human beings!
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Actually the state of New Orleans isn't part of the union's federal disaster plan.
I know that it takes the governers personal permission for the coast guard to even go near its waters off the coast. Even on a city to city level, mayors and police chiefs must give personal permission for the coast guard and federal disaster relief to operate. No counties, only state and city level. Lousiana is the most corrupt state in North America, it doesn't want outside intervention.
Its as much as the different cities cooperating, as the cities cooperating with the coast guard and federal 'occupiers'.
Lousiana doesn't do business with the federal government on many levels, disaster relief has been something Lousiana has maintained it will do on its own.
Sorry guys, but even Guam and Puerto Rico has to allow the Feds and the Coast guard access to its communication systems and airwaves.
We need Lousiana to allow the Feds to come in and help. Many cities are so horrendous corrupt and anti-Union of the States that they would rather allow suffering of their citizens than interference from Washington, DC.
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Horemheb, whether or not a state accepts federal disaster relief is not our topic. You are just afraid to admit our precious government you seem to think reflects YOU as a person would pretty much drop the ball if any disaster on a scale of this one ever occurred, be it natural disaster, another attack to our country, anything. If anything I hope they will learn from this huge disaster and human suffering that they need to get their acts together.
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quote:Originally posted by sonomod: Actually the state of New Orleans isn't part of the union's federal disaster plan.
I know that it takes the governers personal permission for the coast guard to even go near its waters off the coast. Even on a city to city level, mayors and police chiefs must give personal permission for the coast guard and federal disaster relief to operate. No counties, only state and city level. Lousiana is the most corrupt state in North America, it doesn't want outside intervention.
Its as much as the different cities cooperating, as the cities cooperating with the coast guard and federal 'occupiers'.
Lousiana doesn't do business with the federal government on many levels, disaster relief has been something Lousiana has maintained it will do on its own.
Sorry guys, but even Guam and Puerto Rico has to allow the Feds and the Coast guard access to its communication systems and airwaves.
We need Lousiana to allow the Feds to come in and help. Many cities are so horrendous corrupt and anti-Union of the States that they would rather allow suffering of their citizens than interference from Washington, DC.
SO NOW THIS LONG AFTER THE HURRICANE IT IS THE FAULT OF NEW ORLEANS PEOLE ARE DYEING?
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I am absolutely disgusted. After the tsunami our people, even the ones who lost everything, wanted to help the others who were suffering," said Sajeewa Chinthaka, 36, as he watched a cricket match in Colombo, Sri Lanka.
"Not a single tourist caught in the tsunami was mugged. Now with all this happening in the U.S. we can easily see where the civilized part of the world's population is."
This is how the rest of the world is seeing us Horemheb.
"Osam) bin Laden, nice and dry in his hideaway, must be killing himself laughing."
A female employee at a multinational firm in South Korea said it may have been no accident the U.S. was hit.
"Maybe it was punishment for what it did to Iraq, which has a man-made disaster, not a natural disaster," said the woman, who did not want to be named as she has an American manager.
"A lot of the people I work with think this way. We spoke about it just the other day," she said.
Commentators noted the victims of the hurricane were overwhelmingly African Americans, too poor to flee the region as the hurricane loomed unlike some of their white neighbors.
New Orleans ranks fifth in the United States in terms of African American population and 67 percent of the city's residents are black.
"In one of the poorest states in the country, where black people earn half as much as white people, this has taken on a racial dimension," said a report in Britain's Guardian daily.
Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn, in a veiled criticism of U.S. political thought, said the disaster showed the need for a strong state that could help poor people.
David Fordham, 33, a hospital anesthetist speaking at a London underground rail station, said he had spent time in America and was not surprised the country had struggled to cope.
"Maybe they just thought they could sit it out and everything would be okay," he said.
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Another stupid post from angel. She just relishing slamming the U.S. every chance she gets.
1. Who cares what people in other countries say...screw em. They like to take our foreign aide, they like to sell their products here. All their anti american citizens run here as fast as they can to make a living. Fact is, nobody likes the big guy. Its always been that way, just pure old envy.
2. The Guardian is the most radical paper in the UK. They would not know an unbiased article if it dropped on their empty heads. Again, screw em. Who cares what they write.
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hor, i dont get u even far right wing repubs are slammin the gov for its lack of or slow response no plan at all set up u have problems
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Bush Says Relief Results 'Not Acceptable' ?
President Bush, facing blistering criticism for his administration's response to Hurricane Katrina, said Friday "the results are not acceptable" and pledged to bolster relief efforts with a personal trip to the Gulf Coast.
Too little and way too late. Bush is totally out of touch if he thinks riding into New Orleans at the head of a convoy of food trucks is going to help his image. Indeed the fact that such a stunt is clearly intended to bolster Bush's image will be obvious to all.
The damage is done. There is nothing Bush can do that will not piss off the American people even more.
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Angel, if he walked across water into new orleans it would not help his image with you. truth is though, neither Mr. Bush nor the rest of American care what you think.
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quote:Originally posted by everyday_angel: Lol 'we', that means the Univeristy of Houston, HE hasn't done a thing, he's too busy finding anit-americans
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Was I talking to you Morgan? No i wasn't as far as peeing in your Wheaties it was a joke, idiot,,,, haven't you heard that? Your so uptight, and suffering from misogynism. I hope you have a wonderful day. xxxoooo
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Angel, if he walked across water into new orleans it would not help his image with you. truth is though, neither Mr. Bush nor the rest of American care what you think.
I question why Israel got their wall built with American tax payer money but New Orleans did not. Horemheb, you have to ask difficult questions, whether Bush's image is tarnished or not, it is of little relevance. I agree to some it would not matter what Bush did to improve his image, but honestly, does it matter? Even his visits in Louisiana were admittedly fixed as a co op, they were props of a food distribution center, props of a fake levee repair, they tore them down as soon as the cameras stopped rolling. does this matter? whether or not the scenes are real and accurate? it does for bush, his image is everything, at least to him. I live in Texas, the same as you, and I am asking difficult questions the same as everyone else. Mainly, why if the government knew the majority of New Orleans is in poverty and there was an evacuation called for the city for a hurricane that most didn't have cars or monies with which to leave, why wasn't there an evacuation plan? This is not only for the national government, but also the local city government of new orleans. How are people held accoutable? and When?? Nobody's heads will roll for this disaster (not the hurricane but the destruction after), beause nobody is really willing to admit certain economic and racial truths about our country, simply that the poor and the minorities are in oppression and the rich and the white are not. If this had been Beverly Hills California, or Highland Park in Dallas, or Plano, Texas (affluent places) would the same have happened? No, the Airborne would have been there in 24 hours rescueing people and airlifting and providing food and water. the issues aren't the president or his image but rather about lives, and changing things to anticipate disasters in the future and perhaps taking long looks at ourselves as Americans and the roles we play in our own soceities and cultures of race. Take care, Noor
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Noor, let me respond to some of your points. Isreal built the wall to protect themselves aganist terrorists killers coming from the Palestinan neighborhoods. In areas where the wall has been erected attacks have decreased considerably. You seem to be implying that they should not take steps to defend themselves? In terms of President Bush, he does not have a tarnished image. No relief effort is going to run smoothly in a disaster that big. As you corerectly noted the federal government only has a role to play in those efforts. In Houston we are prepeared for something like that, New Orleans was not. This is just an opportunity for the Bush haters to spew their propaganda. As usual the majority of patriotic Americans will not pay any attention to it. By the way Noor, wealthy residents of New Orleans were wiped out as well. You seem to imply that only poor people are being adversly affected??
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Noor, let me respond to some of your points. Isreal built the wall to protect themselves aganist terrorists killers coming from the Palestinan neighborhoods. In areas where the wall has been erected attacks have decreased considerably. You seem to be implying that they should not take steps to defend themselves? In terms of President Bush, he does not have a tarnished image. No relief effort is going to run smoothly in a disaster that big. As you corerectly noted the federal government only has a role to play in those efforts. In Houston we are prepeared for something like that, New Orleans was not. This is just an opportunity for the Bush haters to spew their propaganda. As usual the majority of patriotic Americans will not pay any attention to it. By the way Noor, wealthy residents of New Orleans were wiped out as well. You seem to imply that only poor people are being adversly affected??
I agree Israel built the wall to protect themselves. Why did they not pay for it? Who pays for it? Why Americans? Also the questions should be, why are they having to defend themselves? Nobody ever seems to want to ask that question Horemheb.
I was not trying to imply no wealthy residents were affected, in Orleans, however it is a fact that the more money you had the more able you were to leave the area when evacuations were called for. By the way what is the definition of a Patriotic American? I'm so curious... Take care, Noor
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Noor, fist, let me welcome you back and I hope you are doing well. You know that the United states gives billions in foreign aide to many many countries, including many Muslim countries. Obviously Isreal gets a huge amount because she has been a reliable ally for 57 years. We were also in favor of building the wall to cut down on the killing that was taking place. Isreal is having to defend herself from terror attacks. These are depraved evil people making these attacks. What kind of person would strap a bomb to a 15 year old girl, pay her parents, and have her blow up herself and anyone else who happens to walk by? Its obvious you have to defend yourself aganist people like that. A 'patriotic' american is a person who puts the best interests of the United States ahead of other concerns.
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The only point of the wall in the West Bank is to make it more difficult for the Palestinians to reclaim that land.
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Noor, fist, let me welcome you back and I hope you are doing well. You know that the United states gives billions in foreign aide to many many countries, including many Muslim countries. Obviously Isreal gets a huge amount because she has been a reliable ally for 57 years. We were also in favor of building the wall to cut down on the killing that was taking place. Isreal is having to defend herself from terror attacks. These are depraved evil people making these attacks. What kind of person would strap a bomb to a 15 year old girl, pay her parents, and have her blow up herself and anyone else who happens to walk by? Its obvious you have to defend yourself aganist people like that. A 'patriotic' american is a person who puts the best interests of the United States ahead of other concerns.
Horemheb, thank you for your greetings, and I hope you too are doing well.
I will not speak with you about this unless you are willing to agree to do it in a respectful way. Will you agree ?
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snoozin, The Palestinians are not going to be able to reclaim the land. That is the problem here...the war between the two has been decided. They can have 'some' land, they cannot have 'the' land. Their inablity to accept reality has been the problem for quite some time. I'm not saying whether it is right or wrong but just the way it is.
Military planners talk in terms of 'assets' when they decide whether or not do go to war. Assets consist of men, tanks, planes ships, etc. In other words, do I have the military power to achieve my objectives? The Palestinians do not have the 'assets' to achieve what they are after. Its time for them to stop.
quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Noor, fist, let me welcome you back and I hope you are doing well. You know that the United states gives billions in foreign aide to many many countries, including many Muslim countries. Obviously Isreal gets a huge amount because she has been a reliable ally for 57 years. We were also in favor of building the wall to cut down on the killing that was taking place. Isreal is having to defend herself from terror attacks. These are depraved evil people making these attacks. What kind of person would strap a bomb to a 15 year old girl, pay her parents, and have her blow up herself and anyone else who happens to walk by? Its obvious you have to defend yourself aganist people like that. A 'patriotic' american is a person who puts the best interests of the United States ahead of other concerns.
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Noor, none of us have contended that everything the Isrealis have done was perfect. They have had their share of terrorism down through the years.
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Noor, none of us have contended that everything the Isrealis have done was perfect. They have had their share of terrorism down through the years.
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