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Horemheb
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You sound like a Nazi when you talk about Zionist the way you do. Hitler used that same garbage on his people..."the jews are running everything." Its pure ignorance. I'll tell you this, the jews are a lot smarter than you. They at least know how to get and maintain American support. Back in the 1970's many of us were much more open minded on the Palestinian issue. 25 years of terror attacks have caused most Americans to want no part of supporting arab causes. isreal has a democratic government and communicates better. They strike the average American as 'more resonable.'
Are you going to send your sons off to die over a rocky piece of ground that has already been lost? You know full well that you cannot defeat us. It does not even matter whether you are right or not, you simply lack the military power.

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So now you do agree that jew have from american *support and maintance*.... or in other words "control"......

Over 25 years, Zioinist have gotton smarte of the control of america....
Infact they are playing more of a dirty game....
but then this goes into consipracy, theories that have not been proved....

for example, the london bombings.....
[Roll Eyes] key areas that have been hit are infact predominatly *ethnic or muslim* popoluateed area, infact one was the well known *arab* area.....

Sure, a "muslim" will bomb such areas for revenage, despite all the other possiblities....
just like how the american army has commands from goverment [or zoinz] kill civilians/mulims where everr you find them.....
these zions have no morale on human life, they will get as dirty as they can, and they really dont give crap of how many "innonces" lives that are taken...as long as it not thiers...
and frankly, yours, or any other american is not theirs....

no wonder why man jews didnt turn up for work on 11/9 [Roll Eyes]


stop supporting zionism, by picking out on hitler.....
hit on that serbian guy, for a change...

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No, all these jewish 9/11 things are garbage. It is the most ignorant stuff I have ever heard.
I do not think the Jews control anything, I think we support them, no doubt about that but we support them because it is in our best interest to do so. I also think the average american supports them because they think they are more civilized, not a little crazy.
You are going to have to learn to live with the jews. There are things that we have to accept in life.
Jerusalem will remain in Jewish hands and you have to know that that dome will not be there forever. You may be aware that a group of Jews almost blew it up a few years ago. I'd be very suprised if it were still there 20 years from now.

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it is in you best interest to support them [Roll Eyes]

hmm, what interest.....


im sorry horemeb, you have no choice but to *support* to them...

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you are a very silly woman. America is the world's only super power, not Isreal.
Ignorance among the arab population is one of the reasons the middle east will remain full of american and British soldiers. many of you are simply to uneducated, and ignorant to survive.

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lol.....
this is too funny....
you made the worst uneducated, ignorant, assumption about me [Roll Eyes]

shows alot about a typical american [Roll Eyes]
no wonder why they chose america .....

you still coulnt answer :
what interest you have 2 support them....

obviouly you cudnt answer, and just made a whole load of assumtion, God knows where from.....
then you just started to make some unessary insults...
so does that make you feel better..

but do you know waht.....
it doesnt change the fact that your still under zionsim rule [Roll Eyes]

lol, what does *super-power* mean....
too much super-man cereals for you...

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quote:
Originally posted by Ki$$7eaven:
no wonder why man jews didnt turn up for work on 11/9 [Roll Eyes]

Tracking an Internet Hoax


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stop supporting zionism, by picking out on hitler.....
hit on that serbian guy, for a change...

Your mixing things up here, Kamal! Not forgetting the Holocaust and what Hitler was all about has nothing to do with supporting Zionism.

For me one of the things the Holocaust should remind us of is how dangerous it can become to blindly accept statements and follow the majority without using your brain and your concsiousness. Does that ring a bell?

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horemb....


maybe you would like to reflect a few stuffs and make some useful contrubution on this thread [Roll Eyes] :

why we dont like....

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quote:
Originally posted by Dalia:
to blindly accept statements and follow the majority without using your brain and your concsiousness. Does that ring a bell? [/QB]

Hi,

Yes it does...
how most of the globe are following statement of the media which belong to z***s...
dont follow the systamtic blinding propaganda of the Z****s....

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haha. The Lights are on, but there is nobody at home! Think I will go and look for yesterdays chip wrapper and read that instead. [Roll Eyes]
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chip wrapper [Confused]

you better off reading this book [click here...

[Roll Eyes]
I know I have been advertising this book quite alot, but it wud be interesting to se what people think after they read this book....
i get no commision btw.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ki$$7eaven:
dont follow the systamtic blinding propaganda of the Z****s....

Please don't assume everyone is brainwashed or stupid, Kamal.
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[Roll Eyes]

slate.com or org

is a jewsih website by the way...
the editor is jewsih.......

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quote:
Originally posted by Ki$$7eaven:
most of the globe are following statement of the media which belong to z***s...

You're again generalizing. "Most of the globe" is following statements of the Zionist media? Have you researched media in most countries? Are you able to read and comprehend the media in countries like Germany, Spain, France, Russia, Italy, Norway and many many others? If your answer is no, then how can you make such a statement???
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y else is there so much "islamphobia" in "most part" of the globe...

do u feel one of the fundamentals belefs of islam is insulting to people?

or is islam just being mis-reprensted....

now I wonder who, and why would any one/gruop/org do such thing..... [Roll Eyes]

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This entire Zionist idea as presented here is simply absurd. The argument is basically the same argument presented by the Nazi's only respun to fit the circumstances in the middle east.
The United states has a minute Jewish population concentrated in a few states. Further, if you look at the board rooms and ceo's of American business you will find even fewer Jews.
The United States is 150 times larger than Isreal both militarily and economically. If anyone is the leader in this relationship it is the United States , not Isreal.
The American people support Isreal, not just our goverment. Why someone in Egypt would become involved in a dispute in Palestine is beyond comprehension. Frankly, it is none of your business. The egyptian government is an ally of the United States and has a peace treaty with Isreal.
Isreal is in the process of solving this problem. They are building a fence which will give them the option of locking the palestinians out if they cannot behave like civilized human beings.
Why should they give jobs to people who want to blow them up? One Jewish businessman put it well last summer, if they keep bombing and killing throw them out and let them starve.

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Now do people understand why some/few/majority of americans are hated....

Horemb shows the true face of an american [Eek!]

apart from being awkward, arrogant and gullible they can be forgiven for that.... [Roll Eyes]


quote:
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This entire Zionist idea as presented here is simply absurd. The argument is basically the same argument presented by the Nazi's only respun to fit the circumstances in the middle east.
The United states has a minute Jewish population concentrated in a few states. Further, if you look at the board rooms and ceo's of American business you will find even fewer Jews.
The United States is 150 times larger than Isreal both militarily and economically. If anyone is the leader in this relationship it is the United States , not Isreal.
The American people support Isreal, not just our goverment. Why someone in Egypt would become involved in a dispute in Palestine is beyond comprehension. Frankly, it is none of your business. The egyptian government is an ally of the United States and has a peace treaty with Isreal.
Isreal is in the process of solving this problem. They are building a fence which will give them the option of locking the palestinians out if they cannot behave like civilized human beings.
Why should they give jobs to people who want to blow them up? One Jewish businessman put it well last summer, if they keep bombing and killing throw them out and let them starve.


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Let's talk about violation , or let's say : serving the best interests of USA ?

1 Israel Is Illegally Occupying Palestine
Under UN Resolution 242, Israel is required by international law to withdraw from all the territories occupied in 1967, including East Jerusalem. The United Nation's General Assembly has repeatedly condemned Israel's occupation of the territories as illegal (see UN resolutions 338, 1397, and 1402, among others). Israel's continued occupation of Palestine, sanctioned and maintained by the US, is one of the most serious obstructions to a just and lasting peace in the Middle East.


2 Israel Systematically Violates the Human Rights of Palestinians in the Occupied Territories
Each day, Israeli security forces in the West Bank and Gaza violate articles of the 4th Geneva Convention on Human Rights, an agreement that governs wartime rules of engagement and to which Israel is a signatory. Palestinian homes and agriculture fields are routinely demolished to make way for illegal Israeli settlements. Israeli soldiers regularly arrest and detain--often for years-- Palestinians without due process. According to Amnesty International, members of the Israeli security forces regularly use torture and prolonged incommunicado detention against Palestinians.


3 Israel is an Apartheid State
Israel has developed an elaborate system of racial discrimination, embedded in its legal system, rivaling Apartheid South Africa's laws. These laws include the Law of Entry, the Law of Return, the Citizenship Law, the Military Service Law, and a host of legally sanctioned, discriminatory rabbinical rulings. Palestinians are denied various welfare benefits, access to many jobs, and the leasing of homes and land controlled by government bodies. Electricity, sewerage, and roads are provided free to Israeli households, whereas many Palestinian communities in Israel, and especially in the Occupied Territories, have existed for decades without adequate services. Laws governing land ownership such as the Law of Acquisition of Absentee Property and the Law for Acquisition of Land blatantly discriminate against Palestinians. Indeed, land ownership in Palestine is more unjust than it ever wasin South Africa; at the height of apartheid, black people nominally `controlled' 13 percent of the land, whereas in Israel the Palestinians control only 2 percent of the land.


4 US Military Aid to Israel Violates US Law
The US Arms Export Control Act (AECA) strictly forbids the government from giving military assistance to any country that violates internationally recognized human rights. The State Department's 2001 human rights report states: "Israeli security units often used excessive force against Palestinian demonstrators including live fire ... impeded the provision of medical assistance to Palestinian civilians by their strict enforcement of internal closures, which reportedly contributed to at least 32 deaths. Israeli security forces harassed and abused Palestinian pedestrians and drivers who were attempting to pass through the more than 130 Israeli- controlled checkpoints ..." Under the AECA, "the President is required to report to Congress promptly upon the receipt of information that a substantial violation of AECA may have occurred." The US government is fully aware of the Israeli army's human rights violations, as the above quote from the State Department shows. The US government has eroded its own credibility as an impartial mediator by continuing to arm Israel without restriction and allowing these weapons to be used against civilian populations in violation of US law.


5 US Military Aid to Israel threatens US Security and Global Stability
US funding of Israel's human rights abuses fuels resentment towards the US. While the rest of the world strongly condemns Israel’s occupation of the Palestinian Territories, our government provides the political, diplomatic and material means for the occupation to continue. Such actions by the US government provoke anti-US sentiment throughout the world, ultimately jeopardizing the safety of people living in the US. The US can build its own security only by gaining the trust and respect of the international community.

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One can argue over Israel and Palistine ad infinitum, but it all boils down to the most basic simple of facts.

Despite all the wonderful things people around the world are 'supposed' to say in support of the Palestinian cause, NOT ONE OF THEM is prepared to put his mouth where his pocket is.

Whilst money and investment continues to pour into the treasury of the Israelies, Palestine, gets no international monetary support whatsoever. Not one single investor has come forward to invest money in Palestine since the Israeli withdrawal!!

Now, if this continues, and Palestine is unable to support itself, how will they feed the people?
They are already regarded by the International community as yesterdays chip wrapper and unless they realize they are a vanquished and impoverished country and change their attitudes and comply with what is expected of them, they will not have any kind of a future.

They can, of course, continue with their beligerant attitude, but do they really think anyone in the wider world actually cares any more?

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quote:
Originally posted by Mrs. Doubtfire:
Despite all the wonderful things people around the world are 'supposed' to say in support of the Palestinian cause, NOT ONE OF THEM is prepared to put his mouth where his pocket is.

If they did.....

these z*****s will somehow make them terrorist , and say they have links, they are funding them, freeze their account, blah blah blah.....


it only a matter of time...

as i said before,,the only way to deafeat the z*****s...is to uncover them..... so the public knows who they really are.... [Eek!]

I would reccomend you a book, but i think i posted it enough time....i might get bannned for spam....just like how i got a last warning to take of my picture off my profile [Roll Eyes]

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I am stupefied by the ignorance here.
Does anyone really think America gives 'gifts' without strings attached to ANYONE? Pleeeasssseee

I have some lovely Nebraska ocean front property to sell you dears~ [Roll Eyes]

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Noor is correct. Every nation does what it does to further its own interests. The ignorance comes in with prople who want to continue to play right into Isreal's hands by keeping alive a struggle that was lost deacdes ago. The Palestinians have about the same chance of defeating Isreal as I do of marrying Brittany Spears next week.....can we say , zero.

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http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2001/539/fo71.htm

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quote:
Originally posted by Ki$$7eaven:
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2001/539/fo71.htm

interesting.
america reminds me of a drug dealer that gives free drugs to get someone hooked, once they are hooked they charge huge prices to keep the user fixed. these prices are quite high to pay indeed.

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You know, in the end the powers that be in the United states don't care if you folks like our foreign policy or not. At some point there will be a Palestinian state and it will be in the west bank and Gaza.

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and at some point, the powers in are in the united state, wont stay there...

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And how does one propose to get rid of American influence in Palestine? Havent you noticed that everyone wants to drive around in a car, an American invention by Henry Ford. Havent you noticed everyone wants televisions, mobile phones, washing machines, and all the trappings of the West?

Are all Palestinians going to give all this up. What will they have left, apart from the poverty which they started with and homes made of straw and clay, and living in caves? [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Mrs. Doubtfire:

in a car, an American invention by Henry Ford.

why do you bother posting....
only to show ur stupidty [Confused]

please stop posting, wasting precious ES bandwidth and ES server storage space.....have some mercy on sammay and neal....

thank u:)

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