The documentary explores the lives of several Texan families. Muslim and Non Muslim, and their views about Islam and life in the West.
George W Bush may be backed by Christian fundamentalists but in his home state of Texas, Islam is the latest big draw. The Bible belt is transferring its allegiance to the Quran because, for many erstwhile Christians, believe it or not, the church is too liberal.
Eric was a Baptist preacher before he became a Muslim 14 years ago. Now he prays five times a day and even in the middle of watching a football game. His wife, Karen, also a convert, is covered from head to toe in the traditional Muslim burka. Islam, says Eric, is everything I wanted Christianity to be. His mother has found it hard to come to terms with her sons conversion and believes he will return to the Christian faith: Then he will be a dynamic preacher. Eric says: "Maybe some day she will embrace Islam."
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I would LOVE to see a picture of someone in a stupid burka hangin' down in San Antonio. No, actually, I wouldn't.
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Actually, Texas is becoming the larges muslim populated state in te USA. There is a great move to Islam and more and more tradional bible belt christians are moving into Islam. Insha Allah this wave will continue and perhaps bring some Islamic schools to Alabama, so the muslim children will have the same benefit at those in Texas. Houston alone has about 50,000 muslims, and Texas itself about 100,000, about 1/5 of the growing muslim population in the United State
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quote:Originally posted by QueenBee: I would LOVE to see a picture of someone in a stupid burka hangin' down in San Antonio. No, actually, I wouldn't.
there was actually a documentary on texax muslim...
it was really nice, as there was this town, a typical american city, high rise buliding, the massive road and all the rest... and there was this on lady fully covered even with niqaab....walking in the streets...
i dont know what time of the day they filmed it, but there was harldy any people around, and it was amazing how a muslimah was walking in a metropolitain city - a place where u least expect to see them....
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first of all 100,000 muslims in Texas is a drop in the bucket, that is less that 1% of the population. Most Texans have a very negative view of Islam for all of the obvious reasons. It is a number that reflects the number of immigrants that have come in here over the last few decades. Keep in mind also that the real increase in Texas is in Mexican Catholics. We get nearly 400,000 a year in new immigrants from Mexico, either legal or otherwise. Islam has a very limited future in this state.
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: first of all 100,000 muslims in Texas is a drop in the bucket, that is less that 1% of the population. Most Texans have a very negative view of Islam for all of the obvious reasons. It is a number that reflects the number of immigrants that have come in here over the last few decades. Keep in mind also that the real increase in Texas is in Mexican Catholics. We get nearly 400,000 a year in new immigrants from Mexico, either legal or otherwise. Islam has a very limited future in this state.
I know the statitics of Texas as far as the other populations, my post was about the number of Muslims in Texas. Of course I know that the comparison to the total poplulation would make the poplulation about 1%. Your referance to the population as nothing but " a drop in the bucket" only show that you are afraid of the possiblity of you becoming the minority. Yes the growth of Muslims has only been over the past few decades. Muslims of the West are here by choice, not force, unlike some of the other Muslims that were forced over here in bondage over 400 years ago, and stripped of of our Isalm.
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Well, some of what you said is interesting, some a little silly. For us to become a minority the population here would have to swell to 60 million in Texas and all of the increase would have to be Muslim, that is insane, nobody fears that. The point is that we are becoming much more Mexican Catholic than anything else. There is substantial marriage between the Anglo and Mexican populations here producing tens of thousnmads of mixed people. The future of Texas is a union of anglo and mexican populations here, not Islam. Additionally, If there are more terror attacks here I can assure you the Muslim population with vastly decrease here. You should know after Iraq and Afghanistan that American will not tolerate attacks here in America.
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quote:Originally posted by TheWesternDebt2Islam aka Ki$$ aka K:
quote:Originally posted by QueenBee: I would LOVE to see a picture of someone in a stupid burka hangin' down in San Antonio. No, actually, I wouldn't.
there was actually a documentary on texax muslim...
it was really nice, as there was this town, a typical american city, high rise buliding, the massive road and all the rest... and there was this on lady fully covered even with niqaab....walking in the streets...
i dont know what time of the day they filmed it, but there was harldy any people around, and it was amazing how a muslimah was walking in a metropolitain city - a place where u least expect to see them....
Yes there was a documentary on Texan muslims ages ago on Channel 4, in the UK.
One man said, "Islam is everything I wanted Christianity to be"
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quote:Originally posted by QueenBee: I would LOVE to see a picture of someone in a stupid burka hangin' down in San Antonio. No, actually, I wouldn't.
What do you mean by a "silly" burka? You don't have to wear i yourself but you don't have to call it silly.
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Berka's are very negative because they imply an inferior, controled position for women in the society and the family. America thrives on eductaed, liberated, up front women. Without them our economy would collapse so that said, the Berks's need to go. If you wear that stuff over here people think you are a little 'weird.'
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Berka's are very negative because they imply an inferior, controled position for women in the society and the family. America thrives on eductaed, liberated, up front women. Without them our economy would collapse so that said, the Berks's need to go. If you wear that stuff over here people think you are a little 'weird.'
That's how you've chosen to interpret the significance of the Barka.
Muslim women are the most liberated of women, with the best of rights. Some muslim women are deprived of their God-given rights by chauvinists unfortunately.
America thrives on corruption, deception and their exploitaion of people in developing countries.
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you are full of baloney Malig. America has porvided more income for more people than any country in history. We have poured trillions in oil money into the middle east only to see it sucked up by your dishonest muslim leaders. instead of using it to help their people it ends up in Swiss bank accounts. Nobody has helped developing countries more than the United States.
What have you guys produced.... terror?
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You help poor people with money that they helped you earn in the first place, as a result of your exploitative ways.
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Bull Shirt...we buy the damn oil with our money. This kind of ignorance is why you people live in a poverty stricken, flea infested sand pit. Get off your lazy a$$e$ and acomplish something instead of complaining about people who do. If we are exploitive then you must be really stupid and weak or we could not do it. All you do is cause trouble everywhere you go and then wonder why nobody wants you around.
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quote:Originally posted by MaliG182: You help poor people with money that they helped you earn in the first place, as a result of your exploitative ways.
lol...this is a good one and very true, indeed
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its baloney and just an excuse to make up for your own short comings. We do not owe you squat. What did these poor people do to help us earn the money? ...nothing.
from an economic standpoint , once you get past the oil, most middle eastern societies contribute almost nothing to the world except for goofey terrorists.
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quote:Originally posted by QueenBee: I would LOVE to see a picture of someone in a stupid burka hangin' down in San Antonio. No, actually, I wouldn't.
What do you mean by a "silly" burka? You don't have to wear i yourself but you don't have to call it silly.
I didn't say silly, I said stupid. Have you ever worn one? A photojournalist friend of mine came back from Afgani with a few and we went for a walk. People might call the burka humiliating, whatever, I think jeans that show your thong are humiliating, too. The point is, the burka is an extremely stupid garment. It is dangerously limiting to mobility, aiding its fans' self-fulfilling prophecy of helplessness. Why don't you just put a woman in a burlap sack and drag her down the street? It would be basically the same "garment".
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Also Mali, Personally, I apologize if you are wearing the burka and take offense. However, if you are NOT wearing one I recommend you do, for a full day.
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It has had a negative image Gulfy, but nothing even close to what it has today. It has always been a disfunctional culture. Never was a problem until they had a population explosion starting after WW II. The problem with the culture is a stong religious arrogance without any real power to back it up.
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what do you think of what Clinton said about the cartoons, that anti-semitism in the west is being replaced by anti-islamic prejudice.
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Well, I think for every action there is a reaction. I do agree that there is much anti Islamic prejudice. Every time a car bomb goes off or a suicide bomber strikes it reinforces that negative image. Muslim mothers should be trying to get their sons and daughters in business school, not have them running around poverty stricken neighborhoods in Berkas and ski masks.
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Do you have that quote, Gulfy? I'd be interested in seeing it....
I find it fascinating to see how different Europe and the US are on this matter.
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here is your Clinton quote: "these totally outrageous cartoons against Islam"...."So now what are we going to do? ... Replace the anti-Semitic prejudice with anti-Islamic prejudice?"
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"It has always been a disfunctional culture. Never was a problem until they had a population explosion starting after WW II"
some people would argue that the middle east is just like any other underdeveloped region, with the typical political, cultural, and economical problems, but with one major difference. The creation of israel after wwii have radicalizing the whole region, driving a great deal of the violence we have been witnessing since then!!
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here is your Clinton quote: "these totally outrageous cartoons against Islam"...."So now what are we going to do? ... Replace the anti-Semitic prejudice with anti-Islamic prejudice?"
Thanks, Gulfy. Posts: 8794 | From: 01-20-09 The End of an Error | Registered: Dec 2004
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quote:Originally posted by QueenBee: Also Mali, Personally, I apologize if you are wearing the burka and take offense. However, if you are NOT wearing one I recommend you do, for a full day.
I don't wear the burka, and I can't see myself ever wearing one. However, I have a lot of respect for women who wear it. Many muslim women wear it because they feel that it's a religious obligation. Mashaallah, they do it for Allah.
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Horemheb you might try traveling up to North Texas sometime, the communities there are large and thriving~
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I was thinking the same thing. I lived in Texas about 25 years ago when I was a young child. I have been thinking about moving back there now. There are no muslim schools where I am at,and no muslim communities. I now know how important it is that my children countinue to learn Islam while they are young. Maryland, where I am from orginally, has a small but thriving muslim community. Unfortunalty, I did not become a muslim until after I left Maryland, last year. Since Texas has a stonger Muslim community, I will probably end up there.
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The documentary explores the lives of several Texan families. Muslim and Non Muslim, and their views about Islam and life in the West.
George W Bush may be backed by Christian fundamentalists but in his home state of Texas, Islam is the latest big draw. The Bible belt is transferring its allegiance to the Quran because, for many erstwhile Christians, believe it or not, the church is too liberal.
Eric was a Baptist preacher before he became a Muslim 14 years ago. Now he prays five times a day and even in the middle of watching a football game. His wife, Karen, also a convert, is covered from head to toe in the traditional Muslim burka. Islam, says Eric, is everything I wanted Christianity to be. His mother has found it hard to come to terms with her sons conversion and believes he will return to the Christian faith: Then he will be a dynamic preacher. Eric says: "Maybe some day she will embrace Islam."
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Noor, There are many groups of people in Texas out of our nearly 30 million population. Most immigrant groups eventually get sucked into the larger culture after a generation or two. It will not be possible to maintain an Islam anything like you have in the middle east here in the states. For one thing the legal system and cultural practice will not allow many of the traditions to thrive here that exist in other non western nations. Generally young people have a tendacy to want to joing to primary culture and be accepted.
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Noor, There are many groups of people in Texas out of our nearly 30 million population. Most immigrant groups eventually get sucked into the larger culture after a generation or two. It will not be possible to maintain an Islam anything like you have in the middle east here in the states. For one thing the legal system and cultural practice will not allow many of the traditions to thrive here that exist in other non western nations. Generally young people have a tendacy to want to joing to primary culture and be accepted.
I have to agree
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I know the statitics of Texas as far as the other populations, my post was about the number of Muslims in Texas. Of course I know that the comparison to the total poplulation would make the poplulation about 1%. Your referance to the population as nothing but " a drop in the bucket" only show that you are afraid of the possiblity of you becoming the minority. Yes the growth of Muslims has only been over the past few decades. Muslims of the West are here by choice, not force, unlike some of the other Muslims that were forced over here in bondage over 400 years ago, and stripped of of our Isalm.
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