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Britain's very existence today is threatened by immigration. As a nation we must rebuild trust in the immigration system amongst the British electorate whilst simultaneously ensuring that National Security is maintained in this era of global terrorism.
We are proud of the fact that at a time when several other political parties and many sections of the media are finally awakening to this issue we alone of all the political parties have a decades-long record of pointing it out. If even Tony Blair can say that it is "neither racist nor extremist" to raise "genuine concerns" about the flood of asylum seekers, then it is no longer feasible to pretend that this crisis does not exist. All those persons and organisations who have endured years of abuse for telling the truth are owed a serious apology by their critics.
To take just one example, it is a hard fact that, according to official figures, 15% of the UK's male prison population is black, despite black people accounting for only 2% of the total population. Victim-reported figures concerning the race of criminals give the lie to the leftist argument that this is due to discriminatory prosecution. It is an inescapable statistical fact that immigration into Britain increases the crime rate.
Figures for unemployment, welfare dependency, educational failure, and other social pathologies tell a similar story for most other foreign ethnic groups. There is simply no escaping the fact that choosing to admit such persons into the country in significant numbers means choosing to become a poorer, more violent, more dependent and worse-educated society.
Our programme:
1. In any society claiming to be based on the rule of law, it must be beyond serious controversy that all illegal immigrants must be deported as soon as they are discovered. We will increase the funding and political will behind such operations by the police and the courts.
The present regime propagates the myth that such deportation could only be accomplished by authoritarian police tactics, alien to British values. This is obviously false, as even under the present unacceptably lax deportation policies, tens of thousands of people are deported from the UK annually without incident.
2. Every nation, no matter how open or closed its immigration policy may be, has the right and duty to maintain sovereign physical control of its borders. We will begin by increasing the funding of existing border controls by 500% and shall continue to increase budget and personnel until our borders are secure against significant intrusion. In particular, the first company of British troops to be withdrawn from Iraq on the day a BNP government assumes office would be redeployed to secure the Channel Tunnel and Kent ports against illegal immigration.
The regime propagates the myth that Britain cannot, in the face of modern international travel and trade, secure its borders at reasonable cost and convenience. This is also obviously untrue, as the border control example of other advanced nations (the most relevant being that other great island state, Japan) proves.
3. Under present circumstances we would abide by our obligations under the 1951 United Nations Convention on Refugees. We recognise the existence of legitimate international refugees from persecution and war, but point to the fact that international law provides that such persons must be given – and must seek – refuge in the nearest safe country. So, unless a flood of refugees from a civil war in France or Denmark shows up on our shores, these refugees are simply not Britain's responsibility and have no right to refuge here.
This is not a position of callousness: it is a principled stand that all the problems of the world are neither Britain's fault nor our responsibility – or even in our capacity - to solve. In order to further the proper handling of refugees in the appropriate place (not in the advanced Western societies to which they gravitate out of economic self-interest) we will be prepared to contribute funds to refugee relief programmes which respect these principles.
4. We will reform the laws and law enforcement of the UK so that, with respect to refugees and illegal immigrants, there are no blind eyes turned to violations, no amnesties to reward law-breaking, and no extensive appeals against legal decisions. We will place the burden of proof upon the claimant to prove his or her legitimate presence in this country. We will require persons whose cases are pending to be held in refugee centres, not at large in the community.
5. We will impose a permanent lifetime ban on re-entry into Britain for any reason on any person found guilty of having violated British entry or immigration laws, enforced by instant deportation.
Our Agenda for Change
On current demographic trends we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years. By 2020, an extra 5-7 million immigrants will have entered Britain, whilst immigrant communities already resident here are having more children than the indigenous British people. The estimates for the numbers of illegal immigrants resident in the country vary from 250,000 to over a million.
To ensure that we do not become a minority in our own homeland, and that the native British peoples of our islands retain their culture and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of all bogus asylum seekers, all criminal entrants and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants and their descendants who are legally here are afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question.
We will abolish the 'positive discrimination' schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of 'asylum seekers', the vast majority of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries. Britain is full up and the government of Britain has as its first responsibility the welfare, security and long-term preservation of the native people of Britain.
One of the most important rights that any nation possesses is the right to decide who shall enjoy citizenship and residence within its national borders. In a time of global terrorism, asymmetric warfare and open trade borders, the issue of illegal immigration must be considered as an aspect of National Security and not just an issue of social policy.
The liberal consensus on immigration must be balanced by the interests of National Security. Recent arrests of cells of Islamic terrorists living in the country plotting mass murder in Britain illustrate the link between illegal immigration and terrorism. The link between illegal immigration and crime in our communities – including the ruthless exploitation of the immigrants themselves - is also well documented.
We are the only political party that is pledged to take action on illegal immigration. We do not dodge the issue by using vacuous sound bites and shallow headlines, as the old parties do with their ‘promises to do something' but intentions of doing next to nothing. We will do what it is required and we have firm plans as regards our policy on ending illegal immigration immediately, and reversing the tide of immigration in the longer term:
1) Our first step will be to shut the door. A BNP government would accept no further immigration from any of the parts of the world which present the prospect of an almost limitless flow of immigration: Africa, Asia, China, Eastern and South Eastern Europe, the Middle East and South America would all be placed on an immediate ‘stop' list. This would later be subject to review in the case of genuine students accepted for training as part of our long-term policy of helping to build up Third World economies in order to facilitate the voluntary return of their nationals or their descendants under our long-tern resettlement programme.
2) Inform the general public of a BNP government's immigration policy. This Primary Information Phase will consist of a full year of information and education publicity campaigns to explain to all sections of the British public exactly what the policy is going to be, and why it is needed. These high-profile information campaigns will be community-based and will use the languages of all the ethnic communities resident in the country, as well as English. This will also create the time to prepare the necessary state structures and resources that will be used to actively enact the policy once it is in operation.
The intention of the BNP Immigration Policy is to remove all illegal immigrants present within the United Kingdom in an orderly, lawful and humane manner through a planned Two Phase procedure. The First Phase will be dealt with by the Civil Courts and regarded as a civil matter, whilst the Second Phase will be dealt with by the Criminal Courts and regarded as a matter of National Security.
The First Phase: Voluntary Registration
Those illegal immigrants who truthfully declare their illegal status to the authorities during the registration period will be able to claim, in the case of skilled and key workers, extended leave to remain in the United Kingdom as long as they are benefiting the UK economy and stay as residents until such time as we have had time to train British personnel to replace them.
During this period we would also strive to provide these regularized illegal key workers with extra training intended to increase their value to their home countries on their return.
All other illegal immigrants, including visa over-stayers, casual workers and ex-students will have one year to register their presence and assets they wish to liquidate and take with them. Upon registration they will become entitled to free flights home, and time before they leave to put their affairs here in order, including selling property and other legally acquired assets so as to be able to take the full value of their property (less any unpaid taxes and medical bills) with them when they and their families return home. This voluntary registration policy will last for a year. There will be no extensions.
Voluntary Registration cases will be dealt with by the Home Office through the Civil Courts in the event of any disputes arising over asset liquidation.
The Second Phase: Assisted Registration
Those illegal immigrants resident in the UK who fail to register with the authorities and declare their illegal status when the First Phase of the policy ends, will be dealt with solely by the Ministry for National Border Security and the Criminal Courts.
Registration will be an issue of National Security as regards those who, for whatever reason, do not declare their illegal entrant status to the authorities before the First Phase deadline expires. Those assisting illegal immigrants to stay in the UK will also be dealt with under the criminal law. Those who have failed to declare their illegal status will be immediately arrested and held in police custody until they are deported. Those illegal immigrants arrested with children born in the UK will be able to apply to be tagged in their own homes until a hearing in court as to the citizenship status of the children. No appeals on decisions of the Courts on matters of national security will be allowed.
The lack of registration status also involves the withdrawal of access to all civil legal remedies and procedures available to those with Registered Status and also withdrawal of the right to use State welfare provisions and institutions. All persons resident in UK territory from the expiry date of the First Phase who cannot provide a legitimate and verified National Insurance number on demand and provide full citizenship status or registered status documentation will be liable for immediate arrest and to be held in custody until proof of citizenship is proved.
Those who have been arrested will not be allowed to remove any assets from the country when they are deported.
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quote:Originally posted by Charm El Feikh?: please read this and list or highlight the parts that you find racist...
Britain's very existence today is threatened by immigration. As a nation we must rebuild trust in the immigration system amongst the British electorate whilst simultaneously ensuring that National Security is maintained in this era of global terrorism.
We are proud of the fact that at a time when several other political parties and many sections of the media are finally awakening to this issue we alone of all the political parties have a decades-long record of pointing it out. If even Tony Blair can say that it is "neither racist nor extremist" to raise "genuine concerns" about the flood of asylum seekers, then it is no longer feasible to pretend that this crisis does not exist. All those persons and organisations who have endured years of abuse for telling the truth are owed a serious apology by their critics.
To take just one example, it is a hard fact that, according to official figures, 15% of the UK's male prison population is black, despite black people accounting for only 2% of the total population. Victim-reported figures concerning the race of criminals give the lie to the leftist argument that this is due to discriminatory prosecution. It is an inescapable statistical fact that immigration into Britain increases the crime rate.
Figures for unemployment, welfare dependency, educational failure, and other social pathologies tell a similar story for most other foreign ethnic groups. There is simply no escaping the fact that choosing to admit such persons into the country in significant numbers means choosing to become a poorer, more violent, more dependent and worse-educated society.
Our programme:
1. In any society claiming to be based on the rule of law, it must be beyond serious controversy that all illegal immigrants must be deported as soon as they are discovered. We will increase the funding and political will behind such operations by the police and the courts.
The present regime propagates the myth that such deportation could only be accomplished by authoritarian police tactics, alien to British values. This is obviously false, as even under the present unacceptably lax deportation policies, tens of thousands of people are deported from the UK annually without incident.
2. Every nation, no matter how open or closed its immigration policy may be, has the right and duty to maintain sovereign physical control of its borders. We will begin by increasing the funding of existing border controls by 500% and shall continue to increase budget and personnel until our borders are secure against significant intrusion. In particular, the first company of British troops to be withdrawn from Iraq on the day a BNP government assumes office would be redeployed to secure the Channel Tunnel and Kent ports against illegal immigration.
The regime propagates the myth that Britain cannot, in the face of modern international travel and trade, secure its borders at reasonable cost and convenience. This is also obviously untrue, as the border control example of other advanced nations (the most relevant being that other great island state, Japan) proves.
3. Under present circumstances we would abide by our obligations under the 1951 United Nations Convention on Refugees. We recognise the existence of legitimate international refugees from persecution and war, but point to the fact that international law provides that such persons must be given – and must seek – refuge in the nearest safe country. So, unless a flood of refugees from a civil war in France or Denmark shows up on our shores, these refugees are simply not Britain's responsibility and have no right to refuge here.
This is not a position of callousness: it is a principled stand that all the problems of the world are neither Britain's fault nor our responsibility – or even in our capacity - to solve. In order to further the proper handling of refugees in the appropriate place (not in the advanced Western societies to which they gravitate out of economic self-interest) we will be prepared to contribute funds to refugee relief programmes which respect these principles.
4. We will reform the laws and law enforcement of the UK so that, with respect to refugees and illegal immigrants, there are no blind eyes turned to violations, no amnesties to reward law-breaking, and no extensive appeals against legal decisions. We will place the burden of proof upon the claimant to prove his or her legitimate presence in this country. We will require persons whose cases are pending to be held in refugee centres, not at large in the community.
5. We will impose a permanent lifetime ban on re-entry into Britain for any reason on any person found guilty of having violated British entry or immigration laws, enforced by instant deportation.
Our Agenda for Change
On current demographic trends we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years. By 2020, an extra 5-7 million immigrants will have entered Britain, whilst immigrant communities already resident here are having more children than the indigenous British people. The estimates for the numbers of illegal immigrants resident in the country vary from 250,000 to over a million.
To ensure that we do not become a minority in our own homeland, and that the native British peoples of our islands retain their culture and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of all bogus asylum seekers, all criminal entrants and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants and their descendants who are legally here are afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question.
We will abolish the 'positive discrimination' schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of 'asylum seekers', the vast majority of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries. Britain is full up and the government of Britain has as its first responsibility the welfare, security and long-term preservation of the native people of Britain.
One of the most important rights that any nation possesses is the right to decide who shall enjoy citizenship and residence within its national borders. In a time of global terrorism, asymmetric warfare and open trade borders, the issue of illegal immigration must be considered as an aspect of National Security and not just an issue of social policy.
The liberal consensus on immigration must be balanced by the interests of National Security. Recent arrests of cells of Islamic terrorists living in the country plotting mass murder in Britain illustrate the link between illegal immigration and terrorism. The link between illegal immigration and crime in our communities – including the ruthless exploitation of the immigrants themselves - is also well documented.
We are the only political party that is pledged to take action on illegal immigration. We do not dodge the issue by using vacuous sound bites and shallow headlines, as the old parties do with their ‘promises to do something' but intentions of doing next to nothing. We will do what it is required and we have firm plans as regards our policy on ending illegal immigration immediately, and reversing the tide of immigration in the longer term:
1) Our first step will be to shut the door. A BNP government would accept no further immigration from any of the parts of the world which present the prospect of an almost limitless flow of immigration: Africa, Asia, China, Eastern and South Eastern Europe, the Middle East and South America would all be placed on an immediate ‘stop' list. This would later be subject to review in the case of genuine students accepted for training as part of our long-term policy of helping to build up Third World economies in order to facilitate the voluntary return of their nationals or their descendants under our long-tern resettlement programme.
2) Inform the general public of a BNP government's immigration policy. This Primary Information Phase will consist of a full year of information and education publicity campaigns to explain to all sections of the British public exactly what the policy is going to be, and why it is needed. These high-profile information campaigns will be community-based and will use the languages of all the ethnic communities resident in the country, as well as English. This will also create the time to prepare the necessary state structures and resources that will be used to actively enact the policy once it is in operation.
The intention of the BNP Immigration Policy is to remove all illegal immigrants present within the United Kingdom in an orderly, lawful and humane manner through a planned Two Phase procedure. The First Phase will be dealt with by the Civil Courts and regarded as a civil matter, whilst the Second Phase will be dealt with by the Criminal Courts and regarded as a matter of National Security.
The First Phase: Voluntary Registration
Those illegal immigrants who truthfully declare their illegal status to the authorities during the registration period will be able to claim, in the case of skilled and key workers, extended leave to remain in the United Kingdom as long as they are benefiting the UK economy and stay as residents until such time as we have had time to train British personnel to replace them.
During this period we would also strive to provide these regularized illegal key workers with extra training intended to increase their value to their home countries on their return.
All other illegal immigrants, including visa over-stayers, casual workers and ex-students will have one year to register their presence and assets they wish to liquidate and take with them. Upon registration they will become entitled to free flights home, and time before they leave to put their affairs here in order, including selling property and other legally acquired assets so as to be able to take the full value of their property (less any unpaid taxes and medical bills) with them when they and their families return home. This voluntary registration policy will last for a year. There will be no extensions.
Voluntary Registration cases will be dealt with by the Home Office through the Civil Courts in the event of any disputes arising over asset liquidation.
The Second Phase: Assisted Registration
Those illegal immigrants resident in the UK who fail to register with the authorities and declare their illegal status when the First Phase of the policy ends, will be dealt with solely by the Ministry for National Border Security and the Criminal Courts.
Registration will be an issue of National Security as regards those who, for whatever reason, do not declare their illegal entrant status to the authorities before the First Phase deadline expires. Those assisting illegal immigrants to stay in the UK will also be dealt with under the criminal law. Those who have failed to declare their illegal status will be immediately arrested and held in police custody until they are deported. Those illegal immigrants arrested with children born in the UK will be able to apply to be tagged in their own homes until a hearing in court as to the citizenship status of the children. No appeals on decisions of the Courts on matters of national security will be allowed.
The lack of registration status also involves the withdrawal of access to all civil legal remedies and procedures available to those with Registered Status and also withdrawal of the right to use State welfare provisions and institutions. All persons resident in UK territory from the expiry date of the First Phase who cannot provide a legitimate and verified National Insurance number on demand and provide full citizenship status or registered status documentation will be liable for immediate arrest and to be held in custody until proof of citizenship is proved.
Those who have been arrested will not be allowed to remove any assets from the country when they are deported.
You sound more like Horemheb every day!
Those who have been arrested will not be allowed to remove any assets from the country when they are deported.
Wasn't that a policy during the anti-Jewish Pogams and what the Nazis did early on?
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who gives a fukk.. we have a serious problem here.
i wont go into details but weve had the worlds press on our doorstep today, and EVERYONE i have talked to today is talking about it and were all scared...
and more and more people are saying CLOSE THE FUCKING DOOR.
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quote:Originally posted by Charm El Feikh?: who gives a fukk.. we have a serious problem here.
i wont go into details but weve had the worlds press on our doorstep today, and EVERYONE i have talked to today is talking about it and were all scared...
and more and more people are saying CLOSE THE FUCKING DOOR.
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I must be out of touch with the issues in your country, is it really that bad there? I guess change might be coming soon, there's always a big commotion before great change.
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British fascist party gaining supporters, study says By GEORGE CONGER LONDON
One in five English voters are considering supporting the far-right British National Party [BNP], a report released by the University of Essex's Democratic Audit project has found, with support among Londoners for the anti-immigrant party reaching 25 percent.
The report released earlier this week follows statements made by Britain's Employment Minister, Margaret Hodge, that as many as eight in 10 white working-class voters in her East London constituency were tempted to support the BNP in the May 4 local elections.
Long considered a fringe party with roots in the pre-war British Union of Fascists and the extremist National Front of the 1970s, the BNP under its Cambridge-educated leader Nick Griffin has attempted to shed its anti-Semitic fascist image and move into the political mainstream.
In a 12-point party manifesto released on April 14, the BNP adopted a law-and-order platform, calling for a clampdown on asylum seekers, lower taxes, stronger policing and more representative government.
In the 2005 general election the BNP polled over 192,000 voters. While receiving only 0.7% of all votes cast and electing no members to parliament, it garnered 150,000 more votes than in its 2001 showing.
The BNP, which has 24 elected local councillors, reports that it will have 356 candidates stand in next month's local elections. A 5% swing in voter support could give the BNP 70 council seats, the anti-fascist campaign group Searchlight reports.
The Democratic Audit report found that, among their focus groups, support for the BNP arose through a "strong sense of frustrated nationalism and powerlessness and anger with a 'pussy-footing' political class that denies the dangers of immigration and European power and fails to assert the national interest."
The authors of the study warned that there was "significant potential support" for the BNP. "At a time when the main political parties recognize the need for further immigration, and 'Europe' is set to become a defining political issue" the BNP and other fringe parties had "opportunities in abundance to exploit" voter discontent.
In an interview with the Telegraph published on April 16, Hodge stated the support for the BNP came from voter frustration and fear. "They can't get a home for their children, they see black and ethnic minority communities moving in and they are angry," she said.
"When I knock on doors I say to people, 'are you tempted to vote BNP?' and many, many, many - eight out of 10 of the white families - say 'yes.' That's something we have never seen before, in all my years," Hodge noted.
Prof. Peter John of Manchester University told the BBC's Today program that the results of a study he was preparing on behalf of the Joseph Rowntree Memorial Trust supported the conclusion that BNP support arose from discontent with the current political system.
"They think they have been let down by the main parties. They feel their voices have not been heard, the main parties have ignored them," he said.
While the BNP has sought to enter the political mainstream, its leadership has a history of anti-Semitism that worries British Jewish leaders, who tell The Jerusalem Post the move to anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant rhetoric from Jew-bashing is not a change of heart, but a tactical political move.
In 1997 pamphlet entitled "Who are the Mindbenders?" BNP chairman Nick Griffin wrote, "very few people in Britain are aware of the huge influence over the mass media exercised by a certain ethnic minority, namely the Jews".
It was the Jews, Griffin wrote, who had provided Britain "with an endless diet of pro-multiracial, pro-homosexual, anti-British trash." Griffin has also questioned the historical reality of the Holocaust, saying that while "the orthodox opinion is that six-million Jews were gassed and cremated...orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat."
"I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter-day witch hysteria," Griffin claimed.
Speaking on February 24 outside Washington to a gathering of the American far-Right, Griffin noted the change of enemies was a political calculation. "The proper enemy to any political movement isn't necessarily the most evil and the worst," The Nation magazine reported him as saying. "The proper enemy is the one we can most easily defeat."
While the BNP has sought to enter the political mainstream, its leadership has a history of anti-Semitism that worries British Jewish leaders, who tell The Jerusalem Post the move to anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant rhetoric from Jew-bashing is not a change of heart, but a tactical political move.
In 1997 pamphlet entitled "Who are the Mindbenders?" BNP chairman Nick Griffin wrote, "very few people in Britain are aware of the huge influence over the mass media exercised by a certain ethnic minority, namely the Jews".
It was the Jews, Griffin wrote, who had provided Britain "with an endless diet of pro-multiracial, pro-homosexual, anti-British trash." Griffin has also questioned the historical reality of the Holocaust, saying that while "the orthodox opinion is that six-million Jews were gassed and cremated...orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat."
"I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter-day witch hysteria," Griffin claimed.Posts: 407 | Registered: Apr 2006
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Britain's very existence today is threatened by immigration. As a nation we must rebuild trust in the immigration system amongst the British electorate whilst simultaneously ensuring that National Security is maintained in this era of global terrorism
I use to work in the 5 stars hotel in London, as a receptionist, and almost all the cleaner as well as people in the kitchen were working illegally most of them were employed by British it really make me laugh now to see how they are getting racist, as they are using illegal immigrant to do the jobs they don’t want to do, and now they realise that they are too many of them so, they become racist. ,+ they do have a big problem on the security. at the reception at this hotel I was told one day by my manager to not ask the client his passport as it was " rude" and that I should let him fill out his registration card. He could have written a wrong passport number nobody would have never noticed anything, I also worked on the Eurostar train which is the train that travels between France and UK. When the British police were checking passengers, sometimes they didn't check on those who were travelling in first class as some of them were important people and it was considering being "rude" to disturb them. On the train Belgium police even found one day some number of the staff who were based in UK working on board with expired visa How come they were never checked their visa when they had their job interview? And I know many places in London where people work there illegally. A lot of people who come to UK without permit can easily find a job without any problems at all. Once you are in the country nobody check your ID card or your passport, at work, or in the street, so is not surprising to see how many illegal people who want to come and work in the UK.
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quote:Originally posted by massenburg: Isn't this racist;
While the BNP has sought to enter the political mainstream, its leadership has a history of anti-Semitism that worries British Jewish leaders, who tell The Jerusalem Post the move to anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant rhetoric from Jew-bashing is not a change of heart, but a tactical political move.
In 1997 pamphlet entitled "Who are the Mindbenders?" BNP chairman Nick Griffin wrote, "very few people in Britain are aware of the huge influence over the mass media exercised by a certain ethnic minority, namely the Jews".
It was the Jews, Griffin wrote, who had provided Britain "with an endless diet of pro-multiracial, pro-homosexual, anti-British trash." Griffin has also questioned the historical reality of the Holocaust, saying that while "the orthodox opinion is that six-million Jews were gassed and cremated...orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat."
"I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter-day witch hysteria," Griffin claimed.
I lived in a large Jewish community, and the Jews that I've met all say that being a Jew refers to culture and religion. It has nothing to do with race, so no I wouldn't say that this is racist. However, you can definitely say it's extremely bigoted. Like the views regarding the extermination of the Jews during WWII(which is a well documented FACT) as the propaganda of the Allied forces. The only people that talk like this are Klansmen and Neo Nazis.
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almost every political crisis we have in the world now was started by the british. rwanda, israel/palestine, kashmir, iraq and kuwait, afghanistan etc. it's pay back time
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quote:Originally posted by * 7ayat *: almost every political crisis we have in the world now was started by the british. rwanda, israel/palestine, kashmir, iraq and kuwait, afghanistan etc. it's pay back time
.... And when the Dutch were biting their fingers of sorrow about inventing the Apartheid, the English came and made the sshit thicker.
quote:Originally posted by * 7ayat *: almost every political crisis we have in the world now was started by the british. rwanda, israel/palestine, kashmir, iraq and kuwait, afghanistan etc. it's pay back time
wow... the entire world is a nothing but a playground to you is it.
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so Nepal... Ukraine... Venezuela.... Sierra Leone.. columbia... korea.. erm shall i continue...
or WW1... WW2.. vietnam... philippians...
all britain yea?
oh.. it still is is it?.... like the middle east now?
and the "pay back" is 100 of thousands of scum flooding our shores...
no problem... makes people like me move to places like egypt...
where there will soon be soooo many of us there that we will soon be the majority... and your laws and customs and religions will change... and we will take over... yippeeeee.... london with sun... yeah!!!!
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it was kina useless the other thread was much more interesting
the best post here gotta be:
quote:Originally posted by * 7ayat *: almost every political crisis we have in the world now was started by the british. rwanda, israel/palestine, kashmir, iraq and kuwait, afghanistan etc. it's pay back time
and how true.... and i didnt even think of that...
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quote:Originally posted by TheWesternDebt2Islaam: it was kina useless the other thread was much more interesting
ah.. i knew it... you only wanted to call me racist names on the other thread... this one (which shows there is no racism on my part) is of no use to you.
poor.
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May 15, 2006 UK should not 'go it alone' over opening Labour market to Romania and Bulgaria
The arrival of very large numbers of Romanian and Bulgarian workers in the UK is a distinct possibility if the Government is one of a handful of EU states to ‘go it alone’ and again allows unrestricted access to the UK labour market to these countries when they join the EU as expected next January, says a new report out today. Read report.
Using the same methodology that the Department of Work and Pensions applied in assessing the relationship between the level of GDP per head in the new EU member states and the propensity to enter the UK labour market, think tank Migrationwatch has estimated that the numbers coming to the UK from these two countries could be 300,000 or more in the first 20 months. This should not be taken as a prediction, rather as an indication that the numbers could be very considerable.
‘These two countries will add another 30 million to the population of the EU. If the UK is again the only major EU country not to impose a transitional arrangement, further substantial immigration is to be expected,’ said Sir Andrew Green, Migrationwatch chairman. ‘The public realise that we cannot absorb unlimited immigration on a small crowded island. That is why 76% of us wish to see an annual limit to immigration. It is, therefore, essential that the Government wait for the decisions of the other major European countries before committing themselves.’
Sir Andrew said that the Migrationwatch estimate was based on the Government’s own methodology and is supported by the independent calculations of UCL Statistics Professor, Mervyn Stone.
‘We have to remember that, when the last batch of countries joined the EU two years ago, the government estimated that net migration to the UK would be between 5 and 13,000. Yet, in the period May 2004 - December 2005, there were no less than 345,000 applicants to the Worker Registration Scheme which applies to workers from the new member states. These figures do not include self-employed workers. Even allowing for a significant proportion returning home, the net migration will be many times the government estimate.
Sir Andrew said that in Romania and Bulgaria GDP per head, at $7,700 and $8,200 respectively, was less than a third of that in the UK which was $29,600. Unemployment was also higher – at 7% and 12% – compared to 5.1% in the UK. The recent IPPR estimate of 56,000 new migrants in the first year took no account of this greater poverty despite the evidence that it is a major driver.
‘These amount to strong ‘pull factors’. It is not the role of the UK to shoulder alone the full weight of a potentially very large influx.'
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but i guess westie, your not interested in this as its not white supremacist, and is actually talking about a real problem.
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Racist: To ensure that we do not become a minority in our own homeland, and that the native British peoples of our islands retain their culture and identity,........ and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants and their descendants who are legally here are afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question
To me thats the racist bit. So the empire wants to pay the coolies to go away now is it? Why not the aboriginals in australia pay us convict descendents to get the hell back to britain/scotland/wales? With a generous financial incentives for individual and the country in question. Or is our nearest country New Zealand for refuge? Maybe papua new guinea! LOL.
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laugh out as loud as you want... australia needs to deal with its own problems in its own ways.
i know at least two people who would jump at the chance to 'go home' if they had the financial aid to do so. its voluntary. how is it racist?
a few years ago there was talk of a scheme where we could offer pensioners the chance to give up there 3 bed council house in exchange for a flat in benidorm... the benefits they receive would go twice as far there, and there was a huge ex pat community. its a great idea. its not like spain would suffer an immigration problem.... it would benefit.
why are you so hell bent on proving this to be racist when it clearly isnt.
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so if you move to egypt and your kids are told to go home they dont belong how will you deal with that? would you live amongst other british only there? would that be a gated community or a moneyed ghetto? No matter what people say about simplistic immigration policies at the end of it all its money thats the bottom line.For businesses using illegals, for real estate selling to expats etc etc.
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of course it is! melati, you are using comparisons that have no meaning.
no one is being "told to go home"! we are now one of the most densely populated country in the world... this has happened in the last 10 years... in another 10 years what will happen?... and 10 years after that? and that? and that? do you at least agree that AT SOME POINT we will start being bumped into the sea as we jostle for space on the cliffs!
AT SOME POINT, we will have to stop people coming here.
WHEN? no really... im asking you that question, please think about it and try to give me a year... and a possible solution as to WHAT we should do... honestly, i dont have all the answers... what do you think... WHEN and WHAT?
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you are in one of the most densley populated country in the world? I think you are ranked 18th. Your birth rates are down and there are more people over 60 than under 16. Jakarta itself has 17 million( give or take a million people)-the same amount as the whole of Australia. You also have a big population in england but not wales and scotland - so which is the bnp for-the whole area or only england? No I dont know what to say regarding your question about giving you a year etc. Dunno. I just really believe that pertys like the bnp are not really as socially minded as their press releases claim-I think that its still about lining their own pockets.And I believe they use specially crafted statements that make you think they are reasonable and logical but they are actually not if you look further into it.
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our birth rates are probably down as its harder for our kids to leave home and have their own families, if they do its a small flat/tiny house AND they have to support the kids they do have for much longer too.
i dont know what were 'ranked' but the point is how fast we are moving up that ranking!
the point with the BNP is they are answering the public who are currently being ignored, the people are voting BNP to be heard. the leading parties will have to take note if they want to stay in/gain power.
even if the BNP really did gain power (which is unlikely) the immigration problem would be solved (at least partially) and by the next election the main stream party that had a good policy on immigration would be voted in.
(god knows how fucked up other stuff would be, but immigration is such a problem that people either dont care or arnt thinking about that right now)
the fact that you cant answer the when/what question doesnt surprise me... the only answer is now/stop... deal with it and re evaluate.
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oh i forgot to answer your question about england/wales.
these countries are mainly green field (a term for places with no housing... where no housing can be built either) so theres very few high rise areas in wales (1 city, its capital, makes up most of it) and scotland is half mountains! england has most cities, most high rise areas, most slums, most industrial areas....
so what you said about density is somewhat deceiving. however... as england is growing in population by a city the size of birmingham every 4.something years we will of course start destroying these beautiful countries too.
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Like the new "logo" Melati, are we all to move to the Highlands of Scotland?? only goats, as for Australia - you know only the Eastern Seaboard is really liveable.
Trouble is Aus just like UK if you speak out, you are a racist.
People should have listened more to Pauline Hansen, you just cannot absorb all the people who want "the good life" at least not at the expense of the "silent majority"
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what logo? Do you mean I am a logo for something specific? Like moving to Scotland? Goats?
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How come they were never checked their visa when they had their job interview? And I know many places in London where people work there illegally. A lot of people who come to UK without permit can easily find a job without any problems at all. Once you are in the country nobody check your ID card or your passport, at work, or in the street, so is not surprising to see how many illegal people who want to come and work in the UK.
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