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Egypt has ordered 24 war aircrafts from Lockheed US. They have to pay 3,2 billion dollars for that. The U.S. and Egyptian governments signed the agreement on Christmas Eve to cement a deal for block 50/52 models.
The Egypt deal follows relatively recent contracts signed by Oman and the United Arab Emirates for new F-16s. The UAE order introduced the Block 60 version. Oman's purchase, meanwhile, ushered in the Harpoon anti-ship missile for carriage by the F-16 fleet.
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Egypt should produce F-16s at home. It seems rather odd considering since license production is being offered to India. There is no value in such procurement since it doesn't create domestic employment.
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Build our own F-16’s. Wow, where do you live? Egyptians have been dependent on foreign assistance for a few hundred years. Can you name another airplane that Egypt builds and can maintain by it self with out foreign assistance and man power? We can’t even build a car from scratch let alone spare parts or a tunnel or bridge under and over the Suez Cannel, The High Dam, Power plaints, Air ports, National Museum and Metros, just to name a few foreign projects that our countrymen boast about. You probably think we built the pyramids by ourselves. Where would we be if it was not for dreamers like you, we probably still be using donkeys as a means of transportation in Cairo.
More important is why dose Egypt even need F-16’s? 3.2 billion dollars for what? Is there an enemy out there we should worry about? What do we have that is so important to another country, except for water and that is not even ours. Libya? Sudan? Israel? Which one poses a threat to our National Interest? You would think that we could put that money to a better cause. Maybe help our poor countrymen out or build one or two real schools?
We Egyptians are our worst enemies! Chocking ourselves to death because of a stagnating mind set, religion, corruption, birth control, miss use of natural resources, the most valuable one being the Nile which we have no control over.
Do you know how many people die every day because the lack of water in Africa? Yet our highly educated people everyday pour 5 litters of water that other countries entrust us to manage on cars and streets so they look clean!
Yes’ we are a proud civilization worthy of our own undoing. We should mark it as a National Holiday and celebrate. We can call it Pharos Day. The day we Egyptians acknowledge we gave up on ourselves.
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Build our own F-16’s. Wow, where do you live? Egyptians have been dependent on foreign assistance for a few hundred years. Can you name another airplane that Egypt builds and can maintain by it self with out foreign assistance and man power? We can’t even build a car from scratch let alone spare parts or a tunnel or bridge under and over the Suez Cannel, The High Dam, Power plaints, Air ports, National Museum and Metros, just to name a few foreign projects that our countrymen boast about. You probably think we built the pyramids by ourselves. Where would we be if it was not for dreamers like you, we probably still be using donkeys as a means of transportation in Cairo.
More important is why dose Egypt even need F-16’s? 3.2 billion dollars for what? Is there an enemy out there we should worry about? What do we have that is so important to another country, except for water and that is not even ours. Libya? Sudan? Israel? Which one poses a threat to our National Interest? You would think that we could put that money to a better cause. Maybe help our poor countrymen out or build one or two real schools?
We Egyptians are our worst enemies! Chocking ourselves to death because of a stagnating mind set, religion, corruption, birth control, miss use of natural resources, the most valuable one being the Nile which we have no control over.
Do you know how many people die every day because the lack of water in Africa? Yet our highly educated people everyday pour 5 litters of water that other countries entrust us to manage on cars and streets so they look clean!
Yes’ we are a proud civilization worthy of our own undoing. We should mark it as a National Holiday and celebrate. We can call it Pharos Day. The day we Egyptians acknowledge we gave up on ourselves.
First of all aren't you supposed to be a non-Egyptian?
And how well do you know the areospace industry? Parts for planes get made all over the world, no plane is made 100% on the same soil.
$$$ for R&D also don't come from one source, it might even come from the developing world.
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The USA does not allow Egypt to build military hardware. That was stipulated by the USA at Camp David. It HAS to import it, and in so doing relies on them supplying spare parts too. My guess. The US are about to launch an attack on Iran because their master Israel tells them what to do.Their whipping boy Egypt. Needs to be armed to defend Israel. It's as clear as day unless Americans wakes up and smell the coffee and that is doubtful when you read here typical Americans like Tina who don't even know what the word Zionism means.
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Cairoexpat, I agree. The billions could be used for better purposes. That includes rapidly expanding infrastructure, and creating REAL, i.e. manufacturing jobs. However, Egypt is going to be spending money on defense, and thus there should be an emphasis on having large items such fighter jets manufactured at home.
Babamubarak: Well said. US (not just Israel) never wanted an independently-run Israel.
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Don't know about the details of this particular deal, but Egypt has done in the past what seems to now be a global trend; convert a portion of their defense purchases overseas into some job retention in the country:
Purchase from China...
In December 1999, China National Aero-Technology Import & Export Corporation (CATIC) signed a contract with Egypt to co-produce 80 K-8 trainer aircraft under license. These aircraft were to be built in Egypt using Chinese-supplied kits, and were given a new designation K-8E. CATIC was responsible for helping the Egyptian contractor to build the aircraft assembly line as well as providing necessary technical assistance and post-sale services.
The K-8E features 33 modifications in the airframe and avionics from the original K-8. Hongdu redesigned the aircraft using computer-aided design and manufacture (CAD/CAM) technologies. Under the co-production agreement, CATIC also promised to help Egypt build an aircraft R&D centre that would allow eventually lead to independent aircraft design and development.
The first phase of the control involved building of the aircraft assembly line and manufacture of 80 K-8E aircraft, with a unit cost of US$3~3.5 million. The first aircraft rolled out in June 2001. The production of all 80 aircraft were completed in 2005.
In August 2005, CATIC issued the license to allow Egypt to build a further 40 K-8E aircraft in the second phase of the project. These aircraft are thought to feature more Egyptian-made contents. - www.sinodefence.com
Previous purchase from the U.S....
Another visitor to France was Egypt's new defense minister, Gen. Yusuf Sabri Abu Talib. After returning to Egypt, he said on June 14 that Egypt had been granted new approval to manufacture French weapons systems. Egypt already assembles a number of French systems under license. The Egyptian defense minister indicated that extensive discussions had taken place on defense manufacturing, and that France and Egypt were also discussing joint military training.
Shortly before the show began, Egypt and General Dynamics has signed in Cairo the first agreement under new provisions which allow Egypt, as a "major non-NATO ally," to supply defense equipment to the US.
General Dynamics and the Arab Organization for Industrialization (AOI) signed an agreement under which AOI will provide parts for F-16 aircraft to be built in the United States. Spokesmen for both the Egyptian government and General Dynamics continue to deny a report which appeared in the Washington Post claiming that Egypt plans to cancel its plans to build the General Dynamics M-1 Abrams tank in Egypt. - Dr. Michael Collins Dunn, senior analyst of The International Estimate, Inc., Middle East editor of the biweekly newsletter The Estimate.
Don't know if it still does, but the AOI had licences to manufacture sub-components of the F-16, like for example, radar doors and fuel tanks, along with complete assembly of and sub-component manufacture of French Dassault Alpha jets, Mirage 2000 sub-components, Brazilian Tucano, and Dassault Falcon jets. At one point in the 60s, with overseas assistance of course, Egypt attempted to jump-start an indigenous defense industry program, with the HA-300 aircraft along with its E-300 turbojet. The latter engine was to be also used in a locally developed tri-jet airliner presented as a small scale model in a 1968 Italian air show, but none of which saw development into production phase due to diversion of funds elsewhere, with geopolitical issues on the horizon - culminating in the "Six Day" war with Israel [in which the Egyptian government reportedly implicated U.S. military backing].
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^ AOI had a partnership with Lockheed Martin? I thought that never occurred even though now many of the components produced by LH actually are sourced from over-the-counter sources.
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