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Quick get on national television and condemn it and the French regime!
You've got to love Ahmedinejad.
Iran deplores French crackdown on protesters
Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:16:39 GMT Font size : [Increase] [Normal] [Decrease] Iran's Foreign Ministry has lashed out at France over resorting to violence in dealing with protesters in the country, describing it as violation of human rights.
Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehman-Parast deplored the Sarkozy government's arrest of nearly 400 people across France on New Year's Eve.
Mehman-Parast called on Paris to identify the source of unrest in the country. "Instead of attacking people, the French government should identify the origins of the recent unrest."
"By torching more than 1137 cars in different cities, the French people clearly want to show their dissatisfaction with economic inequality and social dysfunction in their country."
French Interior Minister Brice Hortefeux said in a statement that 405 arrests were made across the country, a figure that has doubled compared to last year.
The French Interior Ministry had reportedly mobilized around 45,000 police officers during the night to confront discontent youth from immigrant-heavy suburbs.
Car burnings occasionally take place in France, but the number traditionally soars on New Year's Eve.
This year, more than 70 cars had been reportedly set aflame only in the eastern city of Strasbourg. Meanwhile, police in the Hauts-de-Seine district near Paris reported 32 cases of arson.
Riots and car-burnings that echo the events of 1789 are of regular occurrence during the past few years.
Unhappy youths living primarily in France's run-down ghettos use special days in the country to vent their anger at the discriminating policies against ethnic minorities and the high unemployment rate.
Even the enactment of a law that sets possible prison sentences of up to three years and maximum fines of $63,000 for people convicted of arson while demonstrating has failed to deter the protests.
Such violent protests flared-up in France for the first time in October and November 2005, when angry youths burned some 9,000 vehicles, following the deaths of two teenagers, who were chased by the police in a Paris suburb.
On a different note, Mehman-Parast said the death of more than 353 French transients in the year 2009 has become "the undoing of a European country that boasts of equality and democracy."
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You truely think what Ahmedinejad is doing to his own people is funny and okay?????
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I was making the point that Obama has double standards when dealing with different countries.
He made a special point of mentioning Iran in his bomber speech. Why he doesn't apply the same rule to France? Why not come on TV and deplore how the French riot police treat the French citizens if he is so worried about human rights!
Ahmedinejad was just pointing out Obama's hypocrisy.
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quote:Originally posted by Babamubarak: You truly think that what Sarkozy is doing to the French protestors is okay?????
I dont see his (Sarkozy) police force shooting the protesters......... Neither does he try to keep foreign journalists out of the country or limit his peoples access to let the world know what goes on!
You cant compare president Sarkozy with Irans criminal and corrupt leader. That was why Obama didnt mention that. Protests does happen in democratic countries without police shooting the protesters to keep them quite. Thats why its a D-E-M-O-C-R-A-C-Y ....... Posts: 1325 | From: For tooti http://www.csa.gov.uk/ | Registered: May 2009
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Where are the killed frensh protesters???????? Your totally disgracing the pain and the battle of the people of Iran.
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If you think Iran is bad now with no freedom of expression, you didn't live there under the Shah with his Savak Secret Police. Iranians have more freedom to demonstrate, something unthinkable under the Shah. No one was allowed to demonstrate or speak against the US backed regime of the Shah.
Discontent in Iran is caused by years of sanctions because they refuse to bow down to the US. Same scenario in Gaza. No bowing down to US and Israel and electing your own government means no food, freedom, medicine and aid.
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"According to a former CIA analyst on Iran, Jesse J. Leaf, SAVAK was trained in torture techniques by the CIA."
Sources disagree over how many victims SAVAK had and how inhumane its techniques were. Writing at the time of the Shah's overthrow, TIME magazine described SAVAK as having "long been Iran's most hated and feared institution" which had "tortured and murdered thousands of the Shah's opponents."
Federation of American Scientists (FAS) also found it guilty of "the torture and execution of thousands of political prisoners" and symbolizing "the Shah's rule from 1963-79."
The FAS list of SAVAK torture methods included "electric shock, whipping, beating, inserting broken glass and pouring boiling water into the rectum, tying weights to the testicles, and the extraction of teeth and nails."
You can lay some flowers on the old despots grave next time you are in Cairo Posts: 111 | From: Masr | Registered: Dec 2009
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That's good. Tibe at home maybe now realises it is all propaganda now. Maybe she will speak out and condemn the beating up of volunteers in Arish instead.
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No i just desided that it would be time wasted trying to debate with you since you only posting brainwashed islamic fanatic propaganda .... Posts: 1325 | From: For tooti http://www.csa.gov.uk/ | Registered: May 2009
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He made a special point of mentioning Iran in his bomber speech. Why he doesn't apply the same rule to France? Why not come on TV and deplore how the French riot police treat the French citizens if he is so worried about human rights!
" On Friday, security forces used water canons and truncheons against unarmed refugees. During the parliamentary elections, they used tear gas and rifles against unarmed voters.
A country that does not hesitate to unleash thugs against its own will not think twice before it does the same to refugees. That is of little comfort of course to the Sudanese parents whose children were killed or to those who lost loved ones in the violence on Friday but surely it was obvious to the United Nations refugee agency which left the Sudanese at the mercy of the security forces. The newspaper carried a huge photograph showing two Sudanese refugees on a bus after they were arrested by Egyptian police. One of them was screaming in pain as a policeman grabbed his arm. The other man was desperately trying to hand his baby through the window to a policeman outside of the bus. "
What about you Baba, why dont you apply the same rule to your own country?
quote:Originally posted by *Souri*: He made a special point of mentioning Iran in his bomber speech. Why he doesn't apply the same rule to France? Why not come on TV and deplore how the French riot police treat the French citizens if he is so worried about human rights!
" On Friday, security forces used water canons and truncheons against unarmed refugees. During the parliamentary elections, they used tear gas and rifles against unarmed voters.
A country that does not hesitate to unleash thugs against its own will not think twice before it does the same to refugees. That is of little comfort of course to the Sudanese parents whose children were killed or to those who lost loved ones in the violence on Friday but surely it was obvious to the United Nations refugee agency which left the Sudanese at the mercy of the security forces. The newspaper carried a huge photograph showing two Sudanese refugees on a bus after they were arrested by Egyptian police. One of them was screaming in pain as a policeman grabbed his arm. The other man was desperately trying to hand his baby through the window to a policeman outside of the bus. "
What about you Baba, why dont you apply the same rule to your own country?
Souri - baba will clearly call it propaganda - "nothing wrong with the middle east". Its only the big bad wolwes in the west. Baba should be glad on behalf of the iranian people. That someone sees, hears and mention their pain and fights for democracy. Viva freedom and democracy for everyone!!!!!!!
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Listen you don't have to go back four years to make a point. Just look how the Egyptian government treated national and international protesters for the last two weeks in Cairo and Al-Arish.
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Democracy in Egypt is not realistic. You cannot have democracy without a strong middle clsss. The Mubarak government is about the best that could be hoped for.
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quote:Originally posted by Babamubarak: If you think Iran is bad now with no freedom of expression, you didn't live there under the Shah with his Savak Secret Police. Iranians have more freedom to demonstrate, something unthinkable under the Shah. No one was allowed to demonstrate or speak against the US backed regime of the Shah.
Discontent in Iran is caused by years of sanctions because they refuse to bow down to the US. Same scenario in Gaza. No bowing down to US and Israel and electing your own government means no food, freedom, medicine and aid.
Well said. Iran is a lot more better now than under the Shah. It isn't ideal, but we didn't see the West criticize that brutal regime. The current regime has provided a lot more to the nation's social wellbeing than the previous regime. However the prostitution issue (especially amongst educated women) is downright ridiculous.
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: Democracy in Egypt is not realistic. You cannot have democracy without a strong middle clsss. The Mubarak government is about the best that could be hoped for.
How about India? The nation had for a while a much higher vote turn out rate than the United States. I'd argue democracy is more vibrant in that state (just look at how diverse their media and political sphere) is. Poor democratic prospects in Egypt have a lot to do with their neighbor and the West itself.
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India is the exception that proves the rule. In every other case the lack of an educated middle class dooms democratic government. Poor uneducated people are easy to control. The elite leadership simply controls the system resulting in one party rule. Keep in mind also that no radicsal government would be allowed to control the canal in Egypt. You have issues here that touch on the interests of many nations.
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