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Oh please gramps, the econ is more fuked up and he's just doing more of the same (pandering to war mongering elites) which only translates into more suffering for working people. Now he has a war all of his own, siding with Islamists, the very group he uses as an excuse to justify occupation of two countries and spending of billions of $$$ each month! Can you even begin to make sense of that?!
quote:You should recall I told you about a year or so ago the revisionists figures from the middle 70s and that was enough to make me pause. Why did you forget this? Other than the inflated figures a holocaust of some kind did happen.
Figures, gas chambers, annihilation order all fairytales. I guess you still believe. I was wrong. Posts: 4254 | From: dasein | Registered: Jun 2009
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''The problem is the lack of political understanding from the 90% of blacks who voted from Obama. They fail to understand that this is a political process and cast their vote for the candidate that will best represent them. They fail to understand that Obama is not only a politician, but a lawyer.''
Well I wouldn't say 90% of the blacks don't have the political understanding. That statement seems to me a brushoff of the common black person. I'm not prepared to say that. But I'm certain they understand the jokes about lawyers and politicians so they simply cast that aside during election time.
''For many blacks the hope of a black President superseded their common sense, because if the first black President is impotent and ineffective, it greatly harms the future for having a second black President.''
Well if those Blacks suspended their common sense then they placed themselves in the category of unrealistic expectations. I'm sure for some that did in fact happen. But I do think that will be a tiny percentage.
''Therefore, voters cannot assume that their candidate will actually represent them after elected. Voters must meet with their prospective candidate Pre-election to firmly relay the message to the candidate outlining and detailing their Post election expectations they expect in exchange for their vote.''
The vast majority of voters can't possibly interact on a personal level with their candidate. It's logistically impossible. The only way a voter can be assured a candidate will represent them pre election is based solely on trust nothing else. What the candidate does post election has nothing to do with the voter. They voted him in office--on trust, their trust. Is it possible some actually thought Obama was a messiah of some sort. Maybe, maybe not.
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''Oh please gramps, the econ is more fuked up and he's just doing more of the same (pandering to war mongering elites) which only translates into more suffering for working people. Now he has a war all of his own, siding with Islamists, the very group he uses as an excuse to justify occupation of two countries and spending of billions of $$$ each month! Can you even begin to make sense of that?!''
No I can't... and won't try either. He ought to man up and say to the generals and politicians eff Iraq and Afghanistan. Considering the news reports on the corruption in both those places, especially Afghanistan I would leave that country to those bearded m....fukas.
Can you be more specifc in your understanding of him ''siding with Islamists?'' I'm sure you didn't think at the very outset of Libya's troubles that Islamists to some degree wouldn't be represented in this mess?
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quote:Originally posted by Grumman: Well if those Blacks suspended their common sense then they placed themselves in the category of unrealistic expectations. I'm sure for some that did in fact happen. But I do think that will be a tiny percentage.
Seeing that blacks, as a voting bloc, asked for nothing for their vote, and as a direct result, received nothing for their vote, that is sufficient evidence that the 90% who cast their votes for Obama held absolutely zero expectations.
That a voting bloc would cast their vote at a 90% rate only confirms my first assessment that the majority of blacks fail miserably in understanding the electoral process of give and take. Else, why would any sane person/group give a lawyer/politician something for nothing.
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Actually gramps, its not that hard to figure out if you really think about it. The wars in Afghan and Iraq were never about Islamism, just as WW2 wasnt about Hitler. You and your kind always get suckered into official propaganda. Like that white guy that gave up a multimillion dollar contract in football to die for Bush and Co. thinking he was "serving" his country. lol
As for corruption, its not like the US isn't corrupt herself. In fact she needs corrupt bearded MFs to front for her occupation. You still dont get it do you old man? All your life and you still dont know how the game is played. The US has been hooked on corrupt third world MFs ever since Mobutu and before.
quote: Can you be more specifc in your understanding of him ''siding with Islamists?''
Like how? Actual communications and receipts for guns and ammo? lol
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''Actually gramps, its not that hard to figure out if you really think about it. The wars in Afghan and Iraq were never about Islamism''
I say Afghanistan was about revenge, not Islamism. They wouldn't give up Benny boy. What say you?
''just as WW2 wasnt about Hitler.''
Did the Bilderbergers start that war? I'm lost, Help me out.
''You and your kind always get suckered into official propaganda. Like that white guy that gave up a multimillion dollar contract in football to die for Bush and Co. thinking he was "serving" his country. lol''
I agree Tillman appeared to be an idealist. Or maybe he was a closet Arab hater and it had nothing to do with being suckered? Since this could be the case then do you think it at all possible Tillman suckered you into believing he was? Well of course you wouldn't admit to it. Just thought I would mention that oversight to you.
''As for corruption, its not like the US isn't corrupt herself. In fact she needs corrupt bearded MFs to front for her occupation. You still dont get it do you old man? All your life and you still dont know how the game is played. The US has been hooked on corrupt third world MFs ever since Mobutu and before.
...and you conveniently forgot that your bolded words are mine and I used them against you awhile back. If you are that absentminded, for a young man no less, then I'm taking my marbles and leaving you to play by yourself.
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''Can you be more specifc in your understanding of him ''siding with Islamists?''
Then you: ''Like how? Actual communications and receipts for guns and ammo? lol''
Great. Then you admit Obama is not a closet-Islamist. He's been outed. Thank you for saying that. Them boys and girls at Dasein are screwin' with your head. Posts: 2118 | From: midwest, USA | Registered: Aug 2007
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No, my last post was not directed at you, but someone else with lack of social interaction skil, who does not know, when he lost the debate.
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Hey, confused one, wheres that evidence Ron Paul is a "reformed KKK" in suit? Please dont post his son or libertarian views as evidence. Thats as dumb as saying white socialist Democrats who advocate welfare state etc are "reformed Nazis" (national socialists). I know you are that much of a simpleton.
Gramps, I dont care what your views are, its obvious its not about Islamism, or even revenge (yeh right, spending billions each month on an occupation for "revenge" hahaha) and you dont know how the game is played.
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Many older Americans, including Americans of color were tricked and fooled into the connived Russian-American Cold War money-making trickery.
When you consider the vast amount of money and resources consumed by the world in support of this fake cold war, the resources could have instead been used to feed, educate, and elevate every single living person in the world. Instead, they were used to enrich a handful of the world's population at the expense of the other 98%.
Now that the Russian-American experiment in Capitalism Vs. Communism has completed, we now are faced with new resource consuming fakery, The War Against Terrorism, Homeland Security, and One World Control.
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''Gramps, I dont care what your views are, its obvious its not about Islamism, or even revenge (yeh right, spending billions each month on an occupation for "revenge" hahaha) and you dont know how the game is played.''
See, look at yourself here, running around the room bouncing off walls and stuff trying to make it seem as though I said it's still about revenge and now Islamism. You didn't go to sleep last night did you? Posts: 2118 | From: midwest, USA | Registered: Aug 2007
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I dont have to run from you old man, I leave that to you holocau$t believers. I'm just not in the mood to chase your dumbass bait posts. Posts: 4254 | From: dasein | Registered: Jun 2009
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''Was the Russian-American Cold War REAL? If so, why are Russians on the top of current US immigration list, and how is it that they can come and go as they please? Is the War Of Terror REAL? If so, why is it the primary so-called terrorists are CIA manufactured?
I'm at a loss to come to grips with any of this. Especially terrorists being a concoction of the CIA. Do you mean all the world's governments, or a lot of them anyway, are being duped by the CIA? Do all the African continent leaders say the same thing about that? I don't know I'm just asking. I'm truly at a loss to even entertain your comments.
I do recall about a year ago someone posted a quite lengthy article that seemed to be in support of your contention about terrorists and the CIA. If you can find it I'll surely read it all the way through this time.
Now I can certainly believe the CIA and its participants can be lowdown but to suggest they are in total control is beyond me. Am I reading you right on this?
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''Of course I never said Obama was a closet anything.''
My bag, I thought you were suggesting that he was the way you angled a few of your words.
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I can only say if the present U.S. leaders are as naive as the Bush folks, or any that came before them, then they need their asses kicked too. All I'm sayng here is I simply can't imagine the Obama administration *not* actually being aware before they even got involved that there would be *some* jihadis, former or present, involved in that struggle. But it serves them right to have the PR guys out front trying to assuage the fears.
I've always been highly sceptical of involvement of any kind in that part of the world for the past 40 years or so--apolitically though. And yes that definitely goes for Israel too. My thoughts on that go back to the ''recent'' beginnings of that cesspool brought on by the British and the U.S. who twisted a few others arms in the process leading up to 'partition'.
I saw this sh*t coming in 1972 in the Munich Olympics. I thought if these guys, the Arabs, have gotten to this point of desperation then maybe the western world and the Israelis had it coming. Yet the sad fact remains nothing has changed all that much.
Bottom line: I wouldn't be alive after two months as president because I would sever the financial welfare state of Israel in a heartbeat.
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...and the 70s as I recall from that era also said Blacks suffer proportionally. If we only make up 12 percent of the population then yes they would suffer more.
Economists blame a variety of factors. The black workforce is younger than the white workforce, lower numbers of blacks get a college degree and many live in areas of the country that were harder hit by the recession -- all things that could lead to a higher unemployment rate.
Maybe. But not all Blacks are college graduates. A lot are skilled bluecollar; the blue collar that has been decimated by the white boys with those white shirt and ties seeking more profits overseas. College used to be thought of as a means of escaping the b.llsh.t. Guess what, the muthaf..kin' chickens are coming home to roost ain't they.
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Unemployment for blacks with 4 year college degree currently stands at approx. 6%, or approximately 2x that for whites with the same education level.
The difference is; Whites are being educated to take over and run there family businesses, while blacks are being educated to become employees.
Jews? There is virtually no unemployment for them and their unemployment stats are in the noise.
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