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I took this pic about 15-20 minutes ago. The location is a terrace of cafe on Jabal Amman and the view you see is that of East Amman. Just before sunset.
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Sobri, you're form Jordan? Cool! I LOOOOOVE Amman. Been there several times. The only thing that bugged me was that I couldn't even whisper of any political views when I was there. Ya mama!
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Beautiful pic and you certainly have an eye and no I am not from Jordan but I will be living in Amman for the next few years. It would be nice if u shared a little info on the pic you’re sharing. Like when did you take it, where it is exactly, etc?
Political views, what political views in any Arab country? Yeah Amman is great and not to brag because it was unintentional but my pic pretty much illustrates the typical divide of Arab society, anyone notice?
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quote:Originally posted by Sobriquet: Beautiful pic and you certainly have an eye and no I am not from Jordan but I will be living in Amman for the next few years. It would be nice if u shared a little info on the pic you’re sharing. Like when did you take it, where it is exactly, etc?
Political views, what political views in any Arab country? Yeah Amman is great and not to brag because it was unintentional but my pic pretty much illustrates the typical divide of Arab society, anyone notice?
I can't say any details about my picture or else the hyenas will hijack your thread
My laptop sucks, I have no idea why I'm not seeing pictures clearly , but after staring really close at your picture, is it that there are two types of neighborhoods? One for the rich and one for the poor? Is that what you mean?
You don't have to tell me too much info, but what on earth are you doing in Amman for the coming years? Posts: 8756 | From: Tax-Free Zone | Registered: Jul 2005
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quote:Originally posted by MK the Most Interlectual:
quote:Originally posted by Sobriquet: Beautiful pic and you certainly have an eye and no I am not from Jordan but I will be living in Amman for the next few years. It would be nice if u shared a little info on the pic you’re sharing. Like when did you take it, where it is exactly, etc?
Political views, what political views in any Arab country? Yeah Amman is great and not to brag because it was unintentional but my pic pretty much illustrates the typical divide of Arab society, anyone notice?
I can't say any details about my picture or else the hyenas will hijack your thread
My laptop sucks, I have no idea why I'm not seeing pictures clearly , but after staring really close at your picture, is it that there are two types of neighborhoods? One for the rich and one for the poor? Is that what you mean?
You don't have to tell me too much info, but what on earth are you doing in Amman for the coming years?
Yes you are right one is liberal (wealthy) and one is conservative (poor). Women on this side are free to wear as they please. The other side is pretty much manatiq sha3beeyeh and the clustered infrastructure makes it obvious.
I will be studying here. Posts: 2079 | From: 'by any means necessary' - Malcom X | Registered: Mar 2007
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Yes I noticed the women in the pic, I was going to ask if they all dress there like that?
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quote:Originally posted by cairobug: Yes I noticed the women in the pic, I was going to ask if they all dress there like that?
Many dress like that in West Amman. It is very normal to see women wear as they please. Abdoun and Swayfiya are the most liberal areas and well, you would think the women are Europeans in miniskirts but they are Muslim women.
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Isn`t this the same as in Cairo? Go and visit the expensive schools, for instance, and compare the young people with the ones on gouvernment schools. The most trange thing in it, that both are looking down on each other. It really are two different worlds. At the same time this is my biggest objection (and fear) against projects as New Cairo. The difference and the inside thoughts are that much different, the envy is that big, the accepting is that low, that there must come kind of culture-clashes inside the society.It`s unavoidable....
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Doesn't the Koran says be grateful with what god gave you?
I experienced Egyptians in general as content and peaceful folks even if they were living in total poverty.
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quote:Originally posted by Tigerlily: Doesn't the Koran says be grateful with what god gave you?
I experienced Egyptians in general as content and peaceful folks even if they were living in total poverty.
Yes, I think I noticed the huge difference with the idea of wasting things, and not being grateful. I was amazed how in Egypt people I saw who lived in utter poverty and against all odds were content with themselves, and that's truly a beautiful thing. Just to accept things as they are.
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quote:Originally posted by MK the Most Interlectual: Sobri, you're form Jordan? Cool! I LOOOOOVE Amman. Been there several times. The only thing that bugged me was that I couldn't even whisper of any political views when I was there. Ya mama!
Here's my side of the world:
HAHAHA ! Omg, that sign, Hyena-free zone, this is classic, thanks for giving me a good morning laugh. Posts: 13440 | Registered: Feb 2006
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Both pics were taken last year in the South of France where I spent my summerholidays Posts: 2932 | From: Just now and then | Registered: Nov 2006
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quote:Originally posted by ?????: Isn`t this the same as in Cairo? Go and visit the expensive schools, for instance, and compare the young people with the ones on gouvernment schools. The most trange thing in it, that both are looking down on each other. It really are two different worlds. At the same time this is my biggest objection (and fear) against projects as New Cairo. The difference and the inside thoughts are that much different, the envy is that big, the accepting is that low, that there must come kind of culture-clashes inside the society.It`s unavoidable....
In essence yes there are many similarities with Cairo. However the divide here is substantial and it is like two different countries. Unlike Cairo the disparity isn’t from neighborhood to neighborhood. An example of this is the enclave of Maadi as it is surrounded by poverty ridden areas of Al-Arab, Basateen, Saqr’qurash), Dar-Esalaam and Toura to the south. Despite the contrast there is interaction between such areas and it is obvious by the yelling of “basateen, arab, basteen, arab, saqr, arab, saqr, arab” by microbus drivers picking up passengers in residential areas like Old Maadi.
Here you have West Amman which went through a massive transformation with billions of dollars of investment and you have East Amman which is very much third world. The income of residents in West Amman is pretty much on par with most western cities. My guess is such money is coming from outside the Kingdom. We have heard about wealthy Iraqis and rumor has it the money they have and spend is the money that disappeared during the US invasion of Baghdad. Literally billions of dollars disappeared along with many expensive artifacts from Museums. This is however miniscule in comparison to the money being poured in by Palestinians living in the US and Europe. Many wealthy Lebanese have also made their way here after the Israeli bombardment last year. My point is West Amman is on steroids, literally booming yet East Amman remains the same.
Are the inhabitants of East Amman happy? No! I have spoken too many of them and they feel they can not take it here anymore. You see the prices here are very much similar to those in western cities. The residents of West Amman are able to afford American made Duvets, $150,000 - $500,000 3 bedroom apartments, $3 a Gallon gas, central heat during winter, spending $7 on a movie ticket, eating $5 Big Whopper meals, etc, etc
Cairo is inexpensive the gas for cars is dirt cheap, water and electricity is practically free, rent is inexpensive. Here a 1 bedroom apartment in poorest areas will cost $100-$140 a month. Internet is very expensive, the VAT is 16% hence it is impossible in my opinion to be happy in a country where prices are first world but the salary is third world Bawabs here earn between 1000 L.E to 1500 L.E a month and they are living in one-room shacks.
Amman is literally two different cities. I think it is obvious many poor Egyptians are happy and why many poor Jordanians are not. I think Egypt offers many blessings for poor people(and ppl in general) and it begins with water, vegetables, fruits, electricity, gas and cheap housing.
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quote:Originally posted by desertgirl: To Sobriquet :
Thanks for your comment Yes I took the pic myself, I even ate them ...
desertgirl,
I am relieved to hear that you in fact took the olives pic because for some reason I do not want to get on your bad side. Posts: 2079 | From: 'by any means necessary' - Malcom X | Registered: Mar 2007
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I like to see pics from special places all over the world. I must say I posted the olives-pic first cause I thought this forum was about food, right ?? I hope more ES members post pics ... cause they are more 'personal'and 'special' than the ones you find in travel-guides.
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Taking photos is not haram because you have a real image of a real person. Paintings, drawings sketches and statues are not considered real likenesses of a person or creature although what is weird children are allowed dolls??? which makes no sense at all.
That's what I always believed?
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TL: It is supposed to be haram to take pictures of something with a soul, and to create idols for worship. But necessity overides this rule (ie ID's)
CM: The dolls thing I've seen pretty strict people not allow their children to play with dolls. Which I think is overboard, because it really lies in your intent (ie if its for worship).
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Hi CB So I am wrong. I thought photos were okay. I thought it was just drawings etc that were not allowed. Interesting... What about TV's then with images of real people?? and then you know cartoons and stuff. Comics books and childrens books with cartoon characters?? I am confused here. I can understand the photos and images of real people and animals, but what about images of fictional characters and drawings of real people??
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Sorry for diverging from this thread, which is great btw. As soon as I can figure out how to paste a pic in, I'll contribute as well (please pm if you know how to).
CM: I apologize I had considered looking for the original quote, but just didn't have the time to look for it at the moment. I'll paraphrase, it's something like on judgement day whoever creates an image will be asked to breath life or a soul into it (or will be held accountable for it). I've read discussions of it from a few scholars based on that, and other quotes referring to people worshipping idols that elaborate on present day applications. So as for some, this includes pics or drawings of living things. I asked this question when I was in Cairo, how do religious students then study at the Faculty of Art; and they told me that many go into the branches that focus on geometric patterns and shapes, etc. Thought it was interesting. All I can say is to look at direct quotes in hadeeth and the quran, and then decide for yourself (and consult some reputable scholars, ie PhD's in islamic studies from good institutions). I think intention is the most important thing, but then again just my personal views.
Disclaimer: Just my personal views, not worthy of the time or energy for debate.
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One of the many apartments I scouted during my initial visit to Amman. This one was a beauty: ground floor, 3 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, garden in the back, driveway, approximately 250 square meter (excluding outside area). Anyway I returned and it was rented out and apartments similar to it were 50% higher. They are 100% higher during the peak season. Best time to sign a contract is Dec-Mar. Notice the A/C’s on the apartment just above, probably people from Scandinavia living there because at this attitude there is no need for an A/C, especially that particular neighborhood.
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Thanks for sharing these pics. Amman is part of the world I had never seen pics from before ...
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quote:Originally posted by desertgirl: Thanks for sharing these pics. Amman is part of the world I had never seen pics from before ...
You are welcome. This is a very common Jordanian breakfast. Hummus soaked with olive oil + some of that green stuff + Pita bread. What's missing is a few falafel, olives and of course shai (tea).
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quote:Originally posted by desertgirl: Oooh, you know me that well ?? that you paste a pic of breakfasts ... ana ga3ana was the first thing I learnt to say (just kidding)
The pretty chick distracted me but i think the city is Paris Posts: 2079 | From: 'by any means necessary' - Malcom X | Registered: Mar 2007
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And here is the last one for today ... no food this time ... lol ... but sunset in South of France (atlantic coast) Posts: 2932 | From: Just now and then | Registered: Nov 2006
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