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Horus:Glider is British and he bloody lives there too.

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What are your clues, there is a post I posted that only an American can react too...you know the drug addiction thing of the Great American people...he got very excited about...

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LOL . You may not know this, but London is known for being worse than say, New York for cokeheads In fact, I KNOW Gilder is a cokehead Hey Tony, you can now get blue-magic quality gear for £60 at whitecity The only problem is, you're going to need a ghetto friend to get you in there

Pretty much all (fyi, I am generalising here) well-to-do white middle class Brits sniff the white horse now and again. It's quite popular to get offered a line at xmas parties or office outings after most attendees have gone home. For what it's worth, I've never been stupid enough to try something that I'd probably get addicted to, which would then consequently bankrupt yours truly (YH). I might try coca leaves infusion when I visit South America though.

A crack epidemic is developing in the London inner cities since a lot of youngins have got themselves addicted to coke but cannot keep up with the £60/gram show. Most of them won't ever see £60 in a day's work.

I know Glider is a Brit from his choice of words. If you lived in London, you'd know what I mean.

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Glider -

you still have not showed proof that AE were arabs. Infact Hawass even says so in the infamous BBC recording. He said "not black and not arab". Of course we know he is talking about West African/AA.


You do realize that most of the veterans, except DJ, are ignoring you because they have gone through this maybe 100s of time with new comers.

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Stop starting so many threads with the same theme.

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THE SAME NORTH AFRICAN CAUCASOID PEOPLE WERE PRESENT IN ANCIENT EGYPT. THESE PEOPLE ARE EGYPTIANS AND CONSTITUTE THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE (NOT INVADERS OR WHATEVER CARPETBAGGERS THINK)

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So why don't they look like this:





From: http://www.flickr.com/photos/manna4u/444766181/in/set-72157600042608697/

or this:



From: http://www.flickr.com/photos/menesje/508456221/

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Glider:
QUOTE]So why don't they look like this:





From: http://www.flickr.com/photos/manna4u/444766181/in/set-72157600042608697/

or this:



From: http://www.flickr.com/photos/menesje/508456221/

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BLACK FILIPINOS ARE MY BROTHERS:

* SAME COLOR LIKE ME!

* SAME FLAT NOSE LIKE ME!

* SAME FLAT ROUND FACE LIKE ME!

* YES SIR, WE'RE TWINS!

BOY,I COULD'VE HAD A V8?







SORRY, I WAS BLINDED BY ALL THOSE WHITE LIES: "I'M VERY DARK, BUT NO-NO, I'M NOT BLACK".

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LOL Yes, very dark compared to typical fair-skinned Asians. There are many people with dark complexions but are not 'black'. But don't try to lie to yourself thinking that only black people accept the truth and don't try to distract this thread from it.

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Validating racial stereotypes now are we? Which
subset of the hodgepodge of peoples from damn
near every continent except Australia is representative
of your, not my, [stereo]typical Hispanic and why?

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Must say though that I do like those images you
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Glider, didn't anyone tell you drugs are bad for you?

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Regardless how desperate our angry afangi friend is, the fact is still clear Egyptians are black Africans and their features are not uniqe whether it be short round noses or long straight noses, full lips or thin lips.

And their culture is equally African...

From North Africa to South Africa.

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LOL Yes, very dark compared to typical fair-skinned Asians. There are many people with dark complexions but are not 'black'. But don't try to lie to yourself thinking that only black people accept the truth and don't try to distract this thread from it.

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Validating racial stereotypes now are we? Which
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No I validate no stereotype. I merely meant my complexion is like those of Mexicans. But I don't deny black Dominicans as Hispanics also. Again, why don't you talk to Jaimie about that, not me.

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The struggle continues..

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Glide-mo: who's phobic other than yourself? I have Arab friends, one or two of whom I've told the Egyptians were black (who didnot get offended, but was skeptical at first - what right did he have to get offended? Though, I suppose there are some Arabs and others who assert that Ancient/Egypt's population was recently darkened by Arab migration - LOL - and who, like you would likely have to suppress real hostile feelings if someone were to even liken the Egyptians to 'negroes', and who use European racist words like n- -er.

Who's delusional?
And why, in the "middle east" where there was African migration in the Neolithic do we use the law of Occams Razor, but in Egypt you could just shout phony hypothesis and lame assessments porposing that Egyptians were mixed, or somehow African but non-African, without proof?

Why'd you try to hide your true-colors in the first place?

Good times, when they think it's about 'winning', and think they could possibly 'win' with pictures and slander:

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[...]these Egyptian students.



And who don't look African like [...]

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^Correction, Arab Egyptian students.

Here are rural non-Arab Egyptian school students

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[...]And who don't look "African", like this warrior:

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Of course not but the ancient Egyptian warriors sure do-- spears and shields and all!! LOL

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EGYPTIAN WOMEN HAIR DRESSING A NUBIAN LADY





NOTICE THE CONTRAST BETWEEN THE PALE EGYPTIAN WOMEN AND THE NUBIAN LADY. MORE THAN JUST THE SKIN COLOR.

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Scholia Reviews ns 5 (1996) 29.

Black Athena Revisited edited by Mary R.
Lefkowitz and Guy Maclean Rogers.

Chapel Hill &
London: The University of North Carolina Press, 1996.
Pp. xxii + 522. ISBN 0-8078-2246-9. US$55.00.

Toby A.H. Wilkinson
Christ's College, Cambridge.

In the latter half of the twentieth century, no
other book on the ancient world has created as much
of a storm as Martin Bernal's Black
Athena.[[1]] Since the publication of the first
volume in 1987, nearly seventy reviews, articles and
films have appeared discussing the book, its goals,
methods and hypotheses. Responses to Bernal's second
volume published in 1991 (two more are promised),
have added to the enormous literature surrounding the
work.
Black Athena Revisited represents a
collection of scholarly responses to Bernal's first
two volumes. Some of the contributions have already
appeared elsewhere as review articles, others were
specially written for this volume. Between an
introductory paper by Mary Lefkowitz and a
summarising conclusion by Guy MacLean Rogers, the
volume comprises eighteen papers by experts from the
United States, the United Kingdom and Italy. As
befits a book as wide-ranging in its scope as
Black Athena, the contributors to Black
Athena Revisited are drawn from an impressive
variety of academic fields. The papers are arranged
in seven broad categories, each addressing a
particular aspect of Bernal's work: Egypt, race, the
Near East, linguistics, science, Greece and
historiography. It is a testament to the impact of
Black Athena that so many distinguished
contributors have combined to review the work and its
implications for past and present scholarship of the
ancient Mediterranean world.


In her introduction, 'Ancient history, modern
myths' (pp. 3- 23), Mary Lefkowitz examines both the
history of western Classical scholarship and the
ancient Greeks' own myths about their origins.
Bernal's central charges in Black Athena are:
(1) that ancient Greek civilisation was massively
influenced by Egypt and Phoenicia, and (2) that
eighteenth and nineteenth century scholars
deliberately obscured the Afro-Asiatic roots of
Classical civilisation for reasons of racism and
anti-Semitism. Equally, perhaps more controversial,
is Bernal's claim that the ancient Egyptians were
black Africans, a theory which gives Black
Athena its title and which has made the book a
cause ce/le\bre amongst Afrocentric ancient
historians. These important questions are tackled
head-on by the individual papers which form the body
of Black Athena Revisited. Lefkowitz casts her
own severe doubts - 'to speak of the ancient (or
modern) Egyptians as "black" is misleading in the
extreme' (p. 21)[b] - but also makes the crucial point,
echoed by other contributors: that Afrocentrists, 'in
the process of claiming Greek history as their own [b]
... will miss an opportunity to learn about real
Africa and its own achievements and civilizations'
(p. 21).
John Baines offers an Egyptologist's perspective
in his paper 'On the aims and methods of Black
Athena' (pp. 27-48). Bernal's insistence on the
significance of Egypt for the development of Greek
civilization means that his limited use of the
Egyptological evidence seriously weakens his
argument. In this and other areas, and in common with
the other contributors to the volume, Baines
expresses grave reservations about Bernal's scholarly
methods. Two quotations will suffice to illustrate
the point: 'Bernal's reluctance to engage with
ancient Near Eastern civilizations on their own terms
leads to bizarre interpretations' (p. 45); 'his
concern with race also leads him to adopt models of
ancient ethnicity that are both inappropriate to the
materials studied and ethically somewhat distasteful'
(p. 46). A second Egyptologist of renown, David
O'Connor, takes a more conciliatory tone towards
Bernal, but is no less critical in his conclusions.
'Egypt and Greece: the Bronze Age evidence' (pp. 49-
61) concentrates on the textual evidence for
relations between Egypt and the eastern Mediterranean
during Egypt's Middle and New Kingdoms. Middle
Kingdom connections with the Aegean seem to have been
rather loose and sporadic; the New Kingdom data,
although suggesting a degree of contact, 'do not
imply the substantial cultural impact of Egypt upon
the Aegean required by Bernal's theory' (p. 60).
O'Connor points out that years of fieldwork in the
Aegean have failed to produce any evidence for an
Egyptian colonisation. In conclusion, Bernal's
arguments are 'unpersuasive, so far as the Egyptian
evidence ... is concerned' (p. 61). Frank Yurco
provides a broad but detailed assessment of the
Egyptian evidence so central to Bernal's theories
('Black Athena: an Egyptological review', pp.
62-100). In his downplaying of the role of
Mesopotamian cultural influences in the formation of
Egyptian civilization, Yurco is out of step with the
most recent Egyptological opinion. Likewise, Yurco's
statement that the Middle Kingdom Mit Rahina
inscription 'does attest an Egyptian-ruled Asiatic
empire' (p. 73) contradicts the usual interpretation
of this important monument (as given by O'Connor, p.
54). Yurco also accepts rather more of Bernal's
arguments, describing his claims for Egyptian
influence on the Greek world as 'in essence
reasonable' (p. 95). Nonetheless, Yurco is keen to
emphasise the difference between trade and rule: the
presence of Egyptian and Hyksos artefacts on Crete
attests to the former, not the latter.
For the Afrocentrists who have seized upon
Black Athena, the issue of race - more
particularly, the race of the ancient Egyptians -
lies at the heart of Bernal's work.[b] Black Athena
Revisited includes three papers on this subject:
'Ancient Egyptians and the issue of race' by Kathryn
Bard (pp. 103- 111); 'Bernal's "Blacks" and the
Afrocentrists' by Frank Snowden (pp. 112-128); and
the contribution by C. Loring Brace et al.,
'Clines and clusters versus "race": a test in ancient
Egypt and the case of a death on the Nile' (pp. 129-
164).[b] Bard assesses the representational and
linguistic evidence from ancient Egypt, both of which
distinguish the Egyptians from their southern sub-
Saharan neighbours. Bard stresses that 'Egyptians
were ... neither black nor white as races are
conceived of today' (p. 104). Moreover, 'to state
categorically that ancient Egypt was either a black -
or a white - civilization is to promote a
misconception with racist undertones' (p. 111).[b] This
aspect of Bernal's argument is picked up by many of
the contributors to Black Athena Revisited, and
emerges as one of the central criticisms of his work.
Indeed, in the conclusion to the volume, the editors
call upon Bernal 'to reject publicly, explicitly, and
unambiguously any theories of history which conflate
race and culture' (p. 453).[b] Snowden accuses Bernal of
misusing the ancient evidence relating to ethnic or
colour terminology. He warns 'substituting fiction
for fact is a disservice to blacks' (p. 127). Echoing
Lefkowitz's opening remarks, he points to the
important achievements of Nubia, 'a black African
culture of enormous influence and power' (p. 121),
ironically neglected by Afrocentrists in their
emphasis on ancient Egypt. C. Loring Brace et
al. present the results of a detailed scientific
examination of ancient Egyptian cranial material.
Comparisons between the cranial morphology of
Egyptians and other populations indicate that the
former have 'nothing whatsoever in common with Sub-
Saharan Africans' (p. 145). Although their evidence
refutes Bernal's identification of the Egyptians as
black Africans, the authors deplore the very attempt
to categorise the ancient Egyptians by modern
concepts of race. Not only did the race concept not
exist in ancient Egypt, 'it has neither biological
nor social justification' (p. 162).
Particular scorn is poured upon Bernal and his
'unscholarly methods' (p. 167) in 'The Legacy of
Black Athena', by the ancient Near Eastern
specialist Sarah Morris (pp. 167-174). She deplores
Black Athena's 'cumbersome detours ... and ...
labored misunderstandings' (p. 167), and regrets that
Bernal has 'only contributed to an avalanche of
radical propaganda without basis in fact' (p. 174).
In particular, Morris argues, Bernal's emphasis on
ancient Egypt has blinded him to the strong
connections between Crete and the Levant, connections
which were 'more critical to long-term developments'
(p. 169). Echoing the concerns of Lefkowitz and
Snowden, Morris asks 'Why does African America need
Egypt, more than it does the magnificent cultures of
the West African coast, to legitimize its past and
present?' (p. 171).
A central plank of Bernal's argument is his
assertion that the Greek language shows massive
Egyptian and Semitic borrowing. In their detailed yet
highly readable paper, 'Word Games' (pp. 177- 205),
Jay Jasanoff and Alan Nussbaum expose the vast
majority of Bernal's proposed etymologies as false.
Thus, two leading authorities on Greek language
demonstrate the emptiness of Black Athena's
linguistic arguments, adding that 'in relation to
Bernal's overall project, the linguistic evidence is
worse than unhelpful' (p. 201).
The longest contribution to Black Athena
Revisited is Robert Palter's 'Black
Athena, Afrocentrism, and the history of science'
(pp. 209-266). This examines the scientific
achievements of the ancient Egyptians, Babylonians
and Greeks in the fields of astronomy, mathematics
and medicine. Comparison of the three civilizations
shows Babylonian astronomy to have been far more
advanced than Egyptian, whilst in the field of
mathematics 'it is difficult to see how the peak
Egyptian achievements ... could ever have led to
Greek mathematics' (p. 255). Finally, a number of
fundamental differences between Egyptian and Greek
medicine lead Palter to question the proposed
influence of Egypt on Greece in this field too. The
conclusion must be that Greek science probably owed
as much, if not more, to Babylon as it did to Egypt.
The claims of Black Athena have shaken
three fields of study in particular: Egyptology,
Classics and historiography. The final two
collections of papers in Black Athena
Revisited represent the response of the last two
disciplines to Bernal's arguments. The Greek
perspective is expressed in three papers by Emily
Vermeule ('The world turned upside down', pp. 269-
279), John Coleman ('Did Egypt shape the glory that
was Greece?', pp. 280-302) and Lawrence Tritle
('Black Athena: vision or dream of Greek
origins?', pp. 303-330). Arguing that 'no one has
ever doubted the Greek debt to Egypt and the East'
(p. 272), Vermeule's paper has the character of a
polemic against Bernal. She criticises 'the constant
perversion of facts in Bernal's second volume' (p.
273), and lambasts the work as 'a whirling confusion
of half-digested reading, bold linguistic
supposition, and preconceived dogma' (p. 277).
Coleman provides a calmer assessment of the evidence
for Greek origins; his conclusions are no less
dismissive of Bernal's claims. There is not a shred
of historical, archaeological or linguistic evidence
for a Hyksos invasion and colonisation of Greece in
the second millennium BC, whilst Bernal's uncritical
interpretation of Greek myth as historical fact
ignores 'the generally accepted tenets of rational
analysis' (p. 292). Tritle castigates Bernal for his
'simplistic' use of ancient sources, and points to a
serious weakness in his 'Revised Ancient Model':
although Black Athena argues for massive
Egyptian influence on early Greek civilization,
'Bernal never pauses to consider the essentially
isolationist nature of the ancient Egyptians' (p.
320). As Baines has already pointed out, Bernal's
misunderstandings of Egyptian civilization do great
damage to his argument.
Perhaps Black Athena's gravest contention
is that Classicists and ancient historians in the
West deliberately obscured the Afro-Asiatic origins
of Greek civilization, driven by motives of racism
and anti-Semitism. This is an immensely damaging
accusation for western scholarship as a whole, and no
fewer than six papers reply to Bernal's withering
criticism of western historiography. Edith Hall - in
the volume's most charitable response to Black
Athena ('When is a myth not a myth?: Bernal's
"Ancient Model"', pp. 333-348) - believes that 'we
... cannot dismiss Bernal's book out of hand' (p.
335). However, she argues that Black Athena
demonstrates an unsophisticated approach to myth, and
confuses subjective and objective ethnicity: 'there
is a world of difference between saying that the
Greeks were descendants of Egyptians and
Phoenicians, and saying that the Greeks
thought that they were descended from
Egyptians and Phoenicians' (p. 336). In his second
contribution to Black Athena Revisited,
'Eighteenth-century historiography in Black
Athena' (pp. 349-402), Robert Palter points to
'fundamental errors in [Bernal's] understanding of
eighteenth-century political, social, and cultural
history' (p. 350). Bernal is charged with wilfully
mis-reading eighteenth-century writers, labelling
them all as racists, and ignoring the ambivalence and
variety in their attitudes towards Greece and Egypt.
Palter, then, accuses Bernal of deliberate
selectivity in his scholarship, citing his 'all too
frequent failure to mention crucial facts whose
existence would be embarrassing or inconvenient for
him to acknowledge' (pp. 389-390). Bernal's
methodology comes under further attack (if further
were needed) from Mario Liverani ('The bathwater and
the baby', pp. 421-427), who characterises Black
Athena as 'politically disruptive and
historically regressive' (p. 424). Robert Norton
offers a specialist paper, 'The tyranny of Germany
over Greece?: Bernal, Herder, and the German
appropriation of Greece' (pp. 403-410), in which he
discusses the views of the German writer Herder. Once
again, Bernal is charged with mis-representation.
Richard Jenkyns assesses nineteenth-century
scholarship in 'Bernal and the nineteenth century'
(pp. 411-420): classicists and historians of the
period were certainly not blameless in their hidden
political agendas, but neither were they as uniformly
racist as Bernal paints them. This is also the
conclusion of Guy MacLean Rogers in the last paper of
the volume, 'Multiculturalism and the foundations of
western civilization' (pp. 428-443). In the greatest
of ironies, Black Athena's emphasis upon race
and ethnic origins unwittingly returns 'to the
nineteenth-century style of "race"-bound and
ethnocentric historiography that Bernal himself ...
has so rightly questioned' (p. 440).
If two points, of sadness and hope, emerge most
clearly from the critical responses to Black
Athena contained in this book, they are the
following: on the one hand, the self- defeating
argument of Bernal's work, which 'succumbs to exactly
the Eurocentrism it was written to combat' (p. 452);
on the other hand, the forceful belief that 'the
ancient cultures of Africa and the Near East do not
need to be the founders of the West to be worthy of
global interest and study; they are intrinsically
interesting' (p. 442).
Black Athena Revisited is an immensely
stimulating volume, offering a collection of
insightful articles by experts from a diversity of
disciplines. In this respect, Bernal has undoubtedly
done archaeologists and ancient historians a great
service, forcing 'would-be critics to expand their
horizons far beyond their areas of expertise' (p.
294). Bernal's central hypotheses are universally
rejected, although the papers in Black Athena
Revisited vary in tone from the polemical to the
constructively critical. Whilst one or two come
across as little more than extended attacks on Bernal
and his methods - perilously approaching character
assassination in one instance - other papers are
veritable gold-mines of the best of contemporary
scholarship. All contributors agree on the
fundamental shortcomings of Bernal's work, yet all
have seen the need to respond to one of the most
controversial and challenging academic enterprises of
this century. With parts three and four of Bernal's
magnum opus promised in the near future, one
thing is certain: Black Athena will be
revisited many more times before the debate subsides.

NOTES

[[1]] Martin Bernal, Black Athena: The Afro-
Asiatic roots of Classical Civilization. Vol. 1: The
fabrication of ancient Greece 1785-1985. (London
1987); Vol. II: The Archaeological and Documentary
Evidence (New Brunswick 1991).

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disagreeing with it where it doesn't effect you and plunging
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No those are black Hispanics. I mean your 'typical' brown Hispanics in the US. LOL

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Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot:
One is an of Indian backround, the other is negroid.

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No I did not say that. Obviously there are lighter skined negroids.

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Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot:
In North America there are two BASIC groups of hispanics, one of Indian background, the other negroid.

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Two basic groups.

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Obviously the groups you mentioned are subgroups under the general heading hispanic, at least the racial componet of that term

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Wrong, the groups are not groups, but countries and in each country as Ive mentioned the Native American, African, and Spanish ancestry varies considerably.. they are all actually quite different.


Is this guy Native American, African or Spanish, and why?

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run along, you are just tryin to pick a fight. We are sayin the same thing moron. Look up the definition to the word basic.

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Now that I am past the hoodwinking and bamboozling, I not only know that the GODDESS came before the God but also that BLACK WOMEN Ruled Egypt FIRST AND FOREMOST:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah2mIB1NVMk&feature=PlayList&p=694582FE3DBC0BB6&index=0

Stevie Wonder even told Ray Charles that Akhenaten IV was a female, because he too, saw those hips and just knew it was a woman. Not only are so-Called Egyptologists out of touch with the true reality of Ta Meri ---they also got what they thought they knew ---wrong...!

Pharaoh Akhenaten IV And The Sun Disk

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OPEN YOUR BLACK RACIST EYES A LITTLE WIDER: AND SMILE!



REPEAT AFTER ME: ANCIENT EGYPT WAS NOT A BLACK AFRICAN NATION.

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