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Egmond Codfried
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HISTORICAL AFRICANS AND ASIANS IN EUROPE

In my research after the Black and Coloured European elite I like to keep the persons who's etnicity clearly is connected with Asia or Africa, seperate from persons where it's more problematic.

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Asians medics of King George IV

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JACOBUS ELIZA CAPITEIN

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PHYLLIS WHEATLEY, POETESS AND ABOLISHIONIST

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OLAUDAH EQUIANO, ABOLISHIONIST, AND HIS DAUGTER ANGELINA OSBORNE

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ALEXANDER DUMAS

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This 1826 illustration shows Mahomed's Baths on the Brighton seafront. Din Muhammad, an Indian officer of the Company's Bengal Army, travelled to Britain in 1784. In 1812 he opened a bath-house in which he offered what he dubbed 'the Indian Medicated Vapour Bath' (it had Indian medicinal herbs added to the vapour) and 'Shampooing with Indian Oils'. The peak of Muhammad's career came when he treated King George IV and King William IV and was awarded Warrants of Appointment as 'Shampooing Surgeon' to their majesties.

Muhammad was one of very few Asians in England. While British culture became cluttered with Asian products, Asians themselves were only rarely encountered in Britain.
About the India Office trading documents

This is part of a collection of documents from the British Library's India Office, all of which relate to British trade with Asia from the late 1600s to the 1800s. The East India Company's first ships arrived in Bengal in 1608. By the end of the 17th century the company had factories, forts and settlements in Calcutta, Bombay and Madras. It was importing cotton, silk and indigo, and making inroads into the Dutch domination of the spice trade.

Early in the 18th century, Company ships began to sail onward to Canton and the trade in tea ('cha') and porcelain ('China ware') began. From this time on the East India Company became more of a ruling power than a trading company in India, with the increasing involvement of the British government. A period of progressive domination and annexation followed so that, by 1858, when the East India Company was dissolved and the administration of India was taken over by the Crown, Britain controlled India, Burma, Singapore and Hong Kong.

From: http://www.bl.uk/learning/langlit/texts/empire/india/baths/brighton.html

Deen Muhammed
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From: http://www.virtualmuseum.info/collections/object.asp?galleryid=103&row=19&ckid=46302

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The portrait of Jean-Baptiste Belley, 1797
Anne-Louis Girodet-Trioson (French, 1767–1824)
Oil on canvas; 62 5/8 x 43 11/16 in. (159.1 x 111 cm)Musée national des châteaux de Versailles et de Trianon, Versailles

http://www.unesco.org/courier/2001_07/uk/doss13.htm

http://blog.catherinedelors.com/2008/06/13/citizen-jeanbaptiste-belley-beyond-a-portrait.aspx


About the painter: I find three of his portraits in google and they are very different from one another. The Girodet Museum did not answer my inquieries about this. On the second one he looks coloured to me. He included many Coloureds and Blacks in his masterpieces.

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Girodet_Autoportrait.JPG

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Anne-Louis Girodet de Roussy-Trioson
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Malvine, dying in the arms of Fingal, beginning of 19th century.
Le Sommeil d'Endymion (The Sleep of Endymion). Oil on canvas, 1791
Portrait of François-René de Chateaubriand, beginning of 19th century.
Apotheosis of French soldiers fallen in the liberation war, beginning of 19th century.Anne-Louis Girodet de Roussy-Trioson (also given as Anne-Louis Girodet de Roucy-Triosson, Anne-Louis Girodet-Trioson) January 5, 1767 – December 9, 1824),[1] was a French painter and pupil of Jacques-Louis David, who was part of the beginning of the Romantic movement by adding elements of eroticism through his paintings. Girodet is remembered for his precise and clear style and for his paintings of members of the Napoleonic family.

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Study for Portrait of an Indian
Anne-Louis Girodet-Trioson (French, 1767–1824)
Oil on canvas; 16 x 12 7/8 in. (40.6 x 32.7 cm)
Purchase, Gift of Joanne Toor Cummings, by exchange, 1997 (1997.371)

Anne-Louis Girodet was, after Ingres, the most gifted painter to emerge from the studio of Jacques-Louis David. Returning to Paris after his stay at the French Academy in Rome, Girodet developed a style marked by literary preciosity, imaginary pictorial effects, and exotic subjects and settings. This is the oil sketch for a lifesize portrait now at the Musée Girodet at Montargis. When the lifesize canvas was sold at the posthumous auction of Girodet's studio, it was catalogued as a portrait of an Indian and dated 1807. The costume, however, is Ottoman, not Indian.

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http://www.latribunedelart.com/Expositions_2005/Girodet_Mustapha.jpg

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8. Anne-Louis Girodet-Trioson
Portrait de Mustapha, 1819
Huile sur toile - 56 x 46 cm
Montargis, Musée Girodet
© Montargis, Musée Girodet

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Dear Doug M.,

Ramadan Mubarek. Peace to everyone.

Thank you for catching my drift and posting this wonderfull portrait of Deen Mohammed in this topic. I envision this thread to be filled with all these marvelous portraits. Keep up the good work.

Egmond Codfried

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ANGELO SOLIMAN(1721-)

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Jan Kooi, Ghanian soldier, fighting against the Indonesians as member of the Dutch army

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Phyllis Wheatly, poetess.  -

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Francis Barber

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Ignatius Sancho. Abolishonist. Writer

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quote:
Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
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Francis Barber

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This dude has my last name "Barber"; wonder if we're related.
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Why this fetish with Europe?
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Why this fetish with Europe?

Because I live in Europe, I have access to all museums and archives with Surinam sources, and was born in Surinam which was colonised by Holland. So Surinam history is also Dutch history. I see myself as writing the decolonised version of this history. The European elite were also represented in Surinam, all the political upheavals were also felt in Suriname, and the people also responded to ideas from Europe. Now I have the chance to see all of these from another perspective, their beginnings in Europe. Next to this, because of my iconographic research after Africans in the European Diaspora, I see a lot of portraits, which I like to share with all of you. I want to replace the hateful and demeaning images we are shown to intimidate and hurt us. So at least I like to get credit for introducing all of you to some very interesting if not beautiful portraits. I would suggest printing them in colour on good paper, frame them and give them to family and friends as gifts.
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You can add the legend of the sparrow city of Cirencester.Cirencester was sometimes called "urbs passerum" "sparrow city" because of an event transcribed by Alexander Neckham,abott of cirencester from 1213 to 1217,which he says happened during the wars between the britons and saxons in the 6th century.

The saxons had been beseigeing the city for six years but could not overcome it's fortifications and drive out the britons until their leader an an african named gormund devised a cunning plan.He had noticed that many sparrows nested in the thatched roofs of the houses so when they flew out into the surrounding fields he set his men to catching them and tied burning straws to their tails before releasing them.The birds flew straight back to their nests,setting fire to so many houses that the britons could not cope and and had to abandon the city.The similar story is told of uriconium,shropshire.

Another story I found while reading the uriconium tale [this was in a book of general lore of briton] is a story in Whitchurch apparently there lived a wizard or cunning man called John Thorne 'a big,handsome,black-looking man',so famous for his powers of clarivoyance that stories about him were still repeated as late as 1915 by a Mrs A of Press.The story to transcribe here is so long but basically there were alot of these black wizards/cunning men who were used to figure out who had commited some trivial crime or what have you.Many appear to have used a similar technique of clarivoyance which included having their clients look into a mirror or similar scrying device and have them say who they saw in it.The client would then be led to voice his own suspicions which the cunning man would confirm,perhaps involving hypnosis.A sort of guide to peoples own forgotten inuition.

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Dear Afrosaxon,

You appear to be a real scholar! Perhaps 1300-1789 should be regarded as the last phase of Black dominance of Europe.

Egmond

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Neckam

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An African woman. By Marie Benoist (1800)

Read somewhere that it was a life model, somehow related to Madame Benoist.

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Self-portrait by Marie Guillemine Benoist (1768-1849). Whitened?

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He was born in the Caribbean.


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Francis Barber

http://www.untoldlondon.org.uk/archives/TRA38765.html

This dude has my last name "Barber"; wonder if we're related.

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Ervand Demirdjian: 1870 – 1936
"Portrait"
30x40 cm
Oil on canvas
Signed

Ervand Demirdjian was born in May 1870 in Constantinople where he studied fine arts and graduated with honors in 1890. In 1893 he went to Paris and enrolled in the junior academy of Art becoming a student to painter Jean Paul Laurens and to the famous orientalist Benjamin Constant. At the same time he worked at the Louvre studying and copying classical works such as Delacroix, Dante and Virgil. After returning to Constantinople he was faced with the persecution of the Turks against the Armenians. In 1896 he fled with a group of Armenians and reached Alexandria and from where he moved to Cairo. Together with 2,000 other Armenian refugees he began a miserable life until the local Armenian community led by Decran Pasha did its best to shelter and feed them. After a short time Demirdjian was able to become a part of the Egyptian popular life and started studying their mode of life and mannerism. This led to an enormous quantity of drawings and paintings documenting everyday life. He participated in some of the annual exhibitions of the Circle of Artists which is the first artistic group in modern Egypt. In 1901 he began lecturing art and teaching in the Khorenian Armenian School where he tutored students privately and the most talented was the known painter Diran Garabedian (1882-1963) who became his successor and one of the first avant-garde in Egypt.

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