quote:Originally posted by White Nord: Case and fucking point Middle Easterners have been present in Egypt since Pre-Dynastic times. Keita and Ehret's bullshit about indigenous this and that are fucking dead! Jump off a fucking bridge Afronuts.
Wow, someone didn't read the whole thread.
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I'm not buying that ****, the burden of proof is on you all to prove that these Middle Easterners who migrated back were in some twisted fucking way still black. Like always the only response will be a picture spam by Zaharan of the most irrelevant points. Case in point though, Middle Easterners have been on the Nile since Pre-Historic times, putting an end to all of this indigenous black bullshit. Proof is in the fucking pudding, HAVE A NICE DAY!
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^^^ You sound like a raving lunatic, no doubt a condition of the constant beatdowns you have been given here. First off no one denies that there were small scale movment between folks from the Middle East and Africa, These people could have easily been black due to the relationship between Africans and Near Easterners at this time.
"The Burden of Proof would be on you to prove they were NOT BLACK,"
.... You see how Fallacy arguments driven off emotion works. The fact is this in no way takes credit from the fact that the Egyptians were for the most part Tropical Africans from Southerly Areas.
BTW, the Migrations went both ways, there were blacks up in the Middle East, but Im sure you don't like to talk much about those Migrations do you..
"CASE IN FUCKING POINT" Egypt was a Nilotic Civilization founded by Tropical Africans..
quote:"There is now a sufficient body of evidence from modern studies of skeletal remains to indicate that the ancient Egyptians, especially southern Egyptians, exhibited physical characteristics that are within the range of variation for ancient and modern indigenous peoples of the Sahara and tropical Africa. In general, the inhabitants of Upper Egypt and Nubia had the greatest biological affinity to people of the Sahara and more southerly areas."
Back to your cave...
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Case and point Levantine influence has been an integral part of Egypt since Pre-dynastic times. Egypt is not an indigenous product of Africa.
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^^^^ Dude STFU seriously. You are meerly grasping at straws. No claims Egypt had no Levantine Influence, but the fact of the matter is that Egypt's culture comes from within Africa and by Tropically adapted Africans. Greece had influences from Mesopotamia, and Mesopotamia esp. the later cultures were heavily influenced by Egypt.
You Eurocentric wannabe racists annoy me. Every other civilization on Earth was influenced from the outside but only Egypt you all wanna make a big deal about Minoritity of Asiatics and Eurasians.
Egypt is African and a signifigant portion of her people are still African geneticall despite "Arab" admixture. The people of Upper Egypt and Lower Sudan are a good remnant of the founding Dynastic Egyptian population.
Stop being racist against Southern Egyptians by denying their role in Dynastic Egypt.
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Middle Easterners have been in Egypt since the Neolithic.
^^Of course "Middle Easterners" have been in Egypt since the Neolithic, no one has ever denied that. Your "point", played up as if it were something, is trivial.
The key fact is that non-tropical African derived "Middle Eastern" influence is insignificant in terms of the primary, fundamental population of ancient Egypt, or its culture, until the later periods when Persian, Hyk, Assyrian, Greek, Roman, Arab and other influence held sway. Prior to this though over 2000 years of Egyptian civilization was already 'done'. Credible scholars confirm this fact again and again. No amount of bluster and whining will change it, sorry.
Another way you are again debunked is that some of your precious "Middle Easterners" in the Neolithic and even after resembled tropical Africans. That's right. Your "killer" observation includes people resembling "blacks". Read it and weep. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Were there miscellaneous traders, nomads, war captives and other small-time assorted "Middle Easterners" ever in Egypt? Of course. Thanks for the blinding insight, "CAPTAIN OBVIOUS."
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LMFAO now you dumbasses are admitting that ancient Egypt has been mixed since Pre Dynastic times. It was never a solely African creation as you Afronuts have been advocating for the past decade. Now that genetic evidence has come back to bite you all in the ass you want to play dumb ha ha.
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^^Captain Obvious- your pathetic strawman ain't washing. No one has ever "denied" that "Middle Easterners" have never been in Egypt. Is this the best strawman you got? Puhleeze fool...
You may get away with such bogus nonsense on the "amen corner" of zetaboards or Dodona but not here. The question is not whether "middle easterners" have ever been in Egypt. Everyone knows they were- just trade goods would tell you small-time merchants and others would have had to enter Egypt. This is news? Let's once again recap your 3-part debunking "Nord"..
Debunk 1-- The "presence of Middle Easterner" strawman is bogus. The key fact is that non-tropical African derived "Middle Eastern" influence is insignificant in terms of the primary, fundamental population of ancient Egypt, or its fundamental culture, until the later periods when Persian, Hyk, Assyrian, Greek, Roman, Arab and other influence held sway. Prior to this though over 2000 years of Egyptian civilization was already 'done'. Credible scholars confirm this fact again and again. No amount of bluster and whining will change it, sorry.
2-- Debunk 2: Another way you are again debunked is that some of your precious "Middle Easterners" in the Neolithic and even after resembled tropical Africans. That's right. Your "killer" "Middle Easterners" includes people resembling "blacks". Read it and weep.
3-- Debunk 3: the "sole African creation" claim is yet another strawman. We all know Egypt had some influences from the outside. The key point is that Egypt is primarily an indigenous, African civilization. Your notion of mythical "Afrocentrists" positing a "sole African creation" - exists only in your addled mind - easy grist for the feverish "white faithful" on Dodona etc, but BS in the real world.
That's three strikes "Nord" .. you out. Find better strawmen next time, will ya.. You are obviously suffering from Clue Deficit Disorder.
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Just as I stated the Near Eastern component is what lead to the creation of ancient Egypt, and is in compliance with earlier research which confirms that Sub Saharan Africans were brought to Egypt as slaves during ROMAN TIMES
"To obtain the frequencies of these mtDNA types, amplification of the HVRI region and three RFLP markers was conducted. The authors succeeded in analysing RFLP markers in 34 samples and HVRI sequences in 18 of the samples. Both populations, ancient and contemporary, fit the north-south clinal distribution of “southern” and “northern” mtDNA types (Graver et al. 2001). However, significant differences were found between these populations. Based on an increased frequency of HpaI 3592 (+) haplotypes in the contemporary Dakhlehian population, the authors suggested that, since Roman times, gene flow from the Sub-Saharan region has affected gene frequencies of individuals from the oasis."
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^^Yawn. You are copying and pasting from a thread in which you were completely debunked. Whatsa matta? Running out of bogus material?
And "sub Saharan" Africans migrated into Egypt millenia BEFORE Roman times. Even Mary Lefkowitz says the Nile Valley was populated by people who came south of the Sahara. The study you quote from focuses on the small Dakleh Oasis. WHo do you think you are fooling?
Let's recap your previous debunking where you were caught `out faking study dates.
Originally posted by White Nord: 1) Let me get this straight, you’re having issues with the date and not the content? Ok just wanted to make sureeee! ‘Cause correcting the date does not change the content.
Nord always claims more "recent" studies show white Egypt and Africa, than is why he falsified the dates on the old ones above, and was caught out in a lie...
^^ No matter what bogus date you choose, your still fail, and you have already been debunked on the content. Why are you still running away from your earlier lies in this thread, where you put more recent dates on one of your outmoded studies, trying to pas it off as more recent as everyone saw in the link below? You make a fetish out of “more recent” dates. It is obvious that you were trying to pad the study dates so you could continue this deception. No one is being fooled ace. See: http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=001736;p=2
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hile Arab speakers overall are closer to Egyptians and Libyans. T.. (Population History of North Africa: Evidence from Classical Genetic Markers” Bosch et al. 2001)
^^Why you trying to lie Ace? You do it twice in this post, using 2 different dates, padding the dates to make the study seem more "recent." The study you cite above was done in 1997 not 2001..
9)) Now lets take your bogus claim #9- a few sub-Saharans at an oasis means a;white Egypt; lol
Labeling a scientific study as bogus is hilarious, coming from you.
^^I was referring to your bogus claim 9 made on ES. Didn't say the study was bogus, but your claim, based on the study. And no one is forgetting that earlier you faked dates on different studies to make them appear more recent. -----------------------------------------
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... It's all you've got. A "minor" oasis should have seen major Sub Saharan gene flow considering its location and all the time in the world to acquire it. I mean, this is Africa right where you clowns claim only blacks inhabited Africa until recently but apparently blacks did not inhabit this portion of the southern Egyptian desert until recently.
^^The only "insecurity" is yours as in your earlier attempt to make your references seem more current by faking the dates. It still won't work.
As for the oasis, your "rebuttal" is still dubious. The oasis is a minor part of Egyptian territory and Egyptian population. Indeed, people left the oasis precisely because it could not sustain much numbers. Hence your 'buildup 'of it falls flat. In addition, no one here disputed that the oasis had gene flow at some time during its millennia of existence. That gene flow could include Greeks Hyskos, Persians, Romans, etc, etc in their respective eras. Saying that anyone here is "denying" that people other than tropical Africans lived at the oasis at some point over its history is yet another bogus strawman on your part, like your faked study dates, among other things.
Furthermore even your proferred weblink on the oasis fails to support your caucasoid Middle Eastern fantasies. It notes that the oasis has been inhabited a long time. Your other proferred "report" shows that 'sub-Saharan' gene flow increased since Roman times. It does not tell us if the sub-Saharan gene flow was already in place before that. All it tells us is that sub-Saharan flow increased. It does not tell us if your precious "caucasoids" were in place earlier than the tropical Africans at all. Your 'oasis buildup' is thin gruel indeed. If anything, the study of the ancient pre-historic material at Dakhleh indicates contacts with nearby Saharan cultures long BEFORE the Roman period. QUOTE:
"The picture emerging from the study of Dakhla prehistory is not so much that of an oasis isolated within a desert, as one with at least occasional far-flung contacts: with neighboring oases and the Nile Valley, with sites westward across the Sahara and with sub-Saharan Africa." -- Encyclopedia of the archaeology of ancient Egyptedited by Kathryn A. Bard, Steven Blake Shubert 1999
And the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities and the Egyptian Museum Fifth International Conference of the Dakhleh Oasis Project, 2006, confirms archaeologist Bard above, showing the site has clear cultural similarities with the tropical Saharan cultures around it as seen in art and iconography, and religious regalia such as masks. If anything the oasis shows clear connection to tropical African cultures. So much for your "ancient caucasoid buildup" at the oasis.
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Originally posted by Iah/WHITE NORD "The Sahara was a strong geographical barrier against gene flow, at least since 5,000 years ago, when desertification affected a larger region" Harich et al, 2010)
^^Again Your proferred quote does nothing to support you. No one ever denied that the Sahara was at times a barrier to convenient movement up to the Mediterranean zone. Produce a statement by any veteran poster denying that. The key points are (a) the peoples in place and in movement BEFORE the drying up, and (b) movement of people actually INSIDE the Sahara to other places.
As Frigi 2010 shows below, there was gene flow in place long before the drying up of the Sahara 5,000 years ago. This defeats your insinuation of some sort of rigid "sub Saharan" barrier to the presence or movement of tropical Africans. And even within the 5000 years, people came into places like the Nile Valley and moved elsewhere FROM the Sahara. The fact that it was drying up aqctually pushed people to settle more in the Nile Valley. It didn't keep them out- rather it helped pushed them in. As Yurco 1992, 1989 notes the Sahara acted climatic pump. So much for your fantasy "Saharan" barrier in terms of hindering movement of tropical African peoples.
Looks like your "Oasis buildup" fails again... "Nord"..
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Middle Easterners In Kemet since pre historic times...well yeah maybe but prove they were anything other than BLKS returning home
^^Indeed, that is the other aspect of so-called "Middle Easterners." In several cases, they looked like indigenous tropical Africans.
And sure "Middle Easterners" have been in Egypt since early times. No sane person disputes that. WHite Nerd is creating yet another bogus strawman, in which mystical "Afrocentrists" allegedly "deny" this. What total BS. The key point, as always, is not the presence of "middle Easterners" - we all know that small-time traders, nomads, mercenaries etc etc would have been there given almost 4000 millennia. This is news? The key point is that said "Middle Easterners" made up little, and had little overall population effect on the core ancient Egyptian population, which is indigenous, tropical African. Towards the tail end eras of the Dynasties, outsiders like Persians, ROmans Greeks, Arabs etc would have more of an effect but these are latecomers, after over 2,000 years of Egyptian civ wsa already "done.
Cakazoid Egypt cultists claim that the facts above are "impossible". But hard science shows the indigenous African diversity that was ancient Egypt. Let's recap the data for newcomers:
Cakazoid Egypt cultists deny limb proportions data- sorry, but their whining won't change the facts.. They lose..
Cakazoid Egypt cultists deny that Egyptians' are closest ethnically to Nubians - sorry, but their bogus red herrings won't change the facts.. They lose again..
Cakazoid Egypt cultists deny the cranial and dental data- sorry, but their fake claims can't change the facts.. They still lose..
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: ^^Yawn. You are copying and pasting from a thread in which you were completely debunked. Whatsa matta? Running out of bogus material?
And "sub Saharan" Africans migrated into Egypt millenia BEFORE Roman times. Even Mary Lefkowitz says the Nile Valley was populated by people who came south of the Sahara. The study you quote from focuses on the small Dakleh Oasis. WHo do you think you are fooling?
Let's recap your previous debunking where you were caught `out faking study dates.
quote:Originally posted by White Nord: Bump Middle Easterners confirmed to be an integral part of Egypt's origins.
So thousands of years from now, when say America bites the dust and people are looking for relics of the past, is the fact that Middle Easterners being present going to show that most of America was mixed with European and middle Eastern? No. Prove that an admixture with middle easterners was prominent in most of the population and prove that people living in the middle east at the time were not tropically adapted Africans. If you can't STFU. I'm completely new to science of this nature and even I can tell you're being silly.
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Egypt was never a 100% black African civilization like Afronuts on this site have been claiming it to be for years. Middle Easterners have been there since the beginning. Fucking hilarious and no one pays attention to your irrelevant and tacky graphics Zaharan, so if you have nothing refuting this genetic finding then just STFU.
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^^^^ Greece, Rome, were never 100% White European nor was anything in the Middle East Pure Eurasian. You had Kushites in Arabia and the upper Echelyons of even the Persian Empire..
LMFAO, Is this all you have Evil Euro, You have finally realized you can't refute the African Origin of Egypt so you spend your time claiming Egypt was not 100% Black...LOL...
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Hetepheres II the ''fair haired daughter of Cheops'' -
The pyramid builders were blonde and sallow-white skinned. They weren't negroes, they were Caucasoids of Nordic phenotype.
Black people don't have fair skin and blonde hair. Those are not your features as much as you crave them out of self-hate.
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Egypt was never a 100% black African civilization like Afronuts on this site have been claiming it to be for years. Middle Easterners have been there since the beginning. Fucking hilarious and no one pays attention to your irrelevant and tacky graphics Zaharan, so if you have nothing refuting this genetic finding then just STFU.
What do you think the racial composition of ancient egypt was? I'm interested in hearing.
My own view is that it was predominantly Mediterranean Caucasoid, but with a Nordic and (later) Armenoid ruling elite.
The Negroes just appeared around c. 2000 BC as slaves from the south.
I believe though that predynastic inhabitants were Bushmanoid and Mediterranid, the former being almost entirely replaced.
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quote:Originally posted by White Nord: Bump Middle Easterners confirmed to be an integral part of Egypt's origins.
Yep. What's funny though is that the afronuts admit that virtually all food and domestication came from Asia (wheat, barely, cattle etcetc) as these things were imported and never native to Africans (some dispute the cattle). Yet while they accept a foreign origin of the food & animals, they can't accept the simple fact of a migration wave and settlement from the middle-east. When it comes to black people though they claim they colonised the globe. LOL.
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Middle Easterners In Kemet since pre historic times...well yeah maybe but prove they were anything other than BLKS returning home
^^Indeed, that is the other aspect of so-called "Middle Easterners." In several cases, they looked like indigenous tropical Africans.
And sure "Middle Easterners" have been in Egypt since early times. No sane person disputes that. WHite Nerd is creating yet another bogus strawman, in which mystical "Afrocentrists" allegedly "deny" this. What total BS. The key point, as always, is not the presence of "middle Easterners" - we all know that small-time traders, nomads, mercenaries etc etc would have been there given almost 4000 millennia. This is news? The key point is that said "Middle Easterners" made up little, and had little overall population effect on the core ancient Egyptian population, which is indigenous, tropical African. Towards the tail end eras of the Dynasties, outsiders like Persians, ROmans Greeks, Arabs etc would have more of an effect but these are latecomers, after over 2,000 years of Egyptian civ wsa already "done.
Cakazoid Egypt cultists claim that the facts above are "impossible". But hard science shows the indigenous African diversity that was ancient Egypt. Let's recap the data for newcomers:
Cakazoid Egypt cultists deny limb proportions data- sorry, but their whining won't change the facts.. They lose..
Cakazoid Egypt cultists deny that Egyptians' are closest ethnically to Nubians - sorry, but their bogus red herrings won't change the facts.. They lose again..
Cakazoid Egypt cultists deny the cranial and dental data- sorry, but their fake claims can't change the facts.. They still lose..
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^ So called Afrocentric authors such as Diop and Sertima claim the egyptians intermarried with ''Nordic Libyans'' to account for the strong strain of blonde hair in egyptian royalty from as early as the Old Kingdom.
So even militant black afrocentrics have been forced to admit the egyptian royalty was white, or admixed with Nordic blood as early as the 26th century BC...
Hetepheres II ''fair haired daughter of Cheops''
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It's funny because I can easily go back and quote these dumbass's proclaiming Egypt to be 100% black African. Now that this study has proven them wrong they want to puss out of that stance and claim that they never argued it. Then they bring up Greece and Rome as a diversion tactic from the fact that they have just been debunked on their 100% black Egypt claim as they were notorious for promoting.
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Funny how they talk about white supremacist debating tactics, but are unable to see that they are doing the exact same **** that they accuse us as doing. Also notice that not one person has an answer to the study in the op.
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Afrocentric critic C. Loring Brace's 2005 study groups ancient Egyptian populations like the Naqada closer to Nubians and Somalis than European, Mediterranean or Middle Eastern populations. Brace's study shows that the closest European linking with Africans in Egypt or Nubia are Middle Stone Age Portugese and Neolithics, OLDER populations more closely resembling AFRICANS than modern Europeans. Early Neolithic populations, like the Nautifians, in what is now Israel, show sub-Saharan 'negroid' affinities. (Brace, et al. The questionable contribution of the Neolithic and the Bronze Age to European craniofacial form, Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2006 January 3; 103(1): p. 242-247.)
"The Niger-Congo speakers, Congo, Dahomey and Haya, cluster closely with each other and a bit less closely with the Nubian sample, both the recent and the Bronze Age Nubians, and more remotely with the Naqada Bronze Age sample of Egypt, the modern Somalis, and the Arabic-speaking Fellaheen (farmers) of Israel. When those samples are separated and run in a single analysis as in Fig. 1, there clearly is a tie between them that is diluted the farther one gets from sub-Saharan Africa" (Brace, 2005)
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quote:So called Afrocentric authors such as Diop and Sertima claim the egyptians intermarried with ''Nordic Libyans'' to account for the strong strain of blonde hair in egyptian royalty from as early as the Old Kingdom. So even militant black afrocentrics have been forced to admit the egyptian royalty was white, or admixed with Nordic blood as early as the 26th century BC... Hetepheres II ''fair haired daughter of Cheops'
Lie I have most of the work of Van Sertima and Diop they said no such thing,and really you think that Queen is Blond?? really?? So that will make these Kushities blonds also?? ..waddan idiot you are.
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Casshitaraid
quote:So called Afrocentric authors such as Diop and Sertima claim the egyptians intermarried with ''Nordic Libyans'' to account for the strong strain of blonde hair in egyptian royalty from as early as the Old Kingdom. So even militant black afrocentrics have been forced to admit the egyptian royalty was white, or admixed with Nordic blood as early as the 26th century BC... Hetepheres II ''fair haired daughter of Cheops'
Lie I have most of the work of Van Sertima and Diop they said no such thing,and really you think that Queen is Blond?? really?? So that will make these Kushities blonds also?? ..waddan idiot you are.
So true, lol
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If in your mind Egypt was not 100% black, then in your own words you are admitting Egypt did have a black presence and a black foundation correct..
I await your answer..because If I remember correctly you used to claim the Egyptians were not Niggers...correct..
quote:Originally posted by White Nord: It's funny because I can easily go back and quote these dumbass's proclaiming Egypt to be 100% black African. Now that this study has proven them wrong they want to puss out of that stance and claim that they never argued it. Then they bring up Greece and Rome as a diversion tactic from the fact that they have just been debunked on their 100% black Egypt claim as they were notorious for promoting.
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Notice Afrocentrics still keep avoiding the implications of this finding which proves that what they have been arguing all the way up to the posting of this study is false.
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Egypt was never a 100% black African civilization like Afronuts on this site have been claiming it to be for years.
[bfunny how they talk about white supremacist debating tactics, but are unable to see that they are doing the exact same **** that they accuse us as doing. Also notice that not one person has an answer to the study in the op.
Whatsa matta hypocrite? Why are you whining when your own theories, methods and notions are applied to whites? ANd contrary to your bogus claim that "not one person has an answer to the study in the op" - Page one shows quite the opposite. You contradict yourself.
You say: It's funny because I can easily go back and quote these dumbass's proclaiming Egypt to be 100% black African. Now that this study has proven them wrong they want to puss out of that stance and claim that they never argued it.
But up above you claim no one "has an answer". How could they be claiming this and that, when you say "no one has an answer?" Bogus retard, you can't even keep your bogus tale straight. But you still dismally on 3 counts.
1- Strike 1: You say you could "easily" quote the alleged Afrocentrists "proclaiming Egypt to be 100% black African." WHy is it that you can't produce these quotes where people say Egypt is 100% African and "deny" the presence of "Middle Easterners"? Pray tell, WHat's taking you so long moron? Produce these fantasy quotes bout 100% African Egypt. And let's not use your bogus troll accounts as "proof". SHow where Mind, Dje, Sund, Swenet, me, Explorer, Asteneb, etc and other regulars "proclaim" this "100% African" Egypt and "deny" the presence of people from the "Middle East".
Don't take too long. We'll wait... Crickets chirping...
2- Strike 2: The oasis study found some presence of J1 and the North African E1b1b1b lineages in 10 out of 35 samples or about 40%. Hardly earth- shattering for an isolated oasis on the fringes of Egyptian civilization. And E1b1b1b evolved in North Africa, so no matter how you slice it, peoples from the African continent are included in the 10 out of 35. And no one "denies" the presence of people from the "Near East" in Egypt in the Neolithic. This is yet another bogus strawman. We all know traders, nomads, etc could have been flitting in and out of Egypt, moving across the Libyan border for example into the Western Desert. The claim of "denial" of this is yet another moronic strawman you specialize in creating.
3- Strike 3: Overjoyed as you are by the reputed "NEar Eastern" oasis input, it is still trivial in comparison to the main line of Egyptian population, culture and civilization. The setting of a small-time Oasis filled with small-time nomads or farmers, a percentage of which may have had "NEar Eastern" input, is nothing much. Most of the oasis dwellers anyway 60% cluster the other way. Your celebration is of a small time percentage of people who were mostly indigenous African. SOrry. And the genesis of Egyptian civilization is from the South, without relying significantly on any "Middle Eastern" influx.
That's three strikes again Nord, and you STILL ain't worth shiiit.. You lose again.. Now run along.
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^^^ Notice White Nord is avoiding the implications of his remarks which proves that what he has been arguing all along(The Egyptians were not Niggers/Black) is false.
If he, white Nord is now claiming "Egypt is not 100% Black--WHAAAA...WHAAAA" Then in his own words Egypt was a % black and had a Black Presence and Black Foundation..
This is what we have been advocating all along...
You lose/We win..
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All the above^^^^ ancient and modern can be seen either on Nostrand Ave Blkyn or 125 ST. Manhattan, or having lunch at Sylvia's Soul food resturant.. Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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Some may have something to do with the sea peoples, in any case there is evidence of folks with partial Euro Asian ancestry in North West Africa, by Dna they have mostly East African Pt Dna and Mt Dna from their mommies, which more than likely is suggestive of trade in White or lite-skinned slave women.. early jungle feva..??? Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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^ Diop and Sertima have claimed a pale white skinned blonde and red haired race moved into Africa as early as the Old Kingdom -
The African origin of civilization: myth or reality, Diop, 1974:
''The Egyptians were so little white, that when they encountered a white person with red hair, they killed him immediately as a sick person unable to adapt to life. This was certainly a regrettable but comprehensible prejudice between two different races during those remote epochs of history.''
So who was this ''other race'' that had pale white skin and red hair in egypt from very early times?
Diop and Sertima have both supported the presence of Nordics in ancient egypt. If you are white though and say this, the afronuts call you a ''neo-nazi'' or ''stormfronter white supremacist''...
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quote:''The Egyptians were so little white, that when they encountered a white person with red hair, they killed him immediately as a sick person unable to adapt to life.
Now with the above how in hell are you going to get the foundation of Kemetian civ outta that Lol they were friggin strangers and strange to even contemplate!! Dame ur an idiot!! Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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quote:Originally posted by White Nord: Notice Afrocentrics still keep avoiding the implications of this finding which proves that what they have been arguing all the way up to the posting of this study is false.
Many have indeed shown the errors in the study. And questioned the conclusions. Which are left out by the authors.
Maybe you can explain who these middle eastern people were? From where did they come, according to you?
I mean, up till now you only have rant and raved, while the opposite party has analyst the particular paper, then came with conclusions, the errors in place.
Here are the questions I have.*
1). The Egyptian Western Desert lies on an important geographic intersection between Africa and Asia.
*How is it important as a geographic intersection "between" Africa and Asia?
2). Genetic diversity of this region has been shaped, in part, by climatic changes in the Late Pleistocene and Holocene epochs marked by oscillating humid and arid periods.
*Can you explain this any further? How do you interpret this?
3). North African E1b1b1b lineages, both generally known to have expanded within North Africa during the Neolithic.
*How does this fit?
The below, is a very odd sentence...to enclose with.
These results provide another piece of evidence of the relatively young population history of North Africa.
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ^ Diop and Sertima have claimed a pale white skinned blonde and red haired race moved into Africa as early as the Old Kingdom -
The African origin of civilization: myth or reality, Diop, 1974:
''The Egyptians were so little white, that when they encountered a white person with red hair, they killed him immediately as a sick person unable to adapt to life. This was certainly a regrettable but comprehensible prejudice between two different races during those remote epochs of history.''
So who was this ''other race'' that had pale white skin and red hair in egypt from very early times?
Diop and Sertima have both supported the presence of Nordics in ancient egypt. If you are white though and say this, the afronuts call you a ''neo-nazi'' or ''stormfronter white supremacist''...
On what page is this written?
From what I know, ancient Egyptians called a particular group of people "devils", in reference to their skin. But I could be mistaken.
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On what page is this written? The racist running dogs most likely are attempting to spin another bogus "quote" - or twist it way out of its original context, as they have so often done in the past. What's taking them so long in producing said quote, and if any quote exists, its proper context? Could it be that the fleeing buffoons have been exposed in another lie?
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