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I found this very interesting!

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-original-meaning-of-the-n-word-by-pianke-nubiyang/

The Original Meaning of the “N” Word — by Pianke Nubiyang
The Original Meaning of the “N” Word

By: Pianke Nubiyang
27, January 02, at 12:50 p.m.


THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE “N” WORD HAD A CONNOTATION CONNECTED TO THE GODS

The word “nig…” used to be the most revered and sacred word in the universe. It was the “devine epithet,” and the people who began using the mother of all words that originated from this word which was sullied by the British, were the ancient Egyptians or better, the Khemites, who called their land, “Khemet” or “The Black Land,” and also used the name, “Ta-merri” or “The Beloved Land.”

THE WORD “N-G-R” MEANS “GOD” IN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN

The father of the “n” word was the word used by the ancient Egyptians for “God.” That word was “N-g-r” and as one can see, there are no vowels in this word. In the ancient African and even the present African languages (the Afro-Asiatic linguistic family) vowels such as “a,e,i,o,u” are not found in many translations, particularly of ancient Hebrew and Egyptian languages.

In the translation of ancient Egyptian and Hebrew (which is heavily influenced by Egyptian), one will not always find vowels, therefore, very few people will realize that the word for God, which is “N-g-r” pronounced “en-ger” was the Egyptian word for God. In fact, the Egyptian word for “nature,” is also the word used for God. That word is “ntyr,” (pronounced net-jer.” Now prounce the word “nigg..” and the word “net-jer,” and one sees the clear connection.

MANY AFRICAN WORDS DENOTING PEOPLE OR IMPORTANT PEOPLE STARTS WITH “N”

In many African languages particularly the Niger-Congo language family. Words that connects with people, Gods, and groups begin with “n” and that word is always the first word. For instance, the word “Nkosi” in Xhosa is “God.” The word “Ndaba,” in another South African language is “counsil” (or gathering of elders). Many common names also begin with “N”.

WORDS OF AFRICAN ORIGINS THAT CAME FROM THE ORIGINAL WORD, “N-G-R” (PROUNOUNCED EN-JER)

N-g-r (Egyptian;pronounced en-jer) = God
N-t-y-r (Egypt; pronounced net-ger) = God, Devine
Negash (Ethiopia; ne-gash) = King
Negus (Ethiopia; ne-goos) = Emperor
Nkosi (Xhosa; en-kosi) = God
Ndaba (Zulu; en-daba) = Counsil/Officials,
Naga (East Indian, Nubian = People
Nugarmarta (West African = People (See the writings of Ibn Buttata’s journey to West Africa)

HOW THE N BECAME CORRUPTED

The Romans are probably the first Europeans to misrepresent the word for God, which was “N-g-r”

About the early part of the First Century, Romans tried to invade Ethiopia. (see BLACK HISTORY CHART or go here for a list of Nubian Pharaohs and Queens.

The Romans who were speakers of Latin always knew of Blacks, there were Blacks in Rome, Italy had an ancient Black presence long before the Latins migrated from Central Asia and North Eastern Europe during the ‘Aryan’ migrations. In fact, the Latin ethnic groups is still in existance in the northern part of Italy even today. This part of Italy still grips about Hannibal’s invasion which happened about two thousand two hundred years ago!!!!

The Romans had a name for Blacks, it was “Niger” and it meant Black or people of African origins. Thus, Septimus Niger would have meant, Septimus the Negro. Yet, how did the Romans connect the word “Niger” to Black.

In ancient times, Blacks were worshipped as Gods. The Gods of Greece came from Egypt. The worship of the Black Madonna is connected with the worship of Isis, the Egyptian Goddes. Moreover, Blacks in Egypt called their Pharaohs “En-ger” or “N-g-r” he was literally referred to as “THE GOD.”

It is very possible that when the Romans tried to invade Nubia, they asked for the name of the God and the term “N-g-r” was probably used in place of “leader” or “king”. In Angola, the same also happened during the 1600’s when the word “N-gola” which means “King” (notice the “N” and the “g” in this word as well), came to be “Angola,’ the name of a kingdom in south western Africa.
(Read more on Nubian, Egyptian, West African and ancient American trade and commercial connections in ancient times; see the book, “Susu Economics: The History of Pan-African Trade, Commerce, Money and Wealth,” published by 1stBooks Library, 1stbooks.com also see barnesandnoble.com

WHERE DID THE ROMANS FIRST HEAR THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE “N” WORD

A Roman general invading Nubia from Egypt would probably have used the Egyptian term for Pharaoh, which was “N-g-r” (God). This term then was used to refer to all Blacks and as time went by, the word N-g-r became Niger. In Fact, the Romans also classified their Emperors as “Gods,” to follow the Egyptian style. Moreover, as the History Channel poointed out, “Rome was a collection of villages before the Egyptians built it up.”(paraphrased).
The word “em-peror” sounds very close to the word “en-jer.” That is not a coincidental connection…………

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Original: The Original Meaning of the “N” Word — by Pianke Nubiyang

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Have heard of Ntr or Ntrw, but not ancient Egyptian "Ngr". What primary texts attest to its use?

Ps -... unless the above is alluding to the phonological invocation that allows some folks to write "Neter" out as "Netjer, in lieu of the "vowel-less" notation as done in hieroglyphics? but such is usually denoted by the alphabetic "j" as opposed to "g".

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I will investigate more. I just recently came across this one.
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Yes, I would agree with your Ps statement.

THE WORD "N-G-R" (EN-JER) AFTER IT WAS CORRUPTED BY THE EUROPEANS

Niger = (Latin or Black/African pronounced "ni-ger.")

Nero = Italian for Black
Negre = French for Black
Negro = Spanish for Black
The English called Blacks "Moore" or "Black-a-Moore" before they began using the word
"Negro" to refer to Blacks. FROM THAT WORD CAME THE RACIAL EPITHET, "NIGG.."

In like manner, the racist term for Japanese the mutilation of the word to shorten it into an epithet. Furthermore, the original name for Japan is the Chinese "Ni-Han." Now here is another great mystry that people who study the Niger-Congo linguistic family would quickly notice. EVEN THE WORD "Ni" in the Chinese "Ni-Han," has and ancient African connection. In fact, as Clyde Walters points out, The Chinese language is directly related to the Niger-Congo language which has its roots in the Cameroon region of Africa. In fact, there are thousands of African words from Cameroon to Kenya that have both prefixes and suffixes that are identical to both Chinese and Japanese languages (see also African Presence in Early Asia, by Ivan Van Sertima; Transaction Publishers)

In the Case of "Ni-Han" which may mean "rising sun," there is also a sacred meaning that is found in the word "n-ger," or "ne-gro." Yet, the racist terms "nip," and "nigg..." or "jap," used by racists were and are being used without any understanding of their original meanings. Only hatred and envy comes out of the mouths of those who use racial epithets in their attempt to insult and denegrade others. However, it is up to us to study our history and make these racist words impotent, while at the same time, understanding their original meaning.

Connection with the prefix "ni" with sacred and life:

Ni'le = The Nile River, Life to the Egyptians

Ni-ger = River in West Africa
Niger = Nation in West Africa
Nigeria = Nation in West Africa

Nago = Racist term used by some SE Asians to refer to Black Melanesians of Africoid origins

Nago-Mina = African nationality in Nigeria

Naghual = Aztec word for Shaman or priest. The first Olmec Shamans in Mexico came from Nigeria and elsewhere in West Africa (see Black Civilizations of America http://community.webtv.net/paulnubiaempire

THE ORIGINS OF THE TERM "HUN."

The racist term for whites also comes from a word that struck fear in the hearts of whites during the ancint times. That word is "Hun." The Huns were Mongol barbarians from Mongolia who tried to invade China and finally succeeded. THye invaded Eurasia from Russia all the way to Germany and mixed in with the Caucasians. Hence, the British began calling Germans the term "Hun."

The countries of Hungary, East Germany, northern Italy, Russia, Poland and much of Eastern Europe is mixed with the Mongol invaders. There were Mongol invaders in Turkey, Afghanistan, India, and many nations.

THE MONGOLS WERE DEFEATED BY NUBIANS AND MAMELUKES

When the Huns tried to invade Egypt (sometime in the 1100's), they were met by a strong force of Nubians and Mamelukes (white slaves from slavic, Turkics from Bosnia, Serbia, Albania, Turkey and such nations), who were soldiers for the Egyptian rulers. The Mongols were defeated and that was the end of the Mongol Empire. Moreover, they were thinly spread over Eurasia. They also met a crack cavalry of Nubian horsemen and archers, who had a tradition of archery that extends way back to ancient Egyptian times.

When one studies the history of the Huns in Europe, it is one of the most horrible genocides that existed (the genocide against Black Sudras and Black Australoids in India is another great genocide; see "Sudrology, http://dalitstan.org )
The huns ravaged Europe and are said to spread the blacck plague by shooting plague infested rats in the walled towns of the Europeans to infest them.

WE MUST STUDY OUR HISTORY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP OUR CONSCIOUSNESS AND MAKE PEOPLE'S RACIST REMARKS IMPOTENT

We must study our history. It is by knowing who we are that racist remarks and racial epithets will become impotent. Every time one uses the word "nigg..." to refer to a Black person, they are actually calling that person "God." When we Blacks say that our Afro's and locks are "natural," we don't realize the significance of the word or the true meaning. But something in our consciousness simply cannot be destroyed. To say we are going "natural," means we are going back to being "gods," because the word "natural," comes from the original Egyptian word, "n-t-y-r" which means "God." The ancient Egyptians used a similar word to call their Pharoahs. That word was "N-g-r." The word "Pharaoh," was never used to refer to any Egyptian King. Pharaoh came from the word "Per-o" which was the term for the Great Temple, where the King lived.

P. Barton is author of:
Susu Economics: The History of Pan-African Trade, Commerce, Money and Wealth," pub. by 1stBooks Library, www.1stbooks.com

A History of the African-Olmecs: pub by 1stBooks Library www.1stbooks.com

Susu and Susunomics: pub by www.iuniverse.com

P. Barton (P. Nubiyang)
http://community.webtv.net/paulnubiaempire
Nubianem3@webtv.net


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Originally posted by The Explorer:
Have heard of Ntr or Ntrw, but not ancient Egyptian "Ngr". What primary texts attest to its use?

Ps -... unless the above is alluding to the phonological invocation that allows some folks to write "Neter" out as "Netjer, in lieu of the "vowel-less" notation as done in hieroglyphics? but such is usually denoted by the alphabetic "j" as opposed to "g".


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quote:
Originally posted by NeferKemet:

Yes, I would agree with your Ps statement...

I thought that might be the case.
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Nice thread.
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This is what you call the epitome of Ghetto scholarship LOL.

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"We",i.e. black people SEEM to be at a disadvantage whenever topics such as this come up. That is only because every time that we post, we do it in "their" language. I'm no linguistic expert but we all know that the definition of black in English as well as every other Indo-European language always has negative definitions. It is through this mindset that we are misled into thinking that this is a universal concept and not see it as the CULTURAL CONSTRUCT that it really is.

Look at the derisive condescending response that you get from Dirk8 and Afronut. Absolutely nothing intelligent to contribute to this thread.

This is just a lame attempt to detract from the idea that there were other symbolic definitions for black that do not adhere to the Eurocentric view.

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According to Bernal the word Niger is of Semitic origin and means water that flows in to sand..like the Niger supposedly does. also the word or name Simon or Simeon according to the same person sm3r to mean upper Egyptians.. flat nosed or in a more derisive term as a reference to monkeys. Sorry can't find the exact qoute as it is a very thick book,but if you guys find it please post it.
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quote:
According to Bernal the word Niger is of Semitic origin and means water that flows in to sand..like the Niger supposedly does. also the word or name Simon or Simeon according to the same person sm3r to mean upper Egyptians.. flat nosed or in a more derisive term as a reference to monkeys. Sorry can't find the exact qoute as it is a very thick book,but if you guys find it please post it.
I also remember reading something similar to this in Black Athena. I think he (Bernal) also said that the word may have ultimately derived from the name of a West African people who were renowned for their skill in the use of horses and chariots. They frequently raided Phoenician settlements and were also known for the beauty of their deep blackness. The name of this people was Negritai.
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Yes the Negritai..who raided the coast from the interior on horse back..I have always wondered if they are the same as the Garamentians
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This could well be a tie-in.. to the Agisymbans the Greco-Egyptians spoke about..and distantly connected to the Kemem-Bornu of a later era ..I am just guessing though not stating a fact.

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Brada Anansi wrote:
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Yes the Negritai..who raided the coast from the interior on horse back..I have always wondered if they are the same as the Garamentians

Brada I found this link to a previous discussion on ES.

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum8/HTML/002769.html

Djehuti wrote:
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I don't have any links, but the Garamantes is a civilization that was most likely Berber. The only known Berber script Tifinagh is a descendant of the Garamante script and is, interestingly enough, best preserved among the Tuareg nomads. It is highly likely that the Garamantes were Berbers, whether they were the white blonde-haired kind that Mazigh is so enthusiastic about is another story. Most Roman accounts describe the Garamantes as being of the same color as other Ethiopions particularly the Egyptians. One epithet the Romans had for them was 'Negritai'.


alTakruri would also be a great resource in answering this question.

BTW when you click on the link you'll note the presence of a remarkably idiotic poster using the name Horemheb. He's none other than the Seth animal who's now calling himself Hammer.

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Great discussion.
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Thanks for the link Apocolypse and the apperent confirmation.

Apocolypse;

Djheuti wrote
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Most Roman accounts describe the Garamantes as being of the same color as other Ethiopions particularly the Egyptians. One epithet the Romans had for them was 'Negritai'.

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NeferKemet wrote:

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THE WORD "N-G-R" (EN-JER) AFTER IT WAS CORRUPTED BY THE EUROPEANS

Niger = (Latin or Black/African pronounced "ni-ger.")

Nero = Italian for Black
Negre = French for Black
Negro = Spanish for Black
The English called Blacks "Moore" or "Black-a-Moore" before they began using the word
"Negro" to refer to Blacks. FROM THAT WORD CAME THE RACIAL EPITHET, "NIGG.."

Are there any Berber speakers that could (honestly) shed some insight onto the definitions positive or negative for their words for black? I'm new at this forum, but I find that there are a lot of folks that post with a wealth of information in spite of the unfortunate 'trolls' who try to ruin threads to get attention.
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I have had time to read older threads and I found a lot of good information.

Topic: Semitic: Afrasan or not?
Topic: Thoughts on various Egyptian language classifications
Topic: New E3b paper totally destroys East African "Caucasoid" myth


Are there any Berber speakers that could (honestly) shed some insight onto the definitions positive or negative for their words for black? I'm new at this forum, but I find that there are a lot of folks that post with a wealth of information in spite of the unfortunate 'trolls' who try to ruin threads to get attention.

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The Garamantes were not Berbers. They were more likely affiliated with or ancestral to the people called Djerma, Zarma, Gara, Gouramantche Ikaradin found across Africa. One of their branches were the Tidamensii which also links them to the Teda or Tibbu groups and Kamnuri who still ride their oxen backward like the Garamantians.

Beriberi, however, did come to live in the area of the Garamantes and were probably those called Nigritae and Pharusii along the Niger and in the Sahara. The word Gher and N'gher or Kura in the AfroAsiatic dialects means river. While the name Gara or Ahel Gara used by Berbers for peoples like the Teda-Krit, Ikaradan, Haratin, Koroma, Wakore, Gor'an, Wangara, Garama references the salt-trading, cultivators who were perhaps originally of Nilo-Saharan stock.

The Garamantes were not highly nomadic and built pyramids like people in Nubia to whom they were probably related.

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quote:
Originally posted by dana marniche:
The Garamantes were not Berbers. They were more likely affiliated with or ancestral to the people called Djerma, Zarma, Gara, Gouramantche Ikaradin found across Africa. One of their branches were the Tidamensii which also links them to the Teda or Tibbu groups and Kamnuri who still ride their oxen backward like the Garamantians.

Beriberi, however, did come to live in the area of the Garamantes and were probably those called Nigritae and Pharusii along the Niger and in the Sahara. The word Gher and N'gher or Kura in the AfroAsiatic dialects means river. While the name Gara or Ahel Gara used by Berbers for peoples like the Teda-Krit, Ikaradan, Haratin, Koroma, Wakore, Gor'an, Wangara, Garama references the salt-trading, cultivators who were perhaps originally of Nilo-Saharan stock.

The Garamantes were not highly nomadic and built pyramids like people in Nubia to whom they were probably related.

Dana again thanks for introducing me to this site. always a pleasure I think I will do a power point over this when school starts up
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Your welcome, St. Let me know if you need any other assistance.

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good info dana
in the quraishi arabic dialect nghr with the context of water means more water or big water

ونغر من الماء نغرا: اكثر

"nghr min al-maa nghraan"
gher -n- gher
from al-mhkm wal muheet al3dham

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i thought the fact the closest berber speakers(tuareg) call the nilo-saharan speakers ahel-gara

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quote:
Originally posted by Apocalypse:
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According to Bernal the word Niger is of Semitic origin and means water that flows in to sand..like the Niger supposedly does. also the word or name Simon or Simeon according to the same person sm3r to mean upper Egyptians.. flat nosed or in a more derisive term as a reference to monkeys. Sorry can't find the exact qoute as it is a very thick book,but if you guys find it please post it.
I also remember reading something similar to this in Black Athena. I think he (Bernal) also said that the word may have ultimately derived from the name of a West African people who were renowned for their skill in the use of horses and chariots. They frequently raided Phoenician settlements and were also known for the beauty of their deep blackness. The name of this people was Negritai.
Nigritae was the name the Romans (or Greek) gave them. Because they lived near the Nigris (Niger) River. The Niger was a corruption of the Berber name, the Gher-n-gher. It just meant River of Rivers.
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