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Mike111
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Mazigh - How are the Amazigh different from the phony Jew Zionists?

They are BOTH unrelated to the identity that they attempt to steal, and both use the same tactics.


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Real Hebrews.

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Websites of phony Hebrews.
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http://ddickerson.igc.org/judaica.html
http://www.religionfacts.com/judaism/history.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_Jewish_culture


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Real Berbers.


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Websites of phony Berbers.


http://www.mondeberbere.com/
http://amazigh.startkabel.nl/
http://berber.startkabel.nl/


At none of these sites do I see a Black face, so who are you trying to fool?

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quote:
Originally posted by alTakruri:


This is the end result of indigenous Africans of
the littoral consciously taking on European wives
over 1000s of years. A complete breakdown with an
identity crisis and a be-like complex.

^ THIS
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Why should I acknowledge an untruth. Unlike you
who call yourself a Berber, I'm neither a slave nor
a pet nor have I any conquerer.

If you think my facts wrong it's not me who's wrong
but the very Amazigh persons themselves who have
informed me and these Amazigh produced online citations.
They are the ones who are wrong according to you.


Not to convince you, since you obviously have
some kind of disinformative mission, but to pad
out my earlier reference from AmazighWorld an
activist source, I present the following.

quote:

While Westerners usually speak of Berbers, a word derived from the pejorative term of Barbarians, the people thus referred to call themselves Amazigh, the plural of which is Imazighen, meaning "free men."


from Agraw.com an Amazigh website dedicated to the Amazigh Culture

quote:

They have rejected the name "Berber" as a pejorative term deriving from the Latin word barbarus or "barbarian." Instead they use the overarching Tamazight term Imazighen, defined as "the free people."

from amazighroots.blogspot.com

quote:

The term “Berber” is actually of Greek origin (barbaros, -on) and was used by the Greeks to designate the foreign peoples speaking languages other than the so-called classical Greek.

... this same term (barba[ic]us,-a, -un, from which the term “Berberisc” also arises) was used by the Romans to designate the peoples in North Africa who did not speak Latin.

... When the Arabs arrived (670-800 A.D.) in the north of Africa, they kept the same name, adapting it to their language; ... “Al barbar” or “Al barbari” –its singular form– to designate the peoples, and “Al barbaria” to refer to their language.

... the word “Berber” is used by foreigners to refer to the inhabitants of the areas where the Amazigh language is spoken; needless to say, Amazigh-speakers do not use the term “Berber” to designate neither their people or their language, but it is a foreign imposition that they consider to a certain extent as inappropriate, as it causes confusion.

... Amazigh-speakers use their own term “amazighen”, a masculine noun meaning “the free men”, although the most widely used term is its feminine form –“tamazight”–, a term used by Amazigh-speakers to designate their language.

by Adil Moustaoui (PhD candidate Faculty of
Arts of the Universidad Autónoma de Madrid

If you equate the pejorative Berber to the name the
people use for themselves Amazigh, then your problem
is obvious and no amount of education on my part will
help you free your mind.
quote:

Most Kabyles today refer to themselves unproblematically
as either "Leqbayel" or "Berberes." "Amazigh" in contrast,
calls attention to itself as an ideological choice, signalling
that the speaker deliberately rejects perceived pejorative
associations
that Berber can carry and advocates a particular
political vision
of the Maghreb's future.



from
Jane E. Goodman

Berber culture on the world stage: from village to video

Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 2005
p.11

Sounds so familiar does it not Mazigh (or you
should now start using Berr for your tag because
as we see Mazigh does not fit you at all).

quote:
Originally posted by Mazigh:
@Altakruri,
You should know/acknowledge that Berber is another word for amazigh.

In your conception: Berber is the contrary of the Amazigh. Amazigh struggles for his identity, while the Berber is lazy Amazigh, Right?

If so, no:
See:
http://www.mondeberbere.com/ (Amazigh or Berber)
(it is translated as "amazigh world")

What is the difference between this:
http://amazigh.startkabel.nl/
http://berber.startkabel.nl/


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At least you see that Amazigh is the same as Berber. The difference (according to the quotes) is:
Amazigh is the real name, while the name is a pejoratif name. It is like "Black" and "Negro". Black is english, and Negro is portugaise or Spainish (i don't know). It only got the negatif cannotation, while it meant just black.

Mike, I found this (concerning the following pic):
Ces peintures rupestres trouvées à Tassili, au sud de l'Algérie (ci-contre), dans une région actuellement désertique et datées de plusieurs milliers d'années avant JC, peuvent nous permettes de nous imaginer à quoi pouvaient ressembler ces "femmes séduisantes".


It says that it dates several milleniums before C.:
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This following pic is of a Tamahou, they appeard in the third millenium b.c (2500 b.c?):
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Both predate the Sea people and the Vandals.

This comes from the Sahara:
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See also (those images are very ancient, it dates it times when the actual sahara was fertile, with lions and other animals, thus very old):
http://ennedi.free.fr/

This following (from that site) looks like the Ancient Libyans of the Egyptians:
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The sie is not whitecentric, but it only shows the ancient saharan arts.
You find here the black pastorals:
http://ennedi.free.fr/

It is not because the one is real and the other is fake. The saharan was a place of ethnic diversity. I hope you become more wise, and stop with labelling some as real and others as fake (not for my sake, but for you).

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quote:
Originally posted by homeylu:
Mazigh, out of curiosity, nothing more, is that you in the top photo standing between the walls?

You obviously missed the point in that photo, which was basically "blacks/afrocentrists should focus on the walls of zimbabwe and leave berbers and egyptians alone"
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