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The Recent Findings of Pineal Function and Physiology
Since light on this planet is regulated alternatively day and night (circadian), it would be easy to discern the relation of such cycles to the pineal and other glands. Indeed, this has been proven. [14] There are 24 hour cycles in the concentrations of serotonin (N-acetylserotonin - NAS) and melatonin in the pineal of the rat. There is also a 24 hour cycle in the conversion of the norepinephrine (one of the neurotransmitters needed for the functioning of the synaptic sites in he nervous system's soma) in the sympathetic nerves innervating in the pineal gland. "This rhythm persists in blinded rats and animals but is suppressed in normal rats by light. The same rhythm in norepinephrine turnover generates the rhythms in pineal indole-amines and N-acetyltranferase." [15]

There is a relationship between sex hormones and the light receptive quality of the epiphysis. It has been proposed that one function of the pineal in the rat is to serve as a neuroendocrine transducer, mediating the effects of environmental lighting on the gonads. [16] Accordingly information about lighting is perceived by the retina and nervous impulses are conveyed to the pineal gland by way of the sympathetic nerve. The pineal responds by altering its production of methoxyindoles, these enter the bloodstream and influence endocrine economy of the body. The methoxyindoles are synthesized by the pineal in the absence of light and presumably exert inhibitory effects on the gonads. [17]

Another curious feature of the pineal organ is the production of melatonin and serotonin. Serotonin is produced in the gut of the intestinal tract as well as the Pineal organ. Serotonin is another transmitter. It is one of the major four, this is, one of the commonest neurohumors.

The interesting thing about serotonin is its change over to melatonin which occurs chemically in the pineal gland. The pineal gland is the only area where this is done. This has direct significance to what happens to the larval stages of most amphibians. It is known as blanching. Larval forms of amphibians undergo a marked blanching when maintained for a time in darkness. A similar response is displayed by many fishes. [18] It is likely that blanching is due, in some measure, to a degree of decrease in MHS (a hormone) release in darkness, but for the most part it is believed that the principle effect results from the release of melatonin (N-acetyl-5-methoxytryptamine) from the pineal. [19]

This hypothetic scheme, advanced by Bagnara and supported by others [20] suggests that under conditions of darkness, the pineal is stimulated to release melatonin, presumably a pineal hormone, in the general circulation. [21] Melatonin exerts a profound contracting effect on dermal melanophores (pigment pores) leading to rapid blanching. [21] The involvement of the pineal in this response relates to two aspects of its physiology, light reception and endocrine function. [22] Morphologic and electrophysiologic studies have clearly established that the pineal can function as a photoreceptor, but its role as an endocrine organ is more obscure, despite the fact that circumstantial evidence strongly indicates that this is the case. [23]


ANTI-DEPRESSANT FACTS
By Charly Groenendijk
The Netherlands
Oct 9, 2001

The Serotonergic System, the Pineal Gland & Side-Effects of Serotonin Acting Anti-Depressants

The Disrupted Serotonin Cycle & The Malfunctioning Pineal Gland

The periodic altering of consciousness in sleep may be necessary for the maintenance of normal mental health, since only a few days of sleep deprivation will result in a seepage of hallucinatory phenomena into the waking state." -Tryptamines, Beta-carbolines and You.
Dr J.C. Callaway, Dept. of Pharmaceutical Chemistry, University of Kuopio, Finland


SSRI-AntiDepressants inhibit the re-uptake of serotonin into the firing synapse of the serotonergic neuron. As a result, more serotonin is fired continuously to the receiving dendrite which results in more serotonin in the synaptic cleft. Because of this continuous action, the natural cycle of serotonergic activity during daytime and serotonergic inactivity at night gets disrupted! Under the influence of the SSRI-AntiDepressant, the serotonergic system now works overtime, 24 hours a day. The implications of a disrupted serotonin cycle could be as follows:

What can happen, when the serotonergic system isn't cycling anymore, in a natural circadian rhythm, is that daily consciousness will shift closer and closer to the "dream state". The verge between reality and dreaming will gradually become blurred. The lack of rhythm is the cause. Under the influence of an SSRI-AntiDepressant, serotonin levels won't fluctuate anymore, but remain continuously high. Many SSRI-AntiDepressant users reported that they had problems to distinguish reality from dreaming when they woke up from a dream and that it took quiet some time to realize that they had been dreaming instead of experiencing something real.

Consciousness on the verge of Dreaming and Reality
We already know that an active serotonergic system suppresses REM sleep and thereby REM related dreaming. Our brains need to dream. Although we do not always remember our dreams, we are dreaming around 4 to 5 times every night. Only a few days of sleep deprivation (and thus dreaming) will cause the brain to hallucinate. To counteract the SSRI-AntiDepressant induced suppression of REM related dreaming, the brain litterly forces it's dreams upon us. This doesn't necessarily has to be a rebound of REM related dreaming triggered by the brainstem mechanisms (since an active serotonergic system suppresses these mechanisms), but could as well be induced by epileptic activity in the forebrain, triggering forebrain dreams or nightmares, as previously discussed. Most critical, when the normal brainstem REM mechanisms are not included in these forebrain dreams or nightmares, then they won't turn on the cells in the medulla that inhibit all motor activity. The implications of this contradictional dream sleep could be quiet dramatic.

Next to experiencing hallucinations, suppression of REM sleep can lead to an other serious disorder. On page 45 of her brilliant book "Prozac: Panacea or Pandora?", Doctor Ann Blake Tracy introduced us to the violent REM Sleep Behaviour Disorder, caused by psychoactive drugs such as SSRI-AntiDepressants. This condition means a sleepwalk nightmare wherein the patient acts out violent dreams while sleepwalking. The violent REM Sleep Behaviour Disorder is further discussed in chapter 7: "Sleep disorders, serotonin and the SSRI's" on page 182.

From SSRI-AntiDepressant induced "consciousness on the verge of dreaming and reality", it will be a very close step to SSRI-AntiDepressant induced "psychosis" or "hallucinatory psychosis", in which extremely lifelike dreams/nightmares become hallucinations and will be experienced for real! Many (former) SSRI-AntiDepressant users reported major perception changes, altered states of consciousness, a disturbed sense of reality and out of character behaviour. The symptoms vary from urges to spend money excessively, flamboyant/provocative behaviour, indifference and mania, till abnormal dream and thought patterns, racing thoughts, hearing voices or telepathic like thoughts and akathisia (an extreme mental state of inner restlessness). Also frequently reported is the feeling of living in a bubble, feeling possessed or living in a dream.

I questioned myself if it could be possible that the psychoactive serotonin derivatives, which are thought to be secreted by the Pineal Gland, could play a (secondary) role in these reported altered states of consciousness and behaviour. Under the influence of an SSRI-AntiDepressant, serotonin levels in the Pineal Gland could increase to excessive, possibly even toxic amounts. Although I had to revise my previous hypothesis regarding increased melatonin levels in the eyes (melatonin levels didn't increase under the influence of an SSRI-AntiDepressant), this time I found more support for the hypothesis that certain serotonin derivatives, like the psychoactive tryptamines DMT, 5-MeO-DMT and Bufotenine, could very well increase on account of an SSRI-AntiDepressant.



SEROTONIN & THE PINEAL GLAND


Pineal Gland By Charly Groenendijk
The Netherlands
Oct 9, 2001


The Serotonergic System, the Pineal Gland & Side-Effects of Serotonin Acting Anti-Depressants -Part 2

Go to Serotonin & the Pineal Gland -Part 3
REFERENCE

The content of this article is based on and written in accordance with accepted theories in Bio-Psychiatry and should therefore be perceived as another theory.

Psychoactive substances, Serotonin and the Pineal Gland
Melatonin is not the only neurotransmitter made out of serotonin. Other serotonin derivatives which are psychoactive or mind altering are thought to be produced by the Pineal Gland. The necessary enzymes for the formation of these molecules exist in high concentrations in the Pineal Gland. By acute administration -either smoked or injected into the bloodstream- of one of these serotonin derivatives, also known as tryptamines, humans will experience an altered state of consciousness, which can differ from "hypnogogic dream-like states" to full blown "hallucinatory psychosis." It is recently thought that these molecules are responsible for our dream imagery. They are, just like melatonin, released at night, prior to REM-sleep and interact within the central nervous system. DMT (Di-Methoxy-Tryptamine) and 5-MeO-DMT (5-Methoxy-Tryptamine) are such tryptamines and serotonin derivatives. They can produce colour imagery, out of body(like) experiences, lucid dreams, visions of beings and/or animals, mystical states, subjective "other realities" as well as experiences of "being somewhere else." DMT and 5-MeO-DMT can be extremely frightening when smoked or injected for the first time.

Another psychoactive serotonin derivative produced by the Pineal Gland is called Pinoline, also known as 6-Methoxy-Tetra-Hydro-Beta-Carboline (6-Methoxy-THBC). Pinoline is not a tryptamine but a beta-carboline. It is similar to harmaline, an extract from the psychoactive plants Banisteriopsi Caapi and Psycotria Viridis in the Amazonian Rain Forest. Harmaline is the active ingredient in a psychedelic cocktail called "Ayahuasca." It is used by Indian tribes and shamans to communicate with the spirits telepathically while they "dream awake."

Also a very interesting molecule is Bufotenine, also known as 5-Hydroxy-Dimethyl-Tryptamine (5-HDT). Although bufotenine is both a serotonin derivative and a tryptamine it is not established yet if it is produced by the Pineal Gland. It also occurs naturally in humans but in very small amounts. In higher amounts it becomes highly toxic. Bufotenine also derives from the dermal substance of a toad. The Shamans of the ancient Maya ingested bufotenine on special ceremonies. It would turn the user into a "mouthpiece for the gods." The effects seem as being possessed by an evil spirit.

Apparently this is not the only neuro damage caused by SSRI-AntiDepressants. In a recent study, researchers saw marked changes in the axon terminals (nerve endings) of serotonergic neurons in rats, treated with SSRI-AntiDepressants. The terminals shrivelled or took on corkscrew shapes. These changes were similar to those observed with the serotonin booster drug "Ecstasy" (MDMA). In studies with baboons who were treated with Ecstasy, researchers used Positron Emission Tomography (PET) to take brain scans of them. The researchers found that Ecstasy was toxic to the brain and damaged the axon terminals (nerve endings) of serotonergic neurons. This damage was still present in the baboons 7 years after discontinuing the drug. Later studies in humans who had used Ecstasy, documented the same damage at serotonergic neurons as observed with the baboons. Likewise, the SSRI-AntiDepressant induced brain damage observed in the rats, could be present in humans as well.

Previously we discussed that an SSRI-AntiDepressant induced hyper-active serotonergic system, could lead to disruption of the circadian (daily) serotonin cycle and excessive amounts of serotonin in the Pineal Gland. Another dangerous situation occurs when a hyperactive serotonergic system causes a condition called the "Serotonin Syndrome." This is a serious life threatening condition which needs immediate and adequate treatment.

An under-active serotonergic system will be a result of (1)the damaged axon terminals at the firing part of the serotonergic neuron and/or (2)the eliminated receptors at the dendrites of the receiving part of the serotonergic neuron. When discontinuing an SSRI-AntiDepressant, serotonergic activity dramatically decreases because the neurons aren't able to communicate properly with each other anymore. As a result of this decreased serotonergic activity, side-effects occur, which are falsely defined as "withdrawal side-effects."

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It's good to have a certain amount of crazy people in a society.

You find that many of the great geniuses and innovators have had mental problems.

Without that you don't get anywhere.


I should know, I'm certifiably insane

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^LOL! the lioness.

Anyhow, OP, when has the African sub saharaner conducted an orchestra in his history? Do they write music? What is the name of their music script? Where are the advance instruments, besides the rudimentary percussions? Oh where, oh where, are those highly evolved Saharaner musicians? I will tell you where... they never existed nor do they.

Don't even get me started on dancing and realism art and sculpture.

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^ Ted Bundy felt exactly the same.
Following his execution, Whites felt his insanity was an important part of overall white mental illnesses, so they chopped off his head and kept it in a jar for future study.

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The following is not classified as insane:

Many people in Tanzania — and across Africa, for that matter — believe albinos have magical powers. They stand out, often the lone white face in a black crowd, a result of a genetic condition that impairs normal skin pigmentation and strikes about 1 in 3,000 people here. Tanzanian officials say witch doctors are now marketing albino skin, bones and hair as ingredients in potions that are promised to make people rich.

In Kenya an albino woman was hacked to death in late May, with her eyes, tongue and breasts gouged out.

In early May, Vumilia Makoye, 17, was eating dinner with her family in their hut in western Tanzania when two men showed up with long knives.
The men sawed off Vumilia’s legs above the knee and ran away with the stumps.

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^The Lioness, you do not know what is insanity. The value of human life does not have to be taught. It is innate in mentally healthy humans. When there exists a psychological obstruction to one holding to this value, what results are the psychotic behaviors one exhibits towards another human, i.e., hacking albinos to death, gouging eyes, tongues, and breasts and sawing off legs. Any person, in the 21st. century, committing these acts, then they can be classified as insane. Tanzanians, for the better part, are insane people.
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quote:
Originally posted by Gigantic:
^The Lioness, you do not know what is insanity. The value of human life does not have to be taught. It is innate in mentally healthy humans. When there exists a psychological obstruction to one holding to this value, what results are the psychotic behaviors one exhibits towards another human, i.e., hacking albinos to death, gouging eyes, tongues, and breasts and sawing off legs. Any person, in the 21st. century committing these acts, they can be classified as insane. Tanzanians are insane.

there are degrees of mental illness, some have a lighter case
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^Theirs ranks up there (I mean geez! Hacking people to death because they're albino?! WTF?!).

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quote:
Originally posted by Wally:

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
kudos to Bruce and Billy Joel.


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^You are drifting, wrong thread. A sure sign of mental defect.

Don't like Bruce, your loss.
Billy like Dylan is a poet, open your mind.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^You are drifting, wrong thread. A sure sign of mental defect.

Don't like Bruce, your loss.
Billy like Dylan is a poet, open your mind.

If you don't like Bruce Springsteen why did you say:

"kudos to Bruce and Billy"

when you only gives kudos to Billy Joel?

you're not lying again are you?

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Lioness - Your reading comprehension problems are increasing. Does this have something to do with what I did to you in the Albino thread?
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quote:
Originally posted by MelaninKing:
The Recent Findings of Pineal Function and Physiology


quote:
Originally posted by Gigantic:
^LOL! the lioness.

Anyhow, OP, when has the African sub saharaner conducted an orchestra in his history? Do they write music? What is the name of their music script? Where are the advance instruments, besides the rudimentary percussions? Oh where, oh where, are those highly evolved Saharaner musicians? I will tell you where... they never existed nor do they.

Don't even get me started on dancing and realism art and sculpture.

I wonder what happened to the rhythm of the guy at no. 2:29-2:39 in this video of Arabians?

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=ovcI8l22498&feature=related

Insane or not, I would say something is definitely lacking here. Hmm... I wonder why?
LOL! [Razz] [Wink]

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Albino child's dance moves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP3wRuMarPg

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Real dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbPZpbQzfW8&feature=related

Can you find this level of harmonious dance in Africa? No. What you find is chimping-out dancing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYCchN8M0o0 [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Gigantic:
Real dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbPZpbQzfW8&feature=related
...

African origins of Tango:

http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ACAW_enCA308CA308&q=african+origin+of+tango


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Yo gay boy, better chill
or I will find some pills
to cure your ills...

Melanotan-II??? To keep your rod
a bit stiffer for your pink hoe... [Big Grin]

http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ACAW_enCA308CA308&q=african+origin+of+tango

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Gigantic - Your ignorance and just general stupidly amazes me! Talk about dumb White Boys.

Get it through your head fool, White people invented NOTHING!!!!!


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Egyptian Trumpet

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Un-fvcking believable! Any arsehole can put up some nonsense fake origin info on the web. I will do the same shyt you did but, instead, i am going to punch "chinese" in the search engine, for the origin of tango. Go look at the results, idiot -

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ACAW_enCA308CA308&q=chinese+origin+of+tango&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Chinese nutcases are claiming the tango originated in their culture (LOL). Go fvck yourself clown.


quote:
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African origins of Tango:

http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ACAW_enCA308CA308&q=african+origin+of+tango


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^Damn boy, are you really THAT stupid?

What I posted are called ancient ARTIFACTS.

You know, the stuff that you find in MUSEUMS!!!!

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^Arsehole, I quoted Ironlion, not you. In any event, to address your post... I am not wasting my time with you. You posted nothing African or Black. In your delusional mind, anything of color is Black. Go jump off a damn bridge! You are a nuisance.
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^Oops, sorry, I didn't understand.

So only Blacks in Africa are really Black.

Well okay, but isn't Egypt in Africa.

BTW - You live in America - right?

The fact that you don't live in Europe means that you are really not White. Oh, you sneaky dog, I get it. You're going to claim that you are not an Albino because you're not really White, because you don't live in Europe.

Brilliant!

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
So only Blacks in Africa are really Black.

Nowwww you are starting to catch on. Good for you!


quote:

Well okay, but isn't Egypt in Africa.

Yes but not all Africans are Black! Blacks can be found mainly in sub saharah; west, central and south Africa.

quote:

BTW - You live in America - right?

Yes.


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The fact that you don't live in Europe means that you are really not White.

Listen you black ass turd, I already told you, I AM BLACK!
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quote:
Originally posted by Gigantic:
Real dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbPZpbQzfW8&feature=related

Can you find this level of harmonious dance in Africa? No. What you find is chimping-out dancing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYCchN8M0o0 [Big Grin]

Excuse me but tango comes from the Afro-Argentinians.

Thankfully I was lucky enough to attend a lecture on Tango at the Natural History Museum in New York in the 1990s where someone talked about where it is derived.

Chimp this out:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zWbYCJet3XsJ:www.indyweek.com/indyweek/the-blackness-of-tango/Content%3Foid%3D1197334+tango+comes+from+african&cd=1&hl=en&ct=cl nk&gl=us

You really shouldn't have gone there. Keep hope alive though. [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
Albino child's dance moves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP3wRuMarPg

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Wow - that little girl dances wonderfully. She could certainly teach me a few things. Thankfully like many European parents hers are teaching her the beauty of music and dance and culture from the Congolese and black Africa, which is more than I can say for people in America.

Here she is being interviewed. Congolese style is not easy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=_6p8cURugV0&feature=related

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quote:
Originally posted by dana marniche:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness:
[qb] Albino child's dance moves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP3wRuMarPg

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Wow - that little girl dances wonderfully. She could certainly teach me a few things. Thankfully like many European parents hers are teaching her the beauty of music and dance and culture from the Congolese and black Africa, which is more than I can say for people in America.

Here she is being interviewed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=_6p8cURugV0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=dJy4uDkxX0A&playnext_from=TL&videos=cIT2Dcq_Sew
Congolese style isn't easy Lioness, you should learn the beauty of African culture and dance rather than spend time listening to nutty people.

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^rflol!!! please show me an Afrikan dance that is remotely close to Tango. I swear, yall go beyond being unbearable to freegin outright comical LOL! Everything is Black in origin, huh? No culture has anything original. They all stole it from the nigger (LOL).

Let me guess, moving your foot forward is wholly African in origin, thus Tango, which would require moving the foot forward at times, is African in origin. YALL THE BOMB (LOL)!!!!!!

I am feverishly awaiting a video link illustrating an African dance showing the African origin of the Tango.

Ball is in your court. You put your foot in your mouth. I don't want to read made-up revisionist shyt. Post up the video footage.

RFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Now we know where the Brazilian woman get their beautiful bodies and rhthym from - their African ancestors - they are proud to claim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=6dGow8eYMNA&feature=related

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quote:
Originally posted by Gigantic:
^rflol!!! please show me an Afrikan dance that is remotely close to Tango. I swear, yall go beyond being unbearable to freegin outright comical LOL! Everything is Black in origin, huh? No culture has anything original. They all stole it from the nigger (LOL).

Let me guess, moving your foot forward is wholly African in origin, thus Tango, which would require moving the foot forward at times, is African in origin. YALL THE BOMB (LOL)!!!!!!

I am feverishly awaiting a video link illustrating an African dance showing the African origin of the Tango.

Ball is in your court. You put your foot in your mouth. I don't want to read made-up revisionist shyt. Post up the video footage.

RFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh yu mean the holding hands part. No - silly thats not your folk. That comes from China. Keep hope alive though. [Wink]
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^I'm waiting for the video. RFLOL!!!!!!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by dana marniche:
Now we know where the Brazilian woman get their beautiful bodies and rhthym from - their African ancestors - they are proud to claim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=6dGow8eYMNA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=MISj_n-5YHs&feature=related
Maybe just a little too proud to be African but proud nevertheless. [Smile]

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All over South America like in Spain, Ireland and North Africa wherever black Africans have been - you will find they heavily influenced music and dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=-pct_j643-k&feature=related
AfroPeruvian dance and music

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Dravidian Albino

Listen you black ass turd, I already told you, I AM BLACK!

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He he - You USED to be Black!

Hahahahaha

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dana, you are looking really bad. But, I will give you a chance to redeem yourself. You said: "Excuse me but tango comes from the Afro-Argentinians." Man-up and retract the statement.

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quote:
Originally posted by Gigantic:
dana, you are looking really bad. But, I will give you a chance to redeem yourself. You said: "Excuse me but tango comes from the Afro-Argentinians." Man-up and retract the statement.

I know you think you invented the Lindy hop and Lambada too - but think again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AfTl5Vg73A&NR=1

You have the Waltz and Polka. I think. Actually there is no way Africans could have created such dances so be happy. And I am not a man so they''ll be no Manning up or anything of that sort. [Wink]

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Why not just pass this Euronut "Gigantic" in with the rest of the White Supremist Groups, wouldnt this clown fit right in?
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quote:
Originally posted by Gigantic:
dana, you are looking really bad. But, I will give you a chance to redeem yourself. You said: "Excuse me but tango comes from the Afro-Argentinians." Man-up and retract the statement.

You have been given the links that show scholars believe that Tango comes from the African of the Argentine barrios. Just like Bomba, Afro Cubano, Lambada, Conga, and almost any other dance ending with a vowel Tango is derived mostly from the African in America. PERIOD!
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quote:
Originally posted by Gigantic:
^I'm waiting for the video. RFLOL!!!!!!!!

*Sigh*


And like always we are waiting for the proof that your white master invented the Tango! As in any debate you enter, we know you will never man-up with nothing other than your useless opinion!


So when are you going to man-up? As you put it!

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^^You disappoint me. I am deeply saddened at your lack of knowledge of dance history. The African slaves picked up the partner dance style from the European [Portugese] slave master, hence, your LAMBADA. African dance has always been tribal. Never in the history of Africa was there paired dancing until the Europeans introduced it to them.

You are completely oblivious to the history of Dance. Next, you will tell me ballet originates in Africa *shrugs*

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What a bunch of idiots. Are there African influences in Tango? Yes. Does influence equate to origin? This is where you ASSHOLES get it twisted. In your desperation to own everything, influence to you means origin. I have grown tired of this topic. It is time for my exit.

I think this thread will serve as ridicule and a testament to the Afrocentric madness and folly, and the lengths Afroloons will go to to hijack culture.

Adieu!

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*Sigh*

And like always we are waiting for the proof that your white master invented the Tango! As in any debate you enter, we know you will never man-up with nothing other than your useless opinion!


So when are you going to man-up? As you put it! [/QB]


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http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=NI1j29Ywm9M&feature=related
ancient womens dance of the Somali

The above video of women from Somalia (known as "Berbers" to the Greeks) shows the influence of Berbers i.e. East Africans in North Africa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73vCpchmfaM
Kabyle women dance

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Now I know what I am dealing with -- a mentally challenged person.


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The above video of women from Somalia (known as "Berbers" to the Greeks)


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quote:
Originally posted by Gigantic:
^^You disappoint me. I am deeply saddened at your lack of knowledge of dance history. The African slaves picked up the partner dance style from the European [Portugese] slave master, hence, your LAMBADA. African dance has always been tribal. Never in the history of Africa was there paired dancing until the Europeans introduced it to them.

You are completely oblivious to the history of Dance. Next, you will tell me ballet originates in Africa *shrugs*

If African dance is tribal just remember its not yours. And don't forget the pair dancing came from China to Europe - like I said, just like the slave trade was brought to you by the Moors. Keep hope alive though. [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by Gigantic:
Now I know what I am dealing with -- a mentally challenged person.


quote:
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The above video of women from Somalia (known as "Berbers" to the Greeks)


why pretend you know something about history when you are challenged by it. Pick up the book by an ancient Greek and find out in The Periplus of the Eritraean Sea what people of Somalia were called. And don't project your nuttiness and racism on to me. [Roll Eyes]

Then go back to stormfront. There missing you over there, administrator.

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^You can keep the tribal dancing. I am entertained enough watching apes and chimps thrust their pelvics, girate their hips and shake their asses on the discovery channel.

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quote:
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What a bunch of idiots. Are there African influences in Tango? Yes. Does influence equate to origin? This is where you ASSHOLES get it twisted. In your desperation to own everything, influence to you means origin. I have grown tired of this topic. It is time for my exit.

I think this thread will serve as ridicule and a testament to the Afrocentric madness and folly, and the lengths Afroloons will go to to hijack culture.

Adieu!

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*Sigh*

And like always we are waiting for the proof that your white master invented the Tango! As in any debate you enter, we know you will never man-up with nothing other than your useless opinion!

So when are you going to man-up? As you put it!

[/QB]
Unfortunately Gigantic equates holding hands and walking with dancing as should be expected Jari. So of course we can give that to him. LOL!But Tango isn't about that and wouldd not exist without the African in America, like most music and dance. Next thing he'll be saying is Africans don't have rhythm.
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^Still waiting for anything remotely resembling Tango in Africa. Afterall, it originated with Africans LOL!!!!

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quote:
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^You can keep the tribal dancing. I am entertained enough watching apes and chimps thrust their pelvics, girate their hips and shake their asses on the discovery channel.

Thank you for your permission. Now you keep doing what you want to do, sit on the couch without picking up a book, and we'll keep doing our tribal thing.

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Like we've been doing thousands of years. Why take down your post about us tribals, Small antic.

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Boy - it turns out we don't just look alike we all dance alike too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbedT1WYTj4
Woman dance - Fiji

I've had just about enough of this gyrating, right Gi. Moving those big hips back and forth like some kind of tribal, especially with those chanting jungle bunnies in the background. Worse yet how dare they claim to have come from Africa!

Oops more tribalism from Fiji.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=XhVBGTJTA8s&feature=related

Now didn't I just see some of their moves somewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP3wRuMarPg

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Gigantic just let this one go son!! this is common knowledge to all who studied dance the dance was created in Argentina by by Slave descendant Africans
actually it didn't involve women in the beginning it is essentially a dance of domination or duel.well I guess common knowledge is not so common.
Another dance that has at it's root violence is Capoeira
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http://www.orlandotopazio.com/
click link
Think of the tango as being in the same vain.

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quote:
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^Still waiting for anything remotely resembling Tango in Africa. Afterall, it originated with Africans LOL!!!!

Albinus cannot dance
cannot jump...
nor hump! No never
not now and not ever.. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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