Any Comments Mazie, Why are your brothers in Lybia denying their African Heritage??
It seems we are not alone in claiming Arabs took over North Africa.
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Any thinking man knows that these people are Arab(Turks) invaders and occupiers.
I am curious to see what is happening to the south of these countries. All the "action"/coverage seems to be taking place in the north ie coast.
Any youTube links?
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^Well, the coast is where the cities are located, at least on the Northern half of the Sahara, while the South is where the desert and its rollin' tumble weeds are at.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Any thinking man knows that these people are Arab(Turks) invaders and occupiers.
I am curious to see what is happening to the south of these countries. All the "action"/coverage seems to be taking place in the north ie coast.
Any youTube links?
The South will never get coverage just as the Media did not cover the protests in Aswan Egypt revealing Egypt's oppressed and ridiculed Original population..
The Media won't show the beatings of innocent Black Lybians by the now Professing Arab populations.
Now that Ghaddafi is falling expect a Turn toward Arab-centric, Pro Islamist Anti-African rhetoric and continued discrimination aganst the original population in Lybia, Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, and Mauritania the so called "Arab World" to people who flunked Geography.
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Morzouk is a walled town, containing about 2500 inhabitants, who are blacks, and who do not, like the Arabs, change their residence. . . . The town has seven gates, four of which are built up in order to prevent the people escaping when they are required to pay their duties. A man is appointed by the Sultan to attend each of these gates, day and night, lest any slaves or merchandize should be smuggled into the town. . . . Many palms grow in the town. . . . The street of entrance is a broad space of at least a hundred yards, leading to the wall that surrounds the castle, and is extremely pretty: here the horsemen have full scope to display their abilities when they skirmish before the Sultan. The castle itself is an immense mud building, rising to the height of eighty or ninety feet, with little battlements on the walls (a fancy of the present Sultan’s); and at a distance looks warlike. Like all the other buildings, it has no pretensions to regularity: the lower walls are fifty or sixty feet in thickness; the upper taper off to about four or five feet. In consequence of the immense mass of wall, the apartments are very small, and few in number. The rooms occupied by the Sultan are of the best quality, (that is to say, comparatively), for the walls are tolerably smooth, and white-washed, and have ornamental daubs of red paint in blotches, by way of effect. His couch is spread on the ground, and his visitors squat down on the sandy floor at a respectful distance; we, however, were always honoured by having a corner of the carpet offered to us.
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While the Libyans are mostly Arabized Berbers, I did never claimed they consider themselves Arabs. They believe that the Arabs are a master race or better said a "holy/sherifian" race. The names they have like "zentan" or "warfala" which are the old names of Berber tribes are nothing to them.
Berber in libya are today in the touareg domain and Nefusa mountain and Zuwara..
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: they are Arab Africans
just like if someone who lives in America says they are Chinese it doesn't mean they are denying they are also American
"Arab" is a culture. "Africa" is a large geographic location
"Arab" is a culture.
Lioness, why are you so stupid? Arabia is a geographic PLACE! I can prove it, here it is on the map. Idiot! Posts: 22721 | Registered: Oct 2005
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Mike stop frothing at the mouth, it's a geographic area and a culture which stems out of that geographic area
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Any Comments Mazie, Why are your brothers in Lybia denying their African Heritage??
It seems we are not alone in claiming Arabs took over North Africa.
they are Arab Africans
just like if someone who lives in America says they are Chinese it doesn't mean they are denying they are also American
"Arab" is a culture. "Africa" is a large geographic location
Thats B.S, The Chinese did not invade our culture and place some B.S China-centric culture on us. Chinese assimilate learn the language, eat out foods, learn about American history, etc. These Arabs are invaders that are known to oppress the Natives and to deface African Monuments and culture.
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^ The question is when are YOU?? It has been explained to you countless times that not all the light-skinned peoples of the Middle East and North Africa are "Turks". Many light-skinned people are not of Turkish descent at all but peoples from around the Caucasus, northern Syria, and Iran.
As to Jari, of course you realize that the ethno-political situation in Libya is no different from Egypt and other North African countries.
To Mazigh, here goes your non-Arabized Nafusa Berbers of Libya:
Of course if these people were caught in Tripoli, they would be accused of being "African mercenaries" and attacked by the 'Arab' mob. How disgusting!
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Any Comments Mazie, Why are your brothers in Lybia denying their African Heritage??
It seems we are not alone in claiming Arabs took over North Africa.
they are Arab Africans
just like if someone who lives in America says they are Chinese it doesn't mean they are denying they are also American
"Arab" is a culture. "Africa" is a large geographic location
Thats B.S, The Chinese did not invade our culture and place some B.S China-centric culture on us. Chinese assimilate learn the language, eat out foods, learn about American history, etc. These Arabs are invaders that are known to oppress the Natives and to deface African Monuments and culture.
^^^^this statement is extremely contradictory.
Obviously the language you refer to is English and the assimilation you refer to is to the European culture, the people who invaded America. So in this context we are then not Americans and don't belong here, only the Indians do.
The Arabs took control of Libya 965 years before the first English colony was established in America (642-1551 AD)
But the colonization of Libya by people from outside of Africa begins with the Phoenicians (around Lebanon/Syria/Israel) 5th cent BC
the Phoenicians and Carthaginians, the armies of Alexander the Great and his Ptolemaic successors from Egypt, then Romans, Vandals, and local representatives of the Byzantine Empire ruled all or parts of Libya. The territory of modern Libya had separate histories until Roman times, as Tripoli and Cyrenaica.
Phoenician Libya (5th cent BC)
Roman Libya(146 BC-642 AD.)
Arab Libya (642–1551)
Ottoman Libya (1551–1911)
Italian Libya (1911–1951)
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The Jabal Nafusa participated in the revolts against Arab rule, the most ferocious of which took place in 896 AD. More recently the Berbers looked for the creation of a semi-autonomous Berber province. They were a favored group under the Italian occupation and hoped that on independence their cultural separateness would be acknowledged and their language given equal status with Arabic. But the rise of Arab nationalism forestalled this and the revolution of 1969 set back Berber aspirations. For some time the government refused to admit there was any such group as the Berbers. Despite the rapid economic changes the Berbers still keep a sense of cultural separateness and even superiority. There is a movement among some for more recognition of their culture and language. There is a sense of repression due to lack of freedom of the press and prohibition of publications in Tamazight, as well as writings about their history and culture.
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The Arabs took control of Libya 965 years before the first English colony was established in America (642-1551 AD)
Then the English established a colony before Columbus's so-called "discovery" of America? A true novice in world history.
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Obviously the language you refer to is English and the assimilation you refer to is to the European culture, the people who invaded America. So in this context we are then not Americans and don't belong here, only the Indians do.
My comment is not contradictory, go re-read your original statement to me about a Chinese person claiming to be Chinese American. We are talking about America and American culture not about the English so called invasion of America.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ The question is when are YOU?? It has been explained to you countless times that not all the light-skinned peoples of the Middle East and North Africa are "Turks". Many light-skinned people are not of Turkish descent at all but peoples from around the Caucasus, northern Syria, and Iran.
As to Jari, of course you realize that the ethno-political situation in Libya is no different from Egypt and other North African countries.
To Mazigh, here goes your non-Arabized Nafusa Berbers of Libya:
Of course if these people were caught in Tripoli, they would be accused of being "African mercenaries" and attacked by the 'Arab' mob. How disgusting!
Excellent point. Only a retard would not see how nonsensical that whole situation is.
Any Comments Mazie, Why are your brothers in Lybia denying their African Heritage??
It seems we are not alone in claiming Arabs took over North Africa.
they are Arab Africans
just like if someone who lives in America says they are Chinese it doesn't mean they are denying they are also American
"Arab" is a culture. "Africa" is a large geographic location
Thats B.S, The Chinese did not invade our culture and place some B.S China-centric culture on us. Chinese assimilate learn the language, eat out foods, learn about American history, etc. These Arabs are invaders that are known to oppress the Natives and to deface African Monuments and culture.
when the Zulu took over other regions that were not Zulu those other regions became both Zulu and could also be referred to by earlier region identifying names. If the Chinese were to invade Canada, become a majority and settle there they would become Canadians of Chinese heritage
Ancient nomads in Libya did not call themselves Libyans. Libyans are whoever issues the passport and has the army.
You can claim that light skinned people are native to the area but you can't say they are not Libyans. Libya is a national name coming out of Libu.
The point is outsiders the Phoenicians and Carthaginians, the armies of Alexander the Great and his Ptolemaic successors from Egypt, then Romans, Vandals, and local representatives of the Byzantine Empire ruled all or parts of Libya before the Arabs even set foot
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The Arabs took control of Libya 965 years before the first English colony was established in America (642-1551 AD)
Then the English established a colony before Columbus's so-called "discovery" of America? A true novice in world history.
Arabs took control of Libya 642 AD Columbus reaches America 1492
First English colony in America Jamestown settlement, Virginia 1607
965 years prior to the first English colony in America the Arabs invaded Libya
1607-642 = 965
You klutz, I was referring to your fantastic dating for an English colony in America, which in effect place the English colony well before Columbus' arrival in America. Instead of humbly accepting your error, you try to save face with some subtraction gobbledygook.
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