I advise everybody watch the video. It gives you insight into the right wing and how it might become more active in European and possibly American politics.
The situtaion is a bit differrent. England is tiny compared to America. In propotion to that area there are a lot more muslims. But maybe there is something to learn from this as austerity measures set in. Traditional scapegoats have been blacks and Jews but there is a new dynamic now. Some of these right wing groups in Europe are toning down their rhetoric on Jews. This is simply demographics. Over the past years it is the Muslim population that has increased and have assimilated only partially. Add to this austerity measures and you have ethnic tension, competeing groups. Another recent example, the Oslo bomber attempting to punish liberals for immigration policies on Arabs and N. African Muslims.. Add to this poor black people another competing group. Stike the match with a police shooting and you get a riot. Interestingly the Muslims weren't a part of this. Unlike in France and the Netherlands the Muslims in England tend to be Saudis who are more middle and upper middle class. What the right wing didn't predict is that all those young white people took over the riot, they became the majority of rioters. What's the situtaion in America? The immigrant group in America that some Americans find threatening are Mexicans. But Mexicans do not have a radical political agenda and are not likely to riot in general. Muslims in America are a much smaller proportion. A black underclass however we do have in common with Britain. But here, even though sometimes police shoot black people under questionable circumstances or even an outright racial killing recently in Mississippi. It has not sparked rioting and in proportion to the population these things are rare. One factor in this is that we can be somewhat confident that the people that killed that man in Mississippi are probably going to do hard time and not beat the case as if this was the 1950s. So the ingredients for a race war are not there. Muslims have not been getting their terrorist acts in much lately and they would be very smart to stop doing it. If the economies continue to go down hill what appears may happen is that people who lose the most or people that feel have no future will riot. In England this turns out to be blacks and young white people. Some of these young white people, the ones that are better off may realize that they had their fun but it's not worth it. Remaining will be underclass whites and blacks. They will either face off with right wing groups of thugs or face off with a tougher police force using water cannons as they do in Northern Ireland. And if the roots causes of the economic problems are not fixed this may lead to more unrest and wars with other countries. However these problems may be impossible to fix. You can't really predict exactly what's going to happen.
David Cameron considers banning suspected rioters from social media PM says sites such as Twitter and Facebook 'can be used for ill' and that broadcasters should hand footage of riots to police
David Cameron has told parliament that in the wake of this week's riots the government is looking at banning people from using social networking sites such as Twitter and Facebook if they are thought to be plotting criminal activity.
The prime minister said the government will review whether it is possible to stop suspected rioters spreading online messages, in his opening statement during a Commons debate on Thursday on the widespread civil disorder for which MPs were recalled from their summer recess.
Answering questions after his statement, Cameron said the home secretary, Theresa May, will hold meetings with Facebook, Twitter and Research In Motion within weeks to discuss their responsibilities in this area. The prime minister also said that broadcasters – including the BBC and Sky News – have a responsibility to hand unused footage of the riots to police.
Past attempts to force broadcasters to hand over their footage have been met with fierce resistance. On Wednesday, the BBC's head of newsgathering, Fran Unsworth, said voluntarily giving unused footage to the police would damage broadcasters' editorial independence.
"Everyone watching these horrific actions will be struck by how they were organised via social media. Free flow of information can be used for good. But it can also be used for ill," said Cameron.
"And when people are using social media for violence we need to stop them. So we are working with the police, the intelligence services and industry to look at whether it would be right to stop people communicating via these websites and services when we know they are plotting violence, disorder and criminality.
"I have also asked the police if they need any other new powers."
"Police were facing a new circumstance where rioters were using the BlackBerry Messenger service, a closed network, to organise riots," he said. "We've got to examine that and work out how to get ahead of them."
The prime minister made the announcement as he vowed to do "whatever it takes" to restore order to the nation's streets after four nights of unprecedented civil unrest.
A move to disconnect potential rioters would mark a huge shift in Britain's internet policy, with free speech advocates likely to accuse the government of ushering in a new wave of online censorship.
Scotland Yard has made a string of arrests of people suspected of inciting the violence across England by using BlackBerry Messenger, Twitter and Facebook.
Cameron urged Twitter and Facebook to remove messages, images and videos that could incite more unrest across the country. "All of them should think about their responsibility and about taking down those images," he said.
"There was an awful lot of hoaxes and false trails made on Twitter and BlackBerry Messenger and the rest of it. We need a major piece of work to make sure that the police have all the technological capabilities they need to hunt down and beat the criminals."
Jim Killock, the executive director of online advocacy organisation Open Rights Group, said Cameron risked attacking the "fundamental" right of free speech.
"Events like the recent riots are frequently used to attack civil liberties. Policing should be targeted at actual offenders, with the proper protection of the courts," Killock added.
"How do people 'know' when someone is planning to riot? Who makes that judgment? The only realistic answer is the courts must judge. If court procedures are not used, then we will quickly see abuses by private companies and police. Companies like RIM must insist on court processes.
"Citizens also have the right to secure communications. Business, politics and free speech relies on security and privacy. David Cameron must be careful not to attack these fundamental needs because of concerns about the actions of a small minority."
Hampshire police on Wednesday arrested three people on suspicion of using Twitter and BlackBerry Messenger to incite violent disorder in Southampton. Those arrests are thought to be the first directly linked to the use of the popular BlackBerry instant messaging service. A number of arrests have been made of people suspected of inciting violence on Facebook.
David Lammy, the MP for riot-stricken Tottenham, on Tuesday appealed for the BlackBerry maker Research In Motion to shut off its BlackBerry Messenger service after claims that it played a key role in organising the unrest.
Research In Motion declined to comment.
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Everything in the video in 100% truth. Nick Griffin has been proven again and again correct.
As you said, England is only a small country. So why do millions of black, eastern europeans and asians immigrants arrive here every year taking our country over?
Britain is full up and we don't have room for immigrants. This is not racism, its common sense.
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^You are witnessing the collapse of the Western world. She is going the way of her predecessor, Rome. Interestingly, the fall of Rome gave rise to Christendom. Perhaps the fall of the West will lead to the much anticipated Kingdom of Heaven. Hmmmm...
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^^^^^ It didn't go down as cassertides predicted. The rioters turned out to be majority white kids. Muslims nowhere in sight.
The reason for that is that you have deeper problems with corruption and lack of opportunity generally than immigration. The proposal? Bring back manufacturing to GB ? And how will they compete in world markets then, the same products being produced cheaper in other parts of Europe due to the labor coming from the "third world" ?
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If there is going to be an economic collapse in America, you will see things happen very quickly. Riots will break out immediately in the inner cities but they won't and can't last more than 3 or 4 days. Because there will nothing else to loot after that time. These people will exhaust the local resources quickly without thinking. At this point if they are to survive, they will have to look for food outside of the cities and this is where they will fail miserably.
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