...
EgyptSearch Forums Post New Topic  Post A Reply
my profile | directory login | register | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» EgyptSearch Forums » Deshret » Race and fashion: Still an issue?

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Race and fashion: Still an issue?
TruthAndRights
Member
Member # 17346

Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for TruthAndRights     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Race and fashion: Still an issue?
By George Webster, for CNN

 -
Jamaican model Sosheba Griffiths (pictured) says that things are looking good for diversity in the fashion world.

(CNN) -- From designer John Galliano's anti-Semitic tirade to Vogue Italia's recent reference to "slave earrings" -- the fashion world is often, it seems, at the sharp end of the race debate.

In 2007, several of the world's black supermodels, including Naomi Campbell, Somalian-born Iman, and male model Tyson Beckford launched a campaign against race discrimination in the fashion industry.

Former model Bethann Hardison organized the campaign. A model in the 1970s, she later formed her own agency and helped launch the careers of both Campbell and Beckford.

She was quoted in the New York Times as saying, "Modeling is probably the one industry where you have the freedom to refer to people by their color and reject them in their work."

The following year, Vogue Italia published the "Black Issue" -- celebrating models of color from the past and present. The magazine sold out in the United States and Great Britain within 72 hours.

So how far has the industry changed since then? As Paris Fashion Week comes to a close, CNN spoke to two black women with two different experiences of the industry.

Sosheba Griffiths, 22, is a model from Kingston, Jamaica who was discovered on her way home from school, aged 16.

She moved to New York to launch her international career and has since worked with a long list of top designers including Roberto Cavalli, Vivienne Westwood and Diane von Furstenberg. She says things are looking good for models of all ethnicity.

Constance C.R. White is Editor-in-Chief of Essence magazine, a monthly title aimed at African-American women focusing on fashion, lifestyle and beauty. White acknowledges progress has been made, but says there's still a long way to go.

How far have things changed in the fashion industry since 2008?

Griffiths: There has definitely been a big improvement since 2008 ... After the all-black edition of Vogue Italia, we have seen the numbers of black models go up on catwalks, magazine shoots, adverts, everything.

Everyone is much more aware of it now. I think that in the last couple of years people feel OK to talk about race, to say there has been a problem and to try and change that.

White: Yes, there has been progress. Remember, there were no black models at all in the 30s and 40s and it was only as recently as the 1970s that we had the first black face on the cover of Vogue.But the change has not been anywhere near fast or dramatic enough.

Unfortunately, there a still hurdles to overcome. Even this year there were some shows in Milan that didn't have a single black model. More generally, there are fewer jobs for black and Asian women ... and even though there are and have been a number of big name black supermodels like Naomi Cambell, Tyra Banks and Iman -- you rarely see them together in the same shoot.

Are you concerned that the increased use of ethnically diverse models is just a fashion trend?

White: There is a tendency to see black models as part of a trend rather than as a blank canvass. Designers and editors will say a certain style "looks good" on a black person -- generally something bright and colorful -- but you'd never hear the same discussions around white models.

On top of this, the "black look" is defined narrowly within the fashion system. When an agency or designer says they want say, an "all American" look -- what does that mean? Do black models get sent on call for shoots like that? Mostly not.

Griffiths: Ethnic looks are much more fashionable now than they used to be ... You see a lot more really lovely African fabrics, traditional tribal colors, Indian jewelery and stuff like that.

But even if it started as a trend, I'm sure it's now something that is here to stay. The high-end designer clothes are getting more popular all over the world, not just Europe and America, so the designers will have to have models for all the different customers.

How does life differ for black models on a day-to-day basis?

White: Most white models are groomed for life in the fashion industry from a young age. An agent will invest resources so that they know how to dress, how to speak and how to behave on shoot. This type of thing doesn't often happen for black models, so they have a steeper learning curve and are more likely to feel like outsiders from the start.

Griffiths: I think maybe I was one of the lucky ones. When I started in 2006, I moved from Jamaica to New York and it was amazing -- but everything was new to me. My agency took me to Topshop to buy a new wardrobe, and they told me the kind of thing I should say in castings and everything I needed to know to do well.

From day-to-day there are some things that are different. When we do shoots, some of the makeup artists don't know what colors to use on our face or how to style our hair, and they maybe get a bit frustrated. But I don't get mad at them, I just try to help, I bring my own foundation and let them use that.


http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/07/living/fashion-industry-race/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Posts: 3446 | From: U.S. by way of JA by way of Africa | Registered: Jan 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
the lioness is a guy IRL
cassiterides banned yet again
Member # 18409

Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for the lioness is a guy IRL         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hideous woman. How on earth are they a model?
Posts: 2408 | From: My mother's basement | Registered: Dec 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Brada-Anansi
Member
Member # 16371

Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for Brada-Anansi   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
You don't even like women Cassizoid you from that don't ask don't tell possie so wadda u care!!

T&R like movie making and other industries black folks need to have their own parallel industries,why do you think Ebony,Jet and Essence were made, it was because they could find little if any representation of black middle class life style in white dominated magazine industries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTUf4Swb4z4
Despite Lioness objection I believe this brother is dead right.
 -
Btw she too mwaaga.. [Big Grin]

Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
the lioness is a guy IRL
cassiterides banned yet again
Member # 18409

Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for the lioness is a guy IRL         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Brada-Anansi:
[QB] You don't even like women Cassizoid you from that don't ask don't tell possie so wadda u care!!

You appear to have confused me with Egmond Codfried.

If you think the woman posted is attractive, then you must be blind. She does not look feminine. Black women don't have delicate features as their faces are generally robust or look like black men's. Its horrible. This is why in America, of all races, black woman are the least married and are virtually always single. No males are attracted to them.

Posts: 2408 | From: My mother's basement | Registered: Dec 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Brada-Anansi
Member
Member # 16371

Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for Brada-Anansi   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
No confusion here Cassizoid, Egmond will tell even if you dare not ask..

 -

But for me personally she too skinny wouldn't kick her to the curve though.. [Big Grin]

Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
the lioness,
Member
Member # 17353

Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for the lioness,     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
You appear to have confused me with Egmond Codfried.

If you think the woman posted is attractive, then you must be blind. She does not look feminine. Black women don't have delicate features as their faces are generally robust or look like black men's. Its horrible. This is why in America, of all races, black woman are the least married and are virtually always single. No males are attracted to them. [/QB]

why can't you respect the fact that some people, like myself, think black people are beautiful?
do you go around teeling people what falvor of ice cream they should eat. What's wrong with you?

Posts: 42936 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
IronLion
Member
Member # 16412

Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for IronLion     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Ass-rider is an animal lover!

He is into inter-specie sex... you know like donkeys and horses...

--------------------
Lionz

Posts: 7419 | From: North America | Registered: Mar 2009  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
kenndo
Member
Member # 4846

Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for kenndo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
That chick is really good looking.

Cassiterides you are so blind and a sick racist.GO AWAY.

Posts: 2688 | Registered: Jul 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
lamin
Member
Member # 5777

Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for lamin     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Cass,
I really don't pay attention to the fashion business at all. Just stupid posing before an equally stupid crowd--but you point about female phenotypical features is very suspect.

I have carefully studied the phenotypes of European females and must admit that they are really quite masculine--especially the Northern European types. The worst are the Brits: long horse faces with huge projecting noses and very prominent masculine chins. Quite unattractive on white females, I must admit. I see them all the time as they continuously traipse over to Africa--looking for whatever....

The only exception I see--including those from Southern Europe--are with Russian women--who whatever reasons have phenotypes that approximate the African.

Proof of my observations: rhinoplasty among European females has made a lot of cosmetic surgeons quite wealthy.

Posts: 5492 | Registered: Nov 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Khufu
Member
Member # 17461

Rate Member
Icon 1 posted      Profile for Khufu     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
Ass-rider is an animal lover!

He is into inter-specie sex... you know like donkeys and horses...

LMAO
Posts: 98 | From: U.S.A. | Registered: Feb 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code™ is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | EgyptSearch!

(c) 2015 EgyptSearch.com

Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3