I don't know Spanish unfortunately and would like the best translation from a native speaker. I think the paragraphs are saying these were orginally castles of the Zuwagha. The Zuwagha/Zawagha or Zaghawa or Zauge and Zuwaga as they are called today in Sudan and Chad live in Chad, Sudan and Libya extending to Niger and other Saharan countries. I know there is google translator but I want a Spanish speaker to translate.
These castles of Zawagha or Zaghawa are found throughout Spain evidently.
Entre sus monumentos destacan el castillo de Miramontes –relacionado con la tribu de los Zuwaga y luego Casa de la Encomienda, bajo la Orden de Santiago-, las ermitas de Nuestra Señora del Rosario y Nuestra Señora de la Aurora, las iglesias de Nuestra Señora de la Merced y del Cristo del Humilladero y, sobre todo, la parroquia de Nuestra Señora de la Consolación, el templo más grande de la provincia, tras la Catedral de Badajoz. Bien de Interés Cultural, la iglesia de Nuestra Señora de la Consolación se levantó a finales del siglo XV, principios del XVI. Responde a los últimos momentos del gótico, con influencias de “manuelino” y mezcla del incipiente renacimiento. Es, sin duda, uno de los más bellos y monumentales ejemplos de la arquitectura religiosa del sur de Extremadura.
CASTILLO DE MIRAMONTES (Monumentos de Azuaga)
El origen de esta fortaleza está relacionado con la tribu islámica de los Zuwaga, que desde el Norte de África se diseminaron por buena parte de la geografía peninsular. Su ubicación elevada y rocosa le otorgó posteriormente el nombre de Miramontes. Multitud de restos y fragmentos obtenidos de sus inmediaciones han sido piezas determinantes a la hora de desvelar sus secretos, aunque otras fuentes escritas también nos ofrecen constancia de la valía que tuvo el enclave.
On the "Zawagha" of Maghreb see Abun Nasr's History of the Maghreb in the Islamic period
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Now as I was saying.lol! OMG - I'm still laughing.
OK - Zawagha and Garawa or Wangara i.e. the Zaghawa and Zaghai/Soninke peoples must have left there mark all over Spain and Italy. If one googles them under the Arabized and Iberiacized forms of the name one will likely find many of them.
They must be the men that appear with the bands around their heads in so many depictions in Europe and with the star of David as well attached in the coat of arms.
Many of the original Zawagha appear to have been Jewish or Judaized people. There is some evidence that the original Zaghawa whoever they are riginally had some relationship to the ZiAgau of Ethiopia who founded the Zaghwe dynasty.
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The internet has leveled the playing field. Try Google translator. === Among its monuments include the castle of Miramontes-related Zuwaga tribe and then the Knights House, under the Order of Santiago, the shrines of Our Lady of the Rosary and Our Lady of the Dawn, the churches of Our Lady of Mercy and the Christ of the Shrine and, above all, the parish of Our Lady of Consolation, the largest temple in the province, after the Cathedral of Badajoz. Cultural Property, the church of Our Lady of Consolation arose in the late fifteenth, early sixteenth. Responds to the last moments of gothic-influenced "Manueline" and mixing the emerging renaissance. It is without doubt one of the most beautiful and monumental examples of religious architecture in the south of Extremadura.
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: The internet has leveled the playing field. Try Google translator. === Among its monuments include the castle of Miramontes-related Zuwaga tribe and then the Knights House, under the Order of Santiago, the shrines of Our Lady of the Rosary and Our Lady of the Dawn, the churches of Our Lady of Mercy and the Christ of the Shrine and, above all, the parish of Our Lady of Consolation, the largest temple in the province, after the Cathedral of Badajoz. Cultural Property, the church of Our Lady of Consolation arose in the late fifteenth, early sixteenth. Responds to the last moments of gothic-influenced "Manueline" and mixing the emerging renaissance. It is without doubt one of the most beautiful and monumental examples of religious architecture in the south of Extremadura.
Thanks but I said above I know Google has translation.
Now this doesn't sound exactly right does it say it was "related to the Zuwagha". I have to be absolutely certain.
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I also found out recently the Zuwagha according to specialists occupied not just southern Libya but the Tripolitanian coasts and founded Zawagha in the Sabratha area among other places.
Al Maqrisi places the Zaghawa in Barca as well. They must be the vassal tribes of the Sanhaja including the Kitama if we are to believe the Djamhara of Ibn Doraid.
I believe these people were represented by the people who had peppercorn hairstyles in north Africa in the Roman period.
Moors in Emperor Trajans Roman legion.
That is at least how Mauri were described in the neo Roman period - wearing their hair "curled with hot irons".
About the castle in the first post. I do believe this says something about its origin being with relation who the islamic tribe of the Zawaga.
"El origen de esta fortaleza está relacionado con la tribu islámica de los Zuwaga, que desde el Norte de África se diseminaron por buena parte de la geografía peninsular. Su ubicación elevada y rocosa le otorgó posteriormente el nombre de Miramontes."
Now one has to wonder what part the African and Himyarite castles and structures played in these early Moorish ones in Iberia.
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quote:Originally posted by dana marniche: I also found out recently the Zuwagha according to specialists occupied not just southern Libya but the Tripolitanian coasts and founded Zawagha in the Sabratha area among other places.
Al Maqrisi places the Zaghawa in Barca as well. They must be the vassal tribes of the Sanhaja including the Kitama if we are to believe the Djamhara of Ibn Doraid.
I believe these people were represented by the people who had peppercorn hairstyles in north Africa in the Roman period.
Moors in Emperor Trajans Roman legion.
That is at least how Mauri were described in the neo Roman period - wearing their hair "curled with hot irons".
About the castle in the first post. I do believe this says something about its origin being with relation who the islamic tribe of the Zawaga.
"El origen de esta fortaleza está relacionado con la tribu islámica de los Zuwaga, que desde el Norte de África se diseminaron por buena parte de la geografía peninsular. Su ubicación elevada y rocosa le otorgó posteriormente el nombre de Miramontes."
It says "The origin of this fortress is related to the Islamic Zuwaga tribe, who spread to a good part of the geography of the peninsula from North Africa. Because of its high and rocky location it was later called "Miramontes."
Now one has to wonder what part the African and Himyarite castles and structures played in these early Moorish ones in Iberia.
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche: I also found out recently the Zuwagha according to specialists occupied not just southern Libya but the Tripolitanian coasts and founded Zawagha in the Sabratha area among other places.
Al Maqrisi places the Zaghawa in Barca as well. They must be the vassal tribes of the Sanhaja including the Kitama if we are to believe the Djamhara of Ibn Doraid.
I believe these people were represented by the people who had peppercorn hairstyles in north Africa in the Roman period.
Moors in Emperor Trajans Roman legion.
That is at least how Mauri were described in the neo Roman period - wearing their hair "curled with hot irons".
About the castle in the first post. I do believe this says something about its origin being with relation who the islamic tribe of the Zawaga.
"El origen de esta fortaleza está relacionado con la tribu islámica de los Zuwaga, que desde el Norte de África se diseminaron por buena parte de la geografía peninsular. Su ubicación elevada y rocosa le otorgó posteriormente el nombre de Miramontes."
It says "The origin of this fortress is related to the Islamic Zuwaga tribe, who spread to a good part of the geography of the peninsula from North Africa. Because of its high and rocky location it was later called "Miramontes."
Now one has to wonder what part the African and Himyarite castles and structures played in these early Moorish ones in Iberia.
Thanks a bunch. Looks promising for research.
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Zawagha and present Zanata Berbers of Ghuara/Garawa/Jarawa stock occupy places like Gara Mez-zawaga in the Dakhla Oasis west of Egypt. They are also included in the people called Ahel Gara by Tuareg. While the Nobatae or Anbat-Znaga originated in the Kharga oasis.
These Znaga, Gara and Zaghawa people are the aborigines or proto-Berber people that became the Gaitules and Melanogaituli further west. The only other people were the Tuareg also called mazata, Luwata, Misrata who made up the warrior and noble caste of the Ketama (Kel Imakitan), Sanhaja, Zanata, Hawara and Masmuda.
The first group or confederation known as ahel Gara or Garawan were the people that were the builders, smiths, ploughmen, fishermen etc who mined the gold and refined the salt and founded the places like Garama or Jerma, Dar Tichitt.
Bovill said in, Silent Trade of Wangara, these traders were known in the western Sahel and Sudan as, “Wangara and Sarakore (Sarakolli), and in the east as Kardawan and Garawan (Garamantes)…” (Bovill, 1929 ) (parentheses not mine.)
It is H.T. Norris who speaks of the Anbat Znaga who claimed kinship ties with the Lamtuna through Yahya b. 'Umar, the brother of Abu Bakr. (Almoravid Dynasty)
This has set me wondering if Abu Bakar was acutally from the vassal clan rather than a true Tuareg.
Abu Bakr portrayed by Portuguese cartographer Viladestes 1413?
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You must translate google and ask me if you have doubts
remembering Islamists (called Moors by Eurocentric) and Catholics (called Christians) were black. remembering that these white shown in the image were black but were whitened probably
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: You must translate google and ask me if you have doubts
remembering Islamists (called Moors by Eurocentric) and Catholics (called Christians) were black. remembering that these white shown in the image were black but were whitened probably
Thanks Malibudusul, but Quetzacoahtl already translated what was above.
I had already read that book when I was in highschool decades ago but hadn't known about the star of David which I just recently saw in the video. That is extremely telling and explains certain things.
Mones uses the word Zaghawa and Abun Nasr Zawagha. Mones wrote in his article, “The Conquest of North Africa and Berber Resistance” o“the Zanata (or Zanatians) inhabited Cyrenaica and Tripolitania, extending southward as far as Djabal Nafusa and the oases of Fezzan, the predominant confederations of kabilas being those of the Hawwara, Luwata, Nafusa, and Zaghawa” (Mones, p. 228)
Mones, H. (1988). The conquest of North Africa and Berber Resistance. In M. Fasi, & I. Hrbek (Eds.), Africa from the 7th to the 11th Century (pp. 224-245). UNESCO International Scientific Committee for the Drafting of a General History of Africa.
It is well recognized the Jewish presence among the Berghawata (Barghou - likely Jarawa) and Maghrawa (Tuareg) and Jarawa of al Kahina's time - a branch of Zanata(although some say they were Christianized), and the Zawagha or Zaghai of Wargla, Tuat, Dra'a, Sijilmassa, Ghurara, the Gharian, Ghardaia and many other North AFrican places once formerly occupied by Zanata and Jarawa or Wangara. The Soninke originally called Sugai or Zaghai who became the Songhai were the people who truly called themselves Beriberi or Berbers, known as Al-Barabir in both Portuguese chronicles and Arab writings according to Lewicki (p. 313).
See Lewicki, T. (1988). The role of the Sahara and the Saharians in relationships between north and south. In Muḥammad Fāsī & Ivan Hrbek (Eds.). Africa from the Seventh to the Eleventh Century, (pp. 276-313) UNESCO. International Scientific Committee for the Drafting of a General History of Africa.
According to Abun Nasr in the (“The Zawagha living on the Tripolitanian coast “ helped the Ibadite ruler Khalaf (Jamil b. Abun-Nasr) in the area of Sabratha in the 9th century and the Ibadites of Fezzan also followed Khalaf. Many of the early Ibadites were Jarawa/Garawan and Zaghawa converted from Judaism especially those at Wargla in Mzab.
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