quote:Originally posted by Sundjata: the term Black or referred to the term its self as a problem. As stated, the problem with social constructs is that they're subjective, hence, the claim that "mixed" people are "included" with Blacks is false simply because the term Black is subjective and not everyone agrees with that claim.
quote:Originally posted by KoKaKoLa: Journalist: How looked Akhenaten?? Dr Charlier: he looked like a normal man but he was a BLACK MAN. Do not forget that egyptians had black skin in antiquity. they still have it a little right now but they lost their blackness a little after the invasions of numerous populations in Egypt but the Egyptians - i hate the Negroid word because it has a bad connotation, however it is a reality biologically speaking- but you have to imagine that the Ancients had black skin, more than they [the moderns] do right now.
quote:Originally posted by KoKaKoLa: Journalist: How looked Akhenaten?? Dr Charlier: he looked like a normal man but he was a BLACK MAN. Do not forget that egyptians had black skin in antiquity. they still have it a little right now but they lost their blackness a little after the invasions of numerous populations in Egypt but the Egyptians - i hate the Negroid word because it has a bad connotation, however it is a reality biologically speaking- but you have to imagine that the Ancients had black skin, more than they [the moderns] do right now.
i tried my best to translate.
Why are they calling BROWN skin black?
quote:Originally posted by Atemu: Not the West African broad type most associate black with.
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quote:Originally posted by Atemu at 29 January, 2012 01:48 PM: Beja/Horn African type.
Not the West African broad type most associate black with.
Beja
Ethiopians
Somalis
quote:Originally posted by Atemu: 29 January, 2012 02:59 PM
i tried my best to translate.
Why are they calling BROWN skin black?
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West African "Blacks" according to the 1:48 pm Atmenu aka Manu
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Manu aka Atemu's scientifc definition of African features...The Above East/Horners are Brown, the Below West Africans a Blacks not Browns and the Egyptians skin on the image he posted don't match to west Africans..
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Your selective pictures don't mean anything to me. I am fully aware how said populations look like and don't need some selective biased crap presentations.
Secondly, in the real world (not some fantasy world you live in) West Africans stick out a lot when among people like the Beja and Eritreans.
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quote:Originally posted by Atemu: Your selective pictures
quote:Originally posted by Atemu:
quote:Originally posted by Atemu:(Selective Picture) I am fully aware how said populations look like and don't need some selective biased crap presentations.
quote:Originally posted by Atemu:
Not the West African broad type most associate black with.
.Claims to know what Africans look like, then implys only West Africans are "Broad"..
quote:West Africans stick out a lot when among people like the Beja and Eritreans.
(Notice the Back Peddle trying to envoke Beja and Eritreans not Horners in general like he did earlier.)
The above has one image with West African children from Ghana, the other Eritrean and Ethiopian..
Should be easy to figure out, after all you have...
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The average Ethiopian would call you a Baria (derogatory word for West Africans/Slaves). Keep trying to associate yourself with people who don't look like you.
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In french, "noir" can signify dark skin or any complexion contrasting white skin; including tawny and ruddy complexion. And no where in the translation OP provided does he say that ancient Egyptians were "Black people." He says that the man had dark skin and that Egyptians of antiquity had dark skin.
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quote:A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:
Topic A is under discussion. Topic B is introduced under the guise of being relevant to topic A (when topic B is actually not relevant to topic A). Topic A is abandoned.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because merely changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim......
Example:
quote:Originally posted by Atemu: The average Ethiopian would call you a Baria (derogatory word for West Africans/Slaves). Keep trying to associate yourself with people who don't look like you.
^^^^ This is what is trying to tell us about Africans and our features...notice how quickly they contradict themselves and yet claim to be expert on African features..
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The average Ethiopian would be disgusted by being associated with West Africans, they absolutely hate it (they have many derogatory words for West African people). However, Black Americans of West African origin like Jari seems to think they are his people! Oh the irony.
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quote:A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:
Topic A is under discussion. Topic B is introduced under the guise of being relevant to topic A (when topic B is actually not relevant to topic A). Topic A is abandoned.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because merely changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim......
quote:Originally posted by Atemu: The average Ethiopian would be disgusted by being associated with West Africans, they absolutely hate it (they have many derogatory words for West African people). However, Black Americans of West African origin like Jari seems to think they are his people! Oh the irony.
2nd attempt at a Fallacy argument
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quote:Originally posted by Confirming Truth: Lost in translation...
In french, "noir" can signify dark skin or any complexion contrasting white skin; including tawny and ruddy complexion. And no where in the translation OP provided does he say that ancient Egyptians were "Black people." He says that the man had dark skin and that Egyptians of antiquity had dark skin.
In short, he's saying that the Egyptians of antiquity were different. Also, see Kokakola's translation. Comparing them to the term "Negroid" is a dead giveaway concerning what he meant (that they were "Black").
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quote:Originally posted by Atemu: Beja/Horn African type.
Not the West African broad type most associate black with.
The Beja are heavily Caucasoid admixed, its why they have finer craniofacial features.
The afronuts out of self-hatred of the broad negroid phenotype though resort to claiming the finer features in Beja are apart of natural african diversity.
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quote:A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:
Topic A is under discussion. Topic B is introduced under the guise of being relevant to topic A (when topic B is actually not relevant to topic A). Topic A is abandoned.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because merely changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim......
quote:Originally posted by Atemu:
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: Fallacy arguments-2
You are a lowly slave to them and they do not see you as related to them. While you desperately try to claim them.
A typical Amhara would not allow his daughter to marry a Black American.
3rd attempt at a Fallacy argument..
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Shall I take this as you inability to rectify your contradictions above..??
(Take note, these are the people who claim to be experts on African features)
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quote:Originally posted by KoKaKoLa: Journalist: How looked Akhenaten?? Dr Charlier: he looked like a normal man but he was a BLACK MAN. Do not forget that egyptians had black skin in antiquity. they still have it a little right now but they lost their blackness a little after the invasions of numerous populations in Egypt but the Egyptians - i hate the Negroid word because it has a bad connotation, however it is a reality biologically speaking- but you have to imagine that the Ancients had black skin, more than they [the moderns] do right now.
quote: Keep trying to associate yourself with people who don't look like you.
Every afronut on this forum in real life is phenotypically Negroid, yet when they come on this forum they try to cluster themselves with thin nosed and straighter haired, predominantly Caucasoid, North Africans. This is done out of self-hatred. They all hate looking in the mirror.
Just as an example, here is the afronut clyde winters in real life -
On this forum though clyde doesn't identify with his own Negroid traits. Instead you hear the usual afronut fantasy of thin nosed blacks or blacks with straight hair, despite the fact none of the afronuts have those features themselves. Posts: 2408 | From: My mother's basement | Registered: Dec 2010
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quote:Originally posted by Atemu: Jari, You are a desperate low-life character with an identity crisis. Our discussion is over.
Courtesy of wikipedia:
An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it.
Bowing out through the use of yet another logical fallacy? LMAO
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Seriously, can AEians can be anything else but indigenous black people of Africa. Don't need a French anthropologist to tell me that.
But for those who speak French. What is he saying about Nefertiti min 6:48?
Also C-Ass can you give up on that Kaka-soid nonsense. Stop tryng to steal African history by calling them Kaka-soids. Afrocentrics don't call the ancient one "Negroes". It is anthropoligists who call AEians Negroid.
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In the 1970's and 80's, the Afrocentrics, like Diop, were arguing that the AE's were Negroid with wide noses and wooly hair.
As of 2012 however, modern Afrocentrics are now arguing that the AE's were thin nosed and wavy/straight haired but still somehow magically ''black'' despite admitting they had Caucasoid bone morphology and non-Negroid hair.
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quote:Originally posted by Atemu: The average Ethiopian would be disgusted by being associated with West Africans, they absolutely hate it (they have many derogatory words for West African people). However, Black Americans of West African origin like Jari seems to think they are his people! Oh the irony.
Awwww, shut your tranny ho, you fuching bytch! What do you know about Ethiopians and West Africans?
All Black people of Africa are one! That is why we have African Union with headquarters in Adis Abebe.
All Black people are therefore welcome in Addis Abebe.
I have been there, and I know.
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quote:Originally posted by Atemu: The average Ethiopian would be disgusted by being associated with West Africans, they absolutely hate it (they have many derogatory words for West African people). However, Black Americans of West African origin like Jari seems to think they are his people! Oh the irony.
Awwww, shut your tranny ho, you fuching bytch! What do you know about Ethiopians and West Africans?
All Black people of Africa are one! That is why we have African Union with headquarters in Adis Abebe.
All Black people are therefore welcome in Addis Abebe.
I have been there, and I know.
You would never be able to get an Amhara wife! They would not let their daughters marry a 'baria' like you.
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You don't know what they say behind your backs!
''Ethiopians are of Semitic stock and at that time they called all other black Africans “baria” without batting an eye. Abyssinians, together with the Arabs, were the greatest slave merchants on the eastern coast of Africa.'' Michael B. Lentakis - 2005
One of many examples.
Amhara racism against Negroid people is well-documented.
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quote:Originally posted by Atemu: You don't know what they say behind your backs!
''Ethiopians are of Semitic stock and at that time they called all other black Africans “baria” without batting an eye. Abyssinians, together with the Arabs, were the greatest slave merchants on the eastern coast of Africa.'' Michael B. Lentakis - 2005
One of many examples.
Amhara racism against Negroid people is well-documented.
West Africans have racial terms for African Americans aswell does that mean there not the same people?
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quote:Originally posted by asante-Korton: West Africans have racial terms for African Americans aswell does that mean there not the same people?
Most West Africans would not care if their daughter married an African American.
However, Ethiopians, especially Amharas, would not allow it and would be disgusted if their daughter did so. She would be disowned because Ethiopians look down on African Americans and West Africans.
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Atemu is Manu an Arabian who thinks he knows about Africans better than we do ourselves..lmao.
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