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Just read where Brazilian football star Neymar Santos very recently signed up with Barcelona. I decided to check out his football stats in Brazil. As reported Neymar makes $1.8 million per month at the age of 21.

In the process I read where racial matters are still very much predominant in Brazilian sociology. Neymar as a Brazilian football star reflects this too.

The point is that European dominance in economics and technology in the Western hemisphere translates into areas of class and privilege. As a result caste/racial markers are put in place to ensure that European dominance continue.

Blacks and others who are in lower castes being conditioned to accept these already reified caste structures only oppose them in the main when they are in the lowest racial castes, but once they are positioned higher up the caste hierachy on the basis of wealth they simply conform and seek to become more entrenched in such a system.

The case of Neymar and others like him bear this out.

The question is how can such a situation change without mass political agitation. Such was tried in the U.S. decades ago but the dominant white racial structure has more or less successfully handled the situation by absorbing certain black elements into the political and economic superstructure. This success by the white superstructure is evidenced by the endorsing of a kind of blended "mulattoism" in the both Brazil and the U.S.--the 2 countries where blacks are largest in population.

http://browse.feedreader.com/c/Black_Women_of_Brazil-1/325999754

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Man Lamin, I can always count on you to find the best Articles on Brazil.

Let me just say, I have lost all respect for these wannabe white lowlifes who make stupid comments like Ronaldo and Neymar. Ronaldo buckteeth and all thinks himself as White? Black Brazillians should NOT try and force them to identify with them. Afro Brazillians have given more culture to Brazil then any euro ass kissing goofs who deny there own roots. PELE? No RESPECT
He wants his daughter to be White? whatever. Imagine the BIGGEST soccer star in the World had an chance to elevate Blacks in Brazil by being proud of his Roots and showing Blacks his love for himself. Instead PELE(SCUM) takes the money of the racists and NEVER onc e even speaks about Black White issues Uncle tom has an newe name and its PELE.

This is why Muhammad Ali cant be touched by Pele. Muhammad was the Best and Used his platform to support Black Causes. What cause did pele support that did not kiss white mans ass? Neymar, I understand why he has self hate issues. You growing up supporting these players pele and Ronaldo and BOTH hate there identity so who is there to make Neymar proud to be Black?? None. His self hate can be blamed on the stars who came before him.

To finish I say Brazil will NOT win the WC unless they elevate there Black players like how They Push there Whites. KAKA sucks yet gets picked before Robino. The more I read about Brazil, The less I want to visit. [Mad]


Let me post this Article Here because it unites with your Thread


The racist face of Brazil’s miscegenation


Note from BW of Brazil: The question of racial identity and classification are topics dealt with frequently on this blog. Brazil’s history and reputation has long been constructed upon the idea of miscegenation, the myth of a “racial democracy” and being the largest mixed race country in the world. These ideals have long covered up a the huge socio-economic disparities between Brazilians who consider themselves to be white and those who are non-white. While there are those who argue make accusations of militants attempting to “racialize” or “Americanize” race in Brazil, the truth is that the preference for European features and the denigration of blackness has existed for centuries in Latin America’s largest country. In today’s post, Jarid Arraes discusses the “racist face” of century’s of miscegenation that has led the majority of persons of visible African ancestry to deny that they are black people.

by Jarid Arraes

The issue of miscegenation in Brazil is often oversimplified and romanticized. It is not uncommon to hear that Brazil is a mestiço (mixed race) and plural country and, consequently, all its inhabitants had their ethnicity inevitably mixed at some point in their ancestry. But under the axiom of a mixed country hides a violent and racist reality: the generalization of whiteness in a predominantly black country.

If all Brazilians are mixed and have black and Indian blood in their veins, why are many people reluctant to recognize their own ancestry? It turns out that the social identification of black people in Brazil takes place directly because of the skin tone. The understanding of people in regards to blackness is often distorted: even if the parents or immediate family of an individual are black, what weighs for that person to be recognized as black is the color of the skin. Even a dark skin tone is no guarantee that someone will be seen as black; it’s enough to remember how many times euphemisms like “moreno” are adopted to refer to people with dark skin color, as if the word could somehow reduce the negative burden that the term “negro” seems to have.


Although society does not always validate the blackness of others, people often recognize that same blackness in feautures and physical characteristics, which are constantly transformed into justifications for racism and violence. The broad nose, thick lips and cabelo crespo (curly/kinky hair), popularly known as “cabelo ruim (bad hair)”, are targets for degradation and rejection. It is interesting to remember that Africa is a vast continent with a wide variety of ethnic groups, which don’t all fit into the known mold of “black features”. Even so, these are the features interpreted as black and eventually ferment racism in its various forms.


Even with so many stories of racist violence, many people still feel insecure when asked about their blackness. Last week was opened a research form targeted at admixed individuals and the responses were quite similar. Some people say they didn’t feel entitled to assert themselves as black because of the not having such a dark tone of skin. Many of them are direct descendants of blacks, or have close black relatives, but the racial affirmation simply doesn’t happen. On the one hand, this is a show of respect to black people of unquestionably dark skin, suffering daily, impassive racism of debate or speculation, racism against dark skin and against appearance. On the other hand, a serious discussion is necessary and sensible: why do so many people of African descent not recognize their own blackness and cannot assert it in a political and subjective way?


For Brazilians, it is better to be white whenever possible. If the skin is not dark enough, or if one parent has blond hair and blue eyes, then the person is considered white, in a relentless attempt to lighten the descendants, the family and the nation. From the mixture of races, born white by out of consideration and, therefore, dies the African descendant culture, religion and identity. Blackness and African culture, with its symbols and traditions become increasingly something of the past, of an ancestry that is, in the overwhelming majority of the time, completely unknown.

But the topics for discussion do not stop there, because it is not the recognition of the black identity that will make a person be black. Even if their parents or their grandparents are black, a person with white skin and light hair hardly suffers the racism aimed at black people. It is a matter of common sense: there is no empathy in making a political statement against discrimination of which you are not a victim. Redeeming your family roots, to know them, celebrate them and to promote them is desirable and inspiring, but it is important to take care not to trivialize black political affirmation and its struggle. There are white people, those with no black family ties, which are full of bad faith and say that they are also black because of miscegenation in Brazil. But this argument is a sham: in our country, black is who is recognized by others as black and therefore suffer racism and social discrimination.

Racism is a problem rooted since the formation of Brazil. For centuries our country has been struggling to impede the black political affirmation of racial self-recognition. We are part of a country that not so long ago openly had a policy of racial whitening, encouraging the entry of white immigrants to lighten the color of Brazil. Brazilian culture wants to delete blacks in its history, under the mask of pretentious miscegenation. But miscegenation can also be a weapon of struggle and empowerment: it’s enough that we understand ourselves as African descendants, without losing sight of the racism that we suffer. When the racist face of a society is revealed, there are no almost-whites, almost-blacks or morenos, but people in which blackness was recognized.


Finally, this text alone would never be able to address all the nuances and complexity of the issue. It’s necessary to brave Brazilian miscegenation and promote consciousness on the subject. This is only the start for the reflection and the realization of new debates and projects.


http://blackwomenofbrazil.co/2013/05/22/the-racist-face-of-brazils-miscegenation/

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The solution for Brazil racism is not in Brazil but in Africa.When black Kush and Egypt were the richest, most technology advance and most powerful countries in the world all the mulato, black and white people of Europe, Asia and America admired, identified and worshiped black people.Mulato and white people wanted to be black.

The Atlantic slave trade or the selling of black African to white European destroyed the image of black people in the American continent.In the American continent they dont teach in school that Egypt, Kush, Kanaan, Israel, Carthage, Etruria, crete, Mohenjo Daro were black civilisations.The white international media degrade the image of black country by only focusing on the negative side.There is no African BBC, Al Jazeera or CNN showing the African point of view and focusing in the good side of Africa.

Mulato and black in the American continent want to be white because the richest, most technologicaly advance and most powerful countries in the world are white.The Asian dont have that inferiority complexe because they have rich industrial countries like Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and China to look up to.If African countries like Nigeria, Ethiopia, Kenya, DRCongo become as rich and technologicaly advance as Japan, South Korea and China the black and mulato Brazilian whose ancestar come from Nigeria and Kongo will become proud to identified with black people and not running away from it.

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So we must blame the corrupt governments of Africa for this situation. This week in Addis Ababa there is big money spending 50th anniversary of the founding of the OAU(now AU) but what are they going to do after their tired speeches. Same old, same old.

All of Africa will remain enslaved to the IMF and World Bank--with the African Development Bank(ADB) controlled by Western finance.

The continent regional integration with single currencies for its 4 regions--maybe 1 or 2 would be better. Those currencies should be effectively convertible and on par with Western and Asian currencies. But that's not something the lazy delegates will be discussing at the gathering.

Africa needs an African High Command but that is not what the delegates will be discussing. They are not embarrassed by the inroads AFRICOM has made on the continent.


Africa needs serious regional integration and allow the free flow of people, goods and services in the regions. The EU has that kind of policy--which means, for example, that any Polish person could travel to London to live and pick up a job. But the delegates would not be discussing that.

Africa needs to put into place the old Pan Africanist model of Nkrumah. Which means that places like Haiti would become members and other African majority nations could send delegates and be part of the pan-African community. Would they be doing that? No. So what would they be doing? I have no idea. Maybe adding to the nightly takings of working girls in Addis. what else? When Gaddafi was there, there was some movement, but now nothing, except boasting stupidly about how China is helping them.

Just so pitiful for the continent and people that produced the world's first technological civilisation that lasted 3,000 years.

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quote:
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The question is how can such a situation change without mass political agitation. Such was tried in the U.S. decades ago but the dominant white racial structure has more or less successfully handled the situation by absorbing certain black elements into the political and economic superstructure. This success by the white superstructure is evidenced by the endorsing of a kind of blended "mulattoism" in the both Brazil and the U.S.--the 2 countries where blacks are largest in population.

http://browse.feedreader.com/c/Black_Women_of_Brazil-1/325999754 [/QB]

In Brazil, Pardo (Portuguese pronunciation: [ˈpaʁdu]) is a race/skin color category used by the Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics (IBGE) in Brazilian censuses. It is a Portuguese word that encompasses various shades of brown.[3] The other categories are branco ("White"), negro ("Black"), amarelo ("yellow", meaning East Asians), and indígena ("indigene" or "indigenous person", meaning Amerindians).

Pardo was also a casta classification used in Colonial Spanish America from the 16th to 18th centuries, and was used to classify a racially mixed individual was a mixture of white, black, and Amerindian now mostly known as Mestiço. the term was and is popular in Brazil.

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You could say that the category "Pardo" is an officially recognized mulatto identity superstucture in Brazil.
Not the case currently in the United States today

There was once a time prior to the so called one drop rule when similar to "Pardo" , "Mulatto" was an officially recognized identitiy in the United States, especially in New Orleans where Creoles had been acquiring more status.

This got to a point where some white felt threatened by the competion so they did away with this superstructure and came up with a mythological concept that there were no mulattos if you had one drop of black you were black. They were trying to discourage "miscegenation".
However most Black people today like the one drop rule it adds numbers to the population.
So often a person is pressured to choose "black" or "white".
This is somewhat different frorm Brazil which still has a mulatto "Pardo" category

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quote:
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So we must blame the corrupt governments of Africa for this situation. This week in Addis Ababa.
Africa needs an African High Command but that is not what the delegates will be discussing. They are not embarrassed by the inroads AFRICOM has made on the continent.


Africa needs serious regional integration and allow the free flow of people, goods and services in the regions. The EU has that kind of policy--which means, for example, that any Polish person could travel to London to live and pick up a job. But the delegates would not be discussing that.

Africa needs to put into place the old Pan Africanist model of Nkrumah. Which means that places like Haiti would become members and other African majority nations could send delegates and be part of the pan-African community. Would they be doing that? No. So what would they be doing? I have no idea. Maybe adding to the nightly takings of working girls in Addis. what else? When Gaddafi was there, there was some movement, but now nothing, except boasting stupidly about how China is helping them.

Just so pitiful for the continent and people that produced the world's first technological civilisation that lasted 3,000 years.

lamin - Here you sound so much like a Black man, that I am once again uncertain of your ethnicity. But if you are a Black man, then you solve the riddle of Africa's inability to move forward.

Please review your posts on other subjects, in them you are just as myopic and clueless as you are insightful on this subject.

Clearly then, If you are typical of Africans, then you simply lack the ability to think sensibly and logically on more than one subject. I don't know what the work-around will be, but there must be one.

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this is one of Mike's baiting technique. If you read it it's saying the person is clueless and you might think it explains why somewhere

but it doesn't.

It's a form of bluff

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Clearly then, If you are typical of Africans, then you simply lack the ability to think sensibly and logically on more than one subject. I don't know what the work-around will be, but there must be one.
Mike, you are a riot--as they say. I couldn't resist a LOL at your colonial-esque evaluation. You made my day Mike,...thanks.
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quote:
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Clearly then, If you are typical of Africans, then you simply lack the ability to think sensibly and logically on more than one subject. I don't know what the work-around will be, but there must be one.
Mike, you are a riot--as they say. I couldn't resist a LOL at your colonial-esque evaluation. You made my day Mike,...thanks.
Quote: "colonial-esque" evaluation.

It sounds like you-all are used to your former masters speculating as to why you are such entrenched failures.

But Might I suggest that you stop chuckling at how your failures invariably confound your exmasters and concentrate instead on how to be a success.

On a related matter:

In years past, I have wondered why some Blacks considered civilized carriage and behavior as a natural thing, and the Black mans gift to a barbaric world. And why some Blacks considered that very same thing as being White. It then occured to me that perhaps this was the distinction between native Africans and expatriate Africans.

Once again that thought occurs to me, because even though no words were spoken, reading between the words you spoke, I get the feeling that many Africans consider the striving for excellence and success - "A White Thing".

It of course is not, just look at Doxies people and Greece and Eastern Europe. But it is a choice, Africans really need to come to terms with their choices.

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Lamin if the African politicians cant empower and enrich Africa then a group of smart and patriotic African elite should take over African country by stealth.I dont like the International Banker because they are immoral but admire how they took over the Western country central bank and rule the country in the shadow.

An African common market and an African common currency is a good idea.A Pan Africanist African Union is a great idea, they could admit black Carribean country like Haiti and Jamaica and Pacific Ocean countries as observing members.Black Asian countries like Papua New Guinea, Fiji and Solomon Island are isolated in Asia an African Union membership will realy help them.The black Australian and New Caledonian can also be invited to discuss their situation.

I agree with Firewall African countries are progressing economicaly and politicaly but Im a lover of great civilization I want the glory and power of Ancient Egypt back in Africa.I want some black African country to be a major player in world politic.

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"Brazilians have come to the startling conclusion in recent years that race affects everything, from education to employment to justice."

"Racism causes people to continually whiten themselves. For example, many morenos straighten their hair, people search for lighter-skinned marriage partners, and people identify themselves and each other with nicknames indicating a lighter skin tone, such as moreninho (browny), cafe (coffee), mulato, bronzeado (tanned), and escurinho (darky) to name a few. Rarely will someone assume an identity as Negro (black). Even those who call themselves black often have a hard time convincing other Brazilians not to identify them as moreno or mulatto. Calling someone black, for many, is still an insult."

"The truth is that while there’s no big deal about being white it’s definitely a social disadvantage to be black in Brazil."

"Blacks in general are burdened with disproportionately high rates of unemployment, illiteracy and infant mortality. And Brazil's poorest blacks are targets of racial stereotypes that often lead to extreme police violence against them."

"Advocacy groups adopted a more ambiguous stance with posters showing three people of different shades of blackness under the slogan “Don’t let your colour go unregistered.” Although in Portuguese this is a clever pun, for some it was needlessly confusing, helping whites to maintain divisions among blacks. Whites in power have tried every tactic they can think of to keep themselves in the majority."

"Most destructive of all to black self-esteem has been the ideology of branqueamento or whitening. This theory was dreamed up in the 1920s to stop Brazil becoming a predominantly black country. White immigration from Europe was encouraged to stem the black tide. The black in Brazil will disappear within 70 years, said one congressman in 1923. Others like author Afranio Peixoto wrote: In 200 years the black eclipse will have passed entirely."

"Black Brazilians remain the country's invisible citizens, a status blamed not on racial prejudice but on their economic status. In truth, said sociologist Antonio Sergio Guimaraes, Brazilians were in denial."

"Racism in Brazil is hard to prove because the myth of racial democracy is carefully cultivated."

"Every day millions of Afro-Brazilians experience racism. From the family living room, where darker skinned children are often discriminated against, to Church pews, barbershops, classrooms, and the Halls of Congress, racism gnaws at the fabric of Brazilian society."

"The South American giant is often considered by foreigners and Brazilians as a racial democracy because of the high number of interracial marriages and seemingly easy banter between the races in every day life. Racial Democracy, coined by the Brazilian Sociologist Gilberto Freyre in early 20th century, is the theory that a history of extended miscegenation has created a cultural melange in which all races are equally valued. Nothing is farther from the truth in contemporary Brazil."

"Black activists say that mass sterilization campaigns run by private groups in Brazil target Afro-Brazilian women precisely for this reason. When South African black leader Nelson Mandela visited recently he was handed a document claiming that 20 million black Brazilian women have been sterilized."

"Capitalism works to stay in power is to exploit the differences within the working class itself in Brazil. They exploit Black people because they are Black and have less power in society, they use these differences maintain control. This is their strategy. We believe that we must understand this strategy, and create a new strategy to fight against this system."

"Brazil's range of skin color was once viewed as a debilitating defect by its leaders, prompting them to try to whiten the society by luring European immigrants during the late 19th and early 20th centuries."

"A whiter than white ideology is all pervasive. For example, the 1980 census required blacks to fit themselves into one of 136 colour categories - including burnt white, toasted, and cinnamon."

"The expression "racial democracy" appeared in the 1930s and was intended to mask the intentions of the government, which wanted to "bleach" society by encouraging the "most advanced races"--in other words, white Europeans--to migrate to Brazil. The country had accepted the myth of black racial and intellectual inferiority, and urgently wanted to take action to change the racial make-up of the Brazilian population, where descendants of Africans were in the majority."

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^My first impulse was to say: They're idiots, why do you bother with them? But then I realized that it is more complicated than that.

It may be that in Brazil we see at work both, the Albinos inherent fear of Blacks, which motivates determined machinations to keep Blacks out of power, and the Africans innocent inability to perceive and understand these machinations. Thus their inability to effectively fight against them.

For those who doubt that there is a difference in Blacks between Africans, including those of recent African origin: and Blacks who left Africa thousands of years ago. One need only to take note of where these Brazil types of situations exist.

Today, in addition to Brazil, were we know that the non-native Blacks are descendant from African Slaves. There is also the Africans of North Africa and Arabia (Arabia is a natural extension of Africa, the Albino mans boundaries are bogus). In these places, we see that the Albino man has been successful in creating a mulatto class, and then having this Albino class join with him in acting against Blacks.

Contrast that with areas like North America and the British Caribbean, where Blacks were mostly of European origin. In those areas the Albinos were unable to use the tactic of divide and conquer because those Blacks were sophisticated and well versed in how the Albinos operate. Today those communities are still unified, and able to effectively counter the Albinos attacks.

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Racism causes people to continually whiten themselves. For example, many morenos straighten their hair, people search for lighter-skinned marriage partners, and people identify themselves and each other with nicknames indicating a lighter skin tone, such as moreninho (browny), cafe (coffee), mulato, bronzeado (tanned), and escurinho (darky) to name a few. Rarely will someone assume an identity as Negro (black). Even those who call themselves black often have a hard time convincing other Brazilians not to identify them as moreno or mulatto. Calling someone black, for many, is still an insult."
On target. Once on a visit to Salvador(Bahia, Brazil) I was invited by a moreno family for dinner and the small son greeted me by calling me "preto"[black]. The boy's mother was so embarrassed that she loudly upbraided her son and sought to soothe things out with lots of "desculpes". It was amusing.

But note that there was a "Movimento Negro" some years ago with some people wearing "100% Negro" T shirts. Zumbi do Palmares is always celebrated every year. Zumbi led a slave revolt and set up an independent enclave for blacks that lasted 100 years.

In the Carnavale racial distinctions are structured with 3 kinds of samba bands. There is one band for the whites(brancos), one for mulattos(morenos), and one for blacks(negros). You have to sign up and pass an "eyeball test" before being admitted to one of the 3 bands. People hardly make mistakes since they know already where they fit in.

But the Bahia culture is distinctly though unconsciously to the people neo-West African--from "akaja"[Yoruba derived term for a street 'fast food'] to Candomble and Orisha beliefs.

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Brazil's range of skin color was once viewed as a debilitating defect by its leaders, prompting them to try to whiten the society by luring European immigrants during the late 19th and early 20th centuries."
In fact, the whitening policy included importuning white males to bear as many children as possible with black females though not marrying them.

This was similar to a policy in Mexico where German settler males were actually paid money to impregnate as many Native American females as possible so as to "improve the race".

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An African common market and an African common currency is a good idea.A Pan Africanist African Union is a great idea, they could admit black Carribean country like Haiti and Jamaica and Pacific Ocean countries as observing members.Black Asian countries like Papua New Guinea, Fiji and Solomon Island are isolated in Asia an African Union membership will realy help them.The black Australian and New Caledonian can also be invited to discuss their situation.
This has to be done with serious conviction because the West would immediately put out some contrarian propaganda accusing the African Union as promoting "African exclusivity".

But the big problem is that the present crop of 55 African heads of state is clueless as to how to progress. They are just busy selling off farmlands, mineral rights,etc., and keeping some big pocket money for themselves in exchange to understand how geopolitical strategies on the part of the West, China, Saudi Arabia, etc., work.

I have no idea why they are like that when there are the models of Nkrumah, Nyrere, Kaunda,etc. for them to follow. The average African head of state is like Obiang[google his son Teodorin Obiang Nguema]just that they have less resources to plunder for themselves. But the West and the U.S. in particular just loves him-along with thieves like Bongo of Gabon.

The West hates people like Mugabe and Gaddafi but love Obiang and Bongo. Figure that one out.

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Gaddafi was in bed with the west ...

His illuminati friends got him killed because he dissed the program...

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Mugabe is a Jesuit trained Knight of Malta Commander in Africa. Another sell out.

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You cannot be a free Black man when you bow to a white or Arab god!

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Gaddafi was in bed with the west ...

His illuminati friends got him killed because he dissed the program...

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Mugabe is a Jesuit trained Knight of Malta Commander in Africa. Another sell out.

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You cannot be a free Black man when you bow to a white or Arab god!

Lion, I really don't understand your defeatist attitude. You seem to be saying that since the Albinos took and usurped our things, then they are now so defiled that we should not take them back, but must completely replace them with new things. The problem with that is that "New" things have no history, and you are placing the burden and expense of normalization on the "Victim" while letting the thief off Scott free to enjoy the fruits of his crime.

This is one of those cases where I wholeheartedly encourage emulation of the Khazar Jews. Every single thing that the Albinos stole from us must be "Clawed" back, and their crime detailed.

Here is a Wiki on the Knights, even here it is obvious where the Albinos took over.


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The Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of Saint John of Jerusalem of Rhodes and of Malta also known as the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM), Order of Malta or Knights of Malta, is a Roman Catholic lay religious order of, traditionally, a military, chivalrous and noble nature. It is the world's oldest surviving order of chivalry. The Sovereign Military Order of Malta is headquartered in Rome, and is widely considered a sovereign subject of international law.

SMOM is the modern continuation of the original medieval order of Saint John of Jerusalem, known as the "Fraternitas Hospitalaria" and later as the Knights Hospitaller, a group founded in Jerusalem about 1050 as an Amalfitan hospital to provide care for poor and sick pilgrims to the Holy Land. After the conquest of Jerusalem in 1099 during the First Crusade, it became a military order under its own charter. Following the loss of Christian held territories of the Holy Land to Muslims, the Order operated from Rhodes (1310–1523), and later from Malta (1530–1798), over which it was sovereign.

Although this state came to an end with the ejection of the Order from Malta by Napoleon Bonaparte, the Order as such survived. It retains its claims of sovereignty under international law and has been granted permanent observer status at the United Nations. The order is notable for issuing its own international passports for travel, postal stamps, along with its formal insignia, often portrayed as a white or gold Maltese cross. The order nominally invokes the Blessed Virgin Mary under the venerated Marian title of "Our Lady of Mount Philermos" as its patroness and spiritual intercessor.


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Lion - You seem to be forgetting that Knights were Black men:

Just because the Albinos were successful in stealing this history from us, is no reason to just give up and let them keep it.


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Great pics Mike, but today the Albinos run the Knighthood with an Albino agenda. They serve an albino god, and an albino supremacist plot.

Mugabe has no plan to claw back the Knighthood for the Muurish agenda.

He is just a paid gigolo, dancing to the tune of the pipers paid by his masters in Rome.

Unless your God is Black, you are not a Black man.

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but Mike is athiest
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
but Mike is athiest

How would you know, lying fool.
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He's a little bashful about it


You want to talk about lying?

This is from your website:
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^^^the name of the above painting is
"The Disputation of St. Erasmus and St. Maurice"
by Matthias Grünewald, dated 1523, from the Pinakothek, Münich.


But in the caption you wrote you call the black figure Ulrich Von Hutten which is a 100% LIE

Ulrich von Hutten (21 April 1488 – 29 August 1523) was a German scholar, poet and reformer.

There is no book in world.
Not written or even claimed by anybody, afrocentrics included that says this is a painting of Ulrich Von Hutten.

You simply made that up and you do this all the time straight out deceit and "miseducation of the Negro"

There is ZERO evidence the man in the painting is Ulrich von Hutten. You are a tall tale teller tyring to hustle the people


Portrit of Ulrich von Hutten
by Erhard Schön
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not even rastlivewire would try to pull this scam

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I think Kadafi and Mugabe are nationalist but Im keeping my mind open with the secret society world you never know.I find it very strange that a nationalist like Robert Mugabe is a Jesuit.The Jesuit are like the Pope army.South African Pres Nelson Mandela, Thabo Mbeki and Jacob Zuma are members of the British Knight Malta or of St John Hospitalier.The African President of ex French African colony are members of French Grand Orient Freemason you can see them in youtube meeting in France with white Mason.Maybe white European showed those African leaders the secret paintings of black European
kings and Knight to get them to joined the knighthood.

I agree with IronLion the albinos aka white European run the knighthood with a racist albino agenda and they will not give it back to the original black owner.I agree with IronLion a black African President should worship a black God and not serve a white Pope.

The whitening policy of Latin America(Brazil, Mexico, Dominican, Cuba, Colombia,Argentina etc) is so stupid.Having Nordic white European low life stud having sex and impregnated ten of thousands of black and Indian latino females to make light skin babies.Thats a sick self hatred behavior back up by the Papacy.I hope somebody wrote a book about that national orgy policy of the Latin American Catholic.

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