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Black Americans who think that all Black Americans are Hebrews.
West Africans who think that all West Africans are Hebrews, (The Erverh crowd).
Is this just nutty people who are ignorant of history, but want to fit in somewhere. Or are they right, and the Albino man has found a clever way to dupe us about history again?
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I think Hebrew is another word for black African.
According to a popular theory the Hebrew were the Atonist and Levite follower of Pharaoh Akhenaton in Egypt who were exiled to Palestine because of their religious fanatism. The Hebrew were called Afrim or Ivrim meaning those who breakaway for the many African tribes that maked up Ancient Egypt.
There are the Bantu Hebrew people who claims they are descendant of the Hebrew. The Bantu Hebrew states the Kongo people created Juda and the Ngala people created Israel.
The white Jew of Europe, USA, Israel etc are descendant of white Turk and European that converted to Judaisme and black Jew that migrated to Europe and bleach out by mixing with white people.
The original Hebrew and Jew was a black and brown Egyptian and Palestinian.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Black Americans who think that all Black Americans are Hebrews.
West Africans who think that all West Africans are Hebrews, (The Erverh crowd).
Is this just nutty people who are ignorant of history, but want to fit in somewhere. Or are they right, and the Albino man has found a clever way to dupe us about history again?
Well Mike these many so called black people are claiming this hebrew identity for centuries in the USA and Africa.
If you have studied arab writing specially the writings on the slave trade you would find out that these Arabs would randomly attack hebrew communities in north Africa all the way to Yemen and sell the young men and women into the local slave markets.
The following notes and quotes are from actual events that took place in which Hebrew communities in North-East Africa and Yemen were tortured, condemned, killed, Raped and En-Slaved in the Atlantic Slave trade from 1492-early 18th century.
In 1789 the Sultan Muley Yazid, who in order to convert ten Jews of Mogador (Essaouira) tortured them for ten days by repeatedly hanging them head downward in a dry cistern and bastinadoing them.
He also maintained that the Jews of Tetuan had insulted him, and he ordered a general plunder and en-slavement of that unhappy people there. Which was carried into effect in a most destructive way, with all its attendant horrors of insult and violation on the part of the soldiery.
The richer Jews of Tetuan were tied to the tails of horses and dragged through the city, and many Jews were killed and robbed, and Jewesses were raped and outraged in the cities of Morocco and Tetuan. Terrible cruelties were enacted, and many of the Jews fled to Gibraltar and other places in the lower Sudan. others were converted to Mohammedanism. ------Mr. John Davidson (Traveler) NOTES TAKEN DURING TRAVELS IN AFRICA
also mike these many hebrews were slaves to the berbers of the lands and black Arab sultans and Native African Sultans and turks oppressed these people
"Among other places John Davidson visited was a town or village named Trasermoot, in the Atlas Mountains. He describes it as a kind of Gibraltar in miniature. I went in the evening ", he says, " to dine with the Jews — here called the sons of Yehudi. they are a most extra-ordinary people. I never met with such hospitality or such freedom of manners in any Jews.They had dancing and music, and the ladies mixed in society without the least restraint. . . These are the Jews who have each a Berber master ".------Mr. John Davidson (Traveler) NOTES TAKEN DURING TRAVELS IN AFRICA
The Atlas and RIF Jews Of West Africa
See these hebrews were slaves even in the 18th century.
now mike in the 19th century a small group of hebrews called HABBAN were ruthlessly destroyed by a small band of Arab raiders, 800 Jews who lived peacefully in Hebron.
On the night of August 23, 1929, the tension simmering within this cauldron of nationalities bubbled over, and for 3 days, Hebron turned into a city of terror and murder. By the time the massacres ended, 67 Black Habban Jews lay dead and the survivors were relocated to Jerusalem, leaving Hebron barren of Jews for the first time in hundreds of years.
now according to this mulatto named Yehoshua Sofer) his grandfather and uncles are pictured as bodyguards to the Turkish muslim king they left the east and came to Jamaica in 1962
Khaliph (King) Abdulla Ibn Hussein of Transjordan sits with his personal Jewish bodyguards, Habani Yemenite brothers (left to right): Sayeed, Salaah, and Saadia Sofer/Ma`atuf DoH, uncles of Abir Aluf, Grandmaster Yehoshua Sofer and brothers to his father. (1922, Photo courtesy of the Aluf Abir Yehoshua Sofer)
these were the hebrews of Hebron until they were wiped out
this is why the so called white man is lying because he has taken our identity
not every single negro is a hebrew but a lot of Hebrews were enslaved and transported into slavery on cargo slave ships its a fact which is hidden. More research needs to be done.
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The following notes and quotes are from actual events that took place in which Hebrew communities in North-East Africa and Yemen were tortured, condemned, killed, Raped and En-Slaved in the Atlantic Slave trade from 1492-early 18th century.
The "notes and quotes" proffered have little credibility. The seem like the "black German tribes" you mentioned in another thread, bold on mythical claims, short on facts. WHat clear documentation can you show as to where there alleged "ebrews" were captured and made to undergo the Atlantic Slave Trade? Who were said "ebrews"? WHat paths did they take to reach Atlantic ports? When and how? Where did they leave from and how many? Please furnish CREDIBLE scholarship and documentation in support of the above, not opinion from some website.
Don't you worry "brotha" .. We'll wait...
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova:
When and how? Where did they leave from and how many? Please furnish CREDIBLE scholarship and documentation in support of the above, not opinion from some website.
HISTORICAL GRAPHIC DESCRIPTION OF THE NEGROES OF THE SONGHAI EMPIRE
Joseph Williams in his book Hebrewisms of West Africa -Mr. Williams has this to say about the blacks of West Africa: “In most mixed group of Negroes a Songhai may be identified at first glance; his skin is black as theirs, certainly, but nothing in his mask ((informs to their well known characteristics. The nose of the Songhai is straight and long, pointed rather than flat; the lips are comparatively thin; and the mouth wide rather than prominent and broad, while the eyes arc deeply set and straight in their orbits.
THE FALL OF THE HEBREW EMPIRE CALLED SONGHAI From 300 A.D to 1599
The Songhai Empire has existed for over a thousand years from 300 a.d – 12TH CENTURY A.D In 1240 A.D the Hebrew city of Gao was conquered by the Mali Empire, and remained under its control until 1464, when Songhai reclaimed it as its capital in 1464 in the reign of Hebrew ruler Sonni Ali.
The Mali empire is also called the Mellestinc empire.The rulers and people of the empire of Mali were native Africans of the Mandingo tribe. This tribe was originally situated in the territory known today as Guinea Sierra Leone and northward. The Mandingo rulers recognized the advantages of the rapidly growing powerful influential culture called ISLAM As a result, the Mali Mandingo people all converted to ISLAM.
In 1240 these native African Muslims conquered the hebrew city of Gao and imposed a tribute on them. The decline of the empire of Mali was in the year 1350 a.d.
The Return Of Songhai 1464
In the year 1464, the sixteenth Hebrew Za prince Sonni Ali took the leadership of Gao and began to build a new empire. Sonni Ali attacked many of the neighboring tribes, including the city of Timbuktu, and brought them under his hegemony. this Rulership is known as the The Sonni Dynasty
The Final Fall of Songhai
The Final blow came to The Hebrew Songhai people when the Moors invaded in 1591. The Moors came to acquire wealth;. Some writers have estimated that 23,000 Moors perished in one way or another in the military campaigns against Songhay. After twenty years, the Moors withdrew their military forces from Songhay, in 1618.
So in other words the black Muslims and Native African people sold the Black hebrew people of Songhai into the ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE
Arab Slave Traders trading hebrew people as SLAVES
more at link above
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reference mentioned above:
Hebrewisms of West Africa 1930 Jospeh J Williams
Williams challenges the reader by concluding that Hebraic traditions must have swept across "Negro Africa" and left its influence "among the various tribes." While Williams presents a strong case, his evidence also builds a powerful argument for the reverse-that an indigenous, continent-wide belief system among African people stands at the very root of Hebrew culture and Western religion.
^^^ Habban is not mentioned, However Yemen is mentioned 13 times. Habban were Yemeni so some of these are references to these Yemeni Jews I don't have time to research it
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Khaliph (King) Abdulla Ibn Hussein of Transjordan sits with his personal Jewish bodyguards, Habani Yemenite brothers (left to right): Sayeed, Salaah, and Saadia Sofer/Ma`atuf DoH, uncles of Abir Aluf, Grandmaster Yehoshua Sofer and brothers to his father. (1922, Photo courtesy of the Aluf Abir Yehoshua Sofer)
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^^^^ more lies from Mark.
Both photos are are of the exact same statue of Idrimi in the exact same condition. Both photos above in Marc's graphic show a smooth beard on the statue which is believed due to deterioration of what once thought to be curls carved in relief but wore off as quoted in the description. The statue is made of carbonate of magnesium which sometimes crumbles over time
poor resolution enlargement of Statue of Idrimi from British Museum website photo
The exact same statue of Idrimi in the same condition, different photos, much better resolution
^^^ notice the face is in unrestored condition and you can clearly see the crumbling mainly on the cheek and tip of nose and chip off lip This is how the statue looks today
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Same statue, same condition, side view
Marc didn't like the lips on the sculpture. So he found an out of focus enlargement where you can't make out the features too well. Then he made up a story that it was a different or unrestored version of the statue
Total bullshit
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Marc didn't like the lips on the sculpture. So he found an out of focus enlargement where you can't make out the features too well. Then he made up a story that it was a different or unrestored version of the statue
Total bullshit
Lioness, you are getting careless, your vile racism is starting to show.
Please be advised, like all Human attributes, Black people have thin lips too.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lioness, you are getting careless, your vile racism is starting to show.
Please be advised, like all Human attributes, Black people have thin lips too. [/QB]
I never said that black people can't have thin lips. That is up to the viewer to decide if this statue represents a brother or not.
Mark saw the picture of this statue, didn't like it. So he decided to play around and make up stuff
He took the small photo from the British Museum website, blew it up and 'perfect' the result is poor resolution where you can't tell what is going on. Then he tries to pass it off as a different or 'restored' sculpture
And when you look at a good quality photo the face is not even restored your can see the crumbling damage. Mike please join me in exposing these manipulations and defending the name of thin lipped black people.
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: The following notes and quotes are from actual events that took place in which Hebrew communities in North-East Africa and Yemen were tortured, condemned, killed, Raped and En-Slaved in the Atlantic Slave trade from 1492-early 18th century.
The "notes and quotes" proffered have little credibility. The seem like the "black German tribes" you mentioned in another thread, bold on mythical claims, short on facts. WHat clear documentation can you show as to where there alleged "ebrews" were captured and made to undergo the Atlantic Slave Trade? Who were said "ebrews"? WHat paths did they take to reach Atlantic ports? When and how? Where did they leave from and how many? Please furnish CREDIBLE scholarship and documentation in support of the above, not opinion from some website.
Don't you worry "brotha" .. We'll wait...
ok brotha zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova
Well I will respond to your comments brotha
first your comment "The "notes and quotes" proffered have little credibility"
why? I have seen so called credible people blatantly LIE about history.
I have seen so called credible men lie about the physical characteristics of ancient hebrews, Gauls etc saying that they are white trying to push a LIE
What you should be saying is do we have more info on the subject and the answer is YES men have studied and researched this info in many Books and arabic records so the history is sound.
First I have to ask Do you acknowledge that the ancient hebrews have always been BLACK huh?anwer?
Second question I will acknowledge your comment "The seem like the "black German tribes" you mentioned'
Black Germans is right black hebrews lived in germany and all over Europe since the roman era.
third question I will aknowledge your comment " another thread, bold on mythical claims, short on facts"
name the thread and name the "mystical claims"? My last thread talked about Gaul or Hebrews
in other words PROVE IT What Mysticism?
this is your comment "WHat clear documentation can you show as to wherethere alleged "ebrews" were captured and made to undergo the Atlantic Slave Trade? Who were said "ebrews"?
First I will show that numerous Black semitic people lived throughout Africa since roman times
The Jewish philosopher, Philo (about 40 b.c-40 a.d.).who lived in Alexandria, Egypt, said that one million Jews resided in Libya and Egypt from the Catabathmos to the borders of Ethiopia.
So these negro hebrews have been living in africa for centeries.
Now my brotha I will prove that Hebrew communities lived in West Africa in the 12 to 13th-15th century and was Attacked by native fulani hussa natives
I will quote a scholar named MOORISH WRITER AL Edrisi Of Andalusia,Spain (Is this black man credible enough for you)
this brotha wrote on the interior of Africa from the land to its people IN DETAIL.
In the 12th century He also wrote about a Hebrew colony of Lam-Lam,. Lam-Lam which was situated about 2 hundred miles West of Timbuktu.
p 521 ------Historical Account of Discoveries and Travels in Africa: From the Earliest ..." By HUGH MURRAY, F.R.S.E
Quote from AL Edrisi
"In the whole land of Lam- lam there are but two small cities, or as it were villages, and those are Malel and Dau, situated at the distance of four days' journey from each other. Their inhabitants, as people of those parts relate, are Jews, and most of them unbelieving and ignorant"
In case you are not aware Lam-Lam is a place with a very small population in the state/region of Thies,Senegal
So the villages of Malel and dau were Hebrew cities
now the question were these people sold into SLAVERY
AL Edrisi says further about SLAVERY
"To the southward of Berissa, at the distance of ten days' march, lies the land of Lam-lam, into which incursions are made by the inhabitants of Berissa, Sulla, Tocrur, and Ghana ; there they take numbers of captives, whom they carry away to their own countries, and dispose of to the merchants trading thither ; these afterwards sell them into all parts of the world.
PROVEN! Edrisi just told YOU and EVERYONE on this THREAD that
1) Lam Lam was inhabited by JEWS
2) The people of Berissa(Mandingo,Fulani,Hussa), Sulla, Tocrur, and Ghana(Dahomey Yoruba Akan) Attacked these Jews or in other words incursions Raids, violence etc SLAVERY to women and children and Young men
3) there they take numbers of captives, whom they carry away to their own countries, and dispose of to the merchants trading thither ; these afterwards sell them into all parts of the world.
So in other words BLACK JEWS WERE SOLD ALL OVER EARTH This is just one account of HEBREW SLAVERY I got More
This is another historical account
History has recorded the date and cause of the Hebrew immigration into West Africa, after the destruction of Jerusalem ; but the immemorial establishment of the Scenite Jews, who in the whole extent of Barbary are mixed with the Berber population.---------Jewish Encyclopedia, vol. I, pp. 286-7.
So their are Numerous hebrew tribes throughout barbary Hebrews are Barbars
In 1503 the Portuguese king Manuel I found means to build himself a timber fort, he garrisoned it with his followers, and named his settlement Santa Cruz de la Mar Pequeña while his African neighbours called it Dar al Rumi (the Christian’s House.) Santa Cruz was located on the Ridge of Mount Atlas, on the West coast of Morocco."
Don Emanuel, foreseeing the great importance of this place to the navigation of these seas, and to his projected conquest of the western parts of Barbary, took it into his own hands, reimbursing the adventurer who had founded it. Santa Cruz, being thus annexed to the kingdom of Portugal, was soon enlarged and fortified (A.D. l503)
The empire was then divided among several petty sovereigns, generally at variance with each other, it afforded the new colony an opportunity of firmly establishing itself, numbers of discontented Moors and Arabs being induced to tender their allegiance to the Portuguese sovereign.
"The assistance afforded by these people to the Christian garrison, enabled them to make frequent incursions up the country, plundering and seizing upon a great number of the inhabitants, whom they sent over to Europe as slaves"
Santa Cruz de la Mar Pequeña = The importance of the settlement was derived from its position in the trans-Saharan slave trade, and captives were shipped to sugar plantations on the Canary Islands.
Did you catch that brotha It said that Moors(native african) Arabs(black Arabs Ishmeal) plundered Barbary and ENSLAVED BARBARY Hebrews to the WHITE RACE to AMERICA
Did you catch that brotha It said that Moors(native african) Arabs(black Arabs Ishmeal) plundered Barbary and ENSLAVED BARBARY Hebrews to the WHITE RACE to AMERICA
PROVEN! [/QB]
How could the Moors enslave white Europeans if Europe was black at the time?
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Did you catch that brotha It said that Moors(native african) Arabs(black Arabs Ishmeal) plundered Barbary and ENSLAVED BARBARY Hebrews to the WHITE RACE to AMERICA
PROVEN!
How could the Moors enslave white Europeans if Europe was black at the time? [/QB]
The Europeans that were involved in the Atlantic slave trade in the beginning were White Spanish people(desendants of Turks) who had just conquered the Moors in Spain in grenada.
These White Rulers expelled all BLACKS(Hebrews, Moors,Arabs) from the region of Spain and Portugal. That happen in 14th century.
So up until the 14th century Moors, or HebrewS and Arabs ruled over White Turks in Spain.
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