Anglo has sent me an apology for his former activities on Egypt Search, and, for what it's worth, acknowledgment that the Ancient Egyptians were Black Africans -
Subject: Are you Claus3600? Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 21:13:49 +0000
Are you Claus from Egyptsearch? I saw your email was posted there. Clarify if you are, as I want to tell you something.
Subject: RE: Are you Claus3600? Date Sun, 1 Dec 2013 10:55:00 +0000
What do you want to say?
Subject: RE: Are you Claus3600? Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 16:28:07 +0000
Claus,
I want to apologize for my comments and behavior. This is sincere. I no longer subscribe to virtually any of the theories, or viewpoints I formerly espoused, and have distanced myself from them. This most notably includes the subject of race.
There was no "team". The different stances, ideas, beliefs and so forth which were dug up, stem from the fact I suffer from XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Racism however is something I have increasingly rejected for the last half year. I no longer have any links to any such views, and have renounced them. It is undeniable however I may hold other views which are considered extreme, given my personality. This is something I am not trying to deny.
Here I am being as honest as I can, and it is hard to write. On the subject of race, the turning point was those discussions I was having with someone else on the forum. I then read Jean Hiernaux, Keita, and so forth properly. So, since you only know me really from Egyptsearch - I will just say this since I don't want to dwell on race anymore: the ancient Egyptians were African. Denial of this [and I should know of course] only stems from outdated racial typology (i.e. "Caucasoid") or discredited hierarchical/supremacist race models. There is no evidence for them whatsoever. Even when I was formerly posting such theories, I failed to find modern sources (and I was really the only person with a notable presence online uploading outdated material/translating works - Wiercinski etc). There are few people who will own up to being wrong, I am admitting though I was. Finally I will point out that I have no interest in being your, or anyone else's friend who I previously debated, I am just apologizing to those I may have offended, setting the record straight and moving on and trying to better my health.
Subject: RE: Are you Claus3600? Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 17:25:34 +0000
In your opinion therefore, are people right when they describe the ancient Egyptians as predominantly 'black Africans', regardless of whether 'black' refers to populations from the Horn of Africa, or groups such as the Tutsis?
Look forward to reading your response.
Subject: RE: Are you Claus3600? Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 00:02:34 +0000
Yes they are correct. Two sources from Keita, I had access through a classics archive, which explains this -
Keita, S. O. Y. (1993a) “Black Athena: ‘Race,’ Bernal and Snowden”. Arethusa. xxvi. pp. 295-314. Keita, S. O. Y. (1993b). “Response to Bernal and Snowden”. Arethusa. xxvi. pp. 329-33.
Everything I posted to you in the last email is true. For me, racialism/racism was delusional and it deteriorated XXXXXXXXXX. I no longer want to write or research this topic, and I have/still am in the process of cutting off all contact. My past is terrible, however I have better help, and am trying to improve.
Sent: 02 December 2013 01:59:49 OK. Good luck with getting yourself sorted out.
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Whether this is genuine, or self-preservation I don't know; I do know that a lot of his internet posts have been deleted over the last several months, including - rather suspiciously - some of those Egypt Search threads where his identity was revealed.
However, whether he is being sincere is not really my concern. I'm happy that, along with efforts from Badumtish and Troll Patrol, I played a role in identifying him; making him end - and delete - his racist postings across the internet; having him renounce his scientific racism; and getting his acceptance that the Ancient Egyptians were Black Africans. With regards to the latter, when, in June 2012, I stated that he recognize this as part of my terms for not pursuing him, he replied "Hell no" - good to see progress having been made.
If Anglo genuinely has been unwell then I really do hope that he gets better, although I do also want the above to serve as an example to those remaining, active cyberspace racists.
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This is very interesting.I remember some of his posts and always felt he was just trolling.I do not doubt the sincerity of his apology.
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quote:Originally posted by Ponsford: This is very interesting.I remember some of his posts and always felt he was just trolling.I do not doubt the sincerity of his apology.
I find it amazing that he was finally able to see, and accept the truth. Usually once White people get into their delusions, there is no getting out of them - eh Doxie.
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Awww look at the wittle Bwack supwemcists patting each other on the back because they managed to brow beat a White person into giving up his pride & betraying his own people.
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: I believe it was DJ who first posted that racism is a form of mental illness.
Yeah and for obvious reasons! LOL
I told y'all didn't I?? I've been saying it all along that Anglo is suffering from something mental! And I don't say this to be funny as mental illness is a serious issue. I'm just saying, there is no way a person would cite and espouse such debunked rubbish from a from the early part of the century while ignoring more scientifically accurate sources not to mention contradict himself on certain points over and over again without having some kind of psychological affliction!
Now that I've read Claus's correspondence with him above, I do feel sorry for him and hope he gets the medical treatment he needs.
Now, what do we do about the Abaza troll who pops in and out of this forum to ruin threads or that one poster who tries in vain to disguise herself as a black woman while posting Euronut nonsense? I'm hoping they not only admit defeat but admit they have problems and seek treatment as well. Posts: 26237 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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How is he betraying his people? Claiming the A. Egyptians are African/Black based off the available evidence is "Betraying" your people?
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Awww look at the wittle Bwack supwemcists patting each other on the back because they managed to brow beat a White person into giving up his pride & betraying his own people.
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Jari, no not the AE part (I myself have stated they were not White), but the fact that they harassed & brow beat him into stating that my people & his people do not exist & giving up defending mine & his people.
I've noticed that NONE of you harass or brow beat Mike, Troll Patrol, Clyde, Kikuyu, Mena7, & crew with their racist the Celts were Black, the Vikings were Black, all the Kings & Queens in Europe were Black, etc but boy let a White person come in a claim that the AEs or any other African civilization was White and look at, you come out in force. Talk about racist & hypocrites.
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I kinda feel bad for him tbh. I hope he can get past his illness..
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First off his comments went past simply definding his people. Second you should do some research on me debating Mike, Clyde etc. on their desperate and stupid claims at stealing others history, the fact is Both a pseudo-scholars who will keep on distorting the truth no matter what I say, so I stopped wasting my time.
You need to calm down, hosestly not everyone agree with Mike on this site.
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Jari, no not the AE part (I myself have stated they were not White), but the fact that they harassed & brow beat him into stating that my people & his people do not exist & giving up defending mine & his people.
I've noticed that NONE of you harass or brow beat Mike, Troll Patrol, Clyde, Kikuyu, Mena7, & crew with their racist the Celts were Black, the Vikings were Black, all the Kings & Queens in Europe were Black, etc but boy let a White person come in a claim that the AEs or any other African civilization was White and look at, you come out in force. Talk about racist & hypocrites.
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That guy use to stalk me around the internet trying to find whatever dirt he could on me, but he never could. He also did it to others.
@DHDoxies
Thats because no one takes Mike111 and Clyde seriously but you...-__-
As for Troll Patrol I never seen where he posted anything racist or against white people. I don't know about Kikuyu, but Mena7 has an habit of posting pseudo stuff.
Your the problem since you take those two seriously. And where have we on Egyptsearch clamed the Vikings or Celts were black??? See what I mean? Because you never expanded more on Egyptsearch and tried to communicate with the more sane member thus why you make these silly posts. No offense. And Anglo was obviously a racist who use to post peoples private pictures on public forums without their permission. No there is nothing hypocrite about this.
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It was clear a day this dude suffered the anger/fear/love/hate/envy complex viz a viz black men more commonly seen with storm fronters. His choice of subject and tone were obvious pointers to his psychological state. Sometimes I wonder without black people to fixate on and externalise their issues,what would the Anglos of this world do?
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quote:Originally posted by Son of Ra: Thats because no one takes Mike111 and Clyde seriously but you.
Who takes YOU seriously?
That is not a rhetorical question.
You have no knowledge to share.
You accept no knowledge from anyone else.
Your whole point of being seems to be to guard against those who expand out of Africa. Black Africans are not that bad off. Your conflicted psyche suggests that you are a mulatto. Are you a North African mulatto like I believe Jari is?
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quote:Originally posted by Son of Ra: Thats because no one takes Mike111 and Clyde seriously but you.
Who takes YOU seriously?
That is not a rhetorical question.
You have no knowledge to share.
You accept no knowledge from anyone else.
Your whole point of being seems to be to guard against those who expand out of Africa. Black Africans are not that bad off. Your conflicted psyche suggests that you are a mulatto. Are you a North African mulatto like I believe Jari is?
I believe Ra is a generic Euronut--not mulatto. He acts like the average liberal who wants to guide AA people in what they research and write about.
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Awww look at the wittle Bwack supwemcists patting each other on the back because they managed to brow beat a White person into giving up his pride & betraying his own people.
Pride is exactly your problem. You are blinded by hate!
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He sent a similar message to me on TSR too, admitting ownership of all the other accounts I found as well as having a couple of mental illnesses. Part of me is sceptical it is even him (given that he was so pertinacious), but his writing style and username are true to form.
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Awww look at the wittle Bwack supwemcists patting each other on the back because they managed to brow beat a White person into giving up his pride & betraying his own people.
Lol, on a debate and discussion forum, you have a problem with people having a debate and discussion? Or is it because he finally accepted our arguments?
Out of interest, why do you even come to this forum? You don't like anyone here and have made it clear on several occasions that you only want to associate with your 'own people'. It's not like you even have any debates/present academic counter-evidence, etc. You just post various permutations of the same message ([insert name here] you kill whitey, white-people hating, black racist, etc.) in a significant number of threads.
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Ahem...what makes SOR think some of the Vikings weren't black? Did he read up on the aDNA of the vikings? That is why you are a suspicious dude. I am not sure what they were but they carried recent African lineage. He need to "get out more".
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Dhoxie is one of the owners....what do you think? As I said I second guess what is written in books. aDNA is the next best thing to time travel.
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Dhoxie is one of the owners....what do you think? As I said I second guess what is written in books. aDNA is the next best thing to time travel.
Only if they give all the data. Sometimes researchers will not publish the outliners.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Ahem...what makes SOR think some of the Vikings weren't black? Did he read up on the aDNA of the vikings? That is why you are a suspicious dude. I am not sure what they were but they carried recent African lineage. He need to "get out more".
Hmm, I have never heard of that before.
Can you make a thread on this subject?
By the way people, most likely it was the discussions with Swenet. Who discussed anthropological means with Anglo. He always had a hard time with Swenet.
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ESR. "Not even the Vikings were white". There are a few aDNA studies on the Vikings. One that I remember specifically talked about error in the "historical" records. The aDNA dissproved the "books" about who was buried there and the relationships.
Maybe TP can dig up more aDNA on the Vikings. I only have a few. Careful now, I am not saying the Vikings were black. There evidently there were black elements. I believe the "explanation" was .....slave descendant.
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As I said. Europe is a geographic and genetic subset of Africa.
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I am saying the same thing to SOR as I told Ultimate. When you gaffe at stuff be prepared to back it up. This is not Hollywood. Ha! Ha!
Otherwise sit back enjoy the ride..,...shhhhhh... Be quiet. Scholars at work, if you have nothing to contribute to the discussion .
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No comment on Cass. Sorry Dhoxie. As I said about Beyoku's ....I have no proof.
Cass, change of heart? Let him admit it on ES.
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I have resisted posting this for fear of driving Doxie over the edge. Oh well, Que Sera, Sera.
Black Vikings
Below are a few of the many references to Black Vikings in ancient texts.
BACKGROUND - Inscriptions, Sagas, and Annals.
Vikings were not very literate; they made inscriptions in runes (related alphabets) on wood, bone, and stone. Their history is compiled from these and their Sagas. Sagas are stories about ancient Scandinavians and Germanic peoples; and about early Viking voyages and battles in prose form. Annals were originally a means by which monks determined the yearly chronology of feast days. Over time, obituaries were added, along with notable political events.
Saga of Thorfinn Karlsefne - 1007 A.D.
p. 218- 219
There was a man hight Thorvard; he married Freydis, a natural daughter of Erik the Red; he went also with them, and Thorvald the son of Erik, 1 and Thorhall who was called the hunter; he had long been with Erik, and served him as huntsman in summer and steward in winter; he was a large man, and strong, black and like a giant, silent and foul-mouthed in his speech.
Egil's Saga
Chapter 1
Kveldulf and his wife had two sons, the elder was named Thorolf, the younger Grim; these, when they grew up, were both tall men and strong, as was their father. But Thorolf was most comely as well as doughty, favoring his mother's kin; very cheery was he, liberal, impetuous in everything, a good trader, winning the hearts of all men. Grim was swarthy, ill-favoured, like his father both in face and mind.
Egil's Saga
Chapter 55
Egil was large-featured, broad of forehead, with large eyebrows, a nose not long but very thick, lips wide and long, chin exceeding broad, as was all about the jaws; thick-necked was he, and big-shouldered beyond other men, hard-featured, and grim when angry. He was well-made, more than commonly tall, had hair wolf-gray and thick, but became early bald. He was black-eyed and brown-skinnedPosts: 22721 | Registered: Oct 2005
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Wiping tears away. You got to admit Mike the gal..man is funny.
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quote:Originally posted by Son of Ra: Thats because no one takes Mike111 and Clyde seriously but you.
Who takes YOU seriously?
That is not a rhetorical question.
You have no knowledge to share.
You accept no knowledge from anyone else.
Your whole point of being seems to be to guard against those who expand out of Africa. Black Africans are not that bad off. Your conflicted psyche suggests that you are a mulatto. Are you a North African mulatto like I believe Jari is?
And yet I still do not take you seriously.
Seriously whats your problem? First I was a Turk, then African, then Albino and now a North African mulatto.
I do not not qualify as a mulatto since I DO NOT have a white/European parent. I am more of a dougla if you even know what that is.
Your delusional.
@Clyde Winters
Sorry...Not taking your pseudo-science/historic spam does not qualify me as a Euronut or a Liberal. LOL!
I DARE you to prove that I am a Euro. When have I made claims that indicate that I am one. Do I need to bring up my debates with racist Anglo on Historum???
Again NO SANE person takes your nonsense seriously besides other nuts like Mike111.
@xyyman
Please don't project things onto me.
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If Son of Ra is dougla-it means Black and Indian like in my country and Trinidad and Tobago.
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Wiping tears away. You got to admit Mike the gal..man is funny.
this is an actual quote from stewart synopsis
they dont think it's funny
Sir Lancelot was not an albino, far from it, " he walked with a limp, though not ailing... fine ladies of Berwick would refer to him as Prince de Chocolat -Annals of Lord Barry, 1598"
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^I have meant people from both countries, though sometimes backward regarding Europeans, I have never encountered one as stunted as Ra, which makes me doubt his veracity. Now if he had said full coolie, IN India, or fresh from India, then I would believe him.
The reason for that is that Hindu's are notorious Albino lovers. Those who are Brown curse their bad luck. They allowed tiny little England to rule their huge country for over 100 years, despite countless atrocities. All because they so love the Albino fruit of their Dravidians loins. Some Indians are getting worried about the Albino worship, hence news stories like this:
Indians have black skin that highlights gold jewellery: Chinese daily
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Ok I admit it like Mike, Xyyman, Clyde, Troll Patrol,& ilk say, the Vikings were Black, the Celts were Black, the Anglo Saxons were Black, the Goths were Black, the Vandals were Black, the Lombards were Black, the Seuvi were Black, everyone was Black. As Mike, Clyde, Xyyboy & ilk say Whites have no history, no heritage, no identity to speak of, no homeland, no ancestors, no accomplishments, nothing to be proud of, we just popped up out of nowhere & are not even human & don't belong on planet earth. How's that?
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quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Ok I admit it like Mike, Xyyman, Clyde, Troll Patrol,& ilk say, the Vikings were Black, the Celts were Black, the Anglo Saxons were Black, the Goths were Black, the Vandals were Black, the Lombards were Black, the Seuvi were Black, everyone was Black. As Mike, Clyde, Xyyboy & ilk say Whites have no history, no heritage, no identity to speak of, no homeland, no ancestors, no accomplishments, nothing to be proud of, we just popped up out of nowhere & are not even human & don't belong on planet earth. How's that?
I believe the term for that is sarcasm.
Sarcasm is hardly the path to truth and enlightenment.
You came here with your set of dogmatic beliefs, and steadfastly refused to modify them in light of new bona fide information. Others do the same thing I know. But now that you are being called out on it, your tactic is a faux surrender. Fine with me, ignorant White people are not a problem for me.
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Better late then never for Cassiteride aka Anglopyramidologist to learn that Ancient Egypt was a black African civilization. The ancient testimonies of eyewitnesses and scholars and the black looking Egyptian statues was good enough to convinced me Egyptian civilization was black African.
LOL Prince de Chocolat Lioness is funny and she know all the Afrocentric website.
I have never heard of an Afrocentric Indian scholar. The Indian knows many world history secrets.
DHDoxies many white Europeans are the descendant of bleach black Europeans and bleach black Africans so you can say you are the descendant of bleach black Europeans.
Saint Nicholas (270–6 December 343), also called Nikolaos of Myra, was a historic 4th-century saint and Greek Bishop of Myra (Demre, in Lycia, part of modern-day Turkey). Because of the many miracles attributed to his intercession, he is also known as Nikolaos the Wonderworker while in the Russian Orthodox Church the name is translated "St. Nikolai The Miracle Creator". He had a reputation for secret gift-giving, such as putting coins in the shoes of those who left them out for him, and thus became the model for Santa Claus, whose modern name comes from the Dutch Sinterklaas. His reputation evolved among the faithful, as was common for early Christian saints. In 1087, his relics were furtively transferred to Bari, in southeastern Italy; for this reason, he is also known as Nikolaos of Bari.
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Yep Mike it was sarcasm. You Kill Whitey, wanna harm White children, White people hating, Black racist will do anything to harm Whitey to get Whitey, to harm White children/white youth by denying them of what is rightfully their birthright. Your first thought when you wake up in the morning is how can I harm White children today, your next thought is Kill Whitey, Get Whitey, Kill Whitey get him get him. White children have the right to their homeland, they have a right to know where they came from, who their ancestors are, who they are, what their heritage is, what their ancestors have accomplished, they have a right to be proud as White children, that they have value even as you try to tell them that they don't, have a right to exist even though you seek to destroy them.
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quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Yep Mike it was sarcasm. You Kill Whitey, wanna harm White children, White people hating, Black racist will do anything to harm Whitey to get Whitey, to harm White children/white youth by denying them of what is rightfully their birthright. Your first thought when you wake up in the morning is how can I harm White children today, your next thought is Kill Whitey, Get Whitey, Kill Whitey get him get him. White children have the right to their homeland, they have a right to know where they came from, who their ancestors are, who they are, what their heritage is, what their ancestors have accomplished, they have a right to be proud as White children, that they have value even as you try to tell them that they don't, have a right to exist even though you seek to destroy them.
Err, Doxie, last I heard you were still a virgin. What's all the talk about White children, are you claiming a virgin birth?
Anyway, I love White children, all children really, so you should really teach them their history. But you should also teach them that Black history is not their history, except as human history.
You should also teach them that it was you Albinos who made the distinction, and now that you have, Blacks will be happy to carry it on.
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quote:Originally posted by Son of Ra: Thats because no one takes Mike111 and Clyde seriously but you.
Who takes YOU seriously?
That is not a rhetorical question.
You have no knowledge to share.
You accept no knowledge from anyone else.
Your whole point of being seems to be to guard against those who expand out of Africa. Black Africans are not that bad off. Your conflicted psyche suggests that you are a mulatto. Are you a North African mulatto like I believe Jari is?
And yet I still do not take you seriously.
Seriously whats your problem? First I was a Turk, then African, then Albino and now a North African mulatto.
I do not not qualify as a mulatto since I DO NOT have a white/European parent. I am more of a dougla if you even know what that is.
Your delusional.
@Clyde Winters
Sorry...Not taking your pseudo-science/historic spam does not qualify me as a Euronut or a Liberal. LOL!
I DARE you to prove that I am a Euro. When have I made claims that indicate that I am one. Do I need to bring up my debates with racist Anglo on Historum???
Again NO SANE person takes your nonsense seriously besides other nuts like Mike111.
@xyyman
Please don't project things onto me.
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I work with Hindu's/Indians in the technical field i am in . They are deceptive and plays the kiss ass game very well. Most . Funny thing is they are looked upon as black in the quota sense.
Not sure if it is learnt, cultural or genetic. Both DJ and SOR has that personality. East Asians are more upstanding and upfront and proud. Like Africans. DJ does not have that personality .
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