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I was just wondering if there were West African societies or civilizations about as old as Kmt Greece, Macedonia, Rome bla bla. If so what did they do?
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Coping with uncertainty: Neolithic life in the Dhar Tichitt-Walata, Mauritania, (ca. 4000–2300 BP)

Augustin F.C. Holl


Abstract
The sandstone escarpment of the Dhar Tichitt in South-Central Mauritania was inhabited by Neolithic agropastoral communities for approximately one and half millennium during the Late Holocene, from ca. 4000 to 2300 BP. The absence of prior evidence of human settlement points to the influx of mobile herders moving away from the “drying” Sahara towards more humid lower latitudes. These herders took advantage of the peculiarities of the local geology and environment and succeeded in domesticating bulrush millet – Pennisetum sp. The emerging agropastoral subsistence complex had conflicting and/or complementary requirements depending on circumstances. In the long run, the social adjustment to the new subsistence complex, shifting site location strategies, nested settlement patterns and the rise of more encompassing polities appear to have been used to cope with climatic hazards in this relatively circumscribed area. An intense arid spell in the middle of the first millennium BC triggered the collapse of the whole Neolithic agropastoral system and the abandonment of the areas. These regions, resettled by sparse oasis-dwellers populations and iron-using communities starting from the first half of the first millennium AD, became part of the famous Ghana “empire”, the earliest state in West African history.


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The site of Timbucktu was an even earlier civilization going back to the time of the Greeks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9LkpJdll9A
klik the vid
And off course there is the Nok civilization in Nigeria going back to 1000 B,C

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The ruins of a 200,000 years old civilization was discovered in South Africa by Michael Tellinger.

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Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa


By Dan Eden for viewzone.
They have always been there. People noticed them before. But no one could remember who made them -- or why? Until just recently, no one even knew how many there were. Now they are everywhere -- thousands -- no, hundreds of thousands of them! And the story they tell is the most important story of humanity. But it's one we might not be prepared to hear.

Something amazing has been discovered in an area of South Africa, about 150 miles inland, west of the port of Maputo. It is the remains of a huge metropolis that measures, in conservative estimates, about 1500 square miles. It's part of an even larger community that is about 10,000 square miles and appears to have been constructed -- are you ready -- from 160,000 to 200,000 BCE!

The image [top of page] is a close-up view of just a few hundred meters of the landscape taken from google-earth. The region is somewhat remote and the "circles" have often been encountered by local farmers who assumed they were made by some indigenous people in the past. But, oddly, no one ever bothered to inquire about who could have made them or how old they were.

This changed when researcher and author, Michael Tellinger, teamed up with Johan Heine, a local fireman and pilot who had been looking at these ruins from his years flying over the region. Heine had the unique advantage to see the number and extent of these strange stone foundations and knew that their significance was not being appreciated.


"When Johan first introduced me to the ancient stone ruins of southern Africa, I had no idea of the incredible discoveries we would make in the year or two that followed. The photographs, artifacts and evidence we have accumulated points unquestionably to a lost and never-before-seen civilization that predates all others -- not by just a few hundred years, or a few thousand years... but many thousands of years. These discoveries are so staggering that they will not be easily digested by the mainstream historical and archaeological fraternity, as we have already experienced. It will require a complete paradigm shift in how we view our human history. " -- Tellinger

http://www.viewzone.com/adamscalendar.html

http://www.viewzone2.com/adamscalendar22.html

http://www.viewzone2.com/adamscalendar33.html

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Adams_Calendar/Adams_Calendar.htm

Adams calendar video.
http://youtu.be/NH1wgwe6udo

Clyde Winters wrote a book about the green Sahara Maa confederation that was created in 50,000 BC.

The Maa confederation video
http://youtu.be/xBb-sBoR0ts

The Wagadu Empire or Ghana Empire was created in 4000 BC. In the 14 cent CE the Malian Sultan Ibn Amir Hajib on his way back to a pilgrimage in Mecca told Arab historian Chihab Al Umari that West Africa oral traditions described transatlantic voyages from Ghana/Wagadu as early as the 9 cent BC.

African Historical ruins you don't see on TV with a nice instrumental music.
http://youtu.be/pspFolOHrfI

Pyramids discovered in Niger may prove that the Egyptian civilization started in West Africa and moved North East to included Tchad, Sudan, Ethiopia and Egypt. According to Egyptian historian Manetho and Greek historian Herodotus the Egyptian civilization was created in 20,000 BC. John Anthony West discovered that water erosion on the Sphinx of Giza dated 10,000 BC.

Pyramid of Niger video.
http://youtu.be/FIVWser0lBQ

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quote:
Originally posted by Oshun:
I was just wondering if there were West African societies or civilizations about as old as Kmt Greece, Macedonia, Rome bla bla. If so what did they do?

Wagadou/Dhar Tichitt is about 3,000 BCE, ancient Egypt is about 3100 BCE. There is also one called Kukiya, though I dont think they have found its location yet.
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Wagadu and Germa were rivals going back to antiquity. They set the bar for later kingdoms like Mali and Kanem. Really the wellspring of Saharan civilization is located somewhere around Lake Chad. And remember the so-called black mummy of Uan Muhuggiag is roughly 5,000 years old.
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quote:
Originally posted by HERU:
Wagadu and Germa were rivals going back to antiquity. They set the bar for later kingdoms like Mali and Kanem. Really the wellspring of Saharan civilization is located somewhere around Lake Chad. And remember the so-called black mummy of Uan Muhuggiag is roughly 5,000 years old.

Correct. This was the Maa Civilization

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