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.The Dogon of Mali are descendants of ancient philistines,those PALESTINIANS of today are descendants of Ancient Edomites(Esau).According to the bible Genesis 10:6,14,these black ancient phistines were black africans descendants of mizraim(West benue congo speakers),descendant of HAM(Father of all black africans).They named themselves Dogon after the Ancient philistine half man-half fish deity DAGON.The Dogon of Mali west africa also worship Half man-half fish deities NOMMOS which they believe came from star sirius.Hence the philistine deity DAGON was a Nommo from the star sirius.After the semitic expansion of palestine/canaan,where the semitic Edomites sided with semitic Assyrians and chased away these black ancient philistines into egypt together with Black hyksos canaanites(bantus) but these philistines (Dogon tribe) migrated to west africa where they named themselves DOGON after their deity Dagon.DOGON=People of Dagon/children of Dagon.Both Kalenjin and Dogon tribe of Mali had advance knowledge of Astronomy at a time the whole of europe and asia thought the earth was flat.Both knew about Star SIRIUS,and both knew about the Sun,planets and solar system.Both Kalenjin and Dogon,practise a form of Female circumcision known as PHARAONIC TYPE III.Both had secret societies who were involved in conducting rites of passage(circumcision),and teaching astronomy to initiates.e.g the Kalenjin KA-KIPTA(house of Ptah) pronounced KAGYPTA.Which is also the term Ancient greeks used to describe egyptians AIGYPTOS.The so called greek philosophy was founded from Kalenjin philosophy.
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The Dogon origin story does not point to the Middle East they place their origin in Africa.
The creation of the world was the deed of the god Amma, the one god and image of the father who existed before all things. Following an unsuccessful initial attempt, from which he salvaged only the four elements (water, earth, fire, and air), Amma placed in the "egg of the world," or the original placenta, two pairs of androgynous twins in the form of fish . Their gestation inside the egg was interrupted by an act of rebellion: one of the male beings, Yurugu prematurely left the "mother" (the placenta), deserting both "her" and his female counterpart, thus prefiguring the birth of single beings even though Amma had envisaged twin births.
The solitary being descended into space and primordial darkness, taking with him a piece of the placenta that became Earth. Aware of his solitude, he traveled through space, attempted to reascend to heaven to join his female twin again, and even sought her out in the bowels of Earth, an incestuous act that brought to a climax the disorder he had already introduced into the world by leaving the placenta. The piece of placenta rotted and thus death appeared on earth. Amma put an end to the male being's disorderly acts by transforming him into a jackal, an animal that occupies a very important position in Dogon ideology. This small, wild creature, which is known more properly as Vulpes pallida, goes about only at night and never drinks water from ponds near the village-which, for the Dogon, explains why the fox was chosen to symbolize this enemy of light, water, fertility, and civilization. [But this "pale fox" also learned the first power 'word' and ever since then can reveal the future and hidden truths to those who can read his tracks properly.]
Unable to restore total order to his universe, Amma sought to mitigate the disorder let loose by the jackal; he sacrificed Nommo, the other male twin who had stayed in the egg. Nommo's dismembered body purified the four cardinal points of the universe, and the blood that flowed forth gave birth to various heavenly bodies, edible plants, and animals. Amma then burst a minuscule grain into which he had "rolled" all the elements of creation; these elements emptied into an ark of pure earth (the remains of the placenta). In that ark Amma also placed Nommo, whom he had already brought back to life, and his other "sons," the four pairs of heterosexual twins who are the ancestors of the human race. He lowered the ark from the heavens by means of a copper chain; the ark crashed onto Yurugu's earth at the time of the first rainfall, which formed the first pool of water. The sun also rose for the first time. Nommo went to live in the pool while the eight ancestors settled on the spot where they had landed. Using the pure earth from their ark, these ancestors created the first cultivated field, and cultivation then spread throughout Yurugu's impure earth (the bush). The ancestors initially communicated by means of cries and grunts until one of the Nommo twins, the master of water, life, speech, and fertility, taught them language at the same time that he instructed them in the art of weaving. He then revealed to the ancestors such other fundamental techniques as agriculture, blacksmithing, dance, and music. The first human society was thus founded; marriage was introduced when the ancestors exchanged sisters.
The four male ancestors founded the four major religious cults, which are also the pillars of social organization; among the Dogon, social order cannot be dissociated from religion. The eldest of the ancestors, Amma Seru ("witness of Amma"), is associated with the creator god and with air (sky).The ancestor Binu Seru is associated with water, and his ritual is celebrated in sanctuaries whose facades are periodically redecorated with paintings done in thin millet paste . The ancestor Lebe Seru ("witness of Lebe") who, having died, was subsequently brought back to life in the form of a large snake; this ancestor is associated with Earth (the planet and soil, as well as the mythic archetype Earth), and with vegetation. The fourth ancestor, Dyongu Seru ("witness of healing") was in effect the first human to die, following the breach of an interdiction. His cult is celebrated by the mask society (which exists only on the cliff and on the plateau) and is associated with fire, death, the wilderness (in his role as hunter and healer), and, consequently, disorder-connections that, in turn, link his cult with the mythical fox Yurugu who, on a more mundane level, is commemorated in divination rites.
Because of a dispute in their Mande homeland, four brothers of supernatural origin decided to leave Mande and found a new land where their descendants might live peacefully. Before leaving, they took a symbolic emblem of fertility and continuity. In different versions, this symbol takes the form of either a duge, an amulet left them by their supernatural ancestor, Lebe Serou, or a piece of the earth of Lebe Serou's tomb in which this ancestor had died and was reborn as a serpent. During their migration, Dyon, the eldest, rides on a horse carrying Arou, the youngest, on his shoulders. The two other brothers, Domno and Ono, accompany them. As the four brothers reach the cliffs, Arou shouts out a claim to all the land. Enraged by his youngest brother's boldness and disregard of the proper order of descent and inheritance, Dyon abandons Arou at the side of the road. Arou encounters an old woman at the side of the road who is pleased by his respectful manner and offers him gifts of supernatural value. These gifts will later serve the migrants with the tools of defense, domestication of animals, and rain-making. Arou receives these supernatural gifts and rejoins his brothers. Together the four brothers found the new land.
[Synopsized from Encyclopedia of Religion (NY:MacMillan,1987), vol.4,pp.393-95]
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I am perplexed that you are quick to believe dogon MYTH OF ORIGIN,but you are not ready to believe in the bible,which is the most unbiased historical source.You must be able to draw the line between ORAL HISTORY and MYTH OF ORIGIN.There is a reason they are called "myth of origin" you know.because they are stories African Old men tell their grand children inorder to justify their presence in a particular occupied land,even though that particular tribe migrated from a different place to their present location.Now Oral history is much reliable, but in most african societies including the Dogon,they were entrusted only to secret societies,where you had to be initiated to access the tribes information.Unfortunately in africa especially here in kenya,the colonialists targeted the secret societies to destroy them.For example the kikuyu say they came from the leg of mumbi bla,bla,bla somewhere inside mt kenya,NOW THAT IS A MYTH OF ORIGIN.we get the true kikuyu history from the closely related AMERU people,who share the same language with kikuyu although slightly different.The maasai believe they descended from the sky on a large skin to their present location,BUT that is MYTH OF ORIGIN.
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Sorry to break your Bubble but the SEA PEOPLE were not white either but were the Nilo-semitic HATTU,who were Afro-asiatics speaking PROTO-ACCADIAN/PROTO-ELAMITE and today they are located in Ethiopia and are called AMHARA.Just look at an Amhara warrior attire and then look at the so-called Sea people war attire,especially the clothing,headgear,sword and shield,Yes SAME PEOPLE.In population genetics,It is easy to trace Amhara migration from ACCAD to the levant ZIDON to mediterrenean islands e.g CRETE & SICILY,then by sea to LIBYA,Now from Libya to North Sudan/south egypt MEROE & Amarna.Then finally to MODERN ETHIOPIA.This is by following these clades;Y-haplogroups T-M184(xK2),E-M123,E-M34 and mtDNA haplogroups N1,U6.Since Amhara HITTITES intermarried alot with AMORITES(AMERU of kenya),and also settled briefly in egyptianised Amorite town MEROE(MERU).You find the bantu Amorites KIKUYU TRIBE and AMERU of kenya also have mtDNA-N1 & U6,which they got from Amhara HITTITES.
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The SEA PEOPLE were not white either but were the Nilo- semitic HATTU,who were initially bantu(E-M2)but were bottlenecked by Afro-asiatics speaking PROTO-ACCADIAN/PROTO-ELAMITES and today they are located in Ethiopia and are called AMHARA.Just look at an Amhara warrior attire and then look at the so-called Sea people war attire,especially the clothing,headgear,sword and shield,Yes SAME PEOPLE.In population genetics,It is easy to trace Amhara(Hattu) migration from ACCAD to the levant ZIDON to mediterrenean islands(CRETE & SICILY),then by sea to LIBYA,from Libya to North Sudan/south egypt MEROE & Amarna.Then finally to MODERN ETHIOPIA.This is by following these clades;Y-haplogroups T- M184(xK2),E-M123,E-M34 and mtDNA haplogroups N1,U6.Since Amhara HITTITES intermarried alot with AMORITES(AMERU of kenya),and also settled briefly in egyptianised Amorite town MEROE(MERU).You find the bantu Amorites KIKUYU TRIBE and AMERU of kenya also have mtDNA-N1 & U6,which they got from Amhara HITTITES.
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quote:Originally posted by LEDAMA: Sorry to break your Bubble but the SEA PEOPLE were not white either but were the Nilo-semitic HATTU,who were Afro-asiatics speaking PROTO-ACCADIAN/PROTO-ELAMITE and today they are located in Ethiopia and are called AMHARA.Just look at an Amhara warrior attire and then look at the so-called Sea people war attire,especially the clothing,headgear,sword and shield,Yes SAME PEOPLE.In population genetics,It is easy to trace Amhara migration from ACCAD to the levant ZIDON to mediterrenean islands e.g CRETE & SICILY,then by sea to LIBYA,Now from Libya to North Sudan/south egypt MEROE & Amarna.Then finally to MODERN ETHIOPIA.This is by following these clades;Y-haplogroups T-M184(xK2),E-M123,E-M34 and mtDNA haplogroups N1,U6.Since Amhara HITTITES intermarried alot with AMORITES(AMERU of kenya),and also settled briefly in egyptianised Amorite town MEROE(MERU).You find the bantu Amorites KIKUYU TRIBE and AMERU of kenya also have mtDNA-N1 & U6,which they got from Amhara HITTITES.
I am beginning not to take you seriously. The Egyptians make it clear that the Sea people were Northeners. The Amhara speak a Semitic language and live in Ethiopia--not in the North and they did not sail into Egypt.
Moreover, the Meroites called themselves Kushites. The information you are relating has nothing to do with the Bible. You need to read some real history. Where did you get the information you are talking about?
quote:Originally posted by LEDAMA: Sorry to break your Bubble but the SEA PEOPLE were not white either but were the Nilo-semitic HATTU,who were Afro-asiatics speaking PROTO-ACCADIAN/PROTO-ELAMITE and today they are located in Ethiopia and are called AMHARA.Just look at an Amhara warrior attire and then look at the so-called Sea people war attire,especially the clothing,headgear,sword and shield,Yes SAME PEOPLE.In population genetics,It is easy to trace Amhara migration from ACCAD to the levant ZIDON to mediterrenean islands e.g CRETE & SICILY,then by sea to LIBYA,Now from Libya to North Sudan/south egypt MEROE & Amarna.Then finally to MODERN ETHIOPIA.This is by following these clades;Y-haplogroups T-M184(xK2),E-M123,E-M34 and mtDNA haplogroups N1,U6.Since Amhara HITTITES intermarried alot with AMORITES(AMERU of kenya),and also settled briefly in egyptianised Amorite town MEROE(MERU).You find the bantu Amorites KIKUYU TRIBE and AMERU of kenya also have mtDNA-N1 & U6,which they got from Amhara HITTITES.
The Elamites, Proto or otherwise did not speak Akkadian, which is a Semitic language. Elamite is related to the Niger-Congo languages.
The ancients were sure the Kushites had founded the Elamite civilization. According to Strabo, the Roman geographer the first Elamite colony of Susa, was founded by Tithonus, a King of Kush, and father of Memnon. Strabo in Book 15,chapter 3,728, wrote that "In fact, it is claimed that Susa was founded by Tithonus Memnon's father, and that his citadel bore the name Memnonium. The Susians are also called Cissians; and Aeschylus, calls Memnon's mother Cissia. Elam The most important Kushite colony in Iran was Elam. The Elamites like other Africans practiced the custom of matrilineal descent.
The history of Elam is usually divided into three periods the Kings of Awan, Kings of Simashki and the Sukkalmah period. For over 300 years the Elamite Kings of Awan ruled Elam, and much of Mesopotamia.Much of this period is unknown. During the 3rd Millennium B.C., the Elamites and Su people (a term used for mountain people in the Western Zagros) sacked Ur. The King of the Dynasty of Simaskhi, led to Elamite rule in Sumer. The first king of the Simashki Dynasty was Girnamme.
In Sumer, the Elamites contributed nuch to Sumerian civilization. The Elamite Kings of Sumer were called the Kings of Kish.
After a Sumerian King of Kish pushed the Elamites out of Mesopotamia, Elam went into a period of chaos until around 2500 B.C., when King Peli became the ruler of Elam. After Peli, there were six other Elamite Kings until Elam was conquered by Sargon of Akkad.
Before the Sukkalmah period (c.1900-1500 B.C.) much of what we know about Elam comes from the Akkadian sources. This period is called the Sukkalmah period, because the rulers of Elam were called Sukkalmah ‘grand regent”. The Elamite title for king ws sunkir.
During the Sukkahmah Dynasty there was a tripartite system of rule. The Susa text indicate that there was a senior ruler called sukkalmah ‘grand regent’ of Elam and Shimashki, he was usually the brother of the sukkahmah, and a junior co-regent, entitled sukkal of Susa. This nephew was usually from the maternal side of the King’s family. Thus the sukkal of Susa was often called the ruhusak ‘sister’s son’
The first rulers of the Sukkamah period was Eabarat (=Eparti). He was followed by the ruhusak Addahushu, the “sukkal and magustrate of the people of Susa”. He is known mostly for his building of several temples and the erection of his “justic stele” outlining the laws of Elam .
The Elamites/Old Persians were probably descendants of the Mande people. This is obvious in the language and names of the Elamite Kings. I hope you remember the book Roots, the main character Kunte Kinte. His name is interesting because we have the following ruler during the Sukkalmah Dynasty: Kutur-Nahhunte I (c. 1752) who conquered southern Babylonia The name Kutur Nahhunte, would correspond to a popular Mande name Kunte among the Mande speaking people. The Elamite name Peli, is also popular among the Mande, in the form of Pe, this name was also common among the Olmec people of ancient Mexico.
It should also be noted that the Mande term for people is Si, this corresponds to the word Su, used to designate the mountain people of Elam. The Elamite term Su would correspond to the Mande termSi-u (the /u/ is the plural suffix in the Mande language).
By the 2nd Millennium B.C., a new more aggressive dynasty appeared in Elam. The Kings of this Dynasty called themselves ‘divine messenger, father and king’ of Susa and Anzan. One of the rulers of this Dynasty was Shutruk-Nahhunte. Shutruk-Nahhunte, like Kutur invaded Mesopotamia and took Babylon around 1160B.C.
After Kutur took Babylon, the Elamites ruled Babylon until Hammurabi defeated the Elamite King Rin-Sin. Later the Elamites were driven from Larsa and other Sumerian cities back to the Susiana plains.
quote:Originally posted by LEDAMA: I am perplexed that you are quick to believe dogon MYTH OF ORIGIN,but you are not ready to believe in the bible,which is the most unbiased historical source.You must be able to draw the line between ORAL HISTORY and MYTH OF ORIGIN.There is a reason they are called "myth of origin" you know.because they are stories African Old men tell their grand children inorder to justify their presence in a particular occupied land,even though that particular tribe migrated from a different place to their present location.Now Oral history is much reliable, but in most african societies including the Dogon,they were entrusted only to secret societies,where you had to be initiated to access the tribes information.Unfortunately in africa especially here in kenya,the colonialists targeted the secret societies to destroy them.For example the kikuyu say they came from the leg of mumbi bla,bla,bla somewhere inside mt kenya,NOW THAT IS A MYTH OF ORIGIN.we get the true kikuyu history from the closely related AMERU people,who share the same language with kikuyu although slightly different.The maasai believe they descended from the sky on a large skin to their present location,BUT that is MYTH OF ORIGIN.
Please provide a sample of the Ameru language, and cognate Kikuyu terms.
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SONS OF HAM; 1)CUSH/KUSH=NILOTES(NILO-SAHARAN) 2)MIZRAIMS=PYGMIES & WEST AFRICANS(Niger congo A) 3)PHUT=KHOISAN 4)CANAAN=BANTUS(Niger congo B)
Actually these are also the four main languages spoken in Africa.Considering the fact Afro-asiatic e.g Chadic,Amazigh,Cushitic are NILOTIC CONTINUITY.a proven fact.
SONS OF KUSH(NILOTES) 1)SEBA=Maa-speakers(sabaeans) e.g maasai,samburu,lotuko group 2)HAVILLAH=Tigray and Tigrinya group 3)SABTAH=Nuer,dinka,shilluk,anuak,luo peoples group 4)RAAMAH=Kalenjin,datooga & Omotic group. 5)SABTECHA=Nuba,Turkana,karamajong,Toposa group. 6)NIMROD=Dravidians.
SONS OF RAAMAH(proto kalenjin rmT) 1)SHEBA=Oromo 2)DEDAN=Somali.
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quote:Originally posted by LEDAMA: SONS OF HAM; 1)CUSH/KUSH=NILOTES(NILO-SAHARAN) 2)MIZRAIMS=PYGMIES & WEST AFRICANS(Niger congo A) 3)PHUT=KHOISAN 4)CANAAN=BANTUS(Niger congo B)
Actually these are also the four main languages spoken in Africa.Considering the fact Afro-asiatic e.g Chadic,Amazigh,Cushitic are NILOTIC CONTINUITY.a proven fact.
SONS OF KUSH(NILOTES) 1)SEBA=Maa-speakers(sabaeans) e.g maasai,samburu,lotuko group 2)HAVILLAH=Tigray and Tigrinya group 3)SABTAH=Nuer,dinka,shilluk,anuak,luo peoples group 4)RAAMAH=Kalenjin,datooga & Omotic group. 5)SABTECHA=Nuba,Turkana,karamajong,Toposa group. 6)NIMROD=Dravidians.
SONS OF RAAMAH(proto kalenjin rmT) 1)SHEBA=Oromo 2)DEDAN=Somali.
How did you arrive at these identities. What are your sources?
Genesis does not identify Sabtah as Nuer and etc.
quote:Genesis 10:6-14New International Version (NIV)
The Hamites
6 The sons of Ham:
Cush, Egypt, Put and Canaan.
7 The sons of Cush:
Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah and Sabteka.
The sons of Raamah:
Sheba and Dedan.
8 Cush was the father[a] of Nimrod, who became a mighty warrior on the earth. 9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; that is why it is said, “Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the Lord.” 10 The first centers of his kingdom were Babylon, Uruk, Akkad and Kalneh, in Shinar.[c] 11 From that land he went to Assyria, where he built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir,[d] Calah 12 and Resen, which is between Nineveh and Calah—which is the great city.
13 Egypt was the father of
the Ludites, Anamites, Lehabites, Naphtuhites, 14 Pathrusites, Kasluhites (from whom the Philistines came) and Caphtorites
I have not seen these identifications in any Bible Dictionary. What are your sources?
You said: " Considering the fact Afro-asiatic e.g Chadic,Amazigh,Cushitic are NILOTIC CONTINUITY.a proven fact." What evidence supports this Continuity. Amazigh is of Germanic origin.
Obenga made it clear that AfroAsiatic does not exist and you can not reconstruct the Proto-language.
This is true. Ehret (1995) and Orel/Stolbova (1995) were attempts at comparing Proto-AfroAsiatic. The most interesting fact about these works is that they produced different results. If AfroAsiatic existed they should have arrived at similar results. The major failur of these works is that there is too much synononymy. For example, the Proto-AfroAsiatic synonym for bird has 52 synonyms this is far too many for a single term and illustrates how the researchers just correlated a number of languages to produce a proto-form.
Radcliffe commenting on these text observed:
quote: Both sources reconstruct lexical relationships in the attested languages as going back to derivational relationships in the proto-language. (In at least one case OS also reconstruct a derivational relationship-- an Arabic singular-plural pair qarya(tun), qura(n)-- as going back to lexical ones in Proto-Afroasiatic, reconstructions 1568, 1589.) E does this in a thorough-going way and the result is proto-language in which the basic vocabulary consists of a set of polysemous verbal roots with abstract and general meanings, while verbs with more specific meanings, and almost all nouns are derived by suffixation. Further all consonants in this language can serve as suffixes. I would argue that both points are violations of the uniformitarian principle. In general the underived, basic vocabulary of a language and specific and concrete, while abstract words are formed by derivation. Further it is rare for the full consonant inventory of a language to be used in its productive derivational morphology. Finally, given the well-known homorganic cooccurence restrictions on Afroasiatic roots (Greenberg 1950, Bender 1974), each suffix would have to have at least one allomorph at a different point of articulation and a hideously complex system of dissimilation rules would be needed to account for their distribution. E’s justification for this is revealing “With respect to triconsonantal roots in Semitic, a[n] ... explanation of the third consonant as lexicalized pre-proto-Semitic suffixal morphemes has now been put forward (Ehret 1989).... It has been applied here without apology because, quite simply it works.” This is the worst possible argument in favor of the hypothesis. As the above calculations have shown, such a procedure should indeed work quite well as a way of generating random noise.
Orel, Vladimir and Olga V. Stolbova. 1995. Hamito-Semitic Etymological Dictionary: Materials for a reconstruction. E.J. Brill. Leiden. .
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quote:Originally posted by LEDAMA: Sorry to break your Bubble but the SEA PEOPLE were not white either but were the Nilo-semitic HATTU,who were Afro-asiatics speaking PROTO-ACCADIAN/PROTO-ELAMITE and today they are located in Ethiopia and are called AMHARA.Just look at an Amhara warrior attire and then look at the so-called Sea people war attire,especially the clothing,headgear,sword and shield,Yes SAME PEOPLE.In population genetics,It is easy to trace Amhara migration from ACCAD to the levant ZIDON to mediterrenean islands e.g CRETE & SICILY,then by sea to LIBYA,Now from Libya to North Sudan/south egypt MEROE & Amarna.Then finally to MODERN ETHIOPIA.This is by following these clades;Y-haplogroups T-M184(xK2),E-M123,E-M34 and mtDNA haplogroups N1,U6.Since Amhara HITTITES intermarried alot with AMORITES(AMERU of kenya),and also settled briefly in egyptianised Amorite town MEROE(MERU).You find the bantu Amorites KIKUYU TRIBE and AMERU of kenya also have mtDNA-N1 & U6,which they got from Amhara HITTITES.
I am beginning not to take you seriously. The Egyptians make it clear that the Sea people were Northeners. The Amhara speak a Semitic language and live in Ethiopia--not in the North and they did not sail into Egypt.
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Clyde acts like Black people never made it North, look at the prognathis here Clyde you need to let the younger researchers push the envelope you've still got one foot in the door of Eurocentricty, you keep quoting all these white researchers, Rawlinson, Radcliffe, Ehret, Vladimir and Olga
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Concerning Clyde,that is what happens to you ,if you take Eurocentric historian's claims as gospel truth.
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quote:Originally posted by LEDAMA: Sorry to break your Bubble but the SEA PEOPLE were not white either but were the Nilo-semitic HATTU,who were Afro-asiatics speaking PROTO-ACCADIAN/PROTO-ELAMITE and today they are located in Ethiopia and are called AMHARA.Just look at an Amhara warrior attire and then look at the so-called Sea people war attire,especially the clothing,headgear,sword and shield,Yes SAME PEOPLE.In population genetics,It is easy to trace Amhara migration from ACCAD to the levant ZIDON to mediterrenean islands e.g CRETE & SICILY,then by sea to LIBYA,Now from Libya to North Sudan/south egypt MEROE & Amarna.Then finally to MODERN ETHIOPIA.This is by following these clades;Y-haplogroups T-M184(xK2),E-M123,E-M34 and mtDNA haplogroups N1,U6.Since Amhara HITTITES intermarried alot with AMORITES(AMERU of kenya),and also settled briefly in egyptianised Amorite town MEROE(MERU).You find the bantu Amorites KIKUYU TRIBE and AMERU of kenya also have mtDNA-N1 & U6,which they got from Amhara HITTITES.
I am beginning not to take you seriously. The Egyptians make it clear that the Sea people were Northeners. The Amhara speak a Semitic language and live in Ethiopia--not in the North and they did not sail into Egypt.
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Clyde acts like Black people never made it North, look at the prognathis here Clyde you need to let the younger researchers push the envelope you've still got one foot in the door of Eurocentricty, you keep quoting all these white researchers, Rawlinson, Radcliffe, Ehret, Vladimir and Olga
LOL. That is what scientists do, they support their claims with research, by citing the researchers and their work.
There were Black People in the North, first the Khoisan, next Anu (Pygmies) and finally the Kushites.
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: LOL. That is what scientists do, they support their claims with research, by citing the researchers and their work.
the problem is who's research?
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
There were Black People in the North, first the Khoisan, next Anu (Pygmies) and finally the Kushites.
well the Sea People were Khoisan or Kushites then, right ?
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@Lioness..how do post pictures to this forum?I have old pictures of Amhara warriors looking exactly like the 'Sea people'. Amhara are hittites Originally bantu(Y haplogroup E-V38,E-M329) like other Canaanites,coz they are the ones who brought bantu mtDNA-L2 into ethiopia,that explains why Amhara are generally shorter than other nothern ethiopians,also i have pictures of Amhara i.e Wide nose,prognathism& Kinky hair.These other clades e.g Y-DNA E-M123(M34),J1 & mtDNA-N1,U6 was giiven them by Elamitess who later went north towards Armenia.Amhara entered libya,merowe up to Shewa ethopia. look at images lof syrian/Elamite kings helmet & hair,beards then look at Amhara kings including haileselassie.
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quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: LOL. That is what scientists do, they support their claims with research, by citing the researchers and their work.
the problem is who's research?
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
There were Black People in the North, first the Khoisan, next Anu (Pygmies) and finally the Kushites.
well the Sea People were Khoisan or Kushites then, right ?
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Tigray(himyarites) were the HAVILLAH of the bible,they entered ethiopia from yemen,together with Agaws started Axum as defence against assyria.
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Amhara is the only Ethiopian Semitic speakers to enter Ethiopia from the North,other semitic,afro-asiatic,eastern nilotic & south nilotic Ethiopian groups especially Tigray(Himyarite/Havillah),Afar(Ophir),Oromo(Sheba),Somali (Dedan),Maasai(Seba) crossed over from Yemen. Contrary to popular(euro-centric) beliefs,actually the Sabaeans were NEVER semitic,neither did they have a written language,Yes their capital was DAMAT,but even so,the Tigray(himyarite) influence is visible in DAMOT.The so called SABAEAN GODDESS was actually the PROTO-TIGRINYA GODDESS way before Tigray people embraced christianity and islam,even ruins her temples are found all over tigray. The TIGRAY were also the AGAZIANS who Migrated together with FALASHA JEWS on many waves from Arabia on a span of 4000 years from Arabia.. They are Known as the Himyarite..the old Himyarite Tribes. Upon their Migration to Eritrea starting from 2000b.c till 1200 a.d into Eritrea Due to the semitic Push from syria They called who ever Migrated "Agee-zay" Meaning "The Wonderer" or "The nomad"..In all 38 Clans of the agazian are know today 32 In eritrea and 6 In east sudan. The agazians are the old himyarite Tribes and are of Kushtic Descent through their Fifth Son Sabta.In europe Before the 15th century tigre or agazian were known as "akkadian" Language, The old akkadian of babel had their capital "tigre" Which is a name Given to them By the madeans due to their suprior Fighting Skills. Among their clans were came to Eritrea were many in today's eritrea, The belew kelew who are ancestors of alot of eritreans today and the founders of the "tigrigna"language... They were also the creators of the old pre- axumite Kingdom D'mt or as known to them "Midr agee'zai" and its capital Matara, Land of the nomads. Other Tribes who Migrated to mention afew are the Asa-wurta, Minferie from the saho Group, Hazzega, zual and nabara from the Kebessa Group, mensai and many more from the tigre group, and Halenga Beja who are originally From seraye Region but migrated to east sudan 200 years ago and adopted beja as a language instead of Tigre. The agazians aka Tigrettes aka xasa aka Himyraites Are all the same names given to them by different People, Agaizans were Given the name by themselves, The word Origin is only found In Tigre and other langauges Might have adopted The word But the meaning Changed, In tigre ägee-zka In tigrigna keed-ka Means the same "wondered" " Gone", Saa-hoo In afar means Nomad or agazian also a name they also gave themselves.In amharic it means "Free" but In amharic its one word agazi while in Tigre you can see the Root of the word ag- eez-ka. The Kurds and Indo euro Tribes called them "Tigre" The ancient egyptians called them "Ta xasa", Eritreans elders Always Claimed That Their First Origin is from Iraq babylon. When they say that Geéz Could be the oldest Writing that could be true Because the old chaldeans Tribes are known to invent Writing in mespotomia, and the Fidal Lita writing was only designed for The geéz script to reflect its potential, It was brought By the Agazians when they migrated to yemen from iraq around when the assyrians Invaded their capital and named it Tigre ashur.To the ancient egyptians They were always allied with the egyptains and intermarried with the New kingdom Dynasties, it is believed That nefertiti and akhnetan spoke Tigre as well according to History Records (I read this on a greek hisotrian Journal Travelling to egypt But can't confirm this 100% at the time, Need more research) Infact in the book of the dead the xasa were among the people who were equalled to the ancient egyptians and entered heaven with them while almost everyone else went to hell.Thier old religion pre-chirsitianity and islam were Various. The Himyarite Tribe Stretched From North yemen all the way to the border of isreal on the west coast of the arabian sea and inland to the Edge of what is iraq today after they left babylon, Some worshipped the moon, others idols, others seth who was Included into the ancient egyptian Gods as equal when the New kingdom of egypt took place, the hitties kingdom claimed that the New kingdom of egypt and xasa are the same people with same culture and looks and similar langauge, Meaning ofcourse that the Old himyarite tribes and beja were one tribe in ancient times.The ancient egyptians and their allies the xasa saved juresalem and defended it against the assyrians before the peak of the assyrian empire was just too strong and the himyarite all moved south to yemen to live among their fellow clans kins, starting from 2000 b.c when the first Agazians crossed the red sea to what Eritrea today The last Clan of agazians to leave arabia were the asa-wurta who speak saho today In the 12th century AD.. asa-wurta means a person who is wearing Bracelet, because such nature of their war like for every 10 they killed they wore a silver bracelet showing their bravery and warriorism, Today we wouldn't see them wearing much excpet for culture ocassions to reflect their heritage.In the old days some wore soo many bracelet that covered both hands almost to their elbows, the name was given to them by the arabs because of its unusual sight as men wearing many bracelet. Agazians is the name Given by the tigre to themselves for other clans who decided to move, eventually everyone moved, its the himyarite Tribe of yemen who are the source of the geéz and Fidal-lita. The habesh are completly Different and are the historic Foe of the Himyarite/agazians, They spoke sabean (a language today similar to harari) and since their arrival in yemen with the semitic Migration Tried to integrate them into habesh, However Most of the habesh today speak Himyarite and write In fidal Lita....Its another Reason why the some amhara have relaised that and claim that they are also of agazian roots and of old Himyarite Tribe Abandoning That they are of habesh roots, Indirectly some amhara and Gurage are claiming to be from eritrea to strengthen their Claim... The maasai nomads (Sabaeans of the bible) aka MARTU used to colonise the whole of arabia,even there are remnants of maasai today in east Yemen and are called MAHRA.Just like their maasai ancestors,the Mahra and socortra tribes still shoot the necks of cattle to extract blood,and drink milk mixed with blood. Ever wondered why AFAR(ophir) womens Jewellery designs are VERY SIMILAR TO MAASAI, except that Afar(ophir) jewellery is mostly made of Gold,YES the SABAEANS(maasai) colonised the Kingdom of OPHIR also. The GOLD OF OPHIR quoted severally in the bible(Job 28:16,1st Chronicles 29:4) is actually GOLD OF AFAR.The maasai influence especially on Ethiopian 'cushitic speakers' is very evident.Let us take a look at their numerals.Mr Clyde winters aka mr Linguist can help clarify here;
OROMO-SOMALI-AFAR-MAASAI NUMERALS. Tomon 10 Tomon o obo 11 Tomon o aare 12 Tomon o okuni 13 Tomon o oofigwan14 Tomon o nabo 11 Tomon o are 12 Tomon o uni 13 Tomon o ofigwan 14 Tomon o imyet 15 Tomon o ille 16 Tomon o oopishana 17 Tomon oo naapishana 18 Tomon o isyet 19 Tomon o oudo Tomon oo naudo 20 Tigitam 20 Tigit&m o obo TigitSm o nabo 21 Osom or 'N-domoni uni 23 Artam or 'N-domoni oSgwan24 Onom or 'N-domoni 'myet 25 Onom oo tomon or 'N-domoni 'lie 26 Onom oo tigitam or 'N-domoni naapishana 27 Onom oo 'n-domoni uni or 'N-domoni 'eyet 28 Onom o artain or 'N-domoni naudo 29
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LEDAMA you have not studied the history Ethiopians and Semitic speakers generally.The Amhara only recently became a dominate group in Ethiopia. Moreover, civilization was taken to Arabia by Ethiopian people--civilization did not come to Ethiopia from Arabia/Yemen.
You have not bothered to study Ethiopian history if you had you would know that the Axumites are Habashat origin. The Habashat founded the Sabaean and Axumite civilizations. The Sabaeans ruled Azania. This means that the Habashat/Axumites probably founded the trading centers on the East African coast. First we will review the ancient history of Ethiopia.
The earliest civilization in Southwest Arabia date back to the 2nd Millenium. This culture is called the Tihama culture which originated in Africa (Fattovich, 2008).
This view is supported by the archaeological evidence that support a close relationship between the Puntites/ Ethiopians and Nubians. For example, according to Fattovich, the pottery from Tihama Cultural Complex and other Ethiopian sites shows similarities to the Kerma and C-Group pottery. Given this connection between Ethiopian civilizations and civilizations in Nubia, make it clear that the Ethiopians would have been familiar with the ancient writing system used in this area.
At Tihama and other sites in Arabia we find pottery related to the C-Group people of Nubia (Keall, 2000;2008; Fattovish, 2008; Giumlia-Mair, 2002)The archaeological evidence indicates that C-Group people expanded from Nubia to Mesopotamia and the Indus Valley.
This civilization probably originated in Nubia. It is characterized by the cheesecake or pillbox burial monuments which extend from Dhofar in Nubia, the Gara mountains to Adulis on the Gulf of Zula, to Hadramaut, Qataban, Ausan, Adenm, Asir, the Main area and Tihama.
The historical evidence support an old presence of Ethio-Semitic in Africa. For example, the Axumite Empire was founded by the Habashan. the habashan are mentioned in a 3rd or 4th century Himyarite inscription from South Arabia, which refers to an alliance between Gadarat King of the Habashan or Habashat.
Some of the people of Punt were probably Tigrinya speakers, who call their language habesha, i.e., Abyssinian par excellence. The term Habesh, seems to represent an old name for Abyssinia and may be connected with the Amharic word washa 'cave or cavern', and may refer to the" cave dwellers" who once served as the principal traders along the Ethiopian coast. The ability of the Ethiopians as sailors, is supported by the title bahr nagash, "ruler of the maritime province" or Eritrea.
In addition, some of the earliest Sabean/Thamudic inscriptions have been found in Ethiopia, and not South Arabia. For example, Dr. Doresse has found Sabean cursive writing on a sceptre that indicates that the Habashat/Axumite empire had writing.
These Habashan are mentioned in Egyptian inscriptions of the 18th Dynasty (1709-1320) in connection to the land of Punt. Given the Egyptian association of the Habashan with Punt, I call the speakers of the Ethio-Semitic languages: Puntites. We have Egyptian evidence of trade missions to Punt as early as PepiII in 2400 BC and Mentuholep IV and IV. The vizier Amenemhat, of Mentuholep IV is said to have established a port near Safaga. the most famous mission to Punt was sent by Queen Hatshepsut, and is recorded at deir el Bahri. Since the Habashan are mentioned in Egyptian documents they were in existence long before the Arabic speakers.
The evidence of shared archaism for Akkadian and Ethio-Semitic indicate that the speakers of these languages probably shared many linguistic features when they separated. It also suggest that the speakers of these languages probably separated in Africa, since the Ethio-Semitic speakers have long been established in their present home, as supported by the Egyptian inscriptions. The Ethio-Semitic speakers have maintained these features due to the relative stability of these languages. You can find out more about the stability of African languages in my article "Linguistic Continuity and African and Dravidian languages", International Journal of Dravidian Linguistics, 23 (2), (1996) 34-52. We must conclude that the Semitic languages originated in Africa.
You have read too many general Ethiopian history text. You need to conduct more original research. You should begin this research by reading research articles--not just books.
References: Keall, E. J. (2000) >Changing Settlement along the Red Sea Coast of Yemen in the Bronze Age=, First International Congress on the Archaeology of the Ancient Near East (Rome May 18-23, 1998), Proceedings, (Matthiae, P., Enea, A., Peyronel, L. and Pinnock, F., eds), 719-31, Rome.
Giumlia-Mair, A., Keall, E. J., Shugar, A. and Stock, S. (2002) >Investigation of a Copper-based Hoard from the Megalithic Site of al-Midamman, Yemen: an Interdisciplinary Approach=, Journal of Archaeological Science 29, 195-209.
Keall, Dr. Edward J.Contact across the Red Sea (between Arabia and Africa) in the 2nd millennium BC: circumstantial evidence from the archaeological site of al-Midamman, Tihama coast of Yemen, and Dahlak Kabir Island, Eritrea .
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Ethiopian writing systems like Ge'ez is of African origin not Asian.
In summary, the historical evidence support an old presence of Ethio-Semitic in Africa. For example, the Axumite Empire was founded by the Habashan. the habashan are mentioned in a 3rd or 4th century Himyarite inscription from South Arabia, which refers to an alliance between Gadarat King of the Habashan or Habashat.
Some of the people of Punt were probably Tigrinya speakers, who call their language habesha, i.e., Abyssinian par excellence. The term Habesh, seems to represent an old name for Abyssinia and may be connected with the Amharic word washa 'cave or cavern', and may refer to the" cave dwellers" who once served as the principal traders along the Ethiopian coast. The ability of the Ethiopians as sailors, is supported by the title bahr nagash, "ruler of the maritime province" or Eritrea.
In addition, some of the earliest Sabean/Thamudic inscriptions have been found in Ethiopia, and not South Arabia. For example, Dr. Doresse has found Sabean cursive writing on a sceptre that indicates that the Habashat/Axumite empire had writing.
These Habashan are mentioned in Egyptian inscriptions of the 18th Dynasty (1709-1320) in connection to the land of Punt. Given the Egyptian association of the Habashan with Punt, I call the speakers of the Ethio-Semitic languages: Puntites. We have Egyptian evidence of trade missions to Punt as early as PepiII in 2400 BC and Mentuholep IV and IV. The vizier Amenemhat, of Mentuholep IV is said to have established a port near Safaga. the most famous mission to Punt was sent by Queen Hatshepsut, and is recorded at deir el Bahri. Since the Habashan are mentioned in Egyptian documents they were in existence long before the Arabic speakers.
Given the evidence, I am making only one claim: archaeological evidence indicate that the Oldest Sabaean inscriptions are found in Ethiopia, along with monumental architecture. This means only one thing: Sabaean writing was invented by the Ethiopians who took the writing to Yemen, no matter what some experts claim. It further supports the view that the Habashan or Sabaeans would have laid the foundation for the Swahili cities.
The archaeology does not indicate a higher civilization in Yemen than in Ethiopia. All the archaeological data indicate that Ethiopian civilizations were homegrown and taken to Yemen by ancient Ethiopians who probably founded Saba or Sheba.
Civilization originated in Africa, not Yemen.The parameter(s) I use ito identify a cultural tradition first occurs,temporally , it is that place where the cultural complex originated. In relation to Ethiopia we find three things: 1) a long tradition of statehood (Egyptian and Ethiopian records), 2) early engagement in trade (Sumerian and Egyptian text discussing the Puntite and Meluhha civilizations), and 3) oldest evidence of writing existing in Ethiopia (Drewes 1962), not Yemen. Put these elements together we have to acknowledge that the Sabaeans and their writing probably originated in Ethiopia not Yemen.
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The FIRST invasion of Europe by the Albinos circa 1,200 B.C. led to the first large-scale flight from Europe of Blacks - called exodus of the Sea people.
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: The Pilistines were white Sea People.
The FIRST invasion of Europe by the Albinos circa 1,200 B.C....
Central Asian Albino invaders of the modern era (circa “0” – 600 A.D.) as differentiated from the ancient Albino invaders related to the Latin’s and Greeks)
Mike I have a quesrion and I think you may try to avoid a direct answer to this, prove me wrong
If the first invasion of Europe 1,200 BC by whites was not by whites from Central Asia then where did they come from?
You seem to always hide from this question
where Mike? Where?
Tell us flat out and direct
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LEDAMA "The Dogon of Mali are descendants of ancient philistines,those PALESTINIANS of today are descendants of Ancient Edomites(Esau).According to the bible Genesis 10:6,14,these black ancient phistines were black africans descendants of mizraim(West benue congo speakers),descendant of HAM(Father of all black africans).They named themselves Dogon after the Ancient philistine half man-half fish deity DAGON.The Dogon of Mali west africa also worship Half man-half fish deities NOMMOS which they believe came from star sirius."
Dagon(Philist)/~Dragon(English)/Nommos(Dogon)/Oannes(Sumer ancient sage wearing fish hat)/Tlaloc(Aztec Nauatl rain god)/Rharug(Austral. rain god)/Noah(Hebrew)/Jonah(Hebrew)/John baptist=JuanBautista(Christian/Mande)~Mandan fishman myth/Black Sea people may have worn seal-skin headgear/turban=tunic/tulic(Eskimo)/Tallit(Hebrew)/tali(Malay:thread/tail)
The FIRST invasion of Europe by the Albinos circa 1,200 B.C....
Central Asian Albino invaders of the modern era (circa “0” – 600 A.D.) as differentiated from the ancient Albino invaders related to the Latin’s and Greeks)
Mike I have a quesrion and I think you may try to avoid a direct answer to this, prove me wrong
If the first invasion of Europe 1,200 BC by whites was not by whites from Central Asia then where did they come from?
You seem to always hide from this question
where Mike? Where?
Tell us flat out and direct
Disregard question
I checked Mike's posts. He says the Hellenes and Latins were also from Central Asia but from an earlier time period
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Please delete the photo immediately before your edit time runs out then I'll tell you in a minute
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Ledama the name of the Dogon ethnic group of Mali sound like the od Dagon of the Philistin and Mesopotamian. Accordin to Kembo Yahabi the people of the cities of Sidon and Byblos were Somalians, the Ghaneans and Ivoirians were the descendant of the Philistine, The West Africans people like the Mande, Soninke, Yoruba and Ibo were Ancient Egyptians.
I don't like the Ancient Egyptian and African system of secret society to teach a country history and world history. If only an elite class of priesthood know the history of a country and the world that knowledge can easily be lost if that priesthood was massacre by an invading army. That's what the Christian Byzantine Emperor did to Ancient Egypt in the 4 cent CE when they massacred the Egyptian priesthood and burned the Library of Alexandria and the Mediterranean world library. The British colonialists in Africa killed many Shamans after interviewing them in order for the knowledge to die with them.
I like the Moors of Spain system of universal education for all the population. When all the people in the society know the history of their country, their history is not going to be lost.
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I'm sticking with my claim, that the monk-seal fur hat was a symbol of power in the Black/Caspian/Mediterranean seas and this symbol was retained in various emigrant communities such as Ancient Egypt, Sumeria, etc. but disguised/modified for local conditions. I think it originated from the period before sewing with needles, so neanderthals may have worn it as a stocking cap.
The Pharaohs white crown was of leather, perhaps seal skin.
The Jewish skullcap/yarmulke/kippa may symbolize the dome hut or, after the Babylonian period (temple & priests extinct) the seal-fur hat.
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I don't like the Ancient Egyptian and African system of secret society to teach a country history and world history. If only an elite class of priesthood know the history of a country and the world that knowledge can easily be lost if that priesthood was massacre by an invading army. That's what the Christian Byzantine Emperor did to Ancient Egypt in the 4 cent CE when they massacred the Egyptian priesthood and burned the Library of Alexandria and the Mediterranean world library. The British colonialists in Africa killed many Shamans after interviewing them in order for the knowledge to die with them.
I like the Moors of Spain system of universal education for all the population. When all the people in the society know the history of their country, their history is not going to be lost.
. read here how the british massacred a whole clan of nandi tribe,who carried kalenjin history.I agree with you.
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The Pharaohs white crown was of leather, perhaps seal skin.
I dissagree,the white crown was made of calabash gourd,which modern kalenjin people call SOTET,Which is named after the egyptian deity SATET.
CALABASH GOURD
KALENJIN SOTET
EGYPTIAN SATET egyptian goddess SATET She is always shown wearing a SOTET(calabash guard)CROWN.
I really think her name should be spelled sotet,USUALLY egyptian heiroglyphic doesnt put vowels.so egyptologists might have mispelt her name.It should be SOTET not satet.same way egyptologists have mispelt ISIS,which should be ASIS.Pronounced by kalenjins as ASIIS.
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All of these relate to water (O'asis/wasser(German)/watar(Hittite)/atl(Aztec)/Atrahasis:Mesopotamian flood hero)
Although leaf-draped fig-bark loincloths might have sufficed at the summertime southern coast, sealskin clothes (hat/cape/shawl) would have been warmer in wintertime northern coast, and donned while hunting seals as disguise, similar to Eskimos and Norse hunting walruses in Greenland. This might have resulted in sacred dance costumes similar to antlered masks and wolf-head costumes and totems like the shamanic Lion(ness) sculpture of 35ka in a German cave. (cf Genesis)
Seals were absent in southern Egypt & Mesopotamia. Ceremonial rituals of pre-flood Black Sea peoples would have been changed/localized upon arrival at new sites; adopting fish costume or water bottle gourd cap might have been symbolic of seasonal freezing of the water and subsequent spring flooding (Janus/Oannes/Adapa/Dagon/mermaid theme).
Note that after the post-glacial Saline flood, the Black Sea would no longer freeze as much.
opo/calabash(Afr) ~ kelapa(Malay) coconut ~ cel apan(Aztec) cell (of/over) water
kepala(Malay) head ~ [Hapi?] hopf(German)/cephalic/capullo(Sp)/capsule(E)/shibboleth(Hebrew)=barleyhead=ce palli(Aztec) one barleyhead = stalk/spike = aristo(Greek)
- - - Hapi was the god of the annual flooding/silting of the Nile in ancient Egyptian religion
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A partial human skull found at a site in Kenya suggests early humans living in Africa were incredibly diverse.
Scientists recently rediscovered a 22,000-year-old skull fragment from an anatomically modern human from a site in Kenya. The skull fragment, shown here in a 3D scan, shows subtle differences from similar-age skulls found in both Africa and Europe [Credit: copyright President and Fellows of Harvard College]
The 22,000-year-old skull is not a new species and is clearly that of an anatomically modern human, but is markedly different from similar finds from Africa and Europe from the same time, the researchers said.
"It looks like nothing else, and so it shows that original diversity that we've since lost," said study co-author Christian Tryon, a Paleolithic archaeologist at Harvard University's Peabody Museum in Cambridge, Massachusetts. "It's probably an extinct lineage."
The same site also contained deposits that are more than twice as old as the skull, including 46,000-year-old ostrich eggshells that were used to make beads. The new finds could reveal insights about the shifts in human culture that took place starting when the ancestors of present-day humans left Africa, around 50,000 years ago.
About 12,000 years ago, humans began farming, living in denser settlements and burying their dead, so skeletons younger than that are plentiful, said Stanley Ambrose, an African archaeologist and paleoanthropologist at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, who was not involved in the study.
But relatively little is known about the people who came before them. Only a handful of human burials around the world date from about 12,000 to 30,000 years ago, Ambrose said.
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they made light-weight stone points, that were not much different from arrow blades found in Egyptian tombs c 4 ka, Ambrose said: "They're very simple little segments of blades that are easy to make, but they're very small & lightweight, and they fit into little slots on the ends & sides of arrows. We know that the Egyptian ones had traces of poison on them." Evidence of human culture from this critical juncture is incredibly rare, Ambrose said.
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" yana(Aztec)=protect oneself fm the rain(hood/sealskin)=yani(N)=pilgrim,=airyana/aryan
yes, you're right, the Alans=alaua/oalauh settled in the Azov/Caspian area, and there were fresh water seals there. they were highly prized & praised as mercenaries " CL @ pers. corresp.)
Interesting! also perhaps Marianu(charioteers of Aram/Anatol) & Aryans (of India)?
Oannes Oasis/Johannes/Jonah... belly of a whale/fish/seal? Dagon?
2 Yana Rivers in NE Siberia had H tools...cf Tana/DarDanelles/Dan..
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