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In his first book, SUperman To Man, published in 1917, J.A. Rogers accurately identifies Christianity as being an opiate of the Negro. An opiate that drugs the Negro mind.
We can clearly see that almost 100 years later his analysis was on the money and that Negroes have lost everything due to this holy dope.
J.A. Roger from, Superman" to Man.
To enslave a man, then dope him to make him content! Do you call THAT a solace?...The honest fact is that the greatest hindrance to the progress of the Negro is that dope that was shot into him during slavery...The slogan of the Negro devotee is: Take the world but give me Jesus, and the white man strikes an eager bargain with him...Another fact' there are far too many Negro preachers. Religion is the single most fruitful medium for exploiting this already exploited group. As I said, the majority of sharpers, who among whites would go into other fields, go, in this case, to the ministry.Posts: 4693 | From: Saturn | Registered: Apr 2012
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Christianity is not dope to the Negro. Basically it teaches them to worship a God who does not consider their own image good enough to incarnate manifest.
To worship such God in such an image is to refuse to worship their own image.
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quote:Originally posted by Habsburg: Christianity is not dope to the Negro. Basically it teaches them to worship a God who does not consider their own image good enough to incarnate manifest.
To worship such God in such an image is to refuse to worship their own image.
As Red, White, and Blue + Christian is indicating, you are confusing Albino Christianity, which is only a few hundred years old, to original Christianity. They are NOT the same thing.
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^The corollary to your statement is that you believe the Christianity currently presented is the true and original Christianity. Thus the discussions about hidden and false histories are moot. So which is it?
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I am basing all my posts and all my thinking on the Gullah/Geechee culture of South Carolina and in this case my upbringing in NYC and all the deep study of religion that I have done. In most AAfrican American churches there are no icons.
Our ancestors were Muslim and worshippers of traditional African religions. I sign in a Shango.
The most basic symbol of Bantu religions in the crosss symbol which can be found on Haitian veves. The double headed axe of Shango is a cross. Then there is the Tuareg cross.
Many African societies used water baptism and believed in water spirits.
In the town my ancestors were enslaved in, there were known to be Fulani Muslims who converted to Christianity. This is a deep topic.
The first Black church in America is this one. Read the deep history.
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Reading this will take some time so interested readers should be patient:
The key words here are concering the formulation of Christianity presented to Black people are: Divinity, Adoration, Veneration and Appreciation. In current times the two main ones are Mary/Jesus and Yashoda/Krishna. They are basically forms of maternal ancestor spirit worship. The Great Sphinx is probably one of the notable examples. It was worshiped by the locals even in Islamic times.
A person is formed from the energy of his/her ancestors. A female child is born with a fully functional set of ova even though it will not until she becomes a teenager that she becomes capable of producing her own children. For this reason some women have been storing the ova of their new born female relatives or even their children, that they can be used in future if they have difficulty conceiving.
What I am trying to say is that the little black girl you see is a sample of living cellular matter which has been alive for over millions of years. Just because it breaks out its living container and travels somewhere to thrive and propagate doesn't mean it is a different person or energy. It is still the same energy. The external male seed enables its offspring to adapt and evolve faster than mutations or parthogenesis alone can.
What you see as the girl, is an expression, a form of what some Hindu theologians call the material energy of the Lord. Note that the mater in material is the same is the same mater that the Latin mater for mother comes from, hence words like matrix, matriarch, matrimony, etc. Note that gender roles don't apply here. The material world is female by nature, hence material
You, ie your person and that of your family are constructed out of this material energy, primarily that of your mother. It is that energy that sustains you and builds you in your mother's womb and constitutes and is translated by your consciousness into the image of your physical form and spiritual energy that constitutes your psyche and your intellect, and on a wider scale the living planet itself.
Adoration, veneration and appreciation strengthen, repair and renew this material energy. This adoration, veneration and appreciation works through projection and association. What you project onto a Black Madonna, you project onto the black females in your family automatically once you are out of the church or your shrine. You see the divine within a Black Madonna and Jesus and the moment you see your black relatives the feelings and the positive reverent energy get's transferred to them. Father, mother uncles etc or all the manifestation of the divine.
What a white Madonna and Jesus do is essentially to break that cycle of repair and renewal among black people. That sense of adoration, veneration and appreciation is automatically switched off among black people. It doesn't mean people don't honour their parents and family, but the sense of divinity being your own family, extended family and tribe is broken. The divinity is turned away from you and projected onto white people. The rectangular frame that holds images of Madonna and Jesus is basically the "Box of Good". It is like a container in a Venn Diagram. As a black person does not appear in the box, apparently not worthy enough to appear in it, black people are "Not In the Box of Good", which in a Boolean value system equates to "bad". In effect we become unworthy of adoration, veneration and appreciation. We do not repair, renew and refresh our material energy.
That is why it is easy for black youth to regard our females as hoes and bitches whatnots, and results in the development of misogynist rap culture, because their sense of divinity is not projected onto themselves. And since they don't like white people as well, there is no real sense of adoration, veneration and appreciation within the culture itself. ie, the people become ingrates. Even if a person is not religious, they learn to respect their race because the people given the most respect by their race are their. When a supposedly intelligent President Obama celebrates misogynist lowlives Jay-Z, Dr Dre and tart-emulating Beyonce as role models and examples of black achievement worthy of emulation you know how degenerated the intellectual and spiritual psyche of our people has become. It is a truly grim state of affairs.
Have you noticed the way some comedians use a lot of foul language, it is because the sense of people of their race being high enough and worthy enough of not swearing in front is not established among people. Take Eddie Griffin for instance, I have watched a few videos of him and what strikes me is his inability project an air of respect onto himself and onto his people, as though there are none worthy of addressing as "Sir" or "Guvnor" etc. It is as though he is afraid of expressing that self-assurance, dignity and being at ease in the company of others are not qualities within his race.
Just a point to note about one of the reasons Pope Benedict worships a Black Madonna. The Polish Black Madonna is actually an ancestor not just an ancestral Goddess of Polish people. Any aware black person who sees Polish women regularly will realize that they are black women. They have a strong air or vibe, something in their mannerisms or body structure which makes your realize that they are black. You can't tell exactly what it is, you can just 'notice' or 'see' it. The Pope is not just worshiping the Madonna and Christ, he is worshiping his own Polish ancestress in his own pagan way. This is very telling about kind of mind job the formulation of Christianity propagated to African people truly is. It has gotten them to debase and undermine the honouring of their material energy, whilst the knowing Europeans are following their own pagan tradition and their ancestress worship under the guise of Christianity.
In short the formulation of Christianity presented to African's has destroyed any awareness of the notion of material energy, let alone the need to maintain it, renew and rebuild it through any form or ancestral worship, of either the living or the transitioned.
All the worship energies of black people are sold by ignorant or corrupt black clergy to maintain the white material energy.
Given these circumstances, it is unsurprising that black people remain in a state of relative impoverishment.
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^I just don't understand what the draw is for modern people, even educated modern people, for the "Hocus Pocus" Mysticism stuff.
In olden times, no one knew anything about the natural world, so they had to make explanations up. But to still be doing that sort of thing at this late day is very strange. Clearly it feeds some need of the teller or tellee, that I don't understand.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^I just don't understand what the draw is for modern people, even educated modern people, for the "Hocus Pocus" Mysticism stuff.
In olden times, no one knew anything about the natural world, so they had to make explanations up. But to still be doing that sort of thing at this late day is very strange. Clearly it feeds some need of the teller or tellee, that I don't understand.
The way you respond makes it hard to tell which response you are replying to. If it is mine here are some links you might look up.
These are some links I have come across in the last few days, as this issue has at the back of in my mind.
quote: Home is Where the Hurt Is: Racial Socialization, Stigma, and Well-Being in Afro-Brazilian Families By Elizabeth Hordge Freeman Department of Sociology Duke University
I had no idea colorism was such an issue among Indians.
In both cases people are given over to a religious culture which denies the divinity of their form. Being baptized or consecrated to one religion or another is the first thing performed after the birth of a child, and when they are black or dark skinned they are given over to a religious systems in which their worth is not affirmed.
The funny thing is both Hinduism and Christianity the original figures of worship were black or dark, and after those cultures were appropriated or colonized by white people all the figures of veneration turned white.
What Indian's have going for them is the retention and maintenance of the core family values and beliefs which remain inspite of colorism, and the fact that they are not ruled by Europeans, whereas in America and Brazil the desire to fit into a European dominated society actually breaks up family structures and undermines the formation new ones by denying the desirability dark complexioned women within the communities in which the families are expected to be formed.
With respect to America and Brazil consider this interesting angle: it is from the age of 13 or 14 (the age of the bar mitzvah) that a young male is supposed to start developing the attributes which will make him a productive disciplined man and father when he grows older. Consider that in the case of a black male this means forming a relationship with a dark-skinned, ie black female. Where does the discipline, and commitment come from when his partner in that commitment and focus is not considered desirable? Some men even openly express not being at ease if seen with an African looking partner. Nothing makes a person more focused than the need to provide for offspring. Where does the commitment come from if starting the relationship from which the offspring arise does not seem to be in consideration?
This is where it gets interesting: the purpose of black women is to procreate black males, so if black males don't just rank white and mixed-race females over black females, but actually demote them, aren't they saying they don't consider their own male likenesses worthy of reproduction?
Why should any other race want black people around if by their conduct black men seem to imply that reproduction of their race isn't worthwhile, at least in America and Brazil?
So we come to the question whether the religious images applied to black people are taking advantage of attitudes which already exist, or if it is those religious images that have created the situation and perpertuating it.
That Duke University thesis needs to be read.
Is the inclination to succumb to Colorism one of the symptoms of Madd Integrationist Negro Syndrome?
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^There is no place on Earth that the Albinos have been, where they have not tried to establish a hierarchy based on how closely the natives approximates their Whiteness. Just how old are you anyway?
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^There is no place on Earth that the Albinos have been, where they have not tried to establish a hierarchy based on how closely the natives approximates their Whiteness. Just how old are you anyway?
It is not about their appropriation of local customs, but how they create value systems which corrode communities from within, even those which they are far removed from. How is a white power structure capable of undermining family structures of brown and black complexioned people they are well removed from? Where do their hooks into the extended family environments come from?
Are they exploiting existing weaknesses or are they creating them new and sustaining them?
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^There is no place on Earth that the Albinos have been, where they have not tried to establish a hierarchy based on how closely the natives approximates their Whiteness. Just how old are you anyway?
It is not about their appropriation of local customs, but how they create value systems which corrode communities from within, even those which they are far removed from. How is a white power structure capable of undermining family structures of brown and black complexioned people they are well removed from? Where do their hooks into the extended family environments come from?
Are they exploiting existing weaknesses or are they creating them new and sustaining them?
This is a much better, more sensible conversation, and as such it has a reasonable rational answer.
Lets take south EAST Asia because I'm more familiar with that. The British and French along with the Dutch were active there.
Up until the middle of the past millennium these were the people who ruled there.
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In typical Negro fashion, they so enjoyed fighting each other, that they weaken each other enough to embolden the Mongols of China to attack.
Within a few hundred years the Mongols had taken all of South east Asia. Today few purely Black communities still exist. (That is why South Asians are darker than North Asians).
The point being that when the Albinos came, they found receptive populations when it came to racial issues, because neither the Albinos nor the local Mongol Mulattoes wanted Black to once again be the color of rule.
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Chemistry, Biology, Anatomy and Astronomy are thousand year old sciences... from the Stone Age.
The olden days was not full of hocus pocus. It is modernity that is full of false theories, speculations and bubbles...
I was going to say the same thing. Priest of Ra had to study the astrology, calendars, time. Priest of Nu had to study the nature of matter, Priest of Ptah studied any form of craft and natural creation.
Fast Forward
all that is satanic. Preist of Yaweh and Allah study old books.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: The point being that when the Albinos came, they found receptive populations when it came to racial issues, because neither the Albinos nor the local Mongol Mulattoes wanted Black to once again be the color of rule.
I am not so concerned with racial issues at the political level, but with colorism at the level of the family.
What causes a family to be worried about the features of a child before it is born? Whether it is dark or light, has a thin nose or broad nose, has straight or coiled hair? Why do families use the presence or absence of such features as an excuse for fostering feelings of disappointment, being unwanted, envy, jealously and outright hatred in their midst? What stops family patriarchs and matriarchs from stopping these corrosive tendencies from developing among people whose morale, cohesion and life ethos they are responsible for? Is it sheer irresponsibility, ignorance, maliciousness or what?
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^Every group/people/culture has it's own sense of beauty, desirability etc. I take it you feel they should just randomly mate, and whatever comes, comes: - Yes?
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Every group/people/culture has it's own sense of beauty, desirability etc. I take it you feel they should just randomly mate, and whatever comes, comes: - Yes?
There are two flaws to your response:
1. In the case of colorism most of the damage is inflicted by close family members on close blood relations they cannot and are never going to marry because they are close blood relatiions.. A mother or an aunt makes a daughter whose dark skin, coiled hair, or broad nose came from genes they themselves possess, feel unloved because of those features. Neither she nor any member of the family is going to marry the child so what are they concerned about, and why do they treat her in a way that undermines her confidence?
2. The critics themselves possess the genes for the undesirable features which they passed on. Not only that the features desired are basically cosmetic. Take the family you showed with the twin girls with one dark and one light. The genes came from the parents. What sense would there be in favouring one over the other, and in the usual case, the recessive gene?
Why create so much misery on account of cosmetic traits? It is not so much a desire for light complexions, or 'white features' but a desire to inflict misery for having dark complexions or africoid features. What kind of inherited, trans-generational totally dysfunctional mental sickness is that?
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^What you describe is NOT common in Black families. Your experiences are unique, and should be seen and treated as such. I would even go so far as to suggest that you have internalized far too much. Please note the following:
This is Tiger woods wife Elin Woods: All spray tanned and oiled down.
The reason she sprays on the tan and oils down is because she really looks like this.
Now do you hear Elin complaining about how her husband saw her without makeup and left her???
Hell no, so stop being such a crybaby.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^What you describe is NOT common in Black families. Your experiences are unique, and should be seen and treated as such. I would even go so far as to suggest that you have internalized far too much.
I am speaking about Black people. What relevance is a white woman's experience here?
What do you mean that this is not common in black families? Are you black at all? Have you viewed the "Dark Girls" clips? Have you read the PDF I linked earlier? It is my observation and to be honest I never realized how serious it was until women who I considered to be very beautiful mentioned how it made them feel.
Most of the misery which causes blacks to want to change their features are from negative comments within the family itself. Most of Michael Jacksons problem's with his nose were due to put downs from within his family. There is some from the outside like friends in school etc, but the family ones cut the most.
Why do you think skin bleaching or whitening products sell so much?
Take it this way. White men prefer blondes, but the marry brunettes, as the saying goes. With black people it is more of an aversion to black women, than a preference for mixed-complexion women. Do I detect a preference for the "European" phenotype?
PS. Where did I mention that it was my personal experiences I am speaking of. You seem to interpolate so much into others words.
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quote:Originally posted by Habsburg: PS. Where did I mention that it was my personal experiences I am speaking of. You seem to interpolate so much into others words.
Well if it's not from personal experience, then you don't really know what the hell you're talking about, now do you?
As to the other points:
Blacks have dysfunctional families just like everyone else. But to extrapolate that into being common or typical of Black families is silly.
Your problems are your problems: people with similar problems often communicate and combine those experiences into one package, and declare it the common experience - especially Black women. It is not, the typical Black family is a loving, supporting, institution.
Yes the racism all around has effect, and yes constantly being told directly/and indirectly, by Albino society that you are inferior has effect. That is why I take pains to portray Albinos and Albino society as it really is, rather than their makeup created fantasy.
But the weak who have fallen prey to Albino propaganda have no right to include all Blacks in their circle of complaint.
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quote:Originally posted by Habsburg: Do I detect a preference for the "European" phenotype?
Many, many, things here:
First, I am always ways amazed at how often the "Supposed" Black radical, is actually the most psychologically effected by the Albinos brainwashing. Eldridge Cleaver was a Rapist specializing in White women.
YOU reference a "European phenotype" when everyone who has ever looked into it understands that since ALL Humans are AFRICANS, then ALL phenotypes "MUST" be African, and must be FOUND in Africa! Without exception. More on this later.
From early on, I noticed that U.S. culture and media, beyond all others, tried mightily to define what was Black, culturally and phenotype wise. They seemed to have settled on this.
. Then I noticed something even stranger, Negroes who have been looking at other Negroes all their lives, and knew what each other looked like, ACCEPTED those two as TYPICAL of Blacks, and went on to defend them as being beautiful!
TALK ABOUT BRAIN CONTROL:
i.e. Don't believe your own lying eyes, believe me, your master the White man - and they bought it! Talk about stupid - Damn.
This stupidness is a continuation of those Negroes ACCEPTING the definition of Black handed to them by the Albinos!
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As a reminder:
Africans - except the poorest and most destitute, ALWAYS GROOM THEMSELVES!
Nonsense like the above has nothing to do with Black, it has to do with ignorant, confused people, who make it up as they go.
Below are links to pictures of Africans from many different countries. Please educate yourself to what Africans actually look like.
There is no question Elin looks better with her melanin coating. Habsburg's point remains. These half sistas of the white daddy grow up with mama's calling them and their brothers nappy headed nigga children. Unlike Elin who looks better with her melanin coat these women are made less attractive with their white daddy acquiescence caps.
And lets not forget thanks to the pro-Hoodratia laws they are raising our kids.
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Mike111, Saw your pics of African people. Awesome
Yet I still don't know why you think the 2 girls you deem are not beautiful(When they ARE), should not be defended.
FACT: Those 2 Girls are Beautiful, African phenotype runs the gambit. They are thee most diverse people on the earth.
Those 2 Girls are better looking then many women in Europe, America etc.
You yourself showed Tigers wife without makeup. Yet you say Black people should not defend 2 girls that are beautiful simply because :"white" man says whatever he says, Don't rate what they say.
Why you trying to show the white man how wrong he is when it comes to Black Beauty...HE KNOWS HE IS WRONG. He wants you to spend energy refuting his blind euro standard nonsense, it gives him justification to feel that hes right.
Fact: There is no such thing as an ugly Black Woman.
Whats ugly is that Africans Like Nigeria don't see there own beauty and Bleach there skin the Highest in the world.
My Next 2 posts Are going to show African children and women who run the Gambit in features, color, and hair:
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quote:Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes: You should include Hoodratia Mike
There is no question Elin looks better with her melanin coating. Habsburg's point remains. These half sistas of the white daddy grow up with mama's calling them and their brothers nappy headed nigga children. Unlike Elin who looks better with her melanin coat these women are made less attractive with their white daddy acquiescence caps.
And lets not forget thanks to the pro-Hoodratia laws they are raising our kids.
Forty, I realize what gets you angry about the dog hair, Hair Hats that Many Black Women wear.
It's sad really, I saw a 7 year old Girl with bone straight hair and a 8 year old girl with a weave. Some black women peddle there self hate on there children. Thats why Nigeria has so many bleachers, and America which was the Symbol of resistence, in the 70's with Angela Davis, Assata Shakur etc who showed Black Girls that there WOOL HAIR IS ROYALTY. Now has so much dog hair women, CONTROLLED BY KOREANS. Weaves suck, relaxers bun dem.
It always bothers me that the Most Beautiful women deem that they have to follow what The Y man says looks good some women from the diaspora that don't care for goat hair, these women and Girls have sheep hair and style it in ways that makes them stand out as the Queens they are:
Whites people are JEALOUS of that Hair, thats why if they can't have it, degrade those who have it to feel its ugly, when it's hair of The KING of KINGS(Yeshua) the saviour of The World. And The Sheep and Lambs. Do I really have to explain WHY Black Hair is hated by the people with dog hair(Not from Real White Men). Just THINK. Let me ask you, how much goats have wool hair. System is no joke man.
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