Is ‘sovereign’ group a cover for real estate rip-offs?
Earlier this year, someone identifying himself as a representative of the Moorish Science Temple of America sent Cook County Recorder of Deeds Karen Yarbrough and City Treasurer Stephanie Neely an “affidavit” informing them they were each being fined $1 million for slander.
Their alleged offense?
They had gone on television to alert Cook County residents to a scheme by which individuals claiming to be members of the Moorish Science Temple had used the organization’s religious status as cover for a series of real estate scams.
Their evidence?
Neely had learned to her chagrin that two years earlier someone from the group had filed false legal documents claiming to be the owner of her home — after already illegally moving into the vacant house next door as part of a scheme that clouded the title of dozens of other properties.
As you might imagine, the $1 million fine had no basis in law, nor apparently do hundreds of other purported legal documents that have been filed in the name of the Moorish Science Temple in recent years, most of them worded in a nearly indecipherable quasi-legal gibberish.
But that hasn’t prevented more such filings from arriving weekly at the Recorder of Deeds office, many from individuals who subscribe to the belief that as members of the Moorish Science Temple, they are exempt from certain U.S. laws, particularly those related to taxation.
In this regard, they fit the ideology of the sovereign citizen movement that was in the news here last week with the federal trial of a woman convicted for filing ridiculous liens against federal judges and prosecutors.
As I’ve learned in that time, it seems nobody wants to be saddled with the sovereign citizen label. Members of the Moorish Science Temple are no different.
“We’re not no sovereign citizens. The Moorish Science Temple is a sovereign entity,” said Walter Neal, drawing a distinction I would be hard-pressed to explain.
Neal was speaking to me by telephone from a commercial building on Pulaski near Lake that once served as former Ald. Ed Smith’s ward office and now is the temple or “consulate post” for one of the local Moorish Science groups.
Let me interrupt right here to note that the Moorish Science Temple is a religion, and it’s never a good idea to over-generalize about any religion or its adherents.
As far as the religion part of it goes, I think one of the great things about our country is that anybody is free to believe what whatever they want to believe — as long as they don’t hurt anybody else.
With that disclaimer, I have to say most people would find the Moorish Science Temple pretty strange.
One of it main tenets is that African-Americans are the indigenous people of the U.S., granted special privileges and immunities under a treaty with the government of Morocco in 1787, and therefore properly regarded as Moors or Moorish.
“The ancient Moroccans gave the Europeans permission to come over here. This ain’t no fictitious stuff,” said Neal, who seemed well-meaning enough. He emphasized that members are Moslems not Muslims — to differentiate themselves from the Nation of Islam.
The religion was started in New Jersey in 1913 by the Prophet Noble Ali Drew, born Timothy Drew, who later came to Chicago, where he legally incorporated the Moorish Science Temple in 1928, the original documents a reference point for many of the current filings. Chicago continues to be one of its strongholds.
“This is the Mecca of the West,” Neal said. “That’s why the Sears Tower is down there facing west.”
If you don’t believe any of this, Neal says you should check out “U.S. Department of Defense File 1-17,” which is typically cited on Moorish Science Temple documents as evidence of its authenticity.
Most of the filings are harmless, such as one from an individual declaring his 2000 Cadillac DeVille exempt from six citations he had racked up, basing his claim on being exempt from “any tax of any type” as a Moorish American.
I’m sure the Department of Revenue can set him straight.
Where it gets sticky is when somebody uses the Moorish Science Temple to lay claim to real estate.
One fellow told me about his elderly father who was convinced that if he turned over his home to the group, it would allow him to stop the bank from foreclosing. Now, the 74-year-old is facing eviction.
Neal decries such tactics, attributing them to what he calls “dirty Moors” who hide behind the religion to conduct criminal acts.
“There’s a lot of dirty Moors out here,” Neal said. “They’re the ones making the Prophet look bad.”
As Stephanie Neely will tell you, you might want to take a look at the title to your house to make sure somebody hasn’t claimed it.
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WHEREAS, the Moorish Americans are the descendants of the ancient Moabites, Hamatities, and Canaanites who were permitted by the Old Pharaohs of Kemet to Traverse from East Africa and later formed themselves kingdoms extending from the northwestern and southwester shores of Africa, the Atlantic Islands onto the present day Continental Americas; and
WHEREAS, the Moorish Americans, being aboriginal to the territories of North, Central and South Americas, have formed a sovereign theocratic government Guided by the command principles of love, truth, peace, freedom, and justice through virtue of the universal right to self-determination as well as with the declaration of the rights of indigenous people guaranteed in the Charter, and
WHEREAS, on January 8, 1886, Noble Drew Ali was born in the State of North Carolina, destined to become the first patriot of his mentally enslaved Moorish American People. In 1912 he was later anointed as El Hajj Sharif Abdul Ali by the heads of Egype and Holy City of Mecca to return to the United States as the last prophet and founding father of the newly risen Nation of Moorish Americans. As a result of the 13th amendment, Moorish people were Emancipated from slavery in 1865.
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So blacks in America are properly called "Moors". We are not fundamentally African we are fundamentally Levantine Asiatics who were permitted by the Egyptians to spread into all parts of Africa and to the Americas
Then it follows at the same time we are indigenous to the Americas
"the Moorish Americans, being aboriginal to the territories of North, Central and South Americas, have formed a sovereign theocratic government"
and we have formed a strong religious government
and the guy who enlightened us to this was born in 1886 and annointed by the heads of Egypt and Mecca to be the last prophet
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look, I'm not buying any of this
-unless Mike cosigns it
then I'll consider it
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well, did he sign a true statement or a baloney statement? Can we assume something is true because Rahm Emmanuel signed it? Was he drunk at the time?
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PROCLAMATION, evidence. The act of causing some state matters to be published or made generally known. A written or printed document in which are contained such matters, issued by proper authority; as the president's proclamation, the governor's, the mayor's proclamation. The word proclamation is also used to express the public nomination made of any one to a high office; as, such a prince was proclaimed emperor. 2. The president's proclamation has not the force of law, unless when authorized by congress; as if congress were to pass an act, which should take effect upon the happening of a contingent event, which was to be declared by the president by proclamation to hive happened; in this case the proclamation would give the act the force of law, which, till then, it wanted. How far a proclamation is evidence of facts, see Bac. Ab. Ev. F; Dougl. 594, n; B. N. P. 226; 12 Mod. 216; 8 State Tr. 212; 4 M. & S. 546; 2 Camp. Rep. 44; Dane's Ab. eh. 96, a. 2, 3 and 4; 1 Scam. R. 577; Bro. h.t.
PROCLAMATION, practice. The declaration made by the cryer, by authority of the court, that something is about to be done. 2. It usually commences with the French word Oyez, do you hear, in order to attract attention; it is particularly used on the meeting or opening of the court, and at its adjournment; it is also frequently employed to discharge persons who have been accused of crimes or misdemeanors.
A Law Dictionary, Adapted to the Constitution and Laws of the United States. By John Bouvier. Published 1856.
quote:proclamation (n.) Look up proclamation at Dictionary.com late 14c., "act of making public," also "that which is proclaimed;" from Old French proclamacion (14c., Modern French proclamation) and directly from Latin proclamationem (nominative proclamatio), noun of action from past participle stem of proclamare (see proclaim).
This prophet was a Muur, his life is ancient history...
Prophet Nobel Drew Ali [/QB]
No he wasn't
He was a black dude name Timothy from News Jersey who liked to dress up like a Mughal, at other times wore Turkish style fezes, used the Moroccan flag and yet claimed he was a Native American and a Moslem at the same time, yet couldn't speak Arabic or any Indian language
This prophet was a Muur, his life is ancient history...
Prophet Nobel Drew Ali
No he wasn't
He was a black dude name Timothy from News Jersey who liked to dress up like a Mughal, at other times wore Turkish style fezes, used the Moroccan flag and yet claimed he was a Native American and a Moslem at the same time, yet couldn't speak Arabic or any Indian language
It's quite bizarre [/QB]
Ali was dressed like a Native Amnerican. He was dressed just like the Yamasee Indians.
Ancient Brazilian and the American Carolinas also wore similar headgear in addition to Turbans.
Here we see the Malian ruler compared to the leader of the Yamassee soldiers fighting the British. Both indivuduals wear the headgear associated with Malian marines.
This can not be a coincidence. It is further proof of the Muurs in Brazil and the United States.
The picture of Nobel Drew Ali, founder of the Moorish Scientists continued the tradition of wearing Muurish military garb going back to the Colonial period of the United States.
This prophet was a Muur, his life is ancient history...
Prophet Nobel Drew Ali
No he wasn't
He was a black dude name Timothy from News Jersey who liked to dress up like a Mughal, at other times wore Turkish style fezes, used the Moroccan flag ...blah blah..blah [/QB]
Muurish Lessons 101:
Diodorus the Sicilian, Book I, [28, 1-4], tells of an Egyptian colony at what he cited as present-day Moab, which is the origin of the Moors, Hagarenes (called Arabs today) and Jews who collaborated to govern in Iberia. He said:
“… that the nation of the Colchi in Pontus and that of the Jews, which lies between Arabia and Syria, were founded as colonies by certain emigrants from their country [Egypt]; and this is the reason why it is long-established institution among these two peoples to circumcise their male children, the custom having been brought over from Egypt.”
These are the ancient Moabites or Moors who came from the Asiatic nations and this is confirmed by several sources as well where we find the Moslem armies who conquered Spain cited as Moors, Moabites [who are the Moors], Saracens, Ethiopians [which is descriptive of a Moor], Parthians, Africans, Persians Hagarenes, pagans, Ishmaelites, Chaldeans [Cushites which would be the same as Ethiopians], and Amorites as can be shown referenced with sources on this website. This is the collective of those whom were called Moors, Hagarenes and Saracens and why Moors have a picture of SULTAN ABDUL AZIZ IBU SUAD within the pages of our Moorish Koran. It stems from an ancient relationship that most do not understand until now. In the book Egyptian Romany by Mostaffa Goddalla, we read:
“The Moabi region was also the source of the Arabic, Hebrew, and Aramaic/Syriac dialects, which were offshoots of the Ancient Egypt language.Ibn Hazm (died 1064), the medieval Arabic scholar of Córdoba, recognized that Aramaic/Syriac, Hebrew, and Arabic were kindred dialects, derived from the Mudar, the dialect in which the Koran had been disclosed. Later in chapter 12, we will show that Mudar is an Ancient Egyptian term meaning language, and that all three languages/dialects are offshoots of the Ancient Egyptian language. The Moorish alliance never forgot their Moabi origin. Christian chronicles sometimes referred to the Almoravids as “Moabites”. There are numerous references to the “Moabites” in the Chronica Adephonsi; the references are to paragraphs] and the reference to “Ali” and “Texufinus (Tashufin) as kings of the Moabites would seem to support their theory that this term refers to Almoravids” - See more at: http://moorishsciencetemple.org/islam-was-founded-by-the-moors-of-arabia/#sthash.NGR1Rudn.dpufPosts: 7419 | From: North America | Registered: Mar 2009
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quote: Diodorus the Sicilian, Book I, [28, 1-4], tells of an Egyptian colony at what he cited as present-day Moab, which is the origin of the Moors, Hagarenes (called Arabs today) and Jews who collaborated to govern in Iberia. He said:
“… that the nation of the Colchi in Pontus and that of the Jews, which lies between Arabia and Syria, were founded as colonies by certain emigrants from their country [Egypt]; and this is the reason why it is long-established institution among these two peoples to circumcise their male children, the custom having been brought over from Egypt.”
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The Treaty of Friendship between United States and the Empire of Morocco 1786:
6. If any Moor shall bring Citizens of the United States or their Effects to His Majesty, the Citizens shall immediately be set at Liberty and the Effects restored, and in like Manner, if any Moor not a Subject of these Dominions shall make Prize of any of the Citizens of America or their Effects and bring them into any of the Ports of His Majesty, they shall be immediately released, as they will then be considered as under His Majesty’s Protection
16. In case of a War between the Parties, the Prisoners are not to be made Slaves, but to be exchanged one for another, Captain for Captain, Officer for Officer and one private Man for another; and if there shall prove a deficiency on either side, it shall be made up by the payment of one hundred Mexican Dollars for each Person wanting; And it is agreed that all Prisoners shall be exchanged in twelve Months from the Time of their being taken, and that this exchange may be effected by a Merchant or any other Person authorized by either of the Parties. …………………………………………………………………………. 20. If any of the Citizens of the United States, or any Persons under their Protection, shall have any disputes with each other, the Consul shall decide between the Parties and whenever the Consul shall require any Aid or Assistance from our Government to enforce his decisions it shall be immediately granted to him..”
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