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An intensive search for suspects is currently underway. No suspects are in custody at this time. We ask that any citizen with information regarding the shootings tonight call 214-671-3482. We will provide more information once it is available. Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers tonight."
Just before 11 p.m. Brown said an 11th officer was injured in a shootout with one of the snipers.

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LIVE NEWS FEED >

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/dallas-county/breaking-shots-fired-and-officers-down-at-downtown-dallas-protest/266881573

^^cell phone footage at bottom


related:


The Straw that breaks the camels back? The Alton Sterling shooting


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http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/07/dallas-police-shot-snipers-ambush/

Dallas cops released this image of a man armed with an assault rifle whole they called a person of interest in the fatal shooting of at least 4 officers ... and he has now turned himself in to Dallas PD.
The man was dressed in a camouflage shirt and black shorts, and shockingly walked openly with his weapon ... without anyone pointing out the rifle to police officers.

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Dallas PD want to talk to the man about the shootings which killed 4 officers and wounded 7 others during an ambush. The attack happened in the middle of a protest against the deaths of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile -- and police believe the shots came from snipers in elevated positions.
A second person Dallas PD call a "suspect" has been apprehended.
Story developing ...

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How the Dallas protest shooting unfolded on social media

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-the-dallas-protest-shooting-unfolded-on-social-media/

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suspect in a garage in a standoff with police, shooting at police, he says "the end is near" and says that there are bombs in the garage as well as all over downtown dallas.
Other suspects in a mercedes questioned

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Mayor Mike Rawlings and Chief of police David brown

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/07/dallas-police-shot-snipers-ambush/

Dallas cops released this image of a man armed with an assault rifle whole they called a person of interest in the fatal shooting of at least 4 officers ... and he has now turned himself in to Dallas PD.
The man was dressed in a camouflage shirt and black shorts, and shockingly walked openly with his weapon ... without anyone pointing out the rifle to police officers.

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Dallas PD want to talk to the man about the shootings which killed 4 officers and wounded 7 others during an ambush. The attack happened in the middle of a protest against the deaths of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile -- and police believe the shots came from snipers in elevated positions.
A second person Dallas PD call a "suspect" has been apprehended.
Story developing ...

I think this guy turned himself in and it was
determined he had nothing to do with the shootings, the problem with open carry is ppl are bound to use them sooner or later.

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President Obama Says Police Killings 'Symptomatic of...Racial Disparities'


President Obama addressed the deaths of two black men who were killed in police shootings this week -- incidents that sparked outrage and demands for justice around the country -- and said the incidents were "not isolated" but rather "symptomatic of a of a broader set of racial disparities."

"We have seen tragedies like this too many times," the president said in Warsaw.

"All of us as Americans should be troubled by these shootings," he continued. "These are not isolated incidents, they are symptomatic of a broader set of racial disparities that exist in our criminal justice system."

Alton Sterling was shot and killed by a police officer in Baton Rouge, Louisiana earlier this week, and Philando Castile was killed in a separate incident by a police officer in Minnesota last night.

Both incidents -- parts of which were captured on witness video -- sparked outrage. The Baton Rouge shooting was referred to the Department of Justice for Investigation and the investigation of the Minnesota shooting is being monitored by the DOJ.

The president went on to list a number of statistics showing black Americans are subject to disparities under the nation's law enforcement system.

“When people say black lives matter, it doesn’t mean blue lives don’t matter,” the president said, adding that it’s instead “about us recognizing there is a particular burden placed on a group of our citizens.”

"This is not just a black issue, this is not just a Hispanic issue, this is an American issue that we should all care about," the president said, noting that when incidents like this occur there are segments of the country that feel that because of "the color of their skin they are not being treated the same, and that hurts and that should trouble all of us."

The president urged the country not to fall into an unproductive political debate that pits criminal justice reform against support for law enforcement –- saying the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

“To be for these issues is not to be against law enforcement,” he said.

“We know you have a tough job,” the president said, addressing law enforcement directly.

“We mourn those in uniform who are protecting us who lose their lives,” he continued. "I’ve hugged family members who’ve lost loved ones doing the right thing, I know how much it hurts…there is no contradiction between us supporting law enforcement.”

“To be concerned about these issues is not political correctness, it’s just being American,” he said.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-address-police-shootings/story?id=40419109

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Report of The Sentencing Project to the United Nations
Human Rights Committee Regarding Racial Disparities in the United States Criminal Justice System, August 2013


http://sentencingproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Race-and-Justice-Shadow-Report-ICCPR.pdf


Black Americans Incarcerated Five Times More Than White People

JUNE 18, 2016

Black Americans were incarcerated in state prisons at an average rate of 5.1 times that of white Americans in 2014. In some states that rate was 10 times or more, reports The Guardian.

http://www.sentencingproject.org

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Study: People Are Quicker to Shoot a Black Target Than a White Target


According to a new report from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, racial bias can affect the likelihood of people pulling the trigger of a gun—even if shooters don't realize they were biased to begin with. Researchers found that, in studies conducted over the past decade, participants were more likely to shoot targets depicting black people than those depicting white people.

A team led by researcher Yara Mekawi looked at 42 studies that used first-person-shooter tasks to identify shooter bias. In the lab, images of black or white people were shown to participants, who then had less than a second to decide whether they would shoot the target. In some images the people were armed, and in others they were holding another object, like a cellphone.

The meta-analysis showed that the participants were quicker to shoot when an armed person was black, slower to choose not to shoot when an unarmed person was black, and more trigger-happy toward black targets in general.

There was little difference between false-alarm shootings between black and white targets overall; however, in states where gun laws are less strict, shooter bias against black targets increased—unarmed black targets were more likely to be shot. The bias only got worse in areas that were more racially diverse.

"What this highlights," Mekawi told NPR, "is that even though a person might say, 'I'm not racist' or 'I'm not prejudiced,' it doesn't necessarily mean that race doesn't influence their split-second decisions."


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/08/study-shows-racial-bias-shootings

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The official directing link to the study and interview of the co-author:


ARUN RATH, HOST:

Are most people more likely to pull the trigger of a gun if the person they're shooting at is black? A new study takes on that question. Yara Mekawi of the University of Illinois is one of the co-authors of the study. Yara, welcome to the program.

YARA MEKAWI: Thank you.

RATH: So, Yara, does race affect whether a target is more or less likely to be shot?

MEKAWI: Well, what we found is that it does. And so in our study, we found two main things. So first, people were quicker to shoot black targets with a gun, relative to white targets with a gun. And the other thing that we found was that people were more trigger-happy when shooting black targets compared to white targets. So what that means is that they had a bias or a tendency to shoot black targets more than white targets.

RATH: Your study is a meta-analysis, meaning you took the results from dozens of studies to come up with your analysis. What kind of studies were you analyzing? Were these done in a lab? What kind of conditions?

MEKAWI: Yeah, they were all conducted in the lab. And so our inclusion criteria was pretty much that they used what's called a first-person shooter task. And kind of how the task generally works is that participants are told that police officers are often put in high-stress situations where they have to make very quick shooting decisions. And so they are presented with images of targets from various races, that either have a gun or they have some kind of neutral object - so sometimes it's a soda can, other times it's something like a cell phone. And what they're told is to make the decision to shoot when they see a target with a gun. And so they are given less than a millisecond to respond, and if they don't respond quickly enough, they get a little error message saying, please make the decision faster. And that was our main inclusion criteria, it was just that the study had to include that task. They had to report data from that task. [POST-BROADCAST CORRECTION: In the audio of this story, our guest incorrectly says that participants in the studies had "less than a millisecond to respond." In fact, they had less than a second.]

RATH: Now you also found a correlation between the bias and states with more permissive gun laws. Could you explain that?

MEKAWI: So that was one of our surprising findings. And so what we did was we basically coded the cities in which the data was collected by how permissive the gun laws were. And we used the Brady Law Campaign, which gives basically states a score of either being very permissive, so this means that, you know, they don't require background checks in the same way that other more strict states might or have other kinds of limitations on who's allowed to purchase a gun. And basically what we found was that in states with relatively permissive gun laws, the shooting threshold for black targets was lower than for white targets.

RATH: The simple question that seems odd to ask maybe - but why do you think you observed this bias?

MEKAWI: Well, there's lots of different theories. A couple of them - so one theory states essentially that when people view images of black targets with a gun, it's what called stereotype consistent, which means that it's something that you expect, and so people typically respond to things more quickly when they're congruent - when they make sense to be together. So that's one theory. Another theory is that it could be something to do with threat. It could be that individuals perceive black targets as being more threatening, and so they inhibit their shooting behavior less because they're more threatened. So you can think of it as kind of a defensive response.

RATH: So talk about the implications of your findings for law enforcement.

MEKAWI: I think, generally speaking, what this highlights is that even though a person might say, I'm not racist or I'm not prejudiced, it doesn't necessarily mean that race doesn't influence their split-second decisions. One implication could be that there should be education about the fact that these biases exist and that they could be outside of one's control. So even if you think that you're not prejudiced, you're not biased that doesn't certainly mean that that's true, in terms of split-second decisions you might the real world.

RATH: Yara Mekawi of the University of Illinois. She's one of the authors of a new meta-analysis of race and trigger bias. Yara, thank you.

MEKAWI: Thank you.


Shooters Quicker To Pull Trigger When Target Is Black, Study Finds

Shown a realistic human target — not just a silhouette like this one — shooters were more likely to pull the trigger if the target was black, according to an analysis of 42 studies. "Even if you think that you're not prejudiced," says researcher Yara Mekawi, "that doesn't necessarily mean that that's true in terms of split-second decisions that you might make in the real world."


Shown a realistic human target — not just a silhouette like this one — shooters were more likely to pull the trigger if the target was black, according to an analysis of 42 studies. "Even if you think that you're not prejudiced," says researcher Yara Mekawi, "that doesn't necessarily mean that that's true in terms of split-second decisions that you might make in the real world."


Are most people more likely to pull the trigger of a gun if the person they're shooting at is black?

A new meta-analysis set out to answer that question. Yara Mekawi of the University of Illinois and her co-author, Konrad Bresin, drew together findings from 42 different studies on trigger bias to examine whether race affects how likely a target is to be shot.

"What we found is that it does," Mekawi tells NPR's Arun Rath. "In our study we found two main things: First, people were quicker to shoot black targets with a gun, relative to white targets with a gun. And ... people were more trigger-happy when shooting black targets compared to shooting white targets."

That is, shooters weren't just faster to fire at black targets; they were also more likely to fire at a black target.


Interview Highlights

On the kinds of studies they were analyzing


Our inclusion criteria was pretty much that they used what's called a first-person shooter task. ... Participants are generally told that police officers are often put in high-stress situations where they have to make very quick shooting decisions.

And so they are presented with images of targets from various races that either have a gun or have some kind of neutral object. So, sometimes it's a soda can; other times it's a cellphone. And what they're told is, to make the decision to shoot when they see a target with a gun.

They are given less than a millisecond to respond, and if they don't respond quickly enough, they get a little error message saying, "Please make the decision faster."

On an additional finding: a correlation between such bias and permissive gun laws

[We] coded the cities in which the data was collected by how permissive the gun laws were. And we used the Brady Law campaign, which gives basically states a score ... being very permissive, this means that, you know, they didn't require background checks in the same way that other, more strict states might or have other limitations on who's allowed to purchase a gun. ...

Basically, what we found was that in states that had relatively permissive gun laws, the shooting threshold for black targets was lower than for white targets.

On theories for why this bias was evident

One theory states, essentially, that when people view images of black targets with a gun, it's what's called "stereotype-consistent," which means that it's something that you expect. And so people typically respond to things more quickly when they're congruent, when they make sense to be together. So that's one theory.

Another theory is that it could be something to do with threat. It could be that individuals perceive black targets as being more threatening. And so they inhibit their shooting behavior less because they're more threatened. So you can think of it as kind of a threatened response.

On the implications for law enforcement

I think, generally speaking, what this highlights is that even though a person might say "I'm not racist" or "I'm not prejudiced," it doesn't necessarily mean that race doesn't influence their split-second decisions.

One implication could be that there should be education about the fact that these biases exist and that they could be outside of one's control. So even if you think that you're not prejudiced, you're not biased, that doesn't necessarily mean that that's true in terms of split-second decisions that you might make in the real world.


http://www.npr.org/2015/08/29/435833251/shooters-quicker-to-pull-trigger-when-target-is-black-study-finds

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Authors: Yara Mekawi and Konrad Bresin


Journal of Experimental Social Psychology
Available online 23 August 2015, doi:10.1016/j.jesp.2015.08.002


Is the Evidence from Racial Bias Shooting Task Studies a Smoking Gun? Results From a Meta-Analysis


Highlights

• Laboratory shooter tasks have yielded mixed results regarding racial shooter biases

• This study reports a meta-analysis of racial shooter biases

• Shooter biases were significant for shooting threshold and reaction time

• State level gun laws and proportion of non-Whites moderated shooter biases

• Implications for training of police officers and gun owners are discussed


Abstract


The longstanding issue of extrajudicial police shootings of racial and ethnic minority members has received unprecedented interest from the general public in the past year. To better understand this issue, researchers have examined racial shooter biases in the laboratory for more than a decade; however, shooter biases have been operationalized in multiple ways in previous studies with mixed results within and across measures. We meta-analyzed 42 studies, investigating five operationalizations of shooter biases (reaction time with/without a gun, false alarms, shooting sensitivity, and shooting threshold) and relevant moderators (e.g., racial prejudice, state level gun laws). Our results indicated that relative to White targets, participants were quicker to shoot armed Black targets (dav = -.13, 95% CI [-.19, -.06]), slower to not shoot unarmed Black targets (dav = .11, 95% CI [.05, .18), and more likely to have a liberal shooting threshold for Black targets (dav = -.19, 95% CI [-.37, -.01]). In addition, we found that in states with permissive (vs. restrictive) gun laws, the false alarm rate for shooting Black targets was higher and the shooting threshold for shooting Black targets was lower than for White targets. These results help provide critical insight into the psychology of race-based shooter decisions, which may have practical implications for intervention (e.g., training police officers) and prevention of the loss of life of racial and ethnic minorities.


(You can continue reading on the recommended articles, linked below of the page, within the link)


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103115000992

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^Great research Ish!

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^Great research Ish!

I am not from the U.S.. But it means whenever I come over for vacation or visit family at holidays, "I feel I am at risk". That's how I feel about this. And I am not in the mood to visit the U.S. anytime soon. Nor do I think it was ok to kill those cops. But maybe they had a history of being violent towards the community over there, which brought this outrage.


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The KKK Has Infiltrated U.S. Police Departments for Decades


In 1991, a neo-Nazi white supremacist gang was terrorizing the streets of Lynwood in Los Angeles County. The reason these violent thugs could run amok was because they were deputies at the Lynwood Sheriff’s station, having the power of blue privilege.

A federal judge acknowledged that the gang of deputies carried out “systematic acts of shooting, killing, brutality, terrorism, house-trashing and other acts of lawlessness and wanton abuse of power.”

These maniacs were not the sudden appearance of a unique group of individuals among law enforcement, but the progeny of a decades-long effort by the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) to infiltrate police departments wherever possible.

That’s why it is so difficult to believe the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) when it said on Tuesday that there was no racial profiling in any of the 1,365 allegations leveled against the department from 2012 to 2014.

“I don’t think anybody believes that there are actually no incidents of biased policing,” said Matt Johnson, president of the Police Commission panel. “The problem is we don’t have an effective way of really adjudicating the issue.”

“While no doubt the vast majority of LAPD officers do not engage in biased policing, it strains credibility to suggest that … there were zero instances of biased policing,” said commissioner Robert Saltzman. “It should not be surprising that there is diminished trust in the LAPD given these results.”

The LAPD seems to think that the influence of neo-Nazi, white supremacist groups is a thing of the past.

A Florida deputy police chief was exposed as a member of the KKK last year, and no criminal wrongdoing was found as he resigned. In September, a Louisiana police detective was caught in a photo giving a Nazi salute at a KKK rally. An Alabama police officer recently spoke at a League of the South rally.

While the South has been fertile ground for racist groups, the KKK has penetrated many police departments around the country, as evidenced by the Lynwood horror.

Larissa Moore and four of her law school colleagues performed an investigation of unsolved civil rights murders from 1946 to 1969, under a Syracuse University program, and confirmed an ugly truth.
During the Civil Rights movement, one of the KKK’s first orders was to infiltrate police departments, “because the laws don’t apply to them if they are the law,” according to Moore.

This echoes an FBI statement in 2006 that white supremacist groups “have historically engaged in strategic efforts to infiltrate and recruit from law enforcement communities.” The federal agency’s concern seems to be selfish, though, as it stated that the hate group’s actions cause “investigative breaches and can jeopardize the safety of law enforcement sources and personnel.”

So far, the FBI has not reviewed any of the 37 cases sent to them from the program in which Moore is involved—The Cold Case Justice Initiative. Since the purview expires in 2017, there seems to be little chance that the FBI will take meaningful action.

“We have discovered hundreds of killings that aren’t on the FBI’s list that no one’s ever done a full accounting of all the people who have been killed either by Klan or by suspicious police shootings,” said Janis McDonald, a law professor at Syracuse University who co-founded CCJI with law professor Paula Johnson.

The government’s disinterest here mirrors a wider problem in law enforcement at all levels. Cops continue to inflict most of their brutality on minority groups, especially blacks. African-Americans make up only 13 percent of the population, yet they are the victims in 26 percent of all police shootings. A young black male is 3 times more likely to be killed by a cop than their white counterparts. Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Walter Scott and Tamir Rice are just a few of the recent examples.

The injustice of the drug war also falls most heavily on minorities. “More than 60% of the people in prison are now racial and ethnic minorities” and “two-thirds of all persons in prison for drug offenses are people of color.”

Clearly, the KKK has had success in establishing a culture within not only police departments but the entire “criminal justice system.” With departments like the LAPD continuing to pretend that racism does not motivate any of its officers, it will be difficult to know just how far the disease of white supremacy has spread into law enforcement.


http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/kkk-has-infiltrated-us-police-departments-decades
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Texas Officers Fired for Membership in KKK

Two law enforcement officers in Williamson County, Texas, have been fired after it was discovered they were members of the Ku Klux Klan.

County Sheriff John Maspero said there was no evidence the two men, Deputy David Gay, 45, and Sgt. Greg Palm, 29, had committed any acts of discrimination or failed to perform their duties, but said membership in the notorious hate group was sufficient reason to dismiss them.

Officials said they found out the two men belonged to the Klan after they approached another officer and asked him to join.

"We have no complaints that we have documented in reference to either one of them as far as the way they handle their jobs," Maspero said. He insisted, however, that "regardless of how they did their job, the membership, in itself in fact, is enough, as far as I'm concerned as sheriff."

The sheriff's office has "no tolerance for discrimination or hatred," department spokeswoman Tracy Carol said.

Gay and Palm were suspended Friday and on Tuesday went before a review board, which voted unanimously to fire them.

The sheriff's office said it had not found any other officers involved with the Klan.

Their firing came on Juneteenth, as the June 19 anniversary of the day that Texas slaves learned they had been freed in 1865 is known, two and a half years after the Emancipation Proclamation.

ABCNEWS' Michelle Fox in Austin contributed to this report.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=93046

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Female officer tells racist cops to "put the KKK hoodie on"


A black female officer from the Cleveland area is going viral with her powerful message to all racist cops – “take the uniform off and put the KKK hoodie on.”

Officer Nakia Jones said her son actually showed her the disturbing video of officers shooting and killing Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge.

Officers Blane Salamoni and Howie Lake II confronted Sterling as he was selling CDs outside a convenience store. An altercation followed and Sterling was shot multiple times in the back and chest.

“What’s interesting to me is that the shooting involves a police officer. And I watched the video over, and over, and over and over and over again so that I wouldn’t become judgmental. Because not only am I a mother of two African American sons and I have African American nephews and brothers, but I’m also a person that wears the uniform with the blue,” she said.

She said she’s no stranger to scary situations dealing with criminals, often times people of her same race.

“So I’m looking at it, I’m looking at it and I became so furious and so hurt because it bothers me when I hear people say ‘Y’all police officers, this. Y’all police officers that.’ And they put us in this negative category when I’m saying to myself, ‘I’m not that type of police officer,’” she said.

Jones said she grew up “in the hood” and knows what it’s like to have a parent on drugs. The reason she became a police officer was to make a difference in people’s lives. She said it’s been tough for her see people stealing, raping or killing each other in the community she loves.

“But what hurts me the most is people who stood in front of a judge and stood in front of a mayor and said, ‘I swear my oath that I will serve and protect this community.’ And God please forgive me and you can delete me if you get mad at me. If you are white and you work in a black community and you are racist you need to be ashamed of yourself,” she said.

“How dare you stand next to me in the same uniform and murder somebody. How dare you!” she shouts.

She said officers who are afraid to talk to people because they don’t look the same way they do have no business being in uniform. There are many others like herself that would gladly serve and protect in their place.

“If you are that officer that’s prejudice, take the uniform off and put the KKK hoodie on,” she demands.

Jones’ emotional, 7-minute video has more than 3 million views on Facebook. The hastag #OfficerNakiaJones is also trending.

http://www.fox4news.com/trending/171075409-story

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Back then I listened to these songs, but now I truly understand them. Do I consider it radical, of course I do.

Brand Nubian - Gang Bang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNIPoxjUNkc


Gang Bang

Well, there's mad gangs, but only one got control
Wherever they roam, from north pole to south pole
Ice cold with a vice hold on all crime
They gettin paid even if they **** is small time
All your dimes'll get took, yo watch them sling (?) them things
Cause they nothin but a gang of crooks
Things look like they'll be here for a while
Momi and Daddy better fear for they chile
Cause they style is not just makin a fast chickens (?)
They also into murder and ass kickin
Distortion and kidnappin, the kid is black
Handsome ransome they just get you your kid back
But either way they gonna make a loot
If they keep the kid he's gonna do a bit as a prostitute
Owin freak (?) for some T. A. N. G. (?)
From six to sixty-six they count us catchin thick (?)
**** sticks in your mind
Make a nigger wanna go out and fight crime
I write rhymes as an answer to they gang size
If they wanna jack your car you can sang mines

Gang bang Gang bang
Police ain't nothing but a gang #4
Date rapes, got the shakes since the first of the month
So you gotta play, the cheque cash close (?)
You know you gotta make up that loss
So when the cut was butt (?) and the work was dirt
A whole baggage fucked up ?), you know you're de man
You gotta head him off, if you still want the block
So he can look the other way, if he catch you with the Glock
All de cook up, he might give you the hook up (?)
So you don't get moves downtown in the tombs
New gang member, he's a rookie and his wid extortion (?)
He got a wife and his daughter wanna a pony
His man's a Columbian
And they both got they hands in the soup
And you gotta hit off your group
Niggers to be outside til like four in the mornin
Niggers with the toast so when the gang get too close
Naw a gang don't play by the rules and they up they demands
Gotta grease mo hands, gotta get mo work
Gotta get more weight, gotta stay up late
And travel out of state, hey **** the gang fucks nothin
Niggers are bluffin, as they snatch you for the kidnap they don+t even
Show
Got fucked in the ass, so now who's the ho
Gang 88 (?), mo kinds of dicks, don't give a **** about the brothers
As long as they get they cash, News flash
These kids is the worst, if you see 'em
Then you better hit em first
Don't shoot til you see the whites of they eyes
Hands and thighs, they might front and sell ya been pies (?)
Black man, don't trust those lies
Cause the gangs is a bunch of dicks

Gang bang Gang bang
Police ain't nothing but a gang #4

This song is dedicated to all the original gangsters out there
You know what I+m sayin NRPD, NYPD, LAPD, state troopers
And all the Pds in Queens, FBI, CIA, DEA, TNT, ATN, INS, FEMA, Interpol
National Guard
Coast Guard, Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines, Secret Service, and all the
Rest of the
Motherfuckin hogs out there rollin in the mud

http://genius.com/Brand-nubian-gang-bang-lyrics

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Michael Gladwell showed the same results in his book, "Blink".
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Lioness,

Question: Was it a big mistake that Spanish priest, Bartolomo de las Casas recommended that Africans replace the Native Americans who had been already enslaved for 100 years?

Yes or No?


Question: Given that the most dominant slogan in the U.S. black community is that "Black Lives Matter" even after 400 years, should have blacks in the U.S. decided to "get the hell as far away as possible from their oppressors as quickly as possible"--after Emancipation in 1865?

Yes or No?

Note that the killings of blacks by the Police is the norm in Brazil. Brazil tried to solve the problem of blacks by its "whitening policy"--i.e. breed them out by diluting them out.

Argentina solved its black problem by killing them or sending them as cannon fodder during wars.

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Ish Gebor,

How did black subjects do on these tests? Were there significant differences in the way whites and blacks responded? Or did the testers ignore that crucial variable?

If there were significant differences then the sensible thing for the authorities to do is have black police ONLY operate in areas where blacks live.

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quote:
Originally posted by Brada-Anansi:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/07/dallas-police-shot-snipers-ambush/

Dallas cops released this image of a man armed with an assault rifle whole they called a person of interest in the fatal shooting of at least 4 officers ... and he has now turned himself in to Dallas PD.
The man was dressed in a camouflage shirt and black shorts, and shockingly walked openly with his weapon ... without anyone pointing out the rifle to police officers.

 -


Dallas PD want to talk to the man about the shootings which killed 4 officers and wounded 7 others during an ambush. The attack happened in the middle of a protest against the deaths of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile -- and police believe the shots came from snipers in elevated positions.
A second person Dallas PD call a "suspect" has been apprehended.
Story developing ...

I think this guy turned himself in and it was
determined he had nothing to do with the shootings, the problem with open carry is ppl are bound to use them sooner or later.

He was indeed was not the actual suspect they were looking for. I don't know if he has been released yet. But the snipper has been killed.
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quote:
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Question: Given that the most dominant slogan in the U.S. black community is that "Black Lives Matter" even after 400 years, should have blacks in the U.S. decided to "get the hell as far away as possible from their oppressors as quickly as possible"--after Emancipation in 1865?

Yes or No?


It depends on which country one would go to, if the conditions would be better.
Look at standard of living and murder rate

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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
Ish Gebor,

How did black subjects do on these tests? Were there significant differences in the way whites and blacks responded? Or did the testers ignore that crucial variable?

If there were significant differences then the sensible thing for the authorities to do is have black police ONLY operate in areas where blacks live.

Reports say that it is a condition of metal state. Despite the color of the officer. It has become a culture, a tradition, which was set in motion a long time ago.

To really understand this you have to go back, way back in time.

quote:
"Slavery by Another Name is a 90-minute documentary that challenges one of Americans’ most cherished assumptions: the belief that slavery in this country ended with the Emancipation Proclamation. The film tells how even as chattel slavery came to an end in the South in 1865, thousands of African Americans were pulled back into forced labor with shocking force and brutality. It was a system in which men, often guilty of no crime at all, were arrested, compelled to work without pay, repeatedly bought and sold, and coerced to do the bidding of masters. Tolerated by both the North and South, forced labor lasted well into the 20th century.

For most Americans this is entirely new history. Slavery by Another Name gives voice to the largely forgotten victims and perpetrators of forced labor and features their descendants living today."

http://www.pbs.org/tpt/slavery-by-another-name/home/


http://www.pbs.org/show/slavery-another-name/

KRS's his song is deep on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZrAYxWPN6c

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[Produced by Showbiz]

[Refrain]
Woop-woop, that's the sound of da police
Woop-woop, that's the sound of da beast
[Verse 1]
Stand clear, Don man a-talk
You can't stand where I stand, you can't walk where I walk
Watch out, we run New York
Policeman come, we bust him out the park
I know this for a fact, you don't like how I act
You claim I'm sellin' crack but you be doin' that
I'd rather say "see ya" cause I would never be ya
Be an officer, you wicked overseer
Ya hotshot, wanna get props and be a savior
First show a little respect, change your behavior
Change your attitude, change your plan
There could never really be justice on stolen land
Are you really for peace and equality
Or when my car is hooked up, you know you wanna follow me
Your laws are minimal
Cause you won't even think about lookin' at the real criminal
This has got to cease
Cause we be getting hyped to the sound of da police

[Refrain]
Woop-woop, that's the sound of da police
Woop-woop, that's the sound of da beast

[Verse 2]
Now here's a likkle truth, open up your eyes
While you're checking out the boom-bap, check the exercise
Take the word "overseer," like a sample
Repeat it very quickly in a crew, for example
Overseer, overseer, overseer, overseer
Officer, officer, officer, officer
Yeah, officer from overseer
You need a little clarity, check the similarity
The overseer rode around the plantation
The officer is off, patrolling all the nation
The overseer could stop you what you're doing
The officer will pull you over just when he's pursuing
The overseer had the right to get ill
And if you fought back, the overseer had the right to kill
The officer has the right to arrest
And if you fight back they put a hole in your chest
(Woop) They both ride horses
After 400 years, I've got no choices
The police them have a likkle gun
So when I'm on the streets, I walk around with a bigger one
(Woop-woop) I hear it all day
Just so they can run the light and be upon their way

[Refrain]
Woop-woop, that's the sound of da police
Woop-woop, that's the sound of da beast

[Verse 3]
Check out the message in a rough stylee
The real criminals are the C-O-P
You check for undercover and the one P.D
But just a mere Black man, them wann check me
Them check out me car for it shine like the sun
But them jealous or them vexed cause them can't afford one
Black people still slaves up till today
But the Black police officer nah see it that way
Him want a salary, him want it
So he put on a badge and kill people for it
My grandfather had to deal with the cops
My great-grandfather dealt with the cops
My great grandfather had to deal with the cops
And then my great, great, great, great... when it's gonna stop

[Refrain]
Woop-woop, that's the sound of da police
Woop-woop, that's the sound of da beast


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quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by Brada-Anansi:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/07/dallas-police-shot-snipers-ambush/

Dallas cops released this image of a man armed with an assault rifle whole they called a person of interest in the fatal shooting of at least 4 officers ... and he has now turned himself in to Dallas PD.
The man was dressed in a camouflage shirt and black shorts, and shockingly walked openly with his weapon ... without anyone pointing out the rifle to police officers.

 -


Dallas PD want to talk to the man about the shootings which killed 4 officers and wounded 7 others during an ambush. The attack happened in the middle of a protest against the deaths of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile -- and police believe the shots came from snipers in elevated positions.
A second person Dallas PD call a "suspect" has been apprehended.
Story developing ...

I think this guy turned himself in and it was
determined he had nothing to do with the shootings, the problem with open carry is ppl are bound to use them sooner or later.

He was indeed was not the actual suspect they were looking for. I don't know if he has been released yet. But the snipper has been killed.
^^ surprisingly this man Mark Hughes was not involved even though he had brought a legal rifle to the protest, his picture had been twittered
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Lioness,

You did not answer my first question and your answer to my second question was just prevarication.

Again, let's get an answer to question 1.

On question 2, a more direct answer would be better,

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quote:
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Lioness,

Question: Was it a big mistake that Spanish priest, Bartolomo de las Casas recommended that Africans replace the Native Americans who had been already enslaved for 100 years?

Yes or No?



yes
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Ish Gebor,

Are you saying that black subjects were just as liable as whites to shoot other blacks before they shoot whites?

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by Brada-Anansi:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/07/dallas-police-shot-snipers-ambush/

Dallas cops released this image of a man armed with an assault rifle whole they called a person of interest in the fatal shooting of at least 4 officers ... and he has now turned himself in to Dallas PD.
The man was dressed in a camouflage shirt and black shorts, and shockingly walked openly with his weapon ... without anyone pointing out the rifle to police officers.

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2016/07/08/070716-dallas-shooter-twitter-2.jpg


Dallas PD want to talk to the man about the shootings which killed 4 officers and wounded 7 others during an ambush. The attack happened in the middle of a protest against the deaths of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile -- and police believe the shots came from snipers in elevated positions.
A second person Dallas PD call a "suspect" has been apprehended.
Story developing ...

I think this guy turned himself in and it was
determined he had nothing to do with the shootings, the problem with open carry is ppl are bound to use them sooner or later.

He was indeed was not the actual suspect they were looking for. I don't know if he has been released yet. But the snipper has been killed.
^^ surprisingly this man Mark Hughes was not involved even though he had brought a legal rifle to the protest, his picture had been twittered
Mistaken Dallas shooting "suspect" describes ordeal


Mark Hughes was considered a person of interest in the Dallas protest shooting. But while the world was seeing his picture, he was talking with police, and video shows him turning the gun he was carrying over to police moments after the shooting occurred. Hughes and his brother Cory spoke with Dallas CBS affiliate KTVT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZM0Tv_M-Ms

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quote:
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Ish Gebor,

Are you saying that black subjects were just as liable as whites to shoot other blacks before they shoot whites?

Yes, that is what studies show. And I explained why.

It was created systematically by institutional racism.


Report: Aide says Nixon's war on drugs targeted blacks, hippies


Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/


quote:
2016, the ‘Black Lives Matter’ movement has met a lot of resistance from many who shout back, “All lives matter!” Context is important. History is important. Here is why ‘Black Lives Matter’ is important. Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, breaks it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below.

“Two fatal police shootings of black men in less than 48 hours -- one in Louisiana and one in Minnesota -- have reignited long-running tensions over police and race. And at the center of it all will be the Black Lives Matter movement.

Americans are still trying to figure out how they feel about that.

Over the course of its existence, Black Lives Matter has become a polarizing and often contentious political movement. Opponents accuse it of fomenting violence and being anti-police. Supporters say it's a long-overdue reaction to disparate treatment of black people by law enforcement.

Unsurprisingly, views of the movement are split along racial lines. But it's also worth noting that, even among black Americans, support isn't overwhelming, and most Americans don't really know much about it.

A Pew Research Center poll last week found that 41 percent of black people said they support the movement "strongly." An additional 24 percent support it "somewhat" -- 65 percent support overall -- while just 12 percent oppose it.”

Read more here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/07/with-police-killings-back-in-the-headlines-americans-remain-uncertain-about-black-lives-matter/

https://youtu.be/v5asE7Wj_6s
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quote:
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Ish Gebor,

Are you saying that black subjects were just as liable as whites to shoot other blacks before they shoot whites?

look at motive
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
Ish Gebor,

Are you saying that black subjects were just as liable as whites to shoot other blacks before they shoot whites?

look at motive
The motive is racial profiling and prejudice which has along history. You can dance around this all day, it will not change.

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2010 we caught up with original B-Boy and Zulu Charlie Rock who hails from the 22cd division of the Black Spades up on Gun Hill road in the Bronx.. He talks about how the Black Spades evolved and became the Zulu Nation..He talks about Disco King Mario and the founding Spade chaptersat Bronxdale Housing projectwhich was known as Chuck City...

He also talks about how the early gangs were organized and became targets to corrupt police.. He talks about how three members, Wildman, Soulski and Meathead Ron were murdered by police. He noted that because the Black Spades were organized many of them were targeted by the police who tried to break them up and shrink their numbers...

Charlie Rock also talks about how New York was segregated and runs down all the racial unrest and white gangs the Black Spades and later Zulu Nation had to fight.. he talks about the Golden Guineas and the Ministers up in Parkchester.. He talks about the White Assassins and the White Angels...

Rock also explained how the police used to work in concert with some of these white gangs to try and defeat the Black Spades which was the largest gang in NY.. He talks about how the police hung him over a rooftop and threatened to kill him..

https://youtu.be/ycREFrL6-RA
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quote:
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Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
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Ish Gebor,

Are you saying that black subjects were just as liable as whites to shoot other blacks before they shoot whites?

look at motive
The motive is racial profiling and prejudice which has along history. You can dance around this all day, it will not change.
"Motive" means the reason somebody murders somebody else.

Most murders in the U.S. are not racially motivated

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
Ish Gebor,

Are you saying that black subjects were just as liable as whites to shoot other blacks before they shoot whites?

look at motive
The motive is racial profiling and prejudice which has along history. You can dance around this all day, it will not change.
"Motive" means the reason somebody murders somebody else.

Most murders in the U.S. are not racially motivated

The time has come to face the facts.


"something that causes a person to act in a certain way, do a certain thing, etc.; incentive."

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/motive


Now, let's look at how these following act in a certain way, and what these following cause in a certain way!

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/here-are-8-white-people-who-pointed-guns-at-police-officers-and-didnt-get-killed/


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2016,There have been certain instances, caught on tape, where white men with guns are not automatically shot by police officers. Is there a double standard between white people with guns and black people with guns? Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, breaks it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below.

“When a white guy is seen wandering around in public waving a gun, the police usually try to talk him down; he’s probably just having a bad day. Even if the white guy happens to be pointing his gun directly at an officer, his interaction with the police is unlikely to end in the exchange of gunfire. This is called white privilege.

Recent history suggests there’s a certain methodology for how police handle nearly identical gun-related incidents: white guys get arrested, while black guys get shot. Outraged? If not, you need to pay attention.”

https://youtu.be/daVhasi95c4
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/dallas-shooting-suspect-wanted-kill-white-people-white/story?id=40431306

The suspect "wanted to kill officers" and "expressed anger for Black Lives Matter," Brown said.

"None of that makes sense," Brown said.

The suspect also said he was not affiliated with any groups and that he was acting alone, Brown said.


Officials negotiated with the suspect for several hours overnight and exchanged gunfire with him, Brown said.

Then police "saw no other option but to use our bomb robot ... for it to detonate where the suspect was," Brown said.


The suspect died as a result of the bomb, Brown said.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/dallas-shooting-suspect-wanted-kill-white-people-white/story?id=40431306

The suspect "wanted to kill officers" and "expressed anger for Black Lives Matter," Brown said.

"None of that makes sense," Brown said.

The suspect also said he was not affiliated with any groups and that he was acting alone, Brown said.


Officials negotiated with the suspect for several hours overnight and exchanged gunfire with him, Brown said.

Then police "saw no other option but to use our bomb robot ... for it to detonate where the suspect was," Brown said.


The suspect died as a result of the bomb, Brown said.

Of course I am not condoning these killings, but I do understand the frustration. It's not just the police profiling, it's larger than that. So for Brown to say what he said isn't relational either.
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Dallas Ranks No. 3 in Nation for Rate of Fatal Police Shootings

Grassroots activists have worked for years, with limited success, to draw attention to the Dallas Police Department’s use of deadly force — especially fatal shootings of African Americans.

Now, those activists have some fresh ammunition, if you will, in the form of a new report showing that Dallas recorded the third-highest rate of fatal police shootings among the nation’s 10 largest cities from 2010 through 2014.

The report from the Chicago-based Better Government Association, believed to be the first to compare the number of fatal police shootings in the nation’s largest cities, was compiled in the wake of Michael Brown’s death in Ferguson, Missouri, in August 2014.

The report found that Dallas, the nation’s ninth-largest city, recorded 34 fatal police shootings — a rate of 2.7 per 100,000 residents — over the last five years. That rate was the highest in Texas, followed by Houston at No. 5 (2.23), and behind only Phoenix (3.77) and Philadelphia (3.48) nationally.

“It doesn’t surprise me,” said civil rights attorney Shayan Elahi, counsel for the police accountability group Dallas Communities Organizing for Change. “The stats are horrific, and they clearly indicate a problem, whether the city likes to admit it or not. Facts don’t lie.”

Elahi’s group filed an administrative complaint with the U.S. Department of Justice in December calling on the feds to cut off funding for the Dallas Police Department (DPD) until “systemic police misconduct” is remedied. The complaint is pending, and DOJ representatives didn’t respond to a request for comment.

According to the complaint, Dallas recorded 58 fatal police shootings from mid-2002 to 2013. While the Better Government Association report doesn’t include information about race, the complaint states that African Americans, who account for only 25 percent of Dallas’ population, were victims in more than half of those cases (33).

Elahi said the complaint was filed after local officials refused to address the group’s concerns, an allegation echoed by other grassroots activists. But Sgt. Warren Mitchell, a spokesman for DPD, insisted that’s not the case.

Mitchell pointed to DPD’s website, which details recent changes to policy governing the use of deadly force. The changes include automatic notification of the FBI, creation of a community engagement team and ongoing training for officers. DPD also recently began posting information about officer-involved shootings online, which Elahi said was one of the positive outcomes of the DOJ complaint.

“It’s something that has been looked at, not only from our perspective, but from a community perspective as well,” Mitchell said. “We definitely hear them, and we’re doing what we can.”

The Dallas City Council recently agreed to purchase 1,000 police body cameras, but that accounts for fewer than one-third of DPD’s officers.
The Dallas City Council recently agreed to purchase 1,000 police body cameras, but that accounts for fewer than one-third of DPD’s officers, and Mitchell acknowledged that the department still has no formal policy for their use.

Collette Flanagan, founder of Mothers Against Police Brutality, said although it may appear DPD has made progress, she believes those advances are superficial.

Flanagan, whose unarmed son was shot seven times and killed by a Dallas officer in 2013, called for independent investigations into police shootings. She said district attorneys are too often beholden to police unions that help fund their campaigns, adding that no Dallas officer has been indicted for a fatal shooting in 42 years.

Flanagan also called for drug testing of officers involved in fatal shootings, as well as elimination of a DPD rule that allows them to remain silent for 72 hours afterward and review video before making a statement.

“I wouldn’t say things have gotten better on the drilldown,” said Flanagan, who called DPD’s community engagement teams “a farce.”

“We don’t care about you coming to our community and having barbecue and drinking soda with us,” she said. “We want you to stop killing our kids.”

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http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2016/03/dallas-murder-rate-up-dramatically-so-far-this-year.html/


Dallas’ murder rate this year has jumped 71 percent compared with 2015

KTVT-TV (Channel 11) and WFAA-TV (Channel 8) say.

So far this year, 41 homicides have been reported. By this time last year, there were 24.

Police attribute much of the spike to drug-related murders, as well as an increase in family violence killings, WFAA said. Violent crime overall is up about 23 percent compared with last year.

Dallas Police Association president Ron Pinkston told KTVT that the statistics show the city needs more police: “They could be putting bad guys in jail. People that will commit crimes now are usually going to be the people that are going to commit the murders in the future.”

He also told WFAA that low morale and misplaced priorities are problems: “We have homicide detectives out there working patrol instead of working their cases. The city manager has been ignoring the issues, and now the murder rate is skyrocketing.”

Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings told Channel 8 that Police Chief David Brown has asked to add officers: “We are dealing with that in this year’s budget.”

But the mayor also noted that the city has had recent years with historically low numbers of homicides.

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^ interesting post.

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DALLAS COUNTY SHERIFF

Racial Profiling Policy

Purpose: The purpose of this policy is to reaffirm the Dallas County Sheriff's Department's commitment to unbiased law enforcement in all encounters between Deputies and any person.

Policy: It is the policy of this Sheriff’s Department to conduct law enforcement procedures in a proactive manner and to aggressively investigate suspected violations of law. Deputies shall actively enforce state and federal laws in a responsible and professional manner, without regard to race, ethnicity, or national origin. Deputies are strictly prohibited from engaging in racial profiling as defined in this policy. This policy shall be applicable to all persons, whether drivers, passengers, or pedestrians.

http://www.dallascounty.org/department/sheriff/profiling-index.php


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A police officer frisks a man along the side of the road. (credit: JOHAN ORDONEZ/AFP/Getty Images)
FORT WORTH (CBSDFW.COM) – A Fort Worth City Council member is raising questions about the results of the police department’s racial profiling report.

Despite assurances that officers aren’t targeting minorities in traffic stops and searchers, Councilman Frank Moss says the raw numbers appear otherwise. “Without an explanation it looks as if there is racial profiling,” he said.

The report is a collection of information from all Fort Worth police traffic stops with an arrest or where a ticket was issued in 2010.

While police made the most motor vehicle-related contacts with Caucasian drivers, officers searched the vehicles of African American drivers the most.

Reports show that Blacks are also arrested nearly twice as often as Whites or Hispanics. “There needs to be some kind of explanation of why such a disproportionate number of African-Americans were arrested as relates to stops under the racial profiling report,” said Moss.

<<< Click here to read the entire Fort Worth Police Department Racial Profiling Report >>>


Fort Worth Police Chief Jeff Halstead stands by the report but adds the department is getting new computer software that will give even more detailed numbers. “Once we get that product inline and installed we can address that [possible profiling] at every level of supervision to ensure that’s not occurring,” Halstead said.

The new computer system, which will come on line this summer, will not only draw data on who officers are making contact with, but will also offer insight about when, where and how that contact was made. “We can see every individual employee,” Chief Halstead said of the new system. “What kind of force is used against what kind of person, how many stops were made, different races [pulled over] and what part of town.”

According to University of Texas at Arlington criminology expert Alex del Carmen, the true test, as to whether racial profiling is occurring, is how often contraband is actually found when police do searches of cars. “If no contraband was found then clearly you may have an issue relevant to racism,” he said. “If contraband is found in those searches then it rally constitutes good police work.”

But del Carmen went on to stress that, “It is very difficult to measure whether racism takes place inside a police department simply by looking at the numbers.”

State requires that all police departments collect traffic-related data and report the information to their local governing authority by March 1 of each year.

http://www.fortworthpd.com/docmgmt/Final2010_Racial_Profiling-Report_webready.pdf
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Texas University Dean: I Was Stopped For “Walking While Black”

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Dorothy Bland, the Dean of the University of Texas Mayborn School of Journalism, claims she was racially profiled recently in her own neighborhood during her morning walk.

Bland says it happened last Saturday and she penned an opinion piece about the experience in the Dallas Morning News saying she was stopped for “Walking While Black.”

Dash camera video provided by the Corinth Police Department shows Bland walking in the middle of the street before being stopped by two officers.

Corinth officials say she was stopped after a driver had to go around her on the street to avoid hitting her all in front of the officers.

During the stop, one of the officers is heard telling Bland, “You’re impeding traffic for one, and two it’s a safety issue we don’t want you to get hit.”

She is then asked for her identification, which she took exception to saying in the video, “I’m so amazed I get stopped for walking. Do you know how many times I walk this street?”

Despite her claims and public support for it on social media, the Corinth Police Chief Debra Walthall says there is no evidence to support Bland’s accusation that the stop was racially motivated.

Chief Walthall responded to that saying, “What I see are two professional police officers doing their job.”

Dean Bland refused an on-camera interview, but did say in a phone conversation she is ready to get over the experience and she is refocusing her attention on her job.

Corinth officials say at this point there is no need for a further investigation.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/10/29/woman-says-she-was-stopped-for-walking-while-black/
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I wonder how this shooting is going to affect the Black Lives Matter movement.
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
I wonder how this shooting is going to affect the Black Lives Matter movement.

I wonder about that too.

Anyway,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9uTo9CiXHg

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Ish Gebor you have a lot of posts up but few dealing directly with the shooting in Dallas.
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http://www.c-span.org/video/?411923-3/washington-journal-deray-mckesson

^ they take phone calls later in the video

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Who did these shootings ?

How are they related to BLM ?

The whole thing is very fishy.......

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quote:
Originally posted by kdolo:
Who did these shootings ?

How are they related to BLM ?

The whole thing is very fishy.......

The shooters may not be related to the BLM. The chief of police said that the shooter that the police killed in a standoff was angry with the BLM.
Nevertheless the BLM will be forced to make statements on the shooting.
They are investigating possible ties.
Nothing is fishy yet, unless you instantly think any incident is fishy (which many people love to do)

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
http://www.ephotobay.com/share/screen-shot-2016-07-08-at-10-47-32-am.html] http://www.ephotobay.com/image/screen-shot-2016-07-08-at-10-47-32-am.png


http://www.c-span.org/video/?411923-3/washington-journal-deray-mckesson

^ they take phone calls later in the video

I look forward hearing from you on there.
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I also wondered the same thing. Did the shooters get away? One report said 2 shooters the other said 3. They 'triangulated'. whatever that means. But it sounds military.

These guys seem to have some sort of military training. They are not gang-bangers dope heads.


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Originally posted by kdolo:
Who did these shootings ?

How are they related to BLM ?

The whole thing is very fishy.......


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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
I also wondered the same thing. Did the shooters get away? One report said 2 shooters the other said 3. They 'triangulated'. whatever that means. But it sounds military.

These guys seem to have some sort of military training. They are not gang-bangers dope heads.


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Originally posted by kdolo:
Who did these shootings ?

How are they related to BLM ?

The whole thing is very fishy.......


One person killed, and three in custody. And it's not sure these have anything to do with the altercation. They however don't cooperate.
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'The shooters may not be related to the BLM'

Of course they are not related to BLM.

Duh. And why would BLM need to make any statement on anything ?

Silly Albinos.

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quote:
Originally posted by kdolo:
'The shooters may not be related to the BLM'

Of course they are not related to BLM.

Duh. And why would BLM need to make any statement on anything ?

Silly Albinos.

They likely want to analyze them, to see if they need to be eradicated fast or slow. It happened before with other grassroots organizations. From what I understand the BLM was/is too soft/ peaceful for him, so he decided to take matter in his own hands.
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James brown on police brutality, 1988!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbI9jmHIM0g

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quote:
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Ish Gebor you have a lot of posts up but few dealing directly with the shooting in Dallas.

What I post is on the culture and history of racial profiling and police brutality. I go to the very core of the problem. The reason why you say this, is so you can derail the actual issues, as usually. This is not just about Dallas, and you know this very well.

This topic has been addressed along time ago, it only now has become "popular", because of cellphone cameras.


"Police is a beast, I hate harassment"

Lakim Shabazz - First In Existence (1988)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVTWWUCOL5Y


These things are shocking and disturbing.

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