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Jeffrey Almonte

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DeRay McKesson behaved, yet?

DeRay McKesson Arrested During Baton Rouge Black Lives Matter Protest


Prominent Black Lives Matter activist DeRay McKesson was arrested at a protest in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, late Saturday night as he live-streamed from his Periscope account.

McKesson was participating in a march in the city where officers shot and killed Alton Sterling last week. The video from Periscope, an app that broadcasts live footage, shows McKesson marching along the highway as ordered by officers, who tell him to stay within the “sidewalk.” But the video cuts abruptly at the 4:45 mark, when an officer says, “You’re under arrest.” The feed shakes as the phone moves around, and McKesson says, “I’m under arrest, y’all.”

According to Wesley Lowery, a reporter at the Washington Post, McKesson was taken to a holding cell along with 33 others.

Brittany Packnett, another prominent activist who was marching directly behind McKesson, can be heard in the video telling the officer, “We’re on the shoulder, there is no sidewalk sir.”

An officer appears to identify McKesson by his “loud shoes.” (McKesson is known for wearing a blue vest and red sneakers.) “You in them loud shoes, if I see you in the road, if I get close to you, you’re going to jail,” the officer says.

Packnett picked up McKesson’s phone and continued to stream the aftermath of the arrest. “He was standing on the side of the road. He was not disobeying police officers whatsoever. He was snatched and grabbed,” she says.

“Start calling the Baton Rouge Police Department to demand that he’s released,” she tells viewers. After her encouragement to share the department’s contact information on Twitter, many promptly followed her instructions:

”He very clearly was behind the white line,” Packnett told The Huffington Post.

McKesson, along with hundreds of other protesters, gathered in the streets to speak out against this week’s police killings of Sterling and Philando Castile. His arrest occurred as protesters walked away from a lengthy demonstration that had begun to die down.

Protesters marched down the roads alongside police, who were equipped with riot gear. McKesson captured the tense moments on his Twitter timeline, and described how police were “provoking protesters” during the demonstration.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/deray-mckesson-arrested-baton-rouge_us_5781c54ee4b01edea78e3aa3

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Great video. You have to listen to the whole video.

It has nothing to do with Black people behaving. The aboriginal Americans were Africans or Blacks. The Pequot, Yamasee and etc., Black Native Americans , according to history were well behaved and white people still murdered them, because many whites felt Black lives did not matter.

When Black people minded their own business and built great businesses in Tulsa Oklahoma, whites bombed the neighborhood, killed many Blacks and eventually stole the wealth of these Blacks eventhough they behaved. They killed these Blacks because they felt Black lives didn't matter.

In Chicago during the Race Riot of 1919 whites invaded the Black community and killed Blacks at well until WWI Black veterans got their weapons and fought the whites off. There was some loss of life during the 1919 Race Riot, but not as many Blacks were killed in Chicago and loss of property as in Tulsa, because the WWI Black Vets felt Black lives mattered so they got their guns and protected their people.

It does not matter if Black people behave or not, institutional racism over the past 500 years, beginning with interactions between whites and the Black aboriginal people in the U.S., have been centered on the belief among many whites that Black lives don't matter. So the police and military has always had a free hand in murdering Blacks without fear of being punished.

There are 18,000 police agencies in the U.S., and 18,000 different policies concerning policing in these districts. If we want to see true protection for Black people who behave we need a national law that tells local police what they can and can not do.

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Great video. You have to listen to the whole video.


Click the link below, and watch the discussion.

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US police killings: What role does prejudice play?

This week's fatal shootings by police in the US have restarted national outrage about the treatment of African Americans.

And highlighted once more, the racial disparities in America's criminal justice system.

Alton Sterling was pinned to the ground and shot at close range by police in Louisiana on Tuesday.

A day later in Minnesota, Philando Castile was shot by police in his car, with his girlfriend and her daughter in the backseat.

That was followed by targeted shootings on police officers at a rally against police brutality in Dallas, on Thursday night.

One of the suspects said he was upset about the recent police shootings and wanted to kill white police officers.

Inside Story looks at how we make sense of bias against minorities. And asks, is it a bias we all carry?

Presenter: Martine Dennis

Guests:

Rashawn Ray - Assistant Professor of Sociology at the University of Maryland.

Simon Woolley - Director of Operation Black Vote - an organisation that strives for racial justice and equality in the UK.

Howard Ross - Founding partner of consulting firm Cook Ross Incorporated, which works on diversity, inclusion and cultural competency.

Source: Al Jazeera

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestory/2016/07/police-killings-role-prejudice-play-160708162355692.html

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A Brief History of Slavery and the Origins of American Policing

Written by Victor E. Kappeler, Ph.D.


The birth and development of the American police can be traced to a multitude of historical, legal and political-economic conditions. The institution of slavery and the control of minorities, however, were two of the more formidable historic features of American society shaping early policing. Slave patrols and Night Watches, which later became modern police departments, were both designed to control the behaviors of minorities. For example, New England settlers appointed Indian Constables to police Native Americans (National Constable Association, 1995), the St. Louis police were founded to protect residents from Native Americans in that frontier city, and many southern police departments began as slave patrols. In 1704, the colony of Carolina developed the nation's first slave patrol. Slave patrols helped to maintain the economic order and to assist the wealthy landowners in recovering and punishing slaves who essentially were considered property.

Policing was not the only social institution enmeshed in slavery. Slavery was fully institutionalized in the American economic and legal order with laws being enacted at both the state and national divisions of government. Virginia, for example, enacted more than 130 slave statutes between 1689 and 1865. Slavery and the abuse of people of color, however, was not merely a southern affair as many have been taught to believe. Connecticut, New York and other colonies enacted laws to criminalize and control slaves. Congress also passed fugitive Slave Laws, laws allowing the detention and return of escaped slaves, in 1793 and 1850. As Turner, Giacopassi and Vandiver (2006:186) remark, “the literature clearly establishes that a legally sanctioned law enforcement system existed in America before the Civil War for the express purpose of controlling the slave population and protecting the interests of slave owners. The similarities between the slave patrols and modern American policing are too salient to dismiss or ignore. Hence, the slave patrol should be considered a forerunner of modern American law enforcement.”

The legacy of slavery and racism did not end after the Civil War. In fact it can be argued that extreme violence against people of color became even worse with the rise of vigilante groups who resisted Reconstruction. Because vigilantes, by definition, have no external restraints, lynch mobs had a justified reputation for hanging minorities first and asking questions later. Because of its tradition of slavery, which rested on the racist rationalization that Blacks were sub-human, America had a long and shameful history of mistreating people of color, long after the end of the Civil War. Perhaps the most infamous American vigilante group, the Ku Klux Klan started in the 1860s, was notorious for assaulting and lynching Black men for transgressions that would not be considered crimes at all, had a White man committed them. Lynching occurred across the entire county not just in the South. Finally, in 1871 Congress passed the Ku Klux Klan Act, which prohibited state actors from violating the Civil Rights of all citizens in part because of law enforcements’ involvement with the infamous group. This legislation, however, did not stem the tide of racial or ethnic abuse that persisted well into the 1960s.

Though having white skin did not prevent discrimination in America, being White undoubtedly made it easier for ethnic minorities to assimilate into the mainstream of America. The additional burden of racism has made that transition much more difficult for those whose skin is black, brown, red, or yellow. In no small part because of the tradition of slavery, Blacks have long been targets of abuse. The use of patrols to capture runaway slaves was one of the precursors of formal police forces, especially in the South. This disastrous legacy persisted as an element of the police role even after the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. In some cases, police harassment simply meant people of African descent were more likely to be stopped and questioned by the police, while at the other extreme, they have suffered beatings, and even murder, at the hands of White police. Questions still arise today about the disproportionately high numbers of people of African descent killed, beaten, and arrested by police in major urban cities of America.


--Victor E. Kappeler, Ph.D.
Associate Dean and Foundation Professor
School of Justice Studies
Eastern Kentucky University

References

National Constables Association (1995). Constable. In W. G. Bailey (Ed.), The Encyclopedia of Police Science (2nd ed., pp. 114–114). New York, NY: Garland Press.

Turner, K. B. , Giacopassi , D. , & Vandiver , M. (2006) . Ignoring the Past: Coverage of Slavery and Slave Patrols in Criminal Justice Texts. Journal of Criminal Justice Education, 17: (1), 181–195.

Download a free eBook of The History of Policing in the United States

Published on January 07, 2014

http://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook/brief-history-slavery-and-origins-american-policing

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quote:
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
[qb] Great video. You have to listen to the whole video.


Click the link below, and watch the discussion.

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US police killings: What role does prejudice play?


did you watch the whole video ?
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters:
[qb] Great video. You have to listen to the whole video.


Click the link below, and watch the discussion.

quote:
US police killings: What role does prejudice play?


did you watch the whole video ?

Prejudice has little to do with killing innocent Blacks. Whites have been killing us since they first came in contact with the aboriginal Blacks who taught them how to farm and live off the land. All these Blacks got from doing good was murder, rape and thief of our land. They use murder as a way to promote fear among Blacks.
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DeRay Mckesson Arrested in Baton Rouge Protest

The arrest occurred about 11:15 p.m. as Mr. McKesson and other protesters were marching in Baton Rouge on Airline Highway, where they were warned by the police not to stray onto the road.

Mr. Mckesson, 31, repeatedly tells viewers that there is no sidewalk. Then, about five minutes into the broadcast, the video gets shaky and you hear the police say: “City police. You’re under arrest. Don’t fight me. Don’t fight me.” Then Mr. Mckesson shouts, “I’m under arrest, y’all.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/11/us/deray-mckesson-arrested-in-baton-rouge-protest.html?_r=0

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quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
DeRay Mckesson Arrested in Baton Rouge Protest

The arrest occurred about 11:15 p.m. as Mr. McKesson and other protesters were marching in Baton Rouge on Airline Highway, where they were warned by the police not to stray onto the road.

Mr. Mckesson, 31, repeatedly tells viewers that there is no sidewalk. Then, about five minutes into the broadcast, the video gets shaky and you hear the police say: “City police. You’re under arrest. Don’t fight me. Don’t fight me.” Then Mr. Mckesson shouts, “I’m under arrest, y’all.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/11/us/deray-mckesson-arrested-in-baton-rouge-protest.html?_r=0

this thread is about a video that a kid from NY made
If you want to talk about the DeRay Mckesson arrest that should be a separate thread

Again, watch the video to the end.

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http://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook/brief-history-slavery-and-origins-american-policing


Maybe if Whites would behave...

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
DeRay Mckesson Arrested in Baton Rouge Protest

The arrest occurred about 11:15 p.m. as Mr. McKesson and other protesters were marching in Baton Rouge on Airline Highway, where they were warned by the police not to stray onto the road.

Mr. Mckesson, 31, repeatedly tells viewers that there is no sidewalk. Then, about five minutes into the broadcast, the video gets shaky and you hear the police say: “City police. You’re under arrest. Don’t fight me. Don’t fight me.” Then Mr. Mckesson shouts, “I’m under arrest, y’all.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/11/us/deray-mckesson-arrested-in-baton-rouge-protest.html?_r=0

this thread is about a video that a kid from NY made
If you want to talk about the DeRay Mckesson arrest that should be a separate thread

Again, watch the video to the end.

The title says: Maybe if Black People Behave


DeRay McKesson was arrested, yet behaved. It is perfected in line with what Jeffrey Almonte addressed. But you are too dumb to see this. What Jeffrey Almonte said is a spinoff of something way bigger. But you keep joking around.

Dr. Clyde is an elderly man, who has seen more than most of us. He tells that whites in America always have been doing this killing and and arresting and that it is nothing new or special. This is what that essays say, this is what was said at discussion, led by the host Martine Dennis.


He strategically put on a white hoody.

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quote:
Originally posted by kdolo:
http://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook/brief-history-slavery-and-origins-american-policing


Maybe if Whites would behave...

If that was only true.

quote:
'Most drug offenders are white, male, young adults"

http://www.jrsa.org/ibrrc/using-data/data_quality/data_elements/drug/drug_examples.html


quote:
"White People Stopped By New York Police Are More Likely To Have Guns Or Drugs Than Minorities"

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/05/22/2046451/white-people-stopped-by-new-york-police-are-more-likely-to-have-guns-or-drugs-than-minorities/


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"Police are searching black drivers more often, but finding more illegal stuff with white drivers"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/27/police-are-searching-black-drivers-more-often-but-finding-more-illegal-stuff-with-white-drivers-2/


quote:
"City Police Stop Whites Equally but Frisk Them Less, a Study Finds"

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/21/nyregion/21rand.html?_r=0

quote:

Councilman Says FWPD Racial Profiling Report Shows Bias


"The report is a collection of information from all Fort Worth police traffic stops with an arrest or where a ticket was issued in 2010.

While police made the most motor vehicle-related contacts with Caucasian drivers, officers searched the vehicles of African American drivers the most.

Reports show that Blacks are also arrested nearly twice as often as Whites or Hispanics. “There needs to be some kind of explanation of why such a disproportionate number of African-Americans were arrested as relates to stops under the racial profiling report,” said Moss."

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/05/24/councilman-says-fwpd-racial-profiling-report-shows-bias/
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quote:
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Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
[qb] DeRay Mckesson Arrested in Baton Rouge Protest

The arrest occurred about 11:15 p.m. as Mr. McKesson and other protesters were marching in Baton Rouge on Airline Highway, where they were warned by the police not to stray onto the road.

Mr. Mckesson, 31, repeatedly tells viewers that there is no sidewalk. Then, about five minutes into the broadcast, the video gets shaky and you hear the police say: “City police. You’re under arrest. Don’t fight me. Don’t fight me.” Then Mr. Mckesson shouts, “I’m under arrest, y’all.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/11/us/deray-mckesson-arrested-in-baton-rouge-protest.html?_r=0

this thread is about a video that a kid from NY made
If you want to talk about the DeRay Mckesson arrest that should be a separate thread

Again, watch the video to the end.

The title says: Maybe if Black People Behave


DeRay McKesson was arrested, yet behaved. It is perfected in line with what Jeffrey Almonte addressed. But you are too dumb to see this. What Jeffrey Almonte said is a spinoff of something way bigger. But you keep joking around.


I'm not joking around at all. I posted the video. Clyde got it you didn't.


DeRay McKesson was arrested and released for charged with obstruction of a roadway.
People get arrested at protests . A protest is a special event.

The issue is not what happens a special events. The is is what happens at everyday situations where the claim that excessive force is used.

Again , this thread is about the opinion of Jeffrey Almonte, what he said on the video. About Alton Sterling and Philando Castile getting killed not about a protester arrested and spending less than a day in jail. You didn't even know who DeRay McKesson was until I started posting about him.

Often protesters want to be arrested. It's part of the civil disobedience strategy, look into it.

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From my understanding there are ghettos in Newark, New York and many other places.

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Ish Gebor - the worst kind of Dumb-Assed kid is the Dumb-Assed kid who wants to correct people who actually lived through it.

Damn you're stupid!

Ish Gebor it might be more sensible to make a thread about Police brutality and racism in the Netherlands
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"Ish Gebor it might be more sensible to make a thread about Police brutality and racism in the Netherlands"

It's not that common over here. We had a few minor incident over here recently, and it went to governmental level. To put a stop to this immediately.

The police over here his being monitored over these issues, and every bullet fired need to be explained. You can not just empty your clip over petty ****. Also the training they receive over here takes longer and more has dedication to diversity. A pupil is not allowed to carry gun and is under the guidance of a more experienced cop. In the U.S. all these things are different. All this doest mean you can't have racist individuals (cops) who act out different towards certain ethnic groups. But as I said, these things are being monitored closely.


United States — Gun Facts, Figures and the Law

Federal firearm legislation is limited (below). Many municipalities and all states regulate gun use with their own local law (Go To).

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states


Netherlands — Gun Facts, Figures and the Law

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/netherlands

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
I'm not joking around at all. I posted the video. Clyde got it you didn't.

LOL I did get the video you posted, by Jeffrey Almonte.

This why I wrote: DeRay McKesson behaved, yet?

The news was fresh when I posted it, look into it.

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
DeRay McKesson was arrested and released for charged with obstruction of a roadway.
People get arrested at protests . A protest is a special event.

The eye witnesses stated something else. You can read it in that post, look into it.

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
You didn't even know who DeRay McKesson was until I started posting about him.

So? That might be true or not. lol That is simply your assumption.
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