KRS-One: “Anyone Who Has a Problem With Afrika Bambaataa Should Quit Hip-Hop” Read M
“Some of us are infallible,” KRS-One said. “Some of us are going to have to be untouchable or our entire culture is going to fall. Our culture cannot fall on the accusations of four people, that’s weak.”
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It doesn't fall, and Bambaataa is not the Godfather of Hip Hop. KRS keeps mentioning this as if is fact, and at one point everybody believed it. But Bambaataa was a baby Spade, he wasn't a originator. The credit goes to the original Black Spades, "King Disco Mario" is the Godfather of Hip Hop. Peer such as Kool Herc were prior to Bam. People need to realize.
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: "King Disco Mario" is the Godfather of Hip Hop.
Hip Hop is vocally rhyming over beats.
Hop Hip is a culture, a composition of different elements. The foundation is at the Black Spades. They set these things in motion. Disco Mario is the founder / founding father aka the godfather. Africa Bambaataa was a "baby" Spade. Babies are little, as you probably will know.
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so called break beats are nothing but a funky beat. That already existed. It's only a funk track stripped down so someone can rap over it.
The "four elements' is just something someone came up with. Certainly Hip Hop doesn't need graffiti and graffiti has no direct connection to music.
Also breakdancing is not essential to Hip Hop. Look at Hip Hop videos of the past 10 years . How many have breakdancing in them? .01%
And you don't even need a DJ to do a Hip Hop show it just looks cool to have one.
Also you completely ignored the theme of this thread. It is not about who is the "godfather" of "Hip Hop"
It is about KRS Ones remarks on child molestation allegations on Bambaata That is the more important issue
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: so called break beats are nothing but a funky beat. That already existed. It's only a funk track stripped down so someone can rap over it.
The "four elements' is just something someone came up with. Certainly Hip Hop doesn't need graffiti and graffiti has no direct connection to music.
Also breakdancing is not essential to Hip Hop. Look at Hip Hop videos of the past 10 years . How many have breakdancing in them? .01%
And you don't even need a DJ to do a Hip Hop show it just looks cool to have one.
Also you completely ignored the theme of this thread. It is not about who is the "godfather" of "Hip Hop"
It is about KRS Ones remarks on child molestation allegations on Bambaata That is the more important issue
Why do you claim to know more than those from the Black Spade 1st division? They explain the music the listen to and what they danced to.
In the he second video was Kool Herc, talking about the Hip Hop Anthem. But for some funny reason you think you know more. lol Ignorant clown. There was a "select type of break beats", not just any beat. They already existed lol smh. How else could they play them? lol So much for your logic.
There is not four but five elements in Hip Hop culture.
quote:The DJ was the AXIS in the culture. Little do you know.
MARIO - THE FIRST KING OF HIP HOP CULTURE
Many Dj's, mc's and crews has had their time on top of the hip hop world...
Mario The Black Spades with their team of dj's was the first. 1970 - 1975...
Zulu King Cholly Rock sharing some of his great wealth of knowledge in hip hop history... He refers to Mario as "the first hip hop impresario"...Mario was responsible for starting the careers of some of our hip hop pioneers.
quote: [Intro: Just Ice and KRS One] To the best of my knowledge I guess that I'm fresh And when I manifest I never protest (Hold it, hold it. What's going on, Just?) Yo KRS, what's the, what's the, what's the purpose of you stopping me? (Yo man kick the rhymes you was just kicking to me a while ago) Aight
[Verse 1: Just Ice] I'll wax and maim, rappers who proclaim To be the epitome of this game Fronting like you hard, rugged and rough Soft like butter, creamy like a puff On the mic no sense, head very dense Just listen to the gangster and I will convince All that doubt my power of speech The title of the gangster they tried to impeach But um, it is protected by the black and the red It's not true all gangsters are dead Not a gangster with a gun, doing crime none of that Kill a MC with the rhyme cause I'm the gangster of rap In fact, exact, I'm the dominant black Coming full force on, and power that's packed For all the party people this is a fact For all the pioneers I'm going way back [Bridge: KRS One] Goddamn, that is funky funky funky fresh (Dope! Dope!) If you could just keep kicking that, we'll be alright til '88 Dig it (Dope! Dope!)
[Verse 2: Just Ice] Going way way back to the early days Of 75 and the Black Spades Chilling with my homeboy Muscle Man Ron In the Boogie Down Bronx BKA Pelan It was a privilege for people to see Bambaataa rocking hard at 123 On a Friday night the boys would come running To hear big beats that were shocking and stunning In the Hill, not a thing was chill Sound Masters on the loose and acting ill Up top, every weekend rock Either 131 or around that block But anywhere Uptown, you always heard the sound Hip Hop, funky beats, MCs getting down The truth I swear, admit and declare The Bronx was the first, I know, I was there The beats were dope, the sound was on By the way saying Peace to my brother Melquan Dedications have a little bit more The L Brothers, Grand Wizard Theodore I can't forget where we used to ill With the young Sound Masters in Castle Hill I can keep going on, for more and more With Breakout, and Baron, and the Funky 4 On the other side of town, the mics in their hands The lecherous, treacherous also perpetuous MCs cold in command And if you listen to that for an actual fact For all the pioneers I'm going way back
[Bridge: KRS One] Word! Now you know I know This is KRS with Just Ice (Dope! Dope!) Ha ha. Talk about dope beats (Dope!) Yo Just, kick me one more verse, please!
[Verse 3: Just Ice] Let's rest, so I can take a breath Cause I'm bearing the truth and nothing less No disrepect intended but I have to show ya If I didn't say your name that means I did not know ya To get to the point, to make it clear If I don't say your name that means you was not there It's true, I'm from the old school I'm the professor and they are my pupils I teach and never preach Not a bloodsucker, parasite or a leech I'm telling you how, it was or is The Bronx is the home for the Hip Hop kids A long time ago when I was raising hell With the nappy head of hair at the age of 12 I saw and heard, crews that rocked The Cold Crushers, Monsters, Breakout, Sasquatch You're not familiar with the funky sound That proves it right there, you wasn't down Had to earn a position, and do hard work You can ask Kool Herc or my man Red Alert He'll tell ya, because he knows for sure About Flash, EZ Mike, and the Furious Four I'll run off some names, with no offence Listen up real close, as I commence Coke La Rock, Clark Kent, my man Cool Fish Homeboy Tre Dee and Frisky Frisk Wonderful sincere, in the atmosphere Almighty Kay Gee at Union Square Dr. Kik rock on, and my man Shelt La Rocker B.I., KRS, C Rasta Definitely we would rock And I can't forget my homeboy Big Knot It's the truth and for an actual fact For all the pioneers I'm going way back
[Outro: KRS One and Just Ice] Well I think that's about as far back as we can go (Saying peace to my man T La Rock!) Word! Saying peace to my brother Scott La Rock, he's in here! (Scott La Rock rock on!) Word (DMX peace!) Peace! (Peace!)
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Certainly Hip Hop doesn't need graffiti and graffiti has no direct connection to music.
It was part of "urban culture/ street culture". It became integrated before the Wild Style. In Style Wars.
It was Fab 5 Freddy who met with Blondie, she knew people in the art scene, this way Wild Style was created. This is why she made a semi-rap song, with Fab 5 Freddy in it.
quote:In this interview w/ LA Stereo, hip hop pioneer Fab Freddy talks about his career: from being a graffiti artist to hanging out with Basquiat, his vision as a producer on "Wild Style" bringing all the hip hop elements together, YO MTV Raps, touring in France in the early 80ies, and hip hop culture in general.
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: rap started with toasting.
no it didn't
Yes, clown it did. Toasting is the speech form taken from Jamaica by Jamaican communities who moved to the NY, Bronx, during the 50-60's.
quote: Toasting is a style of lyrical chanting which in Dancehall music involves a deejay talking over a riddim. Though the art of chanting over a beat is quite ancient, and found in many African-based musical traditions, Toasting became quite popular in Jamaica in the late 1960s and early 1970s. With the use of "sound systems" (traveling deejays and producers with large speakers and a library of beats and riddims) Toasting became a part of the musical entertainment.
Toasting has been used in various ways, whether it is chanting over a drum beat, as well as in Jamaican music forms, like incorporating it with genres such as Ska, Reggae, Dancehall, and Dub. Toasting is also often used in Soca and Bouyon music as well. Toasting's mix of talking and chanting may have influenced the development of MCing in the US Hip Hop music scene and now has channeled other forms such as singjaying which is the combination of singing and toastin
Grandmaster Caz on Coke La Rock Being Hip-Hop's First MC
quote: Speaking exclusively with VladTV, Grandmaster Caz schools Hip-Hop fans on the genre's humble stages, how b-boys came into fruition and why he considers Coke La Rock to be Hip-Hop's first emcee.
Caz says his influence came from artists like James Brown, Barry Manilow and Chicago. Since there were just two radio stations in the '70s, Hip-Hop's roots were infused by a mix of soul, folk and other sounds. The rapper and pioneer also explains that Hip-Hop borrowed many breaks or "get down" sections of popular songs. With the breaks encouraging listeners to get on the dance floor, breakdancers or "B-Boys" were born.
Caz's friendship with fellow pioneer Kool Herc happened organically since they were practically neighbors. While he was too young to go to his parties, he was able to enjoy them once they became outside functions.
While Caz considers himself to be the first actual rapper, he gives credit to DJ's who essentially spoke on the mic during parties. In addition to DJ Hollywood, Caz says he would give credit to Coke La Rock as Hip-Hop's first artist.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] I know what it is and rap didn't start with toasting
Are you serious? lol
want proof go back and watch the videos I added to that comment
lioness, orig B-girl
I have no idea why you put up a song like "Daddy U Roy - Wake The Town". lol
wake up fool, that's the first toasting record
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
It;s debatable whether: "Here Comes The Judge - Pigmeat Markham" was a Hip Hop song. the art of rhyming is older of course.
I didn't say it was a Hip Hop record pay attention
It's the first or one of the first records of rap over a funky beat
LOL Wake up fool? LOL I posted relevant sources for you to read, but you can't comprehend. Typical.
Pigment Markham made a song on which he rhymed true so and it was cool, but where is the consistence in his songs with this style?
The MC's we speak of had consistency, this evolved eventually into what it became. Telling a joke once, doesn't make you a stand up comedian. That's what I am saying.
Even WIKI your favorite source says it:
quote: Toasting, chatting (rap in other parts of the Anglo Caribbean), or deejaying is the act of talking or chanting, usually in a monotone melody, over a rhythm or beat by a deejay. Traditionally, the method of toasting originated from the griots of Caribbean calypso and mento traditions.[1]
Toasting has been used in various African traditions, such as griots chanting over a drum beat, as well as in the United States and Jamaican music forms, such as ska, reggae, dancehall, and dub; it also exists in Grime and Hip Hop coming out of the United Kingdom, which typically has a lot of Caribbean influence. Toasting is also often used in soca and bouyon music. The African American oral tradition of toasting, a mix of talking and chanting, influenced the development of MCing in US hip hop music. The combination of singing and toasting is known as singjaying.
In the late 1950s deejay toasting was developed by Count Machuki.[2] He conceived the idea from listening to disc jockeys on American radio stations. He would do African American jive over the music while selecting and playing R&B music. Deejays like Count Machuki working for producers would play the latest hits on traveling sound systems at parties and add their toasts or vocals to the music. These toasts consisted of comedy, boastful commentaries, half-sung rhymes, rhythmic chants, squeals, screams and rhymed storytelling.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^ why are you wasting my time you said
"rap started with toasting"
then I posted the first toasting record in 1970
then I posted Pigmeat who actually recorded two songs in 1968 that actually sound like rap
take your L like a man
what you dont realize is that people make up their own history or exaggerate and bend.
It is you who is wasting peoples times. Don't you get it? Multiple sources are saying this same. But as usually you insist on your opinions. lol smh Typical.
Then when some one asks you a question, your response is "stop wasting my time"? lol Typical.
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^ can you confirm that contemporary rap had direct influence from pigmeat (a comedian) in the early 70s?
And dude, dejaying has been a thing in NY since before wake this town was recorded... I don't understand your point or passion right now...Dejaying predates funk itself. Posts: 1781 | From: New York | Registered: Jul 2016
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^ why are you wasting my time you said
"rap started with toasting"
then I posted the first toasting record in 1970
then I posted Pigmeat who actually recorded two songs in 1968 that actually sound like rap
take your L like a man
what you dont realize is that people make up their own history or exaggerate and bend.
It is you who is wasting peoples times. Don't you get it? Multiple sources are saying this same. But as usually you insist on your opinions. lol smh Typical.
Then when some one asks you a question, your response is "stop wasting my time"? lol Typical.
I put up the evidence and proved these multiple sources wrong.
-you have to listen to the music to judge not what you've been spoon fed in commentary
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^ why are you wasting my time you said
"rap started with toasting"
then I posted the first toasting record in 1970
then I posted Pigmeat who actually recorded two songs in 1968 that actually sound like rap
take your L like a man
what you dont realize is that people make up their own history or exaggerate and bend.
It is you who is wasting peoples times. Don't you get it? Multiple sources are saying this same. But as usually you insist on your opinions. lol smh Typical.
Then when some one asks you a question, your response is "stop wasting my time"? lol Typical.
I put up the evidence and proved these multiple sources wrong.
-you have to listen to the music to judge not what you've been spoon fed in commentary
Where is the consistence and direct influence? Where is that DIRECT evidence? This was people are asking, clown.
I couldn't find better, older 60's examples. But this is what we/ they are talking about.
quote:Yo what's up Blastmaster KRS One, this jam is kicking Word, yo what up D-Nice? (Yo what's up Scott La Rock?) Yo man we chilling just funky fresh jam I want to tell you a little something about us We're the Boogie Down Productions crew And due to the fact that no-one else out there knew what time it was We have to tell you a little story about where we we come from
[Hook x4] South Bronx, the South South Bronx [Verse 1: KRS-One] Many people tell me this style is terrific It is kinda different but let's get specific KRS-One specialize in music I'll only use this type of style when I choose it Party people in the place to be, KRS-One attack You got dropped off MCA cause the rhymes you wrote was wack So you think that hip-hop had its start out in Queensbridge If you pop that junk up in the Bronx you might not live Cause you're in
[Hook]
[Verse 2] I came with Scott La Rock to express one thing I am a teacher and others are kings If that's the title they earn, well it's well deserved, but Without a crown, see, I still burn You settle for a pebble not a stone like a rebel KRS-One is the holder of a boulder, money folder You want a fresh style let me show ya Now way back in the days when hip-hop began With Coke LaRock, Kool Herc, and then Bam B-boys ran to the latest jam But when it got shot up they went home and said "Damn There's got to be a better way to hear our music every day B-boys getting blown away but coming outside anyway" They tried again outside in Cedar Park Power from a street light made the place dark But yo, they didn't care, they turned it out I know a few understand what I'm talking about Remember Bronx River, rolling thick With Kool DJ Red Alert and Chuck Chillout on the mix When Afrika Islam was rocking the jams And on the other side of town was a kid named Flash Patterson and Millbrook projects Casanova all over, ya couldn't stop it The Nine Lives Crew, the Cypress Boys The real Rock Steady taking out these toys As odd as it looked, as wild as it seems I didn't hear a peep from a place called Queens It was seventy-six to 1980 The dreads in Brooklyn was crazy You couldn't bring out your set with no hip-hop Because the pistols would go So why don't you wise up, show all the people in the place that you are wack Instead of tryna take out LL, you need to take your homeboys off the crack Cause if you don't, well, then their nerves will become shot And that would leave the job up to my own Scott La Rock And he's from
[Hook]
The human TR-808, D-Nice The poet, the Blastmaster KRS-ONE The Grand Incredible DJ Scott La Rock Boogie... Down... Productions Fresh for '86, you suckers!
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quote:Originally posted by Elmaestro: ^ can you confirm that contemporary rap had direct influence from pigmeat (a comedian) in the early 70s?
And dude, dejaying has been a thing in NY since before wake this town was recorded... I don't understand your point or passion right now...Dejaying predates funk itself.
If Dejaying predates funk then Dejaying is not Hip Hop it is just something that Hip Hop includes as part of it.
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Pigmeat Markham Here come da Judge actually sounds like rap, compare it to toasting
Influence is another story, Rapper's Delight by the Sugar Hill Gang, 11 year later is the start of the rap music genre
rap doesn't start with toasting it's just something similar going on at the same time - start listening to some old toasting before you even get at me
Although it has been written that La Rock comes from Jamaica, in reality his parents were from North Carolina.
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quote:Originally posted by Elmaestro: ^ can you confirm that contemporary rap had direct influence from pigmeat (a comedian) in the early 70s?
And dude, dejaying has been a thing in NY since before wake this town was recorded... I don't understand your point or passion right now...Dejaying predates funk itself.
If Dejaying predates funk then Dejaying is not Hip Hop it is just something that Hip Hop includes as part of it.
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Pigmeat Markham Here come da Judge actually sounds like rap, compare it to toasting
Influence is another story, Rapper's Delight by the Sugar Hill Gang, 11 year later is the start of the rap music genre
rap doesn't start with toasting it's just something similar going on at the same time - start listening to some old toasting before you even get at me
What you still don't get is the consisted pathern. LOL SMH
The first MC's started with a toasting style, as it transformed to rap, as was shown multiple times. All who where there say this.
Actually it was Caz who wrote the Sugar Hill songs. And it was Sylvia who is at the foundation of the first Hip Hop label Sugar Hill Records.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: "Rapper's Delight by the Sugar Hill Gang, 11 year later is the start of the rap music genre"
LOL This person is crazy ignorant. It's so stupid it has to be a sickness.
Btw, Fatback - King Tim III was released before Sugar Hill. "b girl" lol
The Funky 4+1 did their thing long before they stated.
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L-Brothers VS Herculords: Galaxy 2000 @ The Bronx River Center 1978 Part 1/5
L Brothers VS Herculords: Galaxy 2000. 1978 @ the Bronx River Center.
L-Brothers: Busy Bee Starsky, Kevie Kev, Master Rob AKA Robbie Rob, Grand Wizard Theodore, Mean Jean, DJ Cordio
Herculords: DJ Kool Herc, Coke La Rock, Clark Kent
Female MC: MC Smiley is also on this tape
rap around time 3:30
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1978, before Sugar Hill or King Tim,
Listen to the beginning of the song, that's the early MC style taken form toasting.
Grand Wizard Theodore. L Brothers all old school Hip Hop.
"The Herculoids never get on, on this tape.But much reference is made to the Herculoids by the L. Brothers in fact Kevie Kev or Busy Bee show absolutely no respect to The Herculoids. Saying often that they were no competition. Can you believe today a ticket for a show might cost 25 to 50 dollars. The night after this show at a place called Rock city on 169 and prospect the tickets cost $2 before 12midnite. Female M.C. Smiley even puts here mack down. J.D.L. is called Jerry Lewis at this time."
Where is the Pigmeat Markham dedication and appreciation?
On that note:
DJ KOOL HERC & COKE LA ROCK Celebrating 40 Years of Original Hip Hop Sounds at Cortona Park Summer
Moe Dee was a member of the Treacherous Three. The music is typical of a Hip Hop sound. As Grand Master Caz explained.
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Where is the Pigmeat Markham dedication and appreciation?
He was 11 years ahead of his time
I take it you don't understand the words consistence and influence.
Anyway:
FUNKY 4 + 1- FOUNDATION LESSON
Biography of The Funky 4+1. Based on interviews with the Funky 4 members and other Foundation era Mc's, Dj's and members of the Hip Hop community - conducted by JayQuan & Troy L. Smith. Narrated, produced and edited by JayQuan.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: If Dejaying predates funk then Dejaying is not Hip Hop it is just something that Hip Hop includes as part of it.
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Pigmeat Markham Here come da Judge actually sounds like rap, compare it to toasting
...and?
Influence is another story, Rapper's Delight by the Sugar Hill Gang, 11 year later is the start of the rap music genre
No, Rapper's Delight was and is the Dawn of "Hip-Hop"
rap doesn't start with toasting it's just something similar going on at the same time - start listening to some old toasting before you even get at me
Boy oh boy lol.... There is a reason why I asked where you are from lol... where are you from?
Although it has been written that La Rock comes from Jamaica, in reality his parents were from North Carolina.
There were many minds and souls behind the engineering of the Hip-Hop Genre, A good amount of them, were of course, ....Jamaican. Show me this direct influence from pigmeat on the contemporary hip hop genre then I'll start taking this seriously. As of right now, I have no clue what your passion is, nor your purpose for raising such a "debate" lol
Revenge Song / Enterprise Runaways soundtrack 1978
skip to time 2:40 for Enterprise
Runaways is a musical which was written, composed and directed by Elizabeth Swados, about the lives of children who run away from home and live on the city streets. The characters were taken from workshops conducted by Swados with real-life runaways in the late 1970s.
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Where is the Pigmeat Markham dedication and appreciation?
He was 11 years ahead of his time
I take it you don't understand the words consistence and influence.
stop talking stupid, the phrase "ahead of his/her time" means the style would not catch on because society wasn't ready to be influenced at that early time.
Also they probably didn't see the potential in 1968 because it was a comedian who made the rap, so they didn't take it seriously. Had I have been there I would have become a record producer, She Diddy. Hip Hop would have started in 1969
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Where is the Pigmeat Markham dedication and appreciation?
He was 11 years ahead of his time
I take it you don't understand the words consistence and influence.
stop talking stupid, the phrase "ahead of his/her time" means the style would not catch on because society wasn't ready to be influenced at that early time.
Also they probably didn't see the potential in 1968 because it was a comedian who made the rap, so they didn't take it seriously. Had I have been there I would have become a record producer, She Diddy
LOL The more you type the dumber it gets.
"Freak yo' yes yes yo' etc..." THAT IS Mcing.
They guys themselves are saying it. Toasting is the influence, MCing is the consistency which became RAP. Somehow you say no, you are not. I lioness tell you what you did. LOL
You do understand that Kool Herc is Jamaican? lol smh
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: LOL the more you type the dumber it it gets.
Freak yo' yes yes yo' etc... THAT IS Mcing.
They guys themselves are saying it Toasting is the influence MCing is the consistence which became RAP. Somehow you say no, you are not. I lioness tell you what you did. LOL
You do understand that Kool Herc is Jamaican? lol smh [/QB]
fine, put up a toasting youtube
I deal with evidence
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: LOL the more you type the dumber it it gets.
Freak yo' yes yes yo' etc... THAT IS Mcing.
They guys themselves are saying it Toasting is the influence MCing is the consistence which became RAP. Somehow you say no, you are not. I lioness tell you what you did. LOL
You do understand that Kool Herc is Jamaican? lol smh
fine, put up a toasting youtube
I deal with evidence
LOL I already did. Evidence of your ignorance is bliss.
If we have to approach his linguistically where do we start and where do we end? Root words, constants etc...
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Revenge Song / Enterprise Runaways soundtrack 1978
skip to time 2:40 for Enterprise
Runaways is a musical which was written, composed and directed by Elizabeth Swados, about the lives of children who run away from home and live on the city streets. The characters were taken from workshops conducted by Swados with real-life runaways in the late 1970s.
That link doesn't work.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Elmaestro:
Influence is another story, Rapper's Delight by the Sugar Hill Gang, 11 year later is the start of the rap music genre
No, Rapper's Delight was and is the Dawn of "Hip-Hop"
dawn = start of,
stop playin
The dawn of something that being came a worldwide phenomenon.
Anyway:
Sylvia Robinson: Mother of Hip Hop and the real "Cookie Lyon" #Empire
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: It does work I just checked it otherwise type the title in youtube
"From a broadway musical soundtrack released on vinyl in 1978, these kids talk about the 1977 power blackout in NYC which apparently had an effect on hip hop culture up in the bronx."
What the poster claims is not true. The Funky 4 + 1 used to rap in the mid 70's.
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