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Black history is explored in the U.S. during the month of February(October in Britain) but seems restricted mainly to the history of black personalities for the 300 years that most blacks have been in the U.S.--the ancestors of most blacks were transported to the U.S. circa 1730-1760.

The history blacks in Africa is almost universally ignored. The archaeology, cultures and civilization of blacks in Africa from 180,000 years ago, then from 5,000 years ago is hardly ever touched. In this context, the history of blacks in the Western hemisphere is less than 6%
of the 5,000 years of highlights of black history.

Contexts need to be changed.

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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
Black history is explored in the U.S. during the month of February(October in Britain) but seems restricted mainly to the history of black personalities for the 300 years that most blacks have been in the U.S.--the ancestors of most blacks were transported to the U.S. circa 1730-1760.

The history blacks in Africa is almost universally ignored. The archaeology, cultures and civilization of blacks in Africa from 180,000 years ago, then from 5,000 years ago is hardly ever touched. In this context, the history of blacks in the Western hemisphere is less than 6%
of the 5,000 years of highlights of black history.

Contexts need to be changed.

This has not always been the case. In the past the history of Black people worldwide was a focus of Black history month. now Black history month is commercialized and determined by establishment Blacks like Gates who concentrate on slavery and black inventors.

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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
Black history is explored in the U.S. during the month of February(October in Britain) but seems restricted mainly to the history of black personalities for the 300 years that most blacks have been in the U.S.--the ancestors of most blacks were transported to the U.S. circa 1730-1760.

The history blacks in Africa is almost universally ignored. The archaeology, cultures and civilization of blacks in Africa from 180,000 years ago, then from 5,000 years ago is hardly ever touched. In this context, the history of blacks in the Western hemisphere is less than 6%
of the 5,000 years of highlights of black history.

Contexts need to be changed.

Yes :


The Black History Month 2018 theme is “African Americans in Times of War,” marks the 100th anniversary of the end of World War I and honors the roles that black Americans have played in warfare, from the American Revolution to the present day.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqs8iVSxFAM

This new Black Panther movie has brought attention to Africa although not in a realistic way

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The history blacks in Africa is almost universally ignored.

If you were to recommend one book, what would it be?
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"The World and Africa" by W.E.B. Dubois. Very readable and written by an African American. Of course, there are others but this came to mind first.
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In historical context, this is the closest you’ll get!

Wakanda

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The Lower Omo Valley is located in South Nations, Nationalities and Peoples Regional State (SNNPRS) in Debub Omo Zone. It is 700 kms away from Addis Ababa in south-west direction. The site’s absolute location is 4°80` North and 35°97` East.

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^ Yes, this thread is off base. No convincing reference to Egypt has been shown to be intended by the director in this topic so far.


If you start talking about Egypt in doing so, silence is omission, silence on the fact that the movie makes much more reference to South African culture, not to mention The on-screen spoken language of the kingdom of Wakanda is iXhosa

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Black Panther premerie in Ghana (African American couple)


https://youtu.be/PvD6ZLMn3u0


Nigerian celebs catch Black Panther, fever at private screening.

https://youtu.be/7ThWhFxa9c8

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^ Yes, this thread is off base. No convincing reference to Egypt has been shown to be intended by the director in this topic so far.


If you start talking about Egypt in doing so, silence is omission, silence on the fact that the movie makes much more reference to South African culture, not to mention The on-screen spoken language of the kingdom of Wakanda is iXhosa

Several people from all over Africa have stated to have recognized parts of their native tong. So more is going on here.
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Dubois is arguably the most prominent African American scholar to date. Yet, how many universities have held conferences in his honor, this "black history month"?

Plus how many educated blacks know anything about him. He had his early spats with Garvey during DuBois's integration days. In this regard, one must add Garvey's "Philosophy and Opinions" as a good read for Black History month.

Another work by DuBois which has been quietly ignored in a post Civil Rights era by both black and white scholars has been DuBois's "The Conservation of Race"(1897). His argument was that blacks have a teleological destiny, so in this regard their race impetus must be maintained. The contemporary Zeitgeist has been just the opposite the theoretical goal--as displayed on U.S. TV--is to absorb acceptable AAs into the mainstream of America.

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Historical Trends
The idea of "Black History" in the U.S. and the rest of the Americas begins with the intervention of Spain, Portugal, Britain and France into the path of African history. It was almost like an amputation sequenced with a partial intellectual lobotomy.

Once in the new lands, the goal of the enslaved African was to gain freedom. This occurred in Brazil with Zumbi's war of liberation, followed by Haiti's revolution, and those were the main successes.

But in earlier times, the partial cultural lobotomy produced the spirited debates between the assimilationists such as Frederick Douglass and liberationists such as Delaney. Garvey produced Malcolm X while Douglass produced M.L. King. America preferred the latter. Little white children holding the hands of little black children was the meme. That move succeeded only partially. Hence the present slogan of "Black Lives Matter". Talk of "assimilation" versus "another path to self-realization to rectify dehumanization of the African via the Trans-Atlantic trade" is never broached. All eggs are in a single basket now. Hence the structural limitations of "Black History Month". The implicit idea here is that blacks--note the Eurocentrically inspired transformation from the subjectivity of "ethnic African" to the objectivity of "black"--only became human and entered the path of history in the Americas.

The puzzling intellectual question for "blacks" as humans in the path of history" is how deal with the present situation. In the U.S. blacks have looked at the Democratic Party as the path to salvation--yet there is the BLM--even after 300 years.

It takes 2 to tango. What roles then do Africa and its Diaspora have to play in this period of historical doldrums?

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African Americans are individuals and think in many different ways. There are those who are very advanced on this topic and Pan-African and there are those who do not care at all. The people here on EgyptSearch are advanced. Be happy with this group.
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The topic is "Black History Month" in the U.S. The implicit and very erroneous assumption is that blacks in the African Diaspora entered history only in the Americas and the U.S. specifically. The African American Museum in Washington D.C. reinforces that erroneous assumption.

The implicit assumption is that by imposing European names and the Christian religion on the blacks of the U.S. and the Americas, they were just brought into the stream of human history.

The roots of this go back to German philosopher Hegel's claim in his "Philosophy of History" that the path of human history was guided by Geist which did not influence human historical movement in Africa--except for its Northern part of Ancient Egypt.

Then later that idea was reinforced by British historian, Hugh Trevor Roper who argued that Africa had no human history. Black History Month in the U.S. merely reinforces that erroneous idea.

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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
Dubois is arguably the most prominent African American scholar to date. Yet, how many universities have held conferences in his honor, this "black history month"?

Plus how many educated blacks know anything about him. He had his early spats with Garvey during DuBois's integration days. In this regard, one must add Garvey's "Philosophy and Opinions" as a good read for Black History month.

Another work by DuBois which has been quietly ignored in a post Civil Rights era by both black and white scholars has been DuBois's "The Conservation of Race"(1897). His argument was that blacks have a teleological destiny, so in this regard their race impetus must be maintained. The contemporary Zeitgeist has been just the opposite the theoretical goal--as displayed on U.S. TV--is to absorb acceptable AAs into the mainstream of America.

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Traditionally DuBois work is part of most Middle and High school curricula where the students are majority Afro-American

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Okwu ID: "Are African Americans Crying for Help?" - Nigerians review Black Panther Movie pt.1

https://youtu.be/eHIJmRcQ2ns


Okwu ID: "Should Wakanda replace African history??" - Nigerians review Black Panther Movie pt. 2

https://youtu.be/ZC3l7fnxNjM


FROM AFRICAN BOOTY SCRATCHER TO #WAKANDAFOREVER! | Black Panther Movie Discussion/Review

https://youtu.be/mhVNGFVEYq0

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The whole of the African world is shamefully crying for help from its Euro-American overlords. The daily flight through the hot Sahara to reach the fervently believed white utopias of Europe. When African Presidents fall ill, they flee to Europe and America begging for white medical help. Recent case: Buhari of Nigeria. For the corrupt and "wealthy" of Africa, when their ladies fall pregnant, they dispatch them to the U.S. for anchor baby birth. Shameful. The fools prefer to educate their children in expensive Euro-American private schools and universities rather than sensibly rectify the situation at home. Dummies all. The neglectful and cruel ruling castes in Nigeria are stupidly committed to the imported and alienating religions of Islam and Christianity.

The sad thing about ignorance and stupidity is when their owners don't know it.

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