Iron Eyes Cody (born Espera Oscar de Corti, April 3, 1904 – January 4, 1999) was an American actor of Italian descent who portrayed Native Americans in Hollywood films,[2] famously as Chief Iron Eyes in Bob Hope's The Paleface (1948). He also played a Native American shedding a tear about pollution in one of the country's most well-known television public service announcements from the group Keep America Beautiful.[3] Living in Hollywood, he began to insist, even in his private life, that he was Native American, over time claiming membership in several different tribes. In 1996, Cody's half-sister said that he was of Italian ancestry, but he denied it.[3][4] After his death, it was revealed that he was of Sicilian parentage, and not Native American at all.
Cody began acting in the late 1920s. He worked in film and television until his death. Cody claimed his father was Cherokee and his mother Cree,[3] also naming several different tribes, and frequently changing his claimed place of birth. To those unfamiliar with Indigenous American or First Nations cultures and people, he gave the appearance of living as if he were Native American, fulfilling the stereotypical expectations by wearing his film wardrobe as daily clothing—including braided wig, fringed leathers and beaded moccasins—at least when photographers were visiting, and in other ways continuing to play the same Hollywood-scripted roles off-screen as well as on.
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There are so many Pretendians. Seems like Native American culture fascinates and at the same time many do not know so much about it. So it leads to all kind of romanticizing and stereotypes. And some non native people will use Native culture for their own purposes, many times with economic motifs. So they twist and steal and earn money in different ways, while gullible people feed into the Pretendian untruths.
Some Pretendians fall victims to their own myths and start to believe that they are real Native Americans.
Here in Europe there have been (and still are) a lot of "Hobby Indians" who spent their free time dressing up like stereotypical Native Americans, living in Tipis and calling themselves some kind of Native names. It was especially popular in Germany. I saw a TV program about these people and there they interviewed one of these Hobby Natives. He said that he once travelled to USA and met real Native Americans but got disappointed since they did not any longer live their ancestors life style.
Both Pretendians and hobby Natives have met criticism both in America and in Germany, for cultural appropriation and spreading stereotypes.
Wikipedia has an article about the German Hobby Natives and Native Americans in other kinds of popular culture.
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A famous example of an environmentalist who turned into a Pretendian was Grey Owl:
quote:Archibald Stansfeld Belaney (September 18, 1888 – April 13, 1938), commonly known as Grey Owl, was a popular writer, public speaker and conservationist. Born an Englishman, in the latter years of his life he passed as half-Indian, claiming he was the son of a Scottish man and an Apache woman. With books, articles and public appearances promoting wilderness conservation, he achieved fame in the 1930s. Shortly after his death in 1938, his real identity as the Englishman Archie Belaney was exposed.
quote:BC Investigation Says Buffy Sainte-Marie Has Falsely Claimed Her Native Identity The ‘Fifth Estate’ episode, which aired Friday, alleges that the singer-songwriter’s white adoptive parents were in fact her biological parents, among other explosive revelations.
quote:CBC newsmagazine The Fifth Estate has aired its Buffy Sainte-Marie exposé.
The hourlong documentary episode, presented by senior investigative reporter Geoff Leo, alleges that the singer-songwriter — considered the first Indigenous winner of an Academy Award — has been fraudulently posing as Native throughout her 60-year career.
While the specifics about Sainte-Marie’s background varied as they appeared in articles and other materials over the years — The Fifth Estate found news clippings referring to her as Algonquin, Mi’kmaq and Cree — eventually her accepted (and authorized) biography was that she was born in 1941 on Cree land in the Canadian province of Saskatchewan and removed from her birth family and adopted by a white American family, the Sainte-Maries, as part of a government policy known as the Sixties Scoop. Later, as a young adult, she reconnected with the Cree people and was adopted by descendants of Chief Piapot according to Cree ways.
quote:But The Fifth Estate unearthed Sainte-Marie’s purported birth certificate, which states that she was born in 1941 in Stoneham, Massachusetts, to Albert and Winifred Santamaria — her supposed adoptive parents, who are listed as white. Although a representative for Sainte-Marie told the program that adopted children in Massachusetts were commonly issued new birth certificates with their adoptive parents’ names, Leo traveled to Stoneham to verify Sainte-Marie’s documentation, which appears to have been filed at the time of her birth and not later.
“It doesn’t appear that she was adopted in any way, shape or form,” Stoneham town clerk Maria Sagarino told Leo.
Investigating Buffy Sainte-Marie’s claims to Indigenous ancestry - The Fifth Estate
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quote:#pretendians #peterboghossian #nativeamerican There is an epidemic of primarily white people—and white women in particular—who are pretending to be Native Americans for professional gain. Dubbed “Pretendians,” these individuals are predominantly active in academia and hold tenured faculty positions or even department chairs. To help make sense of this institutionally supported fraud, Peter Boghossian spoke with Jacqueline Keeler, a Native American author and journalist who’s an expert on the phenomena of Pretendians. Keeler names names and pulls no punches in this conversation. In light of Peter's experience at Portland State University (PSU), he was only mildly surprised to hear Keeler’s report that three of its leading Indigenous Nations faculty are Pretendians: Ted Van Alst, Grace Dillon, and Judy Bluehorse Skelton.
Everything about this subject of Pretendians could be a meta narrative about Egyptology, current DNA studies, World History etc
White people are the problem, they have to have themselves at the center of the story. Every last thing needs to be colonized including African history and DNA
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Iron Eyes Cody (born Espera Oscar de Corti, April 3, 1904 – January 4, 1999) was an American actor of Italian descent who portrayed Native Americans in Hollywood films,[2] famously as Chief Iron Eyes in Bob Hope's The Paleface (1948). He also played a Native American shedding a tear about pollution in one of the country's most well-known television public service announcements from the group Keep America Beautiful.[3] Living in Hollywood, he began to insist, even in his private life, that he was Native American, over time claiming membership in several different tribes. In 1996, Cody's half-sister said that he was of Italian ancestry, but he denied it.[3][4] After his death, it was revealed that he was of Sicilian parentage, and not Native American at all.
Cody began acting in the late 1920s. He worked in film and television until his death. Cody claimed his father was Cherokee and his mother Cree,[3] also naming several different tribes, and frequently changing his claimed place of birth. To those unfamiliar with Indigenous American or First Nations cultures and people, he gave the appearance of living as if he were Native American, fulfilling the stereotypical expectations by wearing his film wardrobe as daily clothing—including braided wig, fringed leathers and beaded moccasins—at least when photographers were visiting, and in other ways continuing to play the same Hollywood-scripted roles off-screen as well as on.
He appeared in more than 200 films,
Lioness, you pretending to be a black woman online for over 15 years is nothing compared to this pretendian list on twitter..
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Wikipedia has also an article about Pretendians. It also names some well known pretendians through the ages
quote:Pretendian (portmanteau of pretend and Indian) is a pejorative colloquialism used to call out a person who has falsely claimed Indigenous identity by professing to be a citizen of a Native American or Indigenous Canadian tribal nation, or to be descended from Native American or Indigenous Canadian ancestors. As a practice, being a pretendian is considered an extreme form of cultural appropriation, especially if that individual then asserts that they can represent, and speak for, communities from which they do not originate. It is sometimes also referred to as a form of fraud, ethnic fraud or race shifting.
Early false claims to Indigenous identity, often called "playing Indian", go back at least as far as the Boston Tea Party. There was a rise in pretendians after the 1960s for a number of reasons, such as the reestablishment of tribal sovereignty following the era of Indian termination policy, the media coverage of the Occupation of Alcatraz and the Wounded Knee Occupation, and the formation of Native American studies as a distinct form of area studies which led to the establishment of publishing programs and university departments specifically for or about Native American culture. At the same time, hippie and New Age subcultures marketed Native cultures as accessible, spiritual, and as a form of resistance to mainstream culture, leading to the rise of the plastic shaman or "culture vulture." By 1990, many years of pushback by Native Americans against pretendians resulted in the successful passage of the Indian Arts and Crafts Act of 1990 (IACA) – a truth-in-advertising law which prohibits misrepresentation in marketing of American Indian or Alaska Native arts and crafts products within the United States.
While Indigenous communities have always self-policed and spread word of frauds, mainstream media and arts communities were often unaware, or did not act upon this information, until more recent decades. Since the 1990s and 2000s, a number of controversies regarding ethnic fraud have come to light and received coverage in mainstream media, leading to a broader awareness of pretendians in the world at large.
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Also Sacheen Littlefeather has been accused (after her death) to be a pretendian. Littlefeather got famous when she attended the 45th Academy Awards in 1973 on behalf of actor Marlon Brando who refused to accept his prize.
quote:Littlefeather represented Marlon Brando at the 45th Academy Awards (better known as the Oscars) in 1973, where she – on Brando's behalf – declined the Best Actor award that he won for his performance in The Godfather. The favorite to win, Brando boycotted the ceremony as a protest against Hollywood's portrayal of Native Americans and to draw attention to the standoff at Wounded Knee. During her speech, the audience's response to Brando's boycotting was divided between booing and applause.
quote:Originally posted by Archeopteryx: Also Sacheen Littlefeather has been accused (after her death) to be a pretendian. Littlefeather got famous when she attended the 45th Academy Awards in 1973 on behalf of actor Marlon Brando who refused to accept his prize.
quote:Littlefeather represented Marlon Brando at the 45th Academy Awards (better known as the Oscars) in 1973, where she – on Brando's behalf – declined the Best Actor award that he won for his performance in The Godfather. The favorite to win, Brando boycotted the ceremony as a protest against Hollywood's portrayal of Native Americans and to draw attention to the standoff at Wounded Knee. During her speech, the audience's response to Brando's boycotting was divided between booing and applause.
Littlefeather at the 45th Academy Awards in 1973, which she attended on behalf of Marlon Brando
She is a pretendian because she is half Mexican and not related to the Apache or the Yaqui
However she more than likely has some Native ancestry through her father but it's not Apache or Yaqui... so a pretendian.
What I found interesting is how many Asians are pretendians. However there were two black pretendians on that list both had Caribbean ancestry.
but nothing compared to the sheer amount of white folks pretending to be native american for profit
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Everything about this subject of Pretendians could be a meta narrative about Egyptology, current DNA studies, World History etc
White people are the problem, they have to have themselves at the center of the story. Every last thing needs to be colonized including African history and DNA
you are a racist, clearly
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Everything about this subject of Pretendians could be a meta narrative about Egyptology, current DNA studies, World History etc
White people are the problem, they have to have themselves at the center of the story. Every last thing needs to be colonized including African history and DNA
you are a racist, clearly
You know I can't be racist, I am a black american woman with some European and a little Indigenous blood myself... and yes I have the receipts called a DNA test. But as a black woman, I hold no power to be racist in this country or anywhere else. I can be prejudice. But, if I am prejudice against some white people it's because of their consistent behavior to steel, land, people, identity etc. And for those who don't do the actual theft or murder they still benefit from the other crimes. This is white privilege
quote:Racism is the process by which systems and policies, actions and attitudes create inequitable opportunities and outcomes for people based on race. Racism is more than just prejudice in thought or action. It occurs when this prejudice – whether individual or institutional – is accompanied by the power to discriminate against, oppress or limit the rights of others.
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Yeah I missed it because mostly I ignore you. However, see how you did not go down the RIGHT rabbit hole on the subject of PRETENDIANS????? How did you miss it. Its utterly fascinating.
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quote:Originally posted by Yatunde Lisa Bey: Yeah I missed it because mostly I ignore you. However, see how you did not go down the RIGHT rabbit hole on the subject of PRETENDIANS????? How did you miss it. Its utterly fascinating.
I didn't miss anything. This thread is about Iron Eyes Cody.
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You know I can't be racist, I am a black american woman with some European and a little Indigenous blood myself... and yes I have the receipts called a DNA test. But as a black woman, I hold no power to be racist in this country or anywhere else. I can be prejudice.
The original definition of racism is that someone disregards or discriminates against others because of skin color or ethnicity. Originally, the concept had nothing to do with power. So by such a definition anyone can be a racist, regardless of skin color or ethnicity.
quote:As a concept, racism means thinking that a supposed group of people is inferior to other groups of people e.g. because of their ethnic background, skin colour, nationality, culture, mother tongue or religion.
Racism can manifest in aggressive behaviour against another group:
quote:Aggressions can include e.g. shouting on the streets, name-calling, telling racist jokes or inciting prejudice on social media. Racism can also manifest itself as physical violence.
That form of racism can be executed by anyone independent of skin color or ethnicity.
Systemic or institutional racism on the other side depends on who has the power, and at least in USA it is mostly white people. But theoretically Black people can also create racist systems if they got the power in a certain country.
To say that Black people can not be racist is to infantilize them and make them not responsible for their own actions. That is in itself an act of racism.
quote:“We whites created slavery, Jim Crow segregation and contemporary racial discrimination over 400-plus years now,” Feagin said. “Whites are the main racial villains in this story and have most of the political and social power to change that racial discrimination and inequality now. We cannot have a truly free and democratic society, with ‘liberty and justice for all’ until we do that.”
Distinguished Professor of Sociology Joe Feagin
I am actually now convinced some don't actually read the things they are posting for evidence. About the link.. Sure, black people can be racist, too here is the actual quote from Ibrahim Kendi... what he is talking about here is black anti black racism and blacks who enjoin power systems to actually be anti black. Like Clarence Thomas or the Afro Caribbean Prentendians for example.
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Well, the modern myth that Black people (or any people) can not be racists is maybe better to discuss in a thread of its own.
Back to the topic of Pretendians:
Even here in Fennoscandia we had a famous case of pretendian, with a French Canadian person who called himselef "Man" but whose real name probably was Pierre Doris Maltais and who claimed to be from the Native Mi'kmaq people in Canada.
He started a kind of sect and set up a camp with tipis in the forests of Northern Sweden. Later he and his followers moved to Finland. At the camp there was even children. The life in the sect was rather hard in the winter and one child died. Other weird occurrences also took place around the sect, among other a murder case were a young man killed two other at a hotel room, allegedly under influence from the sect leader "Man".
The police started to investigate the sect and then "Man" and his closest followers ran away to Italy. After that he fled to the Azores and later to Nicaragua where he probably died.
It seems that "Man" probably had met Native people when he was young in Canada and they made such impression on him that he wanted to forward their wisdom and obviously earn some money and get some power over other people at the same time.
Both Swedish and Finnish radio have later made programs where they told the story of the sect.
I have heard the Swedish program. They mentioned more details from the time in Sweden than what is mentioned in the Wiki page about the sect.
The sect leader and alleged "medicine man" "Man" in a forest outside the Swedish town Sollefteå in 1991
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There has been other occasions with fake tribes and cults who claimed some form of indigenous ancestry or heritage. Both among white and black people. One such group is the Washitaw Nation, an African American group who claim that they are a sovereign state of Native Americans. The group was once led by the late Empress Verdiacee Tiari Washitaw Turner Goston El-Bey.
quote:The Washitaw Nation (Washitaw de Dugdahmoundyah) is an African-American group associated with the Moorish Science Temple of America who claim to be a sovereign state of Native Americans within the boundaries of the United States of America. Their name is appropriated from that of the Ouachita tribe, who are also eponymous of the Washita River and of Washita, Oklahoma. The group is part of the sovereign citizen movement, whose members generally believe that they are not subject to any statutes or proceedings at the federal, state, or municipal levels.
quote:Various United States courts have held that the Washitaw Nation is fictional and that it is not recognized as a sovereign nation.
Contrary to some other fake tribes they do not necessarily identify as Native Americans ("Indians) but as a group that was in America before the Native Americans.
quote:According to Empress Verdiacee Tiari Tunica (Turner) Washitaw (Washington) Goston El-Bey, “The Washitaw are the original inhabitants of what is now named the North, Central and South Americas. Therefore, the Washitaw are NOT Indians! We do NOT accept the names, African-American, Colored or Indian. “We the people” of North America are predominantly Washitaw, the Ancient Mound builders (up to 85%). We were here thousands of years before the amalgamated so-called Indian.
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The old Hollywood trend of casting White actors to play Native characters (and really any POC characters, sometimes even Black characters if they were willing to put on Blackface) has probably contributed to this Pretendian phenomenon. A lot of White people watching those movies probably thought that any White person with dark hair could pass themselves off as Native. It's not even a completely dead trend yet, as we saw with Johnny Depp playing Tonto in the Lone Ranger movie and Taylor Lautner playing a Quileute boy in the Twilight movies.
On the other hand, if you look at old photos of actual Native American people (as well as many Native people alive today, of course), you can clearly detect their Northeast Asian roots in their facial features. Many even have the epicanthic eye fold we think of as the trademark Asian trait. They don't look simply like Europeans with black hair dye.
Grey Owl is a 1999 biopic directed by Richard Attenborough and starring Pierce Brosnan in the role of real-life British schoolboy turned Native American trapper "Grey Owl", Archibald Belaney (1888–1938), and Annie Galipeau as his wife Anahareo, with brief appearances by Graham Greene and others. The screenplay was written by William Nicholson. The film was released on 10 September 1999 in Spain and 15 February 2000 in US. It was the last film made by Largo Entertainment before it went defunct in 1999.
Plot Archibald Belaney (Brosnan) from Britain grows up fascinated with Native American culture—so much so that in the early 1900s he leaves the United Kingdom for Canada, where he reinvents himself as trapper Archie Grey Owl and pretends to be a First Nations native. Eventually, Belaney becomes an environmentalist after renouncing trapping and hunting.
The film opened 1 October 1999 on 70 screens in Canada.[4][1]
The film premiered on video in the United States on 15 February 2000. It eventually opened on 3 November 2000 in the United Kingdom.[5]
Critical reception The film was met with negative reviews. It has a 17% approval rating on review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes based on 12 reviews, with an average rating of 4.6/10.[6] William Gallagher of the BBC said, "if you like cuddly animals or you fancy Pierce Brosnan, you're in luck".
Box office Grey Owl flopped at the box office upon its limited release grossing $162,360 in its opening weekend in Canada and a total of $632,617 against its $30 million budget.
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Rogers was born on his parents' Dog Iron Ranch in the Cherokee Nation of Indian Territory, near present-day Oologah, Oklahoma, now in Rogers County, named in honor of his father, Clement V. Rogers. His father Clement Vann Rogers born in 1839 was an American politician and judge in Indian Territory. Clem Rogers' parents were both mixed-blood Cherokees who moved to Indian Territory in 1832, several years before the Trail of Tears. Before the American Civil War, Clem allied with the "Treaty Party", a Cherokee faction that supported signing the Treaty of New Echota.
The house in which Will Rogers was born had been built in 1875 and was known as the "White House on the Verdigris River". His parents, Clement and Mary America Schrimsher (1838–1890), were both mixed-race with Cherokee ancestry, and considered themselves Cherokee. Rogers quipped that his ancestors did not come over on the Mayflower, but they "met the boat". His mother was one quarter-Cherokee and born into the Paint Clan
Occupation: Actor, vaudevillian, columnist, humorist, radio personality Honorary Mayor of Beverly Hills In office 1926–1926 Personal details Born: William Penn Adair Rogers November 4, 1879 Oologah, Indian Territory Died August 15, 1935 (aged 55) Point Barrow, Alaska Territory, U.S. Cause of death Airplane crash
William Penn Adair Rogers (November 4, 1879 – August 15, 1935) was an American vaudeville performer, actor, and humorous social commentator. He was born as a citizen of the Cherokee Nation, in the Indian Territory (now part of Oklahoma), and is known as "Oklahoma's Favorite Son".[2] As an entertainer and humorist, he traveled around the world three times, made 71 films (50 silent films and 21 "talkies"), and wrote more than 4,000 nationally syndicated newspaper columns.[4] By the mid-1930s, Rogers was hugely popular in the United States for his leading political wit and was the highest paid of Hollywood film stars. He died in 1935 with aviator Wiley Post when their small airplane crashed in northern Alaska.[5]
Rogers began his career as a performer on vaudeville. His rope act led to success in the Ziegfeld Follies, which in turn led to the first of his many movie contracts. His 1920s syndicated newspaper column and his radio appearances increased his visibility and popularity. Rogers crusaded for aviation expansion and provided Americans with first-hand accounts of his world travels. His earthy anecdotes and folksy style allowed him to poke fun at gangsters, prohibition, politicians, government programs, and a host of other controversial topics in a way that found general acclaim from a national audience with no one offended.[6] His aphorisms, couched in humorous terms, were widely quoted, for example, "I am not a member of an organized political party. I am a Democrat."
Will Rogers caricature on a print advertisement for the film Down to Earth, from The Film Daily, 1932 One of Rogers's most famous sayings was "I never met a man I didn't like"
I am not sure if he ever played a traditional Indians. Many of these movies do not look like they are of that type
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: Lioness, you just now found this (OT) out?? LOL @ "pretendians".
I might have heard that "crying Indian" Cody was Italian years ago ago but if I did forgot about it
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Jacob Anthony Angeli Chansley (born 1988), also known as the QAnon Shaman, Q Shaman, and Yellowstone Wolf
quote:In an event invitation on the Starseed Academy's now-deleted Facebook page, Chansley described himself as a "self-initiated shaman, energetic healer, ordained minister, public speaker, and published author." He says that he has "walked the Shamanic path" for the past 10 years, a process that required him to undergo "90 hours of tattooing," which resulted in the assortment of Norse symbols that cover his arms and chest. (Anyone who attended that event, called the "Red Pill Party," two summers ago heard a wide-ranging discussion about astrology, the Law of Attraction, the Fibonacci sequence, "Fluoride and the Pineal Gland," the Central Banking System, and, yes, that series of sci-fi flicks where Keanu Reeves says 'whoa' a lot.)
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Jake Chansley doesn't qualify as a pretendian. He does not claim to be Native American. He is a self-stylized "shaman" but might be called a "cultural appropriator" He is also known for his norse tattoos:
quote: So in order to beat this evil occultic force you need a light occultic force you need an occultic force that is of the side of God of love on like almost like on the side of the Angels OK as opposed to the demons all right and so as a shaman I am like a multi-dimensional or hyper-dimensional being okay I am able to perceive multiple different frequencies of light beyond my five senses and it allows me to see into these other higher dimensions that these entities these pedophiles these rapists these murderers these really high up people that they almost like hide in the shadows in nobody can see that because the third eye ain't open okay and that's where things like fluoride and stuff like that comes in so the horns the horns are hey man you mess with the Buffalo you get the horns bro and if you ever tried messing with the Buffalo that doesn't work out too well for many people this right here this is coyote skin according to the Navajo the coyote is like the trickster almost like almost like a benevolent force so I'm wearing the skin of the trickster I got two tails here okay so the trickster messed with the bull got the horns okay and the face paint is representative of the Native American tradition of like donning on warpaint of some sort only this is only this is a war that is of like a spiritual nature okay so because it's a war of a spiritual nature you need symbolism okay in the symbolism here for me is you got the blood on the sign the bullet holes Q sent me this shows the the the secret war in the behind the scene. Hey if you don’t know who Q is Q is the highest levels of the military in the intelligence community disseminating above top secret information to pay attention to the republic so we can take our country back from globalists and communists and satanists.
Chansley, 35, pleaded guilty in September 2021 to one felony count of obstruction of an official proceeding and was sentenced to 41 months in prison and served about 27 months before being transferred to a Phoenix halfway house in March 2023, released May 25, 2023
In November 2023, he filed a candidate statement of interest to run as a Libertarian in the 2024 election for Arizona's 8th congressional district
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he claimed to be native american last night on a public forum called twitter spaces
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^ look at the tweet... go to x open and search Chris Evans account you will find the tweet.
BASIC
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^^ this is a second hand claim: "He claimed among other things that he’s Native American"
Maybe, unless that is his interpretation of what he said. So in order for that to be credible it needs the primary source with full sentence quote
see if you can post the direct link, there's only a short clip there not pertaining
No one should consider this credible without the primary source. "chris evans said so" is not good enough I looked for the full interview, I can't find it Just post the URL (if the interview even exists anymore) and then we might show and prove Chansey to be a pretendian. I didn't see any other source where he claims to be
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