Remember the women have been asked the same question. Now it's your turn.

Hope to see some replies.

Get up stand up stand up for your rights.

Salam,
Brian

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Originally posted by Monica:

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Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac:
Egyptian girls:
-Materialism.
-Forst-queenism.
-haughtiness.
-hayafaa.
-Talking hypersonic and squeaky.
-Using dala3 to get away with anything.
-Using tears to get away with anything.
-Saying "enta el-ragel" "you're the man" when it's time to do something, and screaming about equality when it's time to get something.
-All of them had a pasha grandpa.

Western women:
Don't have experience.

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it is an interesting list. Could you please translate for me

dala3 and a pasha grandpa

Thanks

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Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac:
mmm dala3 is uhhh dala3, like using discrete sexuality or something, acting cute. Don't know I suck in translation.

Pasha is just Pasha, .

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Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac:
Egyptian girls:
-Materialism.
-Forst-queenism.
-haughtiness.
-hayafaa.
-Talking hypersonic and squeaky.
-Using dala3 to get away with anything.
-Using tears to get away with anything.
-Saying "enta el-ragel" "you're the man" when it's time to do something, and screaming about equality when it's time to get something.
-All of them had a pasha grandpa.

Western women:
Don't have experience.

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kimo,it's a flawless list about the egyptian girls,u got it right:-),

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Originally posted by Monica:
dala3: flirtatious Or the act of 'spoiling' someone with affection or gifts
Pasha: extinct Ottoman honourary title, like lord or something /man that got an honorary title due to his fortune and until the 1950's
The title was banned after the 1953 Revolution, when King Farouk was detracted and thrown out ~ and Egypt became The United Arab Republic

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Little correction:
Revolution: July 23/1952

Would you guys date/marry a woman who (no matter how much you would like to deny it) is more intelligent than you are? Why and why not?

Would you feel threatened? Why yes or why not?

Realizing and recognizing the fact of a woman's superior intelligence at least to yourself, would you opt for a friendship and choose a more "equal" partner instead?

Is too much female inteligence relative to your own a turn off or on? Why yes or why not?

Note: intelligence here can be defined as a) general IQ and academic ability; b) street smarts/life intelligence/life wisdom translated into making good decisions and choices in life; c) emotional intelligence. a) b) c) may or may not be correlated with each other. It is your pick, but it would be interesting to see your answers, gentlemen, using all three definitions

P.S. It would be also interesting to see women's experiences and views on the same issues.

KAT

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Western women:
Don't have experience.

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Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac:
Western women:
Don't have experience.

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What experience are we lacking exactly?

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Originally posted by brian04:
One question What turns you off about a woman?

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Farting

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Originally posted by Undead:
Katrina, I would not be threatened at all. I am confident in my own ability and do not need to be the best around. When it comes to A and B, I haven't really ever felt challenged. On C, I don't have the same kind of "emotional" intellect that most people do when concerning romantic relationships, so I totally expect a woman to be better in that respect than I am.

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Undead, it is an excellent answer. Never felt challenged? wow. You must be a genius. If so, no worries about being "hideous" hehehe. but again you do not have to win all the times...hmmmm. ok

You must be one of those who do have not only confidence of his own abilities but also acceptance and expectation of the same from the opposite gender. This is great.

So then the question to you and others who share your opinion is on the flip side…How about female lack of confidence, much lower mental ability than yours.. is this a turn off?

I guess I did not specify, but I meant more general emotional intelligence, coping with life wisely, calmly, adversaries fo a the day, remain calm and cheerful even in very tough situations. Also, oftentimes, the one who posses this quality wins both in the short and long run, not necesarially the best person but the smartest emotionally. If to term it it would be "tough skin".

You mentioned "emotional intelligence" in a romantic relationship. how do you undersand it? Not sure if it is clear

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Originally posted by Lori:
What experience are we lacking exactly?

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Lori, I think you are misunderstanding the statement. It is taken out of the original context and intent.

kimo_the_maniac created a list of his dislikes about Egyptian women and said he could not comment on women from other places since he did not have experience dealing with them.

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Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac:
Egyptian girls:
-Materialism.
-Forst-queenism.
-haughtiness.
-hayafaa.
-Talking hypersonic and squeaky.
-Using dala3 to get away with anything.
-Using tears to get away with anything.
-Saying "enta el-ragel" "you're the man" when it's time to do something, and screaming about equality when it's time to get something.
-All of them had a pasha grandpa.

Western women:
Don't have experience.

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Cheers

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Originally posted by Undead:
When you said emotional intelligence, I thought you meant picking up on emotional subtleties regarding relating with the opposite gender.
In my opinion, handling lifes difficulties is more of a rational thing than an emotional one. At least, that is how it works for me.

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ok, thanks. I would think women may be better at figuring out emotional subtlties in any relationship.

Well, emotional intelligence is a combination of both rationality and control over emotions. Can you always stay unnerved and follow the logical path? Also, can you always remain 100% rational when making decisions? People often use unscientific herestics and rules of thumb (both otentimes irrational in nature and based on emotional interpretations of facts of reality) to arrive at many business, political, personal decisions. When people claim they do not, well, perhaps they are a bit overconfident What do you think?

And who can blame them.

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Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac:
Lori Katrina got it right **I** am the one lacking experience. Although your post brings up one turn off about western women:
-They are defensive and a tad paranoid.

Mooly, of course I am not generalising, there are perfect Egyptian girls, I just hope I can find one soon.

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Kimo and Mooly, I guess we are all individuals with our own dignities and faults, there are no flawless people anywhere, whether we are westerners or Egyptians. I prefer to think of people this way. Kimo, also defensive nature is found across all genders and nationalities. You made a generalization on Lori's statement, but both an Egyptian woman and a western woman were defensive So really it is a matter of individualism and the way we present our ideas to people. often times the way we say things cause adverse defensive behaviour on the receiving end. Sometimes, people misinterpret as Lori did. Don't you think?

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Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac:
Molly hi mon, how was Egypt?
In answer to your answer to my answer:
"I can blame them when I have to add clarification after clarification!"
And Katrina, of course we're all individuals this thread is just silly, that's just the nature of stereotypes silly with a dash of truth in them.

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true! but come on, Kimo, it is cool to find what and how guys think on all these issues.

by the way, you have good info on Egypt on your website. Thanks

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Originally posted by katrina:
Kimo and Mooly, I guess we are all individuals with our own dignities and faults, there are no flawless people anywhere, whether we are westerners or Egyptians. I prefer to think of people this way. Kimo, also defensive nature is found across all genders and nationalities. You made a generalization on Lori's statement, but both an Egyptian woman and a western woman were defensive So really it is a matter of individualism and the way we present our ideas to people. often times the way we say things cause adverse defensive behaviour on the receiving end. Sometimes, people misinterpret as Lori did. Don't you think?

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Katrina I totally agree with you , in addition I would like to say that a lot of these discriptions could go for men as well as women.

Cheers

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Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac:
Molly hi mon, how was Egypt?
In answer to your answer to my answer:
"I can blame them when I have to add clarification after clarification!"
And Katrina, of course we're all individuals this thread is just silly, that's just the nature of stereotypes silly with a dash of truth in them.

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Mon, are you refereing to me, how was Egypt? do you know me? how did you know I was in Egypt ? only my Uncle calls me Mon, I am woundering......

Cheers

Cheers

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Originally posted by katrina:
A question to ES guys

Would you guys date/marry a woman who (no matter how much you would like to deny it) is more intelligent than you are? Why and why not?

Would you feel threatened? Why yes or why not?

Realizing and recognizing the fact of a woman's superior intelligence at least to yourself, would you opt for a friendship and choose a more "equal" partner instead?

Is too much female inteligence relative to your own a turn off or on? Why yes or why not?

Note: intelligence here can be defined as a) general IQ and academic ability; b) street smarts/life intelligence/life wisdom translated into making good decisions and choices in life; c) emotional intelligence. a) b) c) may or may not be correlated with each other. It is your pick, but it would be interesting to see your answers, gentlemen, using all three definitions

P.S. It would be also interesting to see women's experiences and views on the same issues.

KAT

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Katrina I totally agree with you , in addition I would like to say that a lot of these discriptions could go for men as well as women.

Cheers

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Mooly, absolutely, as well as kimo's list is applicable to certain women from all over the world! except for maybe 'the pasha grandpa" concept, but again there are probably cultural equivalents of some sort. Mooly, I'd like to mention that I really enjoy your posts on other threads. Good job!

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Originally posted by newman575:
oh I'll say my opinion andI don't know exactly if you'll agree with me guys or not but I think woman is the most important thing in mans' life, she can push himup or pull him down. and I think in general most of practical women are more intelligent than men but it's true..
so I really prefer to marry a so intelligent woman andIdon't careif she's more intelligent the me or not but she must be.. she must has her own dreams about her future (I mean practical life), and I'll not mind about her friendships and relations cause I'll trust her so much and I wish her to act by the same way so how can I ask her to do something I don't do it with her in return.
by the way I wish to notify guys that when woman looks so stubid in her actions with you don't be proud of your intelligent she acts by this way to make you happy and then she can ask you to do anything she wants
All females are the greatest things in our life except stubid, silly, ugly presonality and dependent one..
it's my own opinion..

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Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac:
Mooly, there is no mystery here I was talking to Moll not you! Weird that everything clicked this way.
Mosh asdy.

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It is true how wierd,

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Originally posted by katrina:
Mooly, absolutely, as well as kimo's list is applicable to certain women from all over the world! except for maybe 'the pasha grandpa" concept, but again there are probably cultural equivalents of some sort. Mooly, I'd like to mention that I really enjoy your posts on other threads. Good job!

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Thanks Katrina, this is encouraging, at least one person thinks I am not attacking him/her

Cheers

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Originally posted by katrina:
Lori, I think you are misunderstanding the statement. It is taken out of the original context and intent.

kimo_the_maniac created a list of his dislikes about Egyptian women and said he could not comment on women from other places since he did not have experience dealing with them.

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katrina it seems you like to hunt down my messages and poke holes in them.

The misinterpretation was quite easy to make because of the way he worded it. And I did not feel "defensive and a tad paranoic" at all. I was merely curious what he was talking about.

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Originally posted by Lori:
What experience are we lacking exactly?

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Originally posted by Mooly El Din:
Thanks Katrina, this is encouraging, at least one person thinks I am not attacking him/her

Cheers

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Mooly, oh, no, if people read and think, no, not at all In fact, you are quite an intelligent woman. not to hajack space from the topic at hand, if you would like to ever talk off ES, my email is katrina_52500@yahoo.com. Cheers, Mooly! You are cool

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Originally posted by katrina:
Mooly, oh, no, if people read and think, no, not at all In fact, you are quite an intelligent woman. not to hajack space from the topic at hand, if you would like to ever talk off ES, my email is katrina_52500@yahoo.com. Cheers, Mooly! You are cool

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Thanks for the nice words, sure we like to be in contact, but you have to patient with me, as the coming weeks I will be out of reach

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Originally posted by Mooly El Din:

Thanks for the nice words, sure we like to be in contact, but you have to patient with me, as the coming weeks I will be out of reach

Cheers

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no problem!

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Originally posted by Lukoshko:
I thought it was a topic for GUYS. But here are more girls' replies rather then guys'.

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Lukoshko, start asking guys questions, maybe we will get more out of them