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Take it seriously, please. I'm scared.
It's not the first time in my life when I feel that my computer is controled and checked - whatever we call it - by someone else.
Could you tell me ( if u can't - could u ask your friends, husbands, boyfriends, girlfriends - whoever) if it is possible?
And how it is possible?
Could you explain that to me?
I should have get used to it but I can't.Thanks. Am scared. Really.

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In your case, It is Jinn, I guess.

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Jinn?
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What is your computer doing that worries you?

Do you have an anti-virus/spyware program?

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Yes, I have, Snoozin
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What is it doing?
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I was joking, but what you describe here is called Hacking and I recommand Sonomod as the PRIME SUSPECT.

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Is there anybody who would have a reason or motive to check your computer?
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Like in the past. Now I am working with songs for my students and am creating lessons for them with music cause I love it. I downloaded lyrics. They were original when I did it. I took a shower. When I got back, they've changed.
Is it possible? Am really scared.

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quote:
Originally posted by minry80:
Is there anybody who would have a reason or motive to check your computer?

Yes. I have no mystery in my comp., but......
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Snoozin, it is changing what I have downloaded.
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quote:
Originally posted by mooneal:
quote:
Originally posted by minry80:
Is there anybody who would have a reason or motive to check your computer?

Yes. I have no mystery in my comp., but......
but ..... Sonomod loves doing that for th fun of it and maybe she can find something to fuckk with you using it on the forum.
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Thank u, Corv, this time, u're really cheering me up.
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But still, could u explain me how does it work?
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quote:
Originally posted by mooneal:
Snoozin, it is changing what I have downloaded.

I don't know Mooneal, but I've gotten spyware on my machine from lyrics sites. [Frown] I don't trust them at all.

I'd run a virus scan just to be sure....

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This person has a great laugh now, I suppose.
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quote:
Originally posted by mooneal:
Thank u, Corv, this time, u're really cheering me up.

Thanks, but I have a previous experience.
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Please, just explain me how the following lyrics from 1980:
Like the sand can seep right through your fingers so can all your days
As those days go by you'll have me there to help you find the way.
The way I feel with you I know it's got to last forever.

And when the rain begins to fall
You`ll ride my rainbow in the sky
And I will catch you if you fall
You'll never have to ask me why.
And when the rain begins to fall
I'll be the sunshine in your life
You know that we can have it all
And everything will be allright.

Time goes by so fast you've got to have a dream
To just hold on.
All my dreams of love began with the reality of you.
You and I believe
That all our dreams will last forever.

And when the rain ...

Though the sun may hide
We still can see
The light that shines for you and me
We'll be together all that we can be.

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Changed into those ones:

And when the rain ...
Contemplating away to give Thanx'
to the one person that was there to hold my hand.
That's the one person who was there, even when she wasn't there.
Never cared and kept focused and raised a strong BEAR.
By herself and three kids in a strange country.
Educate yourself and the kids with short money
wise words to gide you when your outdoors
and the respect to get when you're indoors.
>From better to worse, from worse to terrible.
For what you've achived - yeah, it's incredible,
and you tought me how to stay a black man,
learnd how to say sorry and how to say thanx.
I guess, there's no other way for me to express,
but I'm sure that you know, so for this - God bless!
I wish for my MAMA to live forever
and for this I'll be there in any kind of weather.

And when the rain begins to fall
You ride my rainbow in the sky
And I will catch you if you fall
You never have to ask me why...
When the rain starts poring down from up above
- may every drop be a symbol of my love,
cause I'm a grown man, now, let me state,
cause, if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be here today.
On various occasions you bailed me out, swear me out,
and say: Hey, Boy, shut your mouth!
Now, I'm my own man, with my own ways,
love for my peeps, oh Lord, I prays.
For you to live forever and be amazed,
how your boy could chase all the rainy days away.
Bring the sunshine and joy every day
Yeah, that's your boy, yeah, that's the BEAR! Oh, don't you know what we could have, Baby ?
You know that we, we should be together - Forever And when the rain begins to fall
You ride my rainbow in the sky
And I will catch you if you fall
You'll never have to ask me why
And when the rain begins to fall
I'll be the sunshine in your life
I'll be your sunshine
You know that we could have it all
And everything will be alright I will be your rain - You'll be my sunshine

Who is that? How is that possible? Am so scared.

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I see, it will turn into another ladies boring stuff [Roll Eyes]
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I believe that if it could have been my friend he/she would have send me a straighforward message, not something like that and make me scared.
How does it all work?

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quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
I see, it will turn into another ladies boring stuff [Roll Eyes]

No, it will not.
How is it possible to control ur PC. Tell me, Corv.

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ana 3aref ufffffffffffff

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Congratulations, you've just got yourself a brand new Trojan! [Big Grin]

First, you must disconnect your computer from the network...

Second, reboot and run your anti-virus software...

Third, you should have a software firewall that puts your computer in stealth mode (it's not visible from outside, it's not responding to incoming requests)...

Fourth, your software firewall should be configured to ask for your permission each time a program on your computer attempts to connects to the internet (outgoing connections)...

Fifth, with patience and a little skill, you will find the Trojan (a program that tries to connect to a location you are not aware of)...

Example: assuming that you are browsing ES, an attempt to connect to ES is valid and it should be allowed. If you see an attempt to connect to an address that is unknown to you, it may be a sign of a Trojan trying to "call home".

Additionally, your operating system should be fully patched, your firewall, anti-virus and anti-spyware should be updated and you should not run from an administrator account.

Good luck, girl! [Smile]

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Change your IP.
Then don't come here cause your new one will be captured by Sonomod again.

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Thank u, Sadeegy for reasonable answer. I will try.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sadeeqy:
you should not run from an administrator account.

What do you mean by this part, Sadeeqy? Why is this bad? I'm not familiar with all of this stuff.... [Confused]
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quote:
Originally posted by mooneal:
Thank u, Sadeegy for reasonable answer. I will try.

Go for it! And kick the bastard out! [Big Grin]
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What is the female name of bastard ?

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I don't know who is doing it. Anyway, my real friends don't behave like that.
I still insist to tell me -from ur experience- if somebody can see ur computer? I've heard it is obvious. How and why?

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Why ?

Wicked fun and pleasure when disclosing people's personal information on the forum.

How ?

Ask Sonomod.

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quote:
Originally posted by Snoozin:
What do you mean by this part, Sadeeqy? Why is this bad? I'm not familiar with all of this stuff.... [Confused]

On Windows, most people are running the system using accounts having full control over the system (administrator account).

For example, when you install the Windows XP, it creates a hidden account, called "administrator", that has no password (a very bad thing).

All the users created during the install (those appearing on the screen when you start your computer) have administrative powers.

You should change their status to "restricted user" and keep only one of those as an "administrator". You should also change the password for the account called "administrator".

All passwords should be at least 12 characters long, they should contain uppercase and lowercase letters, numbers and special signs, and they shouldn't be dictionary words.

When you're connected to the internet, you should be logged on as one of those "restricted users".


OMG, has anyone here an opening for a security consultant.... [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] ?

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I may tell u that once I gave my comp to the specialist and he removed spies which I couldn't get rid of by normal tools.
I do have nothing special in my comp. But it happened.
Why and how pppl do it? Am asking again.

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The place is taken, Sonomod's.
Why you think that crap is running around the froum then ?!

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Sonomod, where are u?
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quote:
Originally posted by mooneal:
I may tell u that once I gave my comp to the specialist and he removed spies which I couldn't get rid of by normal tools.
I do have nothing special in my comp. But it happened.
Why and how pppl do it? Am asking again.

The things above are just basics.... [Roll Eyes]

Why did they do it? Curiosity, malice, the feeling of power... and, of course, financial gain...

Infected computers are called "zombies" and they are sold by the thousands to organised crime to be used in illegal activities, without the knowledge of the owners...

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And why it must be Sonomod? Are u searching for a scapegoat?
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She did it with me before ya.

All spacegoats are taken [Frown]

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quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
The place is taken, Sonomod's.
Why you think that crap is running around the froum then ?!

It was a joke...I was only making fun of myself...before anyone else does it... [Roll Eyes]

I am as silly as a goat when it comes to serious stuff regarding computers... [Smile]

So...any opening for a goat, or this place is taken, too? [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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Sad, I'm a teacher...
Moreover, my family pay monthly for blocking all those "danger numbers". Who is it? Whose game is it?

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She is no Scapegoat, she is a scaprebitch.

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The question is still not answered.
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quote:
Originally posted by mooneal:
The question is still not answered.

I've answered your questions... [Confused]
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Thanks Sad. I'm going to sleep and create a picture of it in my mind. Good night. Thanks for ur support.
All of u, Corv. [Wink]

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Sweet dreams, Mooneal! [Smile]
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Thanks so much for your support yesterday. Especially Sadeegy helped me a lot with her knowledge and advice. Honestly, I know nothing about it. Other things – yes, but computers and control? No. I followed your advice which I was able to do myself. There was no virus in my computer, only spies. Also Nanouk helped me a lot. Thanks again.
You know, I couldn’t laugh at it, more – was in panic - because am writing my diploma project and documents for my school.
It is not funny to see that sth u’re working on has changed for an unknown reason.
Can you imagine my diploma project like that? Weeks of hard work.
Yes, I’m downloading stuff from the Internet now. I need it. Perhaps I downloaded a spy yesterday.
Take care. How is your day?

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quote:
Originally posted by mooneal:
There was no virus in my computer, only spies.

Spies (and trojan horses) can be much more serious than viruses. Most spies just follow which sites you log on for marketing purposes. Others are very serious threats such as monitor what you type on your keyboard (those are called loggers).
Most loggers are from people trying to capture passwords, but some are planted by surveillance organizations.
Spouses and parents have been known to have put loggers on their so-called loved ones' computers.

Ladies and gents don't get any ideas now [Big Grin]
(why is it that there is no evil laugh smiley?)

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