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I am married to a wonderful Egyptian man, and we are planning to have children, have any of you foreign ladies actually had children in Egypt.
I am terrified of lying and o not want to go back to UK, to have my little one, so I will be staying here and having it in Alex, do you have any experiences that you can share,
Also visas, I have heard that even though I have the child here I can still get an English Birth certificate from the British consulate in Cairo, and from then a British Passport, do you know if this is true.
Thanks for any help, Regards

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I am married to a wonderful Egyptian man, and we are planning to have children, have any of you foreign ladies actually had children in Egypt.
I am terrified of flying and do not want to go back to UK, to have my little one, so I will be staying here and having it in Alex, do you have any experiences that you can share,
Also visas, I have heard that even though I have the child here I can still get an English Birth certificate from the British consulate in Cairo, and from then a British Passport, do you know if this is true.
Thanks for any help, Regards

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Hi Nina,yes its true you can get the british passport for your children here,just go to the british embassy and give them your child's(english) birth certificate ,you will fill out a few forms and pay around 1000 LE.
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YES THATS TRUE U CAN DO THAT BUT IM STILL HAVE MY CHILD IN BRITAIN ,IF A BOY THEY STILL CAN CALL UP IF THERE S STILL A MILITARY CALL UP IF WE ALL HERE AND NOT BLOWNUP ....CAUSE HES BORN THERE ,CHECK IT OUT ITS HAPPENED TO MY FRIEND HER BOY WAS BORN IN MAADI AND HH GOT BRITISH PASS PRT AND THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE BUT HE STILL GOT TO SERVE SHES FIGHTING IT IN THE CRTS WIF HIM AND FATHER TOO ,BUT IF UR BOTH BRITISH LIVING THERE AND IS MARRIED UR FINE UR KIDS R ..BUT IM ONLY SAYING FOR WHAT IVE SEEN IT MIGHT NOT BE A PROBLEM wish u look .sorry for capitals its decidedt owrk again now half way through s illy keyboared ive got a new on cus me dyslexic keeps playing up ..GOOD LUCK SWEETY ..
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OH BY THE WAY HER SON IS NOW 21
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there is a really good doctor called sherif hamza, but he's in cairo. alot of expats deal with him.

i'm not sure about alexandria, but ill check with my sister in law since inshallah she's going to have a baby there in september

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ninaeuro:
Hi I had my children in Cairo, I am sure that Alex will have good doctors too.
I had a check up once a month, etc.. just like in the UK, normal delivery etc..
The total cost was 50 egp per visit, then for the delevery and hospital room for 1 night, around £700 Sterling. the only thing thats done differently, is that once you go home thats it, your mother/family/friends etc.. will be helping you, no health visitor as in the UK. You actually go to see a recommended Paedertrician, normally recommended by the doctor, and you will again pay on each visit. Don't worry all is fine.
Any more info, let me know

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no wonder they have has many kids here in britan you dont have to pay WE PAY THEM ..my gord how much it cost there per visit.. [Eek!]
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i didnt think there would be a health visitor in egypt... but is there really NO aftercare...

how are babies protected? are they?

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nooooooooooo theybecome one mad crazy dudes [Roll Eyes] oops what did i say ,HELP !!!!!! bird flu 45mins away near my city ..NOCULATIONS QUICK?????? [Confused] [Mad]
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quote:
Originally posted by ChImPs:
no wonder they have has many kids here in britan you dont have to pay WE PAY THEM ..my gord how much it cost there per visit.. [Eek!]

why don't you for once say something useful? [Eek!]
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Egypt is not doing that bad.
Mortality among kids under 5 yo is 78 on 1000.
Compared to neighbours Libya 31/1000 and Sudan 185/1000.
Western:
US 16/1000, UK 12/1000 Netherlands 11/1000
One can have birth at home if there are no complications, that is among most Dutch still conceived as the most safe birthgiving.
Hospitals and specialists have there own mortalityrates.

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people take advantage of the NHS every day. thousands of women come to britain to give birth.
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SHUT UP ????IS THAT GOOD FOR YOU !!!!TOO RIGHT WE ARE A MEAL TICKET .????r u too again charm u playing me sweety


posted 28 April, 2006 05:36 AM
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no wonder they have has many kids here in britan you dont have to pay WE PAY THEM ..my gord how much it cost there per visit..
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why don't you for once say something useful?

AMORIE MAYADAH

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[Frown] HEY CHARM hows it going gal ,not been good here ,been made redundant ..cant pay for my daughters carers now ..she have them for 5yrs im looking for coaching in cricket in speacial need school dont care where it is .if u hear of summat let me know ..thanx mainly london if cool.and she cant cope wif change in her life so i m want to keep them im aplying now for the goverment to help me but i dont think so do u ????
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"r u too again charm u playing me sweety"

whats up chimps? im not playing anyone.

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180 seconds and my [Wink] got stuck [Big Grin]
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chimps... i missed your post there... this 180 thing is so annoying.

im sorry to hear that hun, will you get funding???

so are you moving to london? where... when?

what work do you do? cricket coaching in a special needs school is a bit limiting.

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no im commute got free rail travel no probs there ..yes im level 3 ..speciality in all but mainly love special needs cus of daughter..no will stay here she wont copewif a move ...imnot sure me get help cus they no i was on a high income before .got sum contacts in gov special needs play but wait we c thnx ..
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i have a few friends in teaching, wow, when i think of it i actually have a lot of friends that are teachers! i can think of 7!!! why havnt i noticed that before??!!!

i'll send them emails... they might know of something.

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thnkyou ..my hubby arrives soon and hes a teacher ,maths and cp ,hes papers r transferable and he strts in about 6weeks time he tell me not to worry its gonna be ok ,but im love being out luv kids ..but im thinking about doing my own club now ,and being wif her more ..
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i did summat so funny good that i see the mistake before any one else did . [Big Grin] thnk god for the 180 seconds..


any thing wud be apprieciated

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quote:
Originally posted by ChImPs:
SHUT UP ????IS THAT GOOD FOR YOU !!!!TOO RIGHT WE ARE A MEAL TICKET .????r u too again charm u playing me sweety


posted 28 April, 2006 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by ChImPs:
no wonder they have has many kids here in britan you dont have to pay WE PAY THEM ..my gord how much it cost there per visit..
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why don't you for once say something useful?

AMORIE MAYADAH

errm have no idea what you just said, try to learn your own language

the woman is asking about a doc to help her, and you're droning on and on about crap. you either help her, or go away

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bug off ..
Ain Shams University Hospital, Cairo, Egypt.

Al Shorouk Hospital, Mohandeseen, Egypt.

Al Moukawileen Al-Arab Hospital, Autostrade, Nasr City, Egypt.

Al Nada Hospital, Manial, Egypt.

Anglo-American Hospital Zohoreya, Zamalek, Egypt.

Anglo American Hospital, Zohoreya, Egypt.

As Salam International Hospital, Maadi, Egypt.

Arab Contractors Medical Center, Nasr City, Egypt.

Behman Psychiatric Hospital, Helwan, Egypt.

Cairo Medical Cente, Heliopolis, Egypt.

Cleopatra Hospital, Heliopolis, Cairo, Egypt.

El Salam International Hospital, Maadi, Egypt.

"French" Kasr El Aini Hspital, Kasr El Aini, Egypt.

Giza International Hospital, Pyramids, Egypt.

Heliopolis Hospital, Heliopolis, Egypt.

Intertility Clinic, Maadi, Egypt.

Italian Hospital, Abbassia, Egypt.

Kasr El Aini Hospital, Egypt.

Magdy Hospital, Dokki, Egypt.

Misr International Hospital, Dokki, Egypt.

Nile Badrawi Hospital, Maadie, Egypt.

Shalaan Surgicenter, Mohandeseen, Egypt.

some of then r ok here and dont charge fees for the first 3mnths of the pregnancy

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Thanks for your help.
I am planning on having it in Alex, there is a famous army Hospital there that I will hopefully be going to it is Surposed to be one of the Best in the Country, with some of the best doctors.
I also looked on the website for the British embassy and learnt that I can get it British citizenship also so that should be good.
I am a bit worried about not having the health visitor like in the UK, I expected this, but it is reasurring when you have someone coming to see you for a while after just to check that everything is going ok.

I am 9 weeks now so still a long way to go but I really happy and excited.

Thanks again for your help, if you do have any more information I would be really appreciative of your input

Thank you all!!!

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has i sad there r health visitors but they r done differently out there ,im not sure of the website im not sure of the army hosital but its a good one i know that and they might NO OF SUMMAT. OK GOOD LUCK WIF UR PREGANANCY ..AND BEFORE I WASNT GETTING AT YOU OR TAKING THE MIC IT WAS A GENRAL REAMaRK FOR ALL NOT U PERSONALY LOVE OK ..WISH YOU WELL ..
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Nina, your kids will get British nationality but they will not be able to give it to THEIR kids if they're born outside the UK. I know that may not seem important to you now, but it happened to a friend of mine; her British son born in Egypt was not able to give British nationality to his baby.

So if you are thinking of the long term, you might want to have it back in the UK.

Regarding birth methods here, unfortunately maximum interference is the order of the day, including general anaesthetic (which isn't even in the books) and forceps or ventouse. YOu'll have to make it very clear what kind of birth you want. They do have epidurals now too, but 'natural' birth is not in demand and not encouraged by doctors - there are no midwives either.

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I have a question about this, in America they give pain killers to women in labor, do they do that in Egypt?? What kind do they give?? Do they give epidurals here and would I want to once I get pregnant (inshallah)?
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Just give me gas and air so I will laugh my head of I do not care just give me some thing!

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quote:
Originally posted by Ninaeuro:
Thanks for your help.
I am planning on having it in Alex, there is a famous army Hospital there that I will hopefully be going to it is Surposed to be one of the Best in the Country, with some of the best doctors.
I also looked on the website for the British embassy and learnt that I can get it British citizenship also so that should be good.
I am a bit worried about not having the health visitor like in the UK, I expected this, but it is reasurring when you have someone coming to see you for a while after just to check that everything is going ok.

I am 9 weeks now so still a long way to go but I really happy and excited.

Thanks again for your help, if you do have any more information I would be really appreciative of your input

Thank you all!!!

there is a doctor in alexandria called ahmed warda, he's very good. i haven't talk to my SIL yet, but when i will i will get you her doctor's name inshallah. hope you have a good pregnancy inshallah [Smile]
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quote:
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there is a really good doctor called sherif hamza, but he's in cairo. alot of expats deal with him.

Yeah, I heard positive things about him as well. I personally wouldn't go to a male gynaecologist though ... how come in Egypt there are more men than women in this profession???
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Yeah I know, my husband being egyptian is Jealous which I do not under stand because it is not sexual I am having a baby, nothing could be further from my mind.

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quote:
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there is a really good doctor called sherif hamza, but he's in cairo. alot of expats deal with him.

Yeah, I heard positive things about him as well. I personally wouldn't go to a male gynaecologist though ... how come in Egypt there are more men than women in this profession???
you know i actually prefer male gynos in egypt. i went to several women and they really humilated me.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ninaeuro:
Yeah I know, my husband being egyptian is Jealous which I do not under stand because it is not sexual I am having a baby, nothing could be further from my mind.

There is also the option where the husband can deliver it himself...
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quote:
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There is also the option where the husband can deliver it himself...

Oh good LORD! That would be heaven and paradise. Solve 80% of the world's problems right there!
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Originally posted by TheWesternDebt2Islaam:
There is also the option where the husband can deliver it himself...

Oh good LORD! That would be heaven and paradise. Solve 80% of the world's problems right there!
providing there are no complication - breech etc.
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quote:
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There is also the option where the husband can deliver it himself...

Oh good LORD! That would be heaven and paradise. Solve 80% of the world's problems right there!
providing there are no complication - breech etc.
If men are so great, if men are better than women and only men can recieve the word of God, then men can handle anything, including complications in childbirth. [Roll Eyes]
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er... westie... did you just see something go over your head???

(i think she pictured the husband on his back with his legs in the air pushing)

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Well they most probably can.

Women are great too, they have been delivery themselves for centuries! without all these drugs etc of today.

Is it unheard of husband delveying babies in Egypt?

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quote:
Originally posted by Charm El Feikh?:
er... westie... did you just see something go over your head???

(i think she pictured the husband on his back with his legs in the air pushing)

Actually I picture that and more.

I see that exact image, but him giving birth to himself in full adulthood form and that creature eating him alive.

This creature would look like the "fighting mooriqui" from "Lord of the Rings ~ fellowship of the ring".

Actually thats a comforting image. [Big Grin]

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HHHHHHAAAAAAHAHAHAHA HEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!!!!!!!

i see it!

(i'd even mop his brow, hold his hand and tell him to breathe whilst pulling stupid panting faces)

(anything so long as i could be there at the birth)!

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quote:
Originally posted by Charm El Feikh?:
er... westie... did you just see something go over your head???

(i think she pictured the husband on his back with his legs in the air pushing)

Sorry, I wasnt clear.
I meant the husband can deliver the baby instead of a doc, when his wife is in labor!

Has/Does this happen in Egypt [Confused]

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hehehe... i know what you meant!
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quote:
Originally posted by Ninaeuro:
Yeah I know, my husband being egyptian is Jealous

Your husband is jealous of a doctor?!?

[Confused]

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I know, if I have to see a man then ok but he would rather me see a woman, but then again so would I, flashing my privates to a man or woman I do not know is not my idea of fun even for medical reasons but I would rather a woman than a man

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then ask for one.

im so glad i was delivered by a woman with my first child.

i actually had a gay midwife with my 4th... he was fantastic! he was sooooo camp it was hysterical! he looked at my notes and said [in a very camp voice] "oh, i see youve never had an epidural... go on, have one... treat yourself" so i did, and it was the best thing anyone has ever advised me to do!!!!

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here in my city if u choose to have woman its ok .they look at the aspect of a woman not wanting a man .but it is all freedom of choice .im not have one man at all i had female only the only time ihave had a man is a consultant and half the time i saw his woman locum .but my genral doctor is a man and i wud not have that any other way hes KOOL >>>
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i find as im getting older i really dont want to see male doctors.

i dont know why... the male doctors at my practice are great.

it might be cause when i was younger they are just older than you so its fine to ask for help and advise... but as the doctors seem to be more my own age now... and soon younger... i just dont want to talk to be treated by them.

i dont mean in A&E or even simple doctors stuff... but any kind of personal stuff.

i wouldnt not have a man do a smear test on me.

and when it comes to child birth you MUST be comfortable and happy with everything or it can be dangerously traumatic.

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I had my first son here in Cairo. I did it the hard way which I wouldn't recommend to anyone.
We didn't have much money because we had just finished building our flat. My husband's family is a bit more old fashioned so my western ways were a big wake up call for him in "proper" medical care. Both of his sisters never saw doctors except once to find out the gender of the baby and most were delivered by their husbands or mother at home. With our first son (now 9 months old) I went through 4 doctors. First I tried going to women doctors because my husband wasn't comfortable with men. Then the two women we saw were so horrible and his aunt recommended a male doctor. In the end we used this male doctor, I had a c-section (with a general anes. which I hated to do) and some crappy hospital here. I won't be making any of those mistakes this time. I am 22 weeks pregnant now and I have a wonderful doctor. He was recommended by the U.S. Embassy. He charges one fee of 800 LE for the whole pregnancy (not including c-section or delivery). I have a sonogram at almost every visit, he and his staff are very professional and he is very thorough. My husband is working at As Salam International Hospital in Maadi (which is suppose to be one of the best). We are thinking to have the baby there, but not sure yet. At any rate, that's my experience so far. Good Luck!

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LET ME FIRST CONGRATULATE U ON HAVING A SON ,hope all is fine inshallah with you all ,and i know a doctor that wrkd there hes now serving has a doctor in the military up in the sinai ..yes very good he always said it was nice there even the one in near zamalak is nice to ive been told ,the one i had to go to was in ihsmalia ,was ok ...any congrats again good luck with the other one [Smile] take it easy very lucky woman ...
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