quote:Originally posted by micky azzam: how about chefs from usa?
They pay foreign chefs very well, but not the females. They don't take female chefs.
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what ? i am an executive chef here in the states.they wont take me anywhere in egypt? even with all my certifcations?????????? Posts: 9443 | From: USA...... | Registered: Jun 2006
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quote:Originally posted by micky azzam: what ? i am an executive chef here in the states.they wont take me anywhere in egypt? even with all my certifcations??????????
No they won't, sorry, I told you it's a man's world in there and that's not the only reason why I hate them for discriminating women.
Even if a miracle happens and they take you, you will be sexually harassed so much that you will beg them to let you go.
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maybe with my charm i can persaude them lol! i dont live in egypt yet but if this damn visa doesnt go through i will be on my way .
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quote:Originally posted by micky azzam: maybe with my charm i can persaude them lol! i dont live in egypt yet but if this damn visa doesnt go through i will be on my way .
Your charm? Hehe!
I suggest you move to Egypt so you would understand your husband better before you bring him over to the US.
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well. For waiter about 300 to 400 to manager the double of u pay for ur waiters and the same to the chef and for the bus boy ( cleaning and bla bla about 250 to 300 LE for the reaction fpr having a female boss i think that will be great for them but i advice u to be more straight and serious the 95 % time u spend with ur staff and good luck for ur project
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i am a boss here in the usa and run a kitchen i love my employees and they love me we have resecpt for each other that is the key and as for you my kingdom....i understand my husband completely .he would rather me move to egypt then coming here. so i need to find a good paying job. he has one and i want one. dont worry about me understanding my husband . what does that have to do with chefs in egypt ???????????
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i don't live in egypt but i stayed in the sheraton and the chef was a lady.Iam not sure if that rules apply to most placses though
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quote:Originally posted by micky azzam: we have resecpt for each other that is the key
It's this notion of respect who will be the problem Micky There is nothing like that in Egypt, especially in the hotel's field, where you will find non educated men. I think you've already stayed or lived in Egypt, so you have noticed the harrassement in the street...These same guys will do the same! Of course, by being very firm and distant, I think you can be "respected". Never use the word "charm" Distance and coldness, that's the way you will have to treat them -again, look how maids/servants are treated, and what happens if you feel pity for her and treat them as equals...I know, for a foreigner, it's just so shocking, but in Egypt, that's the way it is.
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i will not let anyone treat me that way i deserve respect and i respect everyone. and my husband wont allow these to do this
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Barbapapa is correct. My husband admitted to me that it takes a LOT to get an Egyptian man to respect a woman other than his mother or sisters (even that is iffy). Showing the men any hint of "charm" is asking for trouble. A simple smile can equal an assumption that you want to crawl into bed. Posts: 2735 | From: my desk | Registered: Jul 2005
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Micky, what about setting up your own restaurant in Egypt? I'll visit!
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I will keep you all informed how its going with my restaurant and working as a female chef! And if any of u are in Hurghada- please come in and say hello! The restaurants name is: Cafe Del Mar and its located in Sakalla.
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i will be in egpyt in sep and i will come and visit your resturant.my husband lives 2 hours away from hurghada Posts: 9443 | From: USA...... | Registered: Jun 2006
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if i come there to live i have property on the beach on the red sea and would love to build a resturant there. then all you can come and i will have all female and family staff Posts: 9443 | From: USA...... | Registered: Jun 2006
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Well...u never know. I´m getting started in september and if the restaurant will be as busy as I think...there might be a possibility for you at my place Posts: 42 | From: Scandinavia | Registered: Mar 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Queen of plans: Anybody who knows how much local restaurant staff`s salary is for: * Chefs *Waiters * Manager * Cleaning/dishwash Thanx!
Local resturant like Abu shakra for example : Chefs maybe from 1400 to 1700 le according to his experience Waiters from from 800 to 950 ( not including tips) Manager maybe 2500 le Cleaning 400 or 450 le
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Why the hell does she want to work as a chef ?? she can pick any one she likes , marry him and he will take good care of her (as long as he is getting the american passport ).
-------------------- HandsUpHandsDown is that american woman who used to be known as "ana huna" in ES! Strange but true. Posts: 1123 | Registered: Oct 2005
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I WANT TO WORK . MY HUSBAND HAS HIS OWN BUSINESS BUT WE USA PEOPLE WANT TO WORK AND I AM A CHEF.2 INCOMES ARE BETTER THEN 1 Posts: 9443 | From: USA...... | Registered: Jun 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Queen of plans: Anybody who knows how much local restaurant staff`s salary is for: * Chefs *Waiters * Manager * Cleaning/dishwash Thanx!
Local resturant like Abu shakra for example : Chefs maybe from 1400 to 1700 le according to his experience Waiters from from 800 to 950 ( not including tips) Manager maybe 2500 le Cleaning 400 or 450 le
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There is nothing like that in Egypt, especially in the hotel's field, where you will find non educated men. I think you've already stayed or lived in Egypt, so you have noticed the harrassement in the street...These same guys will do the same! Of course, by being very firm and distant, I think you can be "respected". Never use the word "charm" 
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