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Victor1975
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Hi all. Im rather new here and was wondering if anyone has gone through a similar experience (I'm glad I stumbled across EgyptSearch). Basically I moved to Cairo after about a year and a half in Doha. While I was in Doha I met an Egyptian expat and she seemed like the girl of my dreams, total click. Now, she's been back in Egypt for about two months after deciding that she was homesick. We discussed the whole marriage issue and agreed that we wanted to be married by July of '07. Well, to cut a long story short, I decided to leave my job in Doha in order to be closer to her. After being in Cairo now for almost two weeks I have come to the conclusion that she's not the same gal I fell in love with. Not only does she not want to spend as much time with me but she never told her parents about me. To add to the injury she's abiding by her parents' desire for her to get married and is now entertaining prospective grooms by going on dates with them!! This is where I need some help...She keeps telling me that she needs time to break the news to her parents that she was gong out with an American and then everything will be ok and we'll be on our blissful way. In the meantime, what? So far I've been relegated to the idiot in waiting.

Is this something that has happened to others? I think I need some suggestions as to whether I should find another person who's loyalty is more than skin deep. Am I stupid for still wanting to be with her?

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Not stupid, just naive.

Go back to Doha and don't look back.

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You aren't an idiot and you aren't stupid. My advice to you is to forget about her and just move on. Pascha is right in her advice. This situation will get you nowhere fast and why wait around when there are many other sweet wonderful women out there? It doesn't sound as if your future with her is all that promising, and while you're waiting around for her to say yes, she is out and about living her life and who knows what or how often she thinks of you. The fact that she hasn't told her parents about you might be out of fear of their disapproval or because it is serving her own self at the moment. Go out and live your life and don't wait for something that may never happen. Good luck to you in the future. [Smile]
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Hi Victor1975! Wow, what an interesting story you are telling us here on this forum, usually it's the other way around. Anyway, it doesn't look like she was that seriously with you from the beginning - or being back now with her parents she changed her mind and is obedient towards them. Anyway, be a man and move on as others already advised you. It says a lot if you already feel she's a different girl now than when you fell with her in love in the first place. Good luck in the future. And stick with expats, it's way less trouble! [Smile]
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Yeah, don't mess with Egyptian chicks man.

Nothing but problems!

Not that I have any experience with them personally, but thats just what I've heard [Big Grin]

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Probably this girl means much to you, so try to clear things up; I mean, talk to her and make her explain her behaviour. I think she doesn't know what she wants; or she doesn't dare say to her family that she wants to marry a non-muslim man. Have you thought how it would be for you to convert for her sake? However, if she insists acting like she does, I think it would be better for you to go back to Doha. If she doesn't really love you, what do you want her for?
Good luck and have faith in your self.

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Thanks a lot guys for the advice. I have given the thought of going back to Doha a lot of consideration. I did make a very well considered move to Cairo and would like to see what happens here even without having the woman I had originally come here for. As far as trying to talk to her it's as if I did something to offend her!? Dont get it. I think dumping her might be my only option, who knows, that may also be the only way she'd realize what a moron she's been.

NourHayati: For the record, I am actually muslim, as she is, but apparently that wasn't enough.

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Go away from her!Well if u r wish to hurt urself more ,than stay,but I don't think that she'll back to u!Sometimes is really hard to understand ppl...so this time look at urself,not anyone else!
But if she really loves u,after ur leaving,she'll find way to explain all to...Anyway,don't allow to her to play with ur heart-coz ur heart is most worthy...

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Victor, perhaps she is just too immature to be in a serious relationship that will consider marriage as the outcome? If she acts as if you did something to offend her, but won't come out and say it, puts you as the 'idiot in waiting' and is entertaining prospective 'grooms', can you imagine her state of mind in 5, 10 or 15 years? She can't even be open and honest with you NOW.

You sound like a relatively intelligent man who really deserves more than what it seems she is willing to offer. Or maybe she's waiting for you to pay the higher price for her? I wish you luck in whatever your decision may be.

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Once again, thanks a lot guys for your advice. I'm mulling over "the phone call", but I think if anything it'll force her hand to reveal what her true mindset is. My what a couple of weeks in Cairo this has been!
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quote:
Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers:
Victor, perhaps she is just too immature to be in a serious relationship that will consider marriage as the outcome? If she acts as if you did something to offend her, but won't come out and say it, puts you as the 'idiot in waiting' and is entertaining prospective 'grooms', can you imagine her state of mind in 5, 10 or 15 years? She can't even be open and honest with you NOW.

You sound like a relatively intelligent man who really deserves more than what it seems she is willing to offer. Or maybe she's waiting for you to pay the higher price for her? I wish you luck in whatever your decision may be.

wow you just can't drop it can you:

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=002254

I mean how threatened could you be? You live with him your marriage is registered, you are filling to get him into Texas.

I mean seriously why are you so threatened by the Egyptian woman?

Besides the immaturity smear can be said for people who seek mates online.

Besides this Victor 1975 sounds alot like Sr. Nobody in another thread.

So we've got a handful of new posters; Sr. Nobody, Victor 1975, and The Truth Machine.

Then another suspicious one is "skywalker"

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=directory;d=browse;p=604;sorder=0

Its time for a new wave of bogus posters.

Someone is bored, I am waiting for another "Unknownmodel" to start up.

I guess we have to wait until someone jacks off over the Vancouver Sun's advertisement section.

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Victor1975
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Sr. Nobody I am not. I am trying to enjoy my time in Cairo, or what's left of it. I just may end up staying just so Pascha can hypothesize some more..lol
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Sorry..."She's just not that in to you". The fact that you are not Egyptian may have a part in it, but I would not force something that doesn't fit.
Good Luck

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Hello Victor,
I think its over with her, sorry for that. However I think you should stay and enjoy cairo, obviously you came to be there for a reason and it would be a shame to leave before it is realized. Our lives are a compilation of our experiences so chalk this girl up in the lesson learned column and take the time to enjoy your new situation. Best of luck!

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It looks like I'll be in Cairo for a little, I guess it grew on me. I made 'the call' and ended it with her so at least now I can perhaps start something fresh here. Thanks a lot guys for pushing me to take the step.
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Hi victor,
Dont just go away because of a silly girl,get in touch maybe we could round up a few other fellows from here and hit downtown&have a ball,Cheers [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Victor1975:
It looks like I'll be in Cairo for a little, I guess it grew on me. I made 'the call' and ended it with her so at least now I can perhaps start something fresh here. Thanks a lot guys for pushing me to take the step.

How did she take it? did she sound indifferent? or wasa she upset? or.....
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quote:
Originally posted by Victor1975:
It looks like I'll be in Cairo for a little, I guess it grew on me. I made 'the call' and ended it with her so at least now I can perhaps start something fresh here. Thanks a lot guys for pushing me to take the step.

best of luck to you no matter what you do [Smile]
enjoy the sights while you're here [Smile]

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She actually was a little shocked when I told her I was disappointed (I think I used a stronger word) and decided to end it with her. She actually asked why. Of course I let her know it had to do with all the freakin' guys that she's "had" to see and the fact that I'm still unknown to her parents. After all that she asked me to give her some time but I just let her know that I don't have it in me to watch her bide her time with OTHER guys. I'm sure the story ain't over - I'd hate to beat a rather dead horse with you guys on another thread!! Perhaps I should searhc for another masreya? lol
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Hey Victor,

You know it is more complicated with egyptian chicks. but then isn't is so complicated with chicks in general [Wink] .
It was really hard to break it to my family that I will marry an american and I met him in the US. It took a lot of finessing and plotting to figur out how to get them to accept him without disowning me.. yep it's pretty serious for us egyptians to keep that pharao blood;)
And sure part of it was that he is american but I am sure i would have had almost as bad a battle if he was morrocan, saudi or palestinian.
Anyways, at the end it comes down to communication between you two though, life will bring a lot of sh*t in your way and if you two can't stick together thru it.... This may have just been a good excercise to see how your bond is.
But no seriously egytian chicks.... yikes alot of trouble... but worth it [Wink]

I'll PMs you when we're in Cairo next week. My hubby can hook up with you and tell you about all the sh*t he has ( and still does) to put up with [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Victor1975:
She actually was a little shocked when I told her I was disappointed (I think I used a stronger word) and decided to end it with her. She actually asked why. Of course I let her know it had to do with all the freakin' guys that she's "had" to see and the fact that I'm still unknown to her parents. After all that she asked me to give her some time but I just let her know that I don't have it in me to watch her bide her time with OTHER guys. I'm sure the story ain't over - I'd hate to beat a rather dead horse with you guys on another thread!! Perhaps I should searhc for another masreya? lol

Why another masreya? [Big Grin]

anyway, if she ever loved you she'll get you back [Wink]

"If you love someone, set them free; if they come back to you, it was meant to be".

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<Why another masreya?>

hummmm...what is the meaning of "masreya?????

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egyptian female.
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quote:
Originally posted by The Dude:
Yeah, don't mess with Egyptian chicks man.

Nothing but problems!

Not that I have any experience with them personally, but thats just what I've heard [Big Grin]

~Alistair

Hey Dude...
How are u?
U don know me...do u?
If u remember Ex-Angel from Egyptalk...u will know me then....

how have u been? long time huh?

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