I am just glad my mother didn't take me in to cut off what God had given me. And because of that my daughter will be the same. If there is one thing I can give my daughter is the gift of not feeling shame over her privates. There is nothing shameful about having genitalia and being female. In that manner she will have a more wholesome and Islamic view of her sexuality and not such a perverted sense that other Egyptians have towards female sexuality. My ex and I have already agreed she won't marry an Egyptian.
Please don't tell me this thread is becoming another FGM freak show ya Sono.
You're being AUTISTIC as usual aren't you? Are you now referring to me being cut? I am not, just in case you haven't heard this before.
Now with your upbringing, I hope your Shebino Albino daughter doesn't end up having her own Cup Cake Show on the Internet.
GTG for my puking session. Goodnight.
And thats another thing she won't be inclined to, making a mockery of disabled people.
Yeah white women this, white women that. You brought it up, not me.
When a woman has normal adult formed mons, labia major and minor it isn't something to joke about, actually its the way things should be. What a real freak show is having this actually done. Prince Alberts and peirced clit hoods area actually circus material and not the norm in the west, same with this insistance of having grade school female genitalia. Catch my drift?
You brought it up.
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I don't know what Lil' Kim, a black woman, would want lip enhancement injections
Excellent observation.
Only white women end up getting thin and hanging lips.
All lips.
Hmm, are you being sarcastic with me MK?
Before every white woman in a thousand miles bears down on me with a baseball bat, not EVERY white woman has thin lips.
MK, I suggest you make a disclaimer aswell
~Alistair
I'm not being sarcastic at all. And I didn't say EVERY white woman has thin lips. I said ONLY white women have thin lips, or to rephrase it, thin lips are more of a white women's feature rather than black women.
I can't think of one black woman with thin lips. It's genetic. It's just like I've never seen a black woman with white skin!!
And I wasn't even sarcastic when I mentioned ALL lips instead of BOTH lips.
And I wasn't even sarcastic when I mentioned ALL lips instead of BOTH lips.
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Guys i must say , it certainly is sad over this poor lassie, she was really a stunner before she got sick,, It is a terrible thing anorexia, I battled over my weight most of my life, But i couldnt even think to be like this, Im always so hungry, But now i eat good and have lost 11 kilos and feel great, and am really proud of myself, wearing clothes i havent fitted into for years,
Luckily my boobs are also real,, they are not getting smaller, nice E cup,
As for the lips, guys, well the upstairs lips are nice and full and the others , just doin fine i think tyra is very sexy, great for a model, Tiger, i think im more into, brad, or john bonjovi, and i could take woody harleson
Tiger, i think im more into, brad, or john bonjovi, and i could take woody harleson
No problem, Yorki, I like your taste when it comes to men but most importantly I don't like to share! Posts: 30135 | From: The owner of this website killed ES....... | Registered: Feb 2004
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Oh, I love them all too! Sade's voice is really extraordinary and what a beautiful woman indeed. I like most "Never As Good As The First Time", "Paradise", "Nothing Can Come Between Us".
My little one usually falls asleep with her 'Love Deluxe' CD.
Seriously I doubt that she will ever come on tour again. But keep your fingers crossed - Phil Collins just stated in a recent interview that Genesis will reunite. Wonderful!!!
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yes, ive heard this also, so all the songs you say are soo wonderul, is it a crime, no ordinary love, all, theres no bad, she my true fav, god shes sooo wonderfull. lets pray shell come back to us
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BTW, I watched last night the Flight UA93 movie which they played on Premiere. But I had to turn it off after the second commercial airplane hit the World Trade's south tower and the terrorists took over flight UA93. I got really restless and didn' want to get panic. Maybe another time I can watch the second part of it. I just can't imagine to sit in an airplane which got hijacked, it was all too real. I get always nervous when stepping into an airplane (even if my mind tells me f.e. 'in five hours you will be landing happily in Egypt') so this movie produces even more fears for me.... Posts: 30135 | From: The owner of this website killed ES....... | Registered: Feb 2004
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What a shame about her. She was a beautiful vibrant young woman (that is before her anorexia) with her life just beginning to unfold before her. Anorexia seems to be happening over and over again among models and it is a frightening trend that is becoming more rampant with teenagers (at least in the West). Apathetic view towards anorexia are harmful and certainly do nothing to help the situation...
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quote:Originally posted by Samarra_Anissa: And thats another thing she won't be inclined to, making a mockery of disabled people.
Sono, let me teach you something about your own language. The words "moron", "idiot", and "imbecile", are actually medical diagnoses. They are used daily by people like you without even knowing that they are mocking disabled people.
The word "autistic" could mean someone with autism, but it also means someone who views life only from his own perspective and solely based on his own needs and desires. .
I would never make fun of disabled people, but I do make fun of people who supposedly have a mind but never seize the chance to use it.
Sono, let me teach you something about your own language. The words "moron", "idiot", and "imbecile", are actually medical diagnoses.
Wade7?!! [/QUOTE]
Medical terms no one uses anymore today in the professional public health service! Wake up ya shatra! And please spare us in giving medical examinations about other people's IQ's on this forum. I recommend that you at first get your head checked out throughly. If you feel the need then stand infront of your mirror every day and I repeat the following words "I am a moron, I am an idiot, I am an imbecile" at least 100 times. You ain't need a brain at all to do that.
BTW, where did you buy your medical degree? In the university of a**holes? Gosh, you suck so much!!!
Not stepping up here for Sono as she can take well care of herself!
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Medical terms no one uses anymore today! Wake up ya shatra! And please spare us in giving medical examinations about other people's IQ's on this forum. I recommend that you at first get your head checked out throughly. If you feel the need then stand infront of your mirror every day and I repeat the following words "I am a moron, I am an idiot, I am an imbecile" at least 100 times. You ain't need a brain at all to do that.
BTW, where did you buy your medical degree? In the university of a**holes? Gosh, you suck so much!!!
Not stepping up here for Sono as she can take well care of herself!
What is it ya GM that makes you thrive on making a total fool of yourself? Is it masochism or just pure plain stupidity?
The above are medical terms no one uses today? Says who? You? I never actually asked but what kind of degree do you have GM? Please answer me because this should explain a lot to me.
Here learn something about IQ Basics. I know you will not understand a word of it, but scroll down to the table before the last and have a look for yourself.
And why do you actually read my posts if they get on your nerves so much? I don't even bother to click your threads open. Every time I read a post of yours it's about "oh he's hot oh I am horny oh that sex joke was funny". How do you explain that?!! Where did *you* learn anything?!!
My God do you get a kick of getting insulted or what?!!
Instead of spending all Friday night cruising around on porno sites, go learn something for God's sake!!
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quote:Originally posted by MK in Uggs: What is it ya GM that makes you thrive on making a total fool of yourself? Is it masochism or just pure plain stupidity?
The above are medical terms no one uses today? Says who? You? I never actually asked but what kind of degree do you have GM? Please answer me because this should explain a lot to me.
"Moron was originally a scientific term, coined by psychologist Henry Goddard from a Greek word meaning "foolish" and used to describe a person with a genetically determined mental age between 8 and 12 on the Binet scale. It was also once applied to people with an IQ of 51-70 and was a step up from "imbecile" (IQ of 26-50) and two steps up from "idiot" (IQ of 0-25). The word moron, along with "retarded" and "feeble-minded" (among others), was once considered a valid descriptor in the psychological community, though these words have all now passed into common slang use, exclusively in a detrimental context."
Oh my god, now you have been studying all these years and for what? You are the fool here on this forum ....... and you are proving it every new day again!
Go on, tell the patients of your husband that they are 'morons', 'idiots' and 'imbeciles' - I am sure you will keep your clients content and happy with these insults. Or you better not - remember don't bite the hand that feeds your foul mouth...... Posts: 30135 | From: The owner of this website killed ES....... | Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:Originally posted by MK in Uggs: What is it ya GM that makes you thrive on making a total fool of yourself? Is it masochism or just pure plain stupidity?
The above are medical terms no one uses today? Says who? You? I never actually asked but what kind of degree do you have GM? Please answer me because this should explain a lot to me.
"Moron was originally a scientific term, coined by psychologist Henry Goddard from a Greek word meaning "foolish" and used to describe a person with a genetically determined mental age between 8 and 12 on the Binet scale. It was also once applied to people with an IQ of 51-70 and was a step up from "imbecile" (IQ of 26-50) and two steps up from "idiot" (IQ of 0-25). The word moron, along with "retarded" and "feeble-minded" (among others), was once considered a valid descriptor in the psychological community, though these words have all now passed into common slang use, exclusively in a detrimental context."
Oh my god, now you have been studying all these years and for what? You are the fool here on this forum ....... and you are proving it every new day again!
Go on, tell the patients of your husband that they are 'morons', 'idiots' and 'imbeciles' - I am sure you will keep your clients content and happy with these insults. Or you better not - remember don't bite the hand that feeds your foul mouth......
Do you even understand what you've just posted?
Your quote supports what I have been saying to Sono! And the link I posted is a very modern one. So I don't need you to tell me what the news are in Medicine. Ya lahwi that would be the end of it! Do you ever see me argue with you about toilet cleaning? Why do you keep arguing with me about Medicine then?!!
So by proving me right you have actually turned against yourself! Great!
You are simply good for a case study ya GM! Would you please donate your skull for science? Thanks.
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quote:Originally posted by Left.Side.Lying.State.Of.Mind: If these guys knew what they were doing, there wouldn't be a problem.
But seriously, it's a psychological issue, not a diet/exercise one.
Never mind, Alistair is just using the occasion to talk about some of his favourite subjects – his gorgeous body and what he does to achieve it.
Just wait and see ... in a while he will complain that he was literally forced to show his pictures.
You know, you'd think that Dalia being a fellow fitness enthusiast would appreciate a well toned body..
But NO, she instead has some kind of weird grudge against me simply because I dare to take pride in my body.
And every time I've posted those pics (a grand total of two times over a year) it's been at the behest of others, and not due to my own inclination (check E-M's archives if you don't believe me)
Another thing, she knows and despises the fact that my knowledge of the human body is superior to hers by far, and she hates it even more when I offer advice to other people on fitness which she knows she can't provide due to her inferior knowledge
So why am I replying to MK's smiley face? Because even though this message is aimed at Dalia, I refuse to have any direct correspondence with her
quote:Originally posted by The Dude: You know, you'd think that Dalia being a fellow fitness enthusiast would appreciate a well toned body..
But NO, she instead has some kind of weird grudge against me simply because I dare to take pride in my body.
I do appreciate a well toned body! I happen to have one myself, so I definitely wouldn't want an overweight guy or one who spends a lot of time in front of his television consuming coke and junk food and growing a kirsh.
I can talk about health, fitness, sports, diet and so on all day long, in fact it's one of my favourite subjects, and I certainly don't bear any grudges against you.
I just couldn't help being facetious because you're so transparent sometimes. Posts: 3587 | Registered: Mar 2006
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quote:Originally posted by The Dude: You know, you'd think that Dalia being a fellow fitness enthusiast would appreciate a well toned body..
But NO, she instead has some kind of weird grudge against me simply because I dare to take pride in my body.
And every time I've posted those pics (a grand total of two times over a year) it's been at the behest of others, and not due to my own inclination (check E-M's archives if you don't believe me)
Another thing, she knows and despises the fact that my knowledge of the human body is superior to hers by far, and she hates it even more when I offer advice to other people on fitness which she knows she can't provide due to her inferior knowledge
So why am I replying to MK's smiley face? Because even though this message is aimed at Dalia, I refuse to have any direct correspondence with her
~Alistair
Well aren't you two a bunch of sweethearts?
Okay Dude, you know you are stunning and you know you flaunt with it all day and you know that Dalia doesn't like that because she's more of a down to earth person who is absolutely not a show-off.
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quote:Originally posted by Dalia*: I just couldn't help being facetious because you're so transparent sometimes.
I guess I'm going to have to break my own cardinal rule.
I don't buy your explanation. You think I have some ulterior motivation every time there's talk of fitness, even when my words and actions prove otherwise.
Case in point, it's not the first time you've brought up my pictures, and you always make it seem like I post them every chance I get.
The reality though, is that I've only posted them twice in public, once on E-M and the other on E-T. Both times many people were petitioning me to post them.
Just admit it, you don't like the attention I get
You claim I'm transparent, but you are aswell, even moreso...
quote:Originally posted by MK in Uggs: Okay Dude, you know you are stunning and you know you flaunt with it all day and you know that Dalia doesn't like that because she's more of a down to earth person who is absolutely not a show-off.
Why can't she just leave me alone? I leave her alone!
I don't hassle her all the time about her being more reclusive, so why does she have to hassle me about me being a big show boat? (although I'm not really a show boat )
quote:Originally posted by The Dude: The reality though, is that I've only posted them twice in public, once on E-M and the other on E-T. Both times many people were petitioning me to post them.
I believe that the first time must have been on ES, when it was you who actually started the thread when you were quite a new member here, if my memory serves me correctly, with pictures of your torso!
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quote:Originally posted by newcomer: I believe that the first time must have been on ES, when it was you who actually started the thread when you were quite a new member here, if my memory serves me correctly, with pictures of your torso!
Thats incorrect. I've never posted any picture of my body on E-S. I've posted one of my face, and thats it.
quote:Originally posted by Tigerlily: BTW, I watched last night the Flight UA93 movie which they played on Premiere. But I had to turn it off after the second commercial airplane hit the World Trade's south tower and the terrorists took over flight UA93. I got really restless and didn' want to get panic. Maybe another time I can watch the second part of it. I just can't imagine to sit in an airplane which got hijacked, it was all too real. I get always nervous when stepping into an airplane (even if my mind tells me f.e. 'in five hours you will be landing happily in Egypt') so this movie produces even more fears for me....
tiger lilly u worry they never died they aare all living ..nothing was in that plane one big coverup ..why you worry babes ........did u know they found one piece of the plane and a seat and it found no evedence tha life or dna was on there no blood nothing ..and wasnt all seats packed ...ALIENS ...
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quote:Originally posted by BANANA FACE., high on banana syrup:
quote:Originally posted by Tigerlily: BTW, I watched last night the Flight UA93 movie which they played on Premiere. But I had to turn it off after the second commercial airplane hit the World Trade's south tower and the terrorists took over flight UA93. I got really restless and didn' want to get panic. Maybe another time I can watch the second part of it. I just can't imagine to sit in an airplane which got hijacked, it was all too real. I get always nervous when stepping into an airplane (even if my mind tells me f.e. 'in five hours you will be landing happily in Egypt') so this movie produces even more fears for me....
tiger lilly u worry they never died they aare all living ..nothing was in that plane one big coverup ..why you worry babes ........did u know they found one piece of the plane and a seat and it found no evedence tha life or dna was on there no blood nothing ..and wasnt all seats packed ...ALIENS ...
Chimps you really believe that?
How about the tube victims on 7-11? was that fake too?
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Ten Step Method To Staging a Terrorist Attack
1) Hire a Crisis Management firm to set up an exercise that parallels the terrorist attack you are going to carry out. Have them run the exercise at the precise locations and at the very same time as the attack. If at any stage of the attack your Arabs get caught, tell the police it was part of an exercise.
2) Hire four Arabs and tell them they're taking part in an important exercise to help defend London from terrorist attacks. Strap them with rucksacks filled with deadly explosives. Tell the Arabs the rucksacks are dummy explosives and wouldn't harm a fly.
3) Tell four Arabs to meet up at London Underground and disperse, each getting on a different train. Make sure Arabs meet in a location where you can get a good mug shot of them all on CCTV which you can later endlessly repeat to drooling masses on television. ) While four Arabs are in London, plant explosives in their houses in Leeds. Plant some explosives in one of their cars in Luton for the police to later discover. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics on this one.
5) Before the bombings take place, make sure you warn any of your buddies who are scheduled to be anywhere near where the bombs go off. If this gets leaked to the press, just deny it.
6) 4th Arab goes out partying in London night before and ends up getting out of bed late. No worries, the 9/11 'hijackers' did the same thing but that didn't cause us a big problem. 4th Arab catches bus to see if other Arabs are waiting for him. 4th Arab starts hearing about explosions in the London Underground. 4th Arab comes to the realization that this he is being set up and freaks out. 4th Arab starts fiddling in his rucksack. 4th Arab sets bomb off and is blown up. If you hired any additional Arabs and they also got wind of the set up, make sure tere are GPS locators in the rucksacks so you can have police snipers ready to kill them before they can blow the whistle.
7) After the bombs go off, put out a story for over an hour that the explosions are a simple electrical fault. This gives you cover time to make sure the lazy bus Arab is dead and any other hired Arabs who reneged are also dead. Make sure any CCTV footage that doesn't support your official story is either seized or destroyed.
8) A few hours after the bombings, have one of your boys post an 'Al-Qaeda statement' claiming responsibility. Don't worry about the whole 'misreferencing the Qu'ran' thing, these idiots don't have the attention spans to figure it out.
9) After you have made sure that all the Arabs are dead and you are managing the story accordingly, wait for four days until the police piece together the story and find the explosives you planted in Leeds and in the car in Luton. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics this time either. The time delay will convince the gullible public that a real investigation is taking place. Create a background of the hired Arabs being militant Muslims. The drooling masses, as was the case with the '9/11 hijackers,' will ignore stories of neighbours saying they were the quiet, educated types who liked children and playing sports.
BBC excerpt: One local resident described him as "a nice lad".
"He liked to play football, he liked to play cricket. I'm shocked."
Another resident said he was just a "normal kid" who played basketball and kicked a ball around.
10) Sit back and enjoy as Blair and his minions grandstand in front of television cameras about staying the course in the war on terror. The pay raise, extra agency funding, and power to strip more freedoms and liberties made the ten easy steps to staging a terrorist attack a worthwhile venture. The dozens of dead people were necessary collateral damage. This is a dirty war, we need to be less moral than the terrorists to defeat them.
And that's how the government staged the bombings in ten easy steps.
Granted, you can interchange different pieces of the puzzle. The bombers could be real terrorists that knew exactly what they were doing. All you would need to do is control the 'mastermind' behind the attack and make sure his boys carried out the job in the way you wanted. Voila.
WHAT DO YOU THINK I THINK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU THINK IM ALL FOR THE BOMBINGS GET A GRIP WOMAN UR GOING OFF UR TOADSTALL YOU NEED A NEW FRIGGEN SEAT TO SIT ON ITS OBVOUSLY UR ASS IS GETTING BIG AND HAVE U BEEN HACKED LATELY ......CUS IF ANY GIT HERE CAN DO IT THINK THINK THINK WHAT THE HIGHER IRAAAQUIS CUD DO .....
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quote:Originally posted by BANANA FACE., high on banana syrup: Ten Step Method To Staging a Terrorist Attack
1) Hire a Crisis Management firm to set up an exercise that parallels the terrorist attack you are going to carry out. Have them run the exercise at the precise locations and at the very same time as the attack. If at any stage of the attack your Arabs get caught, tell the police it was part of an exercise.
2) Hire four Arabs and tell them they're taking part in an important exercise to help defend London from terrorist attacks. Strap them with rucksacks filled with deadly explosives. Tell the Arabs the rucksacks are dummy explosives and wouldn't harm a fly.
3) Tell four Arabs to meet up at London Underground and disperse, each getting on a different train. Make sure Arabs meet in a location where you can get a good mug shot of them all on CCTV which you can later endlessly repeat to drooling masses on television. ) While four Arabs are in London, plant explosives in their houses in Leeds. Plant some explosives in one of their cars in Luton for the police to later discover. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics on this one.
5) Before the bombings take place, make sure you warn any of your buddies who are scheduled to be anywhere near where the bombs go off. If this gets leaked to the press, just deny it.
6) 4th Arab goes out partying in London night before and ends up getting out of bed late. No worries, the 9/11 'hijackers' did the same thing but that didn't cause us a big problem. 4th Arab catches bus to see if other Arabs are waiting for him. 4th Arab starts hearing about explosions in the London Underground. 4th Arab comes to the realization that this he is being set up and freaks out. 4th Arab starts fiddling in his rucksack. 4th Arab sets bomb off and is blown up. If you hired any additional Arabs and they also got wind of the set up, make sure tere are GPS locators in the rucksacks so you can have police snipers ready to kill them before they can blow the whistle.
7) After the bombs go off, put out a story for over an hour that the explosions are a simple electrical fault. This gives you cover time to make sure the lazy bus Arab is dead and any other hired Arabs who reneged are also dead. Make sure any CCTV footage that doesn't support your official story is either seized or destroyed.
8) A few hours after the bombings, have one of your boys post an 'Al-Qaeda statement' claiming responsibility. Don't worry about the whole 'misreferencing the Qu'ran' thing, these idiots don't have the attention spans to figure it out.
9) After you have made sure that all the Arabs are dead and you are managing the story accordingly, wait for four days until the police piece together the story and find the explosives you planted in Leeds and in the car in Luton. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics this time either. The time delay will convince the gullible public that a real investigation is taking place. Create a background of the hired Arabs being militant Muslims. The drooling masses, as was the case with the '9/11 hijackers,' will ignore stories of neighbours saying they were the quiet, educated types who liked children and playing sports.
BBC excerpt: One local resident described him as "a nice lad".
"He liked to play football, he liked to play cricket. I'm shocked."
Another resident said he was just a "normal kid" who played basketball and kicked a ball around.
10) Sit back and enjoy as Blair and his minions grandstand in front of television cameras about staying the course in the war on terror. The pay raise, extra agency funding, and power to strip more freedoms and liberties made the ten easy steps to staging a terrorist attack a worthwhile venture. The dozens of dead people were necessary collateral damage. This is a dirty war, we need to be less moral than the terrorists to defeat them.
And that's how the government staged the bombings in ten easy steps.
Granted, you can interchange different pieces of the puzzle. The bombers could be real terrorists that knew exactly what they were doing. All you would need to do is control the 'mastermind' behind the attack and make sure his boys carried out the job in the way you wanted. Voila.
WHAT DO YOU THINK I THINK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU THINK IM ALL FOR THE BOMBINGS GET A GRIP WOMAN UR GOING OFF UR TOADSTALL YOU NEED A NEW FRIGGEN SEAT TO SIT ON ITS OBVOUSLY UR ASS IS GETTING BIG AND HAVE U BEEN HACKED LATELY ......CUS IF ANY GIT HERE CAN DO IT THINK THINK THINK WHAT THE HIGHER IRAAAQUIS CUD DO .....
You didn't answer my question, you just copied and pasted then progressed onto insults:
How about the tube victims on 7-11? was that fake too?
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i saw the Tyra banks show and she had a plastic surgeon on and he did a mammogram on the show scan her boobs to show everyone she was real and she was.
i tried puking up once when i was a bit over 30 pound overweight. being a normally thin girl and go up that much really killed my self image so i tried sticking my fingers down my throat. well after that, nothing really came up and from the force put against my neck muscles as i was heaving, i had millions of little broken blood vessels for a week and got a bloodshot eye. i though the hell with that and bought trimspa and that did the trick.
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I had an article from 1994 on eating disorders amoung Egyptian female youths. I'll try to find it.
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