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MK is right, most women are concerned with weight, in my experience. Slim women like food a lot too. It is sometimes assumed that just because a woman is slim that she doesn't crave the things that a plumper one might. I have worked in places where all of the women were slim yet obsessed with diet. All of us loved to talk about and discuss food. It honestly was a top topic. Men just don't seem to do this, although they can have issues with food too.

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Originally posted by Bubblesperson:
Dear nicely round MK (due to forthcoming happy event, and I am sure you are very fetching now)!!!

Sorry to hear you feel so fat and bloated... As others have said, consider it temporary, soon that weight will be out, you'll be back to normal, and until then, thankfully you have the empathy of others here in your condition, goodie!!!

Otherwise, just go with the flow - you know hormones do funny things to ladies at this time.. (And how is that for silly but well-meaning drivvel, sorry, I don't know what else to say of great cheer...).

Hang in there and all the best to you - oh, and perhaps you could eat only lettuce leaves when the hunger strikes you??? Other than the obvious non-weight-gain-thing, did you know that about 1,ooo heads of lettuce have the SAME effect on one as one Viagra pill??? HAHAHAHA... True, though - happy munching!!!

And to my dear Laura - no, no, I am not a doctoora, neither did I mean to give that impression... I am qualified as a counsellor, this was done for voluntary work I used to do back in London (for an AIDS organisation, many years ago). So I did practise this, however, only on an unpaid and voluntary basis, never as a full-time professional - so I don't like to call myself a counsellor, just said I had the training and then some experience.... JOB-wise I worked for lawyer's firms, first in London and then on the Red Sea, two totally different things...

Better point this out before I confuse anyone here terribly - besides, it would not do to mess up La Sono's files on me, we MUST have the correct details!!!!

Now if only I had posted yet whether or not I am a sugarmama, second or third wife, and how many Orfis I've signed in my time in Egypt, haha..... Aaah - are there any children??? And what was my religion again??? Well, never mind, I am positive La Sono shall tell me (that and more) soon....

Love to you ladies,
Bubble

PS. I am ONE Bubble - see, that is the name of my small, elegant Egyptian Siamese cat - just Bubble, not plural, cause she used to be bubbly in character - and *I* am her person, the bringer of food and TLC units, hence the nick..

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i have a t-shirt that i wore when i was HUGE, with a photo of me MASSIVE printed on the front and lines like IIIIII with slashes through them ///// on the back to represent pounds lost one at a time. i wear it sometimes to work to show what you CAN do.

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Some of your posts are very funny, some are interesting but I find you very pre occupied with celebrity. Could be the pressure of being married to a plastic surgeon that makes you feel insecure about your weight but remember that young and vulnerable people read your posts.
Just look at the Milan catwalks to see what I mean.
Who cares what Heidi Klum looks like!

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I love celebrity gossip. Not only because I just do, but because many patients come to us wanting JLo's butt, or Johnny Depp's hairline, (OMG once a guy wanted Micky Mouse's hairline. I swear!), so it would be handy to know how those people look like, don't you think?

And I have always been aware of my weight, even way before I met my husband. My worst nightmare is to grow fat. I don't care if this angers you.

And what if young and vulnerable people are reading this? Am I the only one in the whole wide web who mentions worrying about her weight? WE have a member here who is actually paying for a site that is starving her to death. Why is this not angering you then?

Yes I do look at Milan catwalks and those poor souls look miserable to me. What makes you think I want to be like them?

I just feel fat damn it!

And even though I have the option of surgery available on the spot, I have never considered getting rid of the extra fat with surgery, unlike the lady who you LOL with and respect her opinion so much about not being obsessed with looks. She's had surgery done in pursuit of beauty, so why don't you worry about the voices in her head that made her spend thousands of Pounds on such a trivial thing instead of charitable work?

"Er.. Take a good look in the mirror" and then talk!

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I can think of a whole lot worse nightmares than getting fat but 'hey' we are all different, thank God.

Who was it that wrote about the fool who gave her kingdom away for a tub of macarona and lentils?
Da Vinci!! or was it The Chef?

My lol was at Rumicraziluv thinking that I had called you 'rich bitch' ,when in fact you called yourself that ( it speaks volumes) and Mrs C was just pointing that out.
Then rumicraziluv realised her mistake.
You missed the sarcasm in Mrs C's post.
Obviously from your tone you have issues with Mrs C, that is your business not mine.

If you are sending your children to school on the money made from sad people who want Mickey Mouse hairlines then again that is your business.
Please carry on studying at celebrities, dont let me disturb you. Obviously it fills a void in your life.

""Er.. Take a good look in the mirror" and then talk!

No need! we appear to be poles apart.
Thankfully.



SWYS
Yes I dont disagree that women have weight issues.

But the factor here is she is pregnant! what does she expect?
to lose weight?
Doesn't her husband tell her how beautiful she looks pregnant?
Obviously not or she would be writing that thread instead of how fat she is!

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i have a t-shirt that i wore when i was HUGE, with a photo of me MASSIVE printed on the front and lines like IIIIII with slashes through them ///// on the back to represent pounds lost one at a time. i wear it sometimes to work to show what you CAN do.

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im a fitness instructor... its a motivational aid DUH!!!

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Who was it that wrote about the fool who gave her kingdom away for a tub of macarona and lentils?
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What is this dumb comment? That story was about my cravings! What does this have to do with anything?

My conclusion of you mentioning this is that you've been a lurker for way too long, and you decided to join by copying and pasting some recipes. Therefore I think you're morbidly obese and obsessed with food. And you are upset that someone actually looks good while you don't.

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My lol was at Rumicraziluv thinking that I had called you 'rich bitch' ,when in fact you called yourself that ( it speaks volumes) and Mrs C was just pointing that out.
Then rumicraziluv realised her mistake.
You missed the sarcasm in Mrs C's post.

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Married, to the most beautiful intelligent and caring woman. She was even more beautiful when pregnant and I told her every day.

2 wonderful, healthy, well sdjusted children.
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well.. i can offer my services as a fitness instructor/personal trainer... um /mother-of-4-so-i-know-what-it-feels-like...

i have a t-shirt that i wore when i was HUGE, with a photo of me MASSIVE printed on the front and lines like IIIIII with slashes through them ///// on the back to represent pounds lost one at a time. i wear it sometimes to work to show what you CAN do.

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CAN I SEE THE T/SHIRT ..its giving me pause to think on something in a healthy way ....

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im cuddly and wow im lovley well i think so i dont need a husband or man to tell me so i dont care any more there ,but im not ugly im ok ,the most beauitful perfect girl im see is with me every day
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I really dont know what to say to your comment about cancer it leaves me quite speechless. It appears that Mrs C has more restraint and class.

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Its great to vibe on all the good feelings and bodaciousness of pregnancy, but I think one should "train" like they are going to the Olympics. In other words, the more exercise and strengthening and stretching you do, if you are allowed, the easier delivery will be and the faster you will bounce back. You will also feel so much better about your body as it goes through all the changes.
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Back to sanity planet. *phew*

QB, last pregnancy I had premature contractions at 27 weeks+5, and I had obligatory bed-rest for 10 weeks. My God was that time a nightmare! Sudden switching from an extremely active and stressful life to total void was really hard to cope with.

This time around I'm being extra careful of course. I hardly do any physical activity and I think *that* is the reason why I'm feeling down. I feel so much better after physical exertion.

I have a yoga book and a pilates DVD, but I haven't been disciplined enough to do that stuff on regular basis. Your post motivates me though.

Thanks.

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I gained 70lbs with each of mine. I started out under 90 lbs. So man it was hard on me. I ate right too. So I don't know what the deal was.

I lost most of it each time. Never got all the way down to 85lbs, but........ well I look really healthy now. LOL

I agree with chimps. I don't think I'm so great. But we all have something special about us. We all want to be the most beautiful woman in the world to our man. Thank God I finally have one who thinks that! So that definately helps. But the real beauty is inside. (no pun intended lol) For me it was really hard to find anything that resembled beauty when I was pregnant. I felt like a whale.

So hang in there ladies.

Oh...my last baby was came at 35 weeks. She was 6lbs 3 oz. She was huge in the level 3 nursery. LOL

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Hush or our necromantically involved real man will call you insane for feeling like a whale while pregnant!

God how I hate a male who butts into women's issues like a hedgehog in a condom factory!

Ya Sheba, I have been with my husband for more than half a decade and he still tells me I'm the most beautiful everyday (and I'm not). He even stares and wows when I get out of the shower (and God I hate that!!), but you know what I mean; it's me me me..

I keep telling him he's lying!!

And I as a typical woman just keep asking for it. I was trying a new pair of maternity jeans on and I was like boohoo I'm fat. I'm so fat. Fat fat fat fat.. And then I turned and asked hubby what he thinks, and he was like: "Wow you're fat ".

*avalanches and explosions and earthquakes and hurricanes and tsunamis all at once*


"What do women want?"

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Felt a little fat during pregnancy, but not horribly so. Gained a total of 13 pounds.

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But I AM DEPRESSED about how big my stomach still is. And the angry c-section stitches across the belly; something I never thought would bug me. Did I also mention I came *out* of surgery with more stretch marks on my stomach than I went in with?

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How selfish and sick! Those stretch marks are beeeeaauuuuutiful. You must be having a void in your life to even notice them.

(Sorry I was being necromantically involved with you )

Lefty baby, it will be okay. We'll discuss this in the secret hideaway.

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Speaking of names. Your name, although very common, is the most beautiful name on earth.

Do you know what it means in Arabic?

"Pleasant (to look at)".

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Girls - how about the boobs? For all of you with multi pregnancies, question: how did your boobs survive the pregnancy blowing and then all out after lactation period??? I was very young when I had my daughter, almost did not breast feed, but - it ruined my boobs significantly... Am I just unlucky or is it more common?

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Unfortunately it has a strong genetic factor to it, KM. Many women do have this problem and some opt for surgery if it bugs them too much (NM: ). I personally nursed forever and still hardly noticed any change, while my friend Sh.F. told me once that her boobs became to resemble two socks with two eggs in them

We often have patients who come with their hubbies and get correction surgeries as a present for successfully finishing the offspring production phase . However, hubby doesn't operate those, but we refer them to another clinic that does. We do see the results though. Really excellent but there are scars left. Just wanted to add that hosbond does correction surgeries mostly for medical indications and is very cautious with patients who seek help for psychological reasons.

For breast correction surgeries, there are three options depending on the situation: 1/breast lift, 2/implants, 3/both.

Anyone with questions about this can PM me otherwise you will have a boobs chapter in Sono's file.

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Breasts are created for breastfeeding, Smuck. That's a small sacrifice for seeing the baby grow healthier and more intelligent than the others.

They will droop with age anyway, so at least blaming breastfeeding would be an acceptable excuse.

And I'm afraid you will go through lots of trouble breastfeeding ONLY becasue education around lactation is almost ZERO in Egypt. I mean even Egyptian women cannot get proper education about it, let alone a foreign person.

But that's a whole different story.

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Felt a little fat during pregnancy, but not horribly so. Gained a total of 13 pounds.

I just delivered. Lost about 22 pounds, unofficially, after weighing myself on the scale my skinny husband somehow broke.

But I AM DEPRESSED about how big my stomach still is. And the angry c-section stitches across the belly; something I never thought would bug me. Did I also mention I came *out* of surgery with more stretch marks on my stomach than I went in with?

But the little baby is adorable.

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At first, Tream Lefty, CONGRATULATIONS for your baby boy! Obviously everything went fine, you are doing wonderfuland and so is the healthy baby!


I am a little confused that you described that you have c-section stiches across your belly?

This kind of operation is not done anymore these days, my mom has a huge scar still from her c-section on the stomach when she delivered me in 1974.

I had so far four c-sections and everytime they cut just above the pubic area. It really doesn't look bad; it's not big either.

And about the the stretchmarks: Well you start really seeing them all once the baby is 'out'.

But don't worry about your stretchmarks and your belly for right now, the swelling will go down, the uterus will shrink etc.

Make sure you don't do any sports for the next following weeks incl. drastic homework or heavy carrying.

Congratulations again!!! All the best for your little family!!!

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Tiger - My mom also had a c-section from up to down and it lookded scary...

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Yes, Kara, my mom gets reminded of me everytime she takes a shower. I was delivered eight weeks too early because of severe problems...... I made it through ...... I can't thank her enough.

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Thanks so much MK - I agree with you about the genetic factor in the droopin' department. In that case correctional surgery seems to be the only option. I don't think changing post-preg body is only a woman's psychological issue: the husband is equally affected from the aesthetical point of view. On one hand he is a crazy happy to be a father but on the second one in most cases his wife's body will never be the same... And then he looks at the fallen women dancing with their bellies and the galloping depression case is ready!

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I had that type of incision because I was a full placenta previa, which ruptured. I think this is the only type of incision they can make for this condition. (Scariest time of my life)!

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I should get a book on breastfeeding or look online then, I mean if it's better for the baby then naturally that's what is most important, but I don't want to be droopin' (is that narcissistic or what?)

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Talking about C-sections.

What is the preferred method in Egypt, Spinal Block or General Anethesia? Or is it all dependant on what the mom-to-be wants?

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You should read about it for sure, but you will need a one-on-one supervision as soon as you deliver. Maybe you can find a lactation consultant in Cairo, but not in Shebin. Have you ever thought of delivering in Cairo? It's really way better than Shebin, Smuck.

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I've thought about it but a normal drive is roughly 45 minutes - that's not in traffic and if I'm in labor..

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You should read about it for sure, but you will need a one-on-one supervision as soon as you deliver. Maybe you can find a lactation consultant in Cairo, but not in Shebin. Have you ever thought of delivering in Cairo? It's really way better than Shebin, Smuck.

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I've thought about it but a normal drive is roughly 45 minutes - that's not in traffic and if I'm in labor..

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My hospital was 45 minutes to an hour away from my house -- with no traffic. It worked out fine, thank God. But I ended up with a scheduled c-section and was lucky enough not to go into labor before that. Perhaps you could do something like me -- find the hospital where you want to deliver, plan for that, but have a back-up hospital close to your house.

Oh, but did I mention I was scheduled on the one day there was an ice storm? We had to drive to the hospital at 5:30 in the morning, before any roads had been plowed. The doctor, who was 5 or 6 months pregnant herself, got stuck in the snow and had to dig herself out. She was late, my surgery was late. Interesting day.

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Yeah, actually it's a *classic C-section* with a vertical cut, about 6 inches from belly button down. And they actually cut an inverted T to be precise.

I had a HUGE 17 cm ovarian cyst removed right after the baby was born, which was the reason for the odd cut. I was set to go regular delivery, but at the last minute they changed their minds.

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