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quinonostante1
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I am a new member on here, I joined because I heard that there was some animosity towards other forums and some comments were being made which were upsetting. I suppose I wanted to see if it was all true.

It seems I was correctly informed. My first posting, which was completely amicable in tone and content, received a biting response and I was very quickly called "nuts", and I really can't understand why!

Can I ask, hopefully without being eaten alive, how many of you are members of Luxor4U..or have been?

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I'm not, nor have I ever been!

I am sorry you've had a bad experience in our mad house, but most people are friendly enough! Or so I think..... maybe I'm mad???

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quote:
Originally posted by soozi:

I am sorry you've had a bad experience in our mad house,

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quote:
Originally posted by quinonostante1:
Can I ask, hopefully without being eaten alive, how many of you are members of Luxor4U..or have been?

Hi Q!

Forgot my password, so joined up again today to post this. After seeing how you were treated on the other thread, I don't think I'll be posting too often somehow - just not brave enough [Eek!] [Roll Eyes]

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Lol I'm on most of them!
Started here, moved to ET but stayed here too, briefly flirted with EM, but stayed here too, followed to L4U, but stayed here too, returned to EM, but stayed here too. (ET no longer exists........ it went home!)
Currently posting here, L4U and EM, but I read others occasionally

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lol are we like, NOT supposed to know what's going on with all of these "new" forum members?? [Roll Eyes] we be stoopid ... [Razz]
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Where is the can of RAID Smuckers [Big Grin] [Roll Eyes] [Big Grin] [Roll Eyes]

Damn Sarsoor [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers:
lol are we like, NOT supposed to know what's going on with all of these "new" forum members?? [Roll Eyes] we be stoopid ... [Razz]

There's absolutely nothing going on! I forgot my password (they're not exactly memorable here!!) so had to re-register [Smile]
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it can be emailed, who were you previously?
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quote:
Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers:
it can be emailed, who were you previously?

countessa - minus the 2007 [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by countessa_2007:
quote:
Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers:
it can be emailed, who were you previously?

countessa - minus the 2007 [Smile]
[Big Grin] Hi Countessa....this is one weird place...seems you are under attack too
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Hi quinn

I am a member here, EM, EN, YE, EW, another ES, another ET and HOE [Big Grin]

Oh and I was a moderator on that other forum until I was banned and not allowed to utter its name [Razz]

And no one has actually attacked countessa, dont provoke [Wink]

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I guess asking for the can of raid yada yada is this forum's way of welcoming new or returning members then is it?

I didn't knew you when you were on L4U I don't think. I suppose the fact that you too moderated on the site you can confirm that moderators don't have access to PM's and Emails sent between members.

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yes that is the customary way to welcome a new or returning member, welcome to ES [Big Grin]

yes I moderated on that site when it was new and I had no access to PM's, however, Keefy did and read them all as he was told to do.

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Must have kept him busy then, considering how many get sent...lol
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ohhh this is getting good....
(by the way new members, it really is obvious, just drop the act...) [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers:
ohhh this is getting good....
(by the way new members, it really is obvious, just drop the act...) [Roll Eyes]

(big sigh) ACT??? [Roll Eyes]
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Actually, I can vouch for both Quinostante and Countessa. I have met both of them and they are both lovely people.

I have no problems with either of them posting, and they both have a lot to offer any board.

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quote:
Originally posted by Shareen:
Actually, I can vouch for both Quinostante and Countessa. I have met both of them and they are both lovely people.

I have no problems with either of them posting, and they both have a lot to offer any board.

ditto [Wink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Ayisha:
Hi quinn

I am a member here, EM, EN, YE, EW, another ES, another ET and HOE [Big Grin]

Oh and I was a moderator on that other forum until I was banned and not allowed to utter its name [Razz]

And no one has actually attacked countessa, dont provoke [Wink]

I can't believe any sane person would ban Ayisha from anywhere. [Eek!] You have to be kidding, Ayisha? [Razz]
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I don't whether I am banned or not. I was banned for a day then Keefy reinstated me. I didn't sign on for months then posted about ADSL on the West Bank. My post was deleted, why I have no idea and I haven't tried to sign on since.

Come on you know the PM's are read, there is a thread about it at the moment, someone complaining a PM sent to her was deleted.

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quote:
Originally posted by SayWhatYouSee:
quote:
Originally posted by Ayisha:
Hi quinn

I am a member here, EM, EN, YE, EW, another ES, another ET and HOE [Big Grin]

Oh and I was a moderator on that other forum until I was banned and not allowed to utter its name [Razz]

And no one has actually attacked countessa, dont provoke [Wink]

I can't believe any sane person would ban Ayisha from anywhere. [Eek!] You have to be kidding, Ayisha? [Razz]
yes, im a really really bad troublemaker [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
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I'm a L4U member and think it's a much friendlier site. I just have a look at this one every now and then. It's so bitchy with some of it's posts and yet some are quite good. I just don't understand what pleasure people get from pulling each other apart.
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yep pmes are great to read ...
if u understand BIATCH [Roll Eyes]

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''Can I ask, hopefully without being eaten alive, how many of you are members of Luxor4U..or have been?''

My impression of L4U's website and travel section was positive. I thought they were doing something really useful and the website looks good. Because of this, I frequently suggested visitors to a travel forum (which I used to participate in) should check the site out. The urge to defend is understandable but I question the wisdom of recent online spats and the risk it poses to established reputations. Sadly, some of the posts by L4U members have led me to question if I should cross the street rather than risk bumping into some of the contributors. [Eek!] I wish Luxor Lover a speedy recovery and hope that L4U continues to thrive by including rather than banning valuable contributions. [Cool]

Jane Akshar also has an excellent website with lots of useful information. My personal preference is for hotels, but I wouldn't hesitate to suggest visitors seeking more independence look at what 'FlatsInLuxor' have to offer. Jane's commitment and enthusiasm have impressed me greatly. I very much like her style.

You guys are so much more effective working together than as enemies and I'm sure you know this. Salaam.

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quote:
Originally posted by quinonostante1:
quote:
Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers:
ohhh this is getting good....
(by the way new members, it really is obvious, just drop the act...) [Roll Eyes]

(big sigh) ACT??? [Roll Eyes]
Dont worry quinonostante they are all quite nice on here realy and they do get locked up a bed time [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by Ayisha:
quote:
Originally posted by SayWhatYouSee:
quote:
Originally posted by Ayisha:
Hi quinn

I am a member here, EM, EN, YE, EW, another ES, another ET and HOE [Big Grin]

Oh and I was a moderator on that other forum until I was banned and not allowed to utter its name [Razz]

ditto .even worse when she has been on the funny juice and popcorn with jane.

DITTO and even worse when she is with jane drinking funny juice and eating popcorn . [Wink]

And no one has actually attacked countessa, dont provoke [Wink]

I can't believe any sane person would ban Ayisha from anywhere. [Eek!] You have to be kidding, Ayisha? [Razz]
yes, im a really really bad troublemaker [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by SayWhatYouSee:
''Can I ask, hopefully without being eaten alive, how many of you are members of Luxor4U..or have been?''

My impression of L4U's website and travel section was positive. I thought they were doing something really useful and the website looks good. Because of this, I frequently suggested visitors to a travel forum (which I used to participate in) should check the site out. The urge to defend is understandable but I question the wisdom of recent online spats and the risk it poses to established reputations. Sadly, some of the posts by L4U members have led me to question if I should cross the street rather than risk bumping into some of the contributors. [Eek!] I wish Luxor Lover a speedy recovery and hope that L4U continues to thrive by including rather than banning valuable contributions. [Cool]

Jane Akshar also has an excellent website with lots of useful information. My personal preference is for hotels, but I wouldn't hesitate to suggest visitors seeking more independence look at what 'FlatsInLuxor' have to offer. Jane's dedication, commitment and enthusiasm have impressed me greatly. I very much like her style.

You guys are so much more effective working together than as enemies and I'm sure you know this. Salaam.

thanks [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by SayWhatYouSee:

You guys are so much more effective working together than as enemies and I'm sure you know this. Salaam.

That outcome unforunately is unlikely but it is the most sensible thing that I have read in a long time.
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quote:
Originally posted by SayWhatYouSee:
I wish Luxor Lover a speedy recovery and hope that L4U continues to thrive by including rather than banning valuable contributions. [Cool]

Salaam.

Thank you for your good wishes for my speedy recovery. Good wishes have been sadly lacking on this forum as many seem to want me dead and buried.

We too hope that L4u continues to thrive and we would far rather encourage than ban. Only three or four people have been banned in more than two years. Of those four I regret losing Ayisha the most (and she knows that) because she was my friend.

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This is great, everyone is talking in a reasonable way...excellent...
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Ha ha hello Q and Countessa,loving you both,i've just popped over briefly to see whats going off LOL
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well I have sat thinking about this for 1 and half hours now and decided to post anyway.

LL the sensible thing you read from SWYS is unlikely to happen as you have on many occassions flatly refused to meet with Jane to sort this out as your intense hatred of her stands in the way.

As for your speedy recovery, you have been wished that here and other sites including EM where I myself wished you the same, there has been only 1 here that I can think you mean as 'many' and i know the story and fully understand her beef with you and why she is so upset. No one has said they wished you dead and buried so thats yet another twisted exageration on your part to gain sympathy.

Your last comment about me I will have to reply to later as I am still in shock you have actually come here and tried again to make it look like everyone else is the baddy and you are the poor victim. And NO i do not *know* that you regret losing me, its certainly not in ANY of your many emails were you say you are glad I was banned, nor is there any suggestion of sorry in the EM thread where it was all dealt with and the final truth came out after many months of your denying it ever happened.

I would also like to know where it is that anyone has accused you of *molesting young boys* you have posted in your forum, maybe I missed that part. As for the 120 plus posts *about you fired by the vitriol of 2 pathetic women* (also in your forum, same thread) is that the 2 who started the thread (which you now say are all friends) or is that meant to mean me and Kim as you are implying further on? The 2 that started the thread left it very early on and the rest was instigated by yourself and your friends. I pointed things out on there mainly on page 2 but then stopped, until I had to ask you on page 3 to not post my childrens personal information on the net. Anyone can look back on that and see who posted the most to keep it going.

So quin, I am sorry my terrible ways have now upset your nice reasonable thread and I hope I wont have to post again on this subject, but I cannot just leave it to what is implied here and have to tell the truth as it is, which is not allowed on that other site.

If LL or anyone can show me *many* who have said they want her dead and buried, or someone can show me where she was accused of *molesting young boys* here then I will of course apologize, I AM actually a very reasonable woman and have no problems admitting when I am wrong and apologizing for it.

Quin and countessa I welcome you both to ES and hope you will contribute to the more sane threads, if you can find any, and to the more silly ones too as they can also be fun. I have no problems with either of you and inshaAllah it will stay that way.

Quin again I apologize for spoiling your nice thread but in my opinion it was spoiled before my post.

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Not really worth the effort but ......

I am far from a victim and that is what upsets you and some others. You want me to be a victim and I refuse to be one. My stupidity would never allow that. I can be the evil devil incarnate and a victim at the same time.

I have been been told here that my accident was due to my evil bad karma - not to a bad driver. I am sure that all those tax evaders who were involved in car crashes would like to know that it was what they deserved.

Actually anyone who knows me well will tell you that I consider my life to have been a complete waste. I am lucky I haven't gone even more nuts. I am not the type who is ever victimised because I can deal with whatever anyone or life throws at me by ripping people off. I am a survivor and a wimp. What is so offensive about that. I cannot help it if my greed makes me feel inadequate.

Ayisha - any lines about ES have now been deleted from Luxor4u and had already been deleted before you made your post as were the nasty lines that I started about Jane on Luxor4u. If there was a reference to pathetic women it was because I hate you so much. Actually I hate most people with integrity.

I was sorry to lose your friendship and to lose you from Luxor4u but that's who I am, a loser. You resigned as a moderator a while before you were banned - unlike me you had the integrity and courage to stand up to keefy. Do you really think that the members of Luxor4u would ever tolerate keefy if they had a choice. They're like me, cowards and have no life beyond forums.

Luxor4u is criticised as being over-moderated but at least the people there know that they will never be attacked if they keep their mouths shut and kiss up to the admins - we let Jane get attacked because she's successful. That does not mean that I consider myself to be the VICTIM of abuse it simply means that I abuse whomever I want.

Victims hide away. They cannot cope. Others deals with things. I chose to pretend to go to the police when I was threatened. That does not make me a Victim and it never will.


Sorry to disappoint you. Arrogant bitch I am but a Victim - never.

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Why would my response to SWYS be construed as an invitation to open a door? I have never actually been invited to meet Jane and discuss things so how could I have ever refused. It is unlikely she will ever agree to meet me after all I've done to her. I don't blame her.
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When someone suffers from insecurities and a lack of self esteem, it can manifest itself in a number of different ways.
One is to become timid and shy and hide away from reality.
The other is to put on an act of outgoing self confidence, while using every little slight to put one's self into victim mode. "Poor me, they are being mean, they are nasty, look what they are doing to me!" This is a subconscious effort to call attention to one's self and it will hopefully bring the attention the insecure person needs to make them feel secure in who they are.
Sadly this second scenario is an endless circle. The persons insecurites will only be exacerbated by being a victim, and the need for even more attention will cause the person to give the victimisers even more ammunition to keep firing.

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quote:
Originally posted by Luxorlover:
Not really worth the effort but ......

I am far from a victim and that is what upsets you and some others. You want me to be a victim and I refuse to be one. My stupidity would never allow that. I can be the evil devil incarnate and a victim at the same time.

I have been been told here that my accident was due to my evil bad karma - not to a bad driver. I am sure that all those tax evaders who were involved in car crashes would like to know that it was what they deserved.

Actually anyone who knows me well will tell you that I consider my life to have been a complete waste. I am lucky I haven't gone even more nuts. I am not the type who is ever victimised because I can deal with whatever anyone or life throws at me by ripping people off. I am a survivor and a wimp. What is so offensive about that. I cannot help it if my greed makes me feel inadequate.

Ayisha - any lines about ES have now been deleted from Luxor4u and had already been deleted before you made your post as were the nasty lines that I started about Jane on Luxor4u. If there was a reference to pathetic women it was because I hate you so much. Actually I hate most people with integrity.

I was sorry to lose your friendship and to lose you from Luxor4u but that's who I am, a loser. You resigned as a moderator a while before you were banned - unlike me you had the integrity and courage to stand up to keefy. Do you really think that the members of Luxor4u would ever tolerate keefy if they had a choice. They're like me, cowards and have no life beyond forums.

Luxor4u is criticised as being over-moderated but at least the people there know that they will never be attacked if they keep their mouths shut and kiss up to the admins - we let Jane get attacked because she's successful. That does not mean that I consider myself to be the VICTIM of abuse it simply means that I abuse whomever I want.

Victims hide away. They cannot cope. Others deals with things. I chose to pretend to go to the police when I was threatened. That does not make me a Victim and it never will.


Sorry to disappoint you. Arrogant bitch I am but a Victim - never.

thanks for being mostly truthful but i did not resign before I was banned as you well know. I could dig out the emails but i cant be bothered. The story unfolded on EM a while ago and those that are important to me know the truth.
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Some time ago Keefy asked me to met with you and I agreed but said you would never agree as you hated me so much. I still don't know why but your comment above about me being succesful might explain it. Keefy never came back to me so I presume you refused to meet.

It is so nice to see you telling the truth at long last.

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Just seen this (yes been so busy) but here we go again LL the victim same old story, never changes and yes i have said in previous threads that i really wish it had been her neck she had broke and not her ankle???
So sue me!

IF ANYONE ON HERE HAD HAD TO GO THROUGH WHAT I HAVE WITH THE BULLSHIT AND ALL HER LIES , then you would know what i feel towards this evil hardfaced lying bitch.....

Contessa and Q dont come on here to try and cause trouble you are ITS friend now but just wait..

You know nothing of the real LL keefy does and it will show in the end he will finish with her when he sees the light i know him.

AND IF YOU WANT REAL PROOF JUST GO BACK TO UP TO 4 YEARS AND YOU WILL SEE THREADS FROM OTHERS THAT SHE AS TRIED TO DESTROY AND HURT AND LIE TO.
so dont come on here with your crap and say this forum is not like L4U of course its not thats what makes it different.
Stay there as far as im concerned
Just dont involve yourselves in things that you know nothing about.
i will never like that women as long as i live


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PS
She lied on L4U about the police coming to my home they never came she even got the wrong station and said it was Rothwell i live in Holbeck area???why lie
what does she gain??
she as serious mental health issues
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Whoa!

[Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!]

This is a wild thread.

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oh i cant believe people are posting this kinda ****..sounds all crazy and a bit biarzze to me.Its acceptable to talk about one self but when another person is involved.Then it gets nasty and evil.. [Eek!]
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what es EM ? [Razz]
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EM is EgyptMad.com
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It seems I was correctly informed. My first posting, which was completely amicable in tone and content, received a biting response and I was very quickly called "nuts", and I really can't understand why!

Hello

Sorry if you were called a "nuts " in your first posting.
By the way which posting are you refering to ? because I can see on your " recent post view" that this post, is the only one you have written.
So I was just wondering in which post you have been called a nuts.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ayisha:
Hi quinn

I am a member here, EM, EN, YE, EW, another ES, another ET and HOE [Big Grin]

Oh and I was a moderator on that other forum until I was banned and not allowed to utter its name [Razz]

And no one has actually attacked countessa, dont provoke [Wink]

BAD GIRL [Big Grin] [Cool]
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