Not been into this forum for long, but been much upset about many facts and sympathised with much of stories of heart break but still for all those who suffered or r to suffer and hopefully no one would suffer, for them just some note in here

Well first of all as u all know our culture is much different from much of urs and its normal to find variations among every place in social, cultural, and in all ways of living but above all its no execuse...

U know heer in egypt for a man to get to much get involved with a woman and express love, its not an easy matter, it needs commitment and readiness to share all with her..Its not simply a matter of days to fall in love with someone or even a matter of days but it takes much longer and for the religeous build up of our society and our traditions and cultural habits, a man would never express love to someone unless he is quite sure of his feelings and ready to progress into a serious relation..Yes its true they could meet, talk and express all but within limits and for a woman to get sure of someones feeling it takes some time, to study him well enough and be sure of all..And its normal that the word " love" isnt trigerred in a hurry but after some time of settlement of feelings..

The long way it takes, never lets any man who is not commited or consistent takes it any further and so, u find only those who really are interested in the woman to go through that journey and it has its owm beauty in our sense..

Its not of our customs to merely express interest in someone so easily and the approach is usually an indication of how serious u r..its different from what u all might have been raised up on in ur cultures..

Many of those men in resorts or who work along with tourists, are somewhat easy going in someway they find how easy it is to express interest and find a feedback and some of u women might believe its somewhat serious enough whats being said..

The way family is, and the pedigree of ur family and teh way u have been brought up and the educaion u recieved and ur philosophy matters much when someone is to engage to someone and to be considered a soul mate, u all dont know much about these men and i wouldnt say the majority of these men are flirts and well known in much of our egyptian culture as flirts and iam not generalising but its a fact and even when we were to consider delinquencies in our egyptian community we do referr to them as a resource for that..Just an example the latest Records of HIV infection in egypt which is usually kept a secret for some backward reason, but anyway being a doctor i was involved i na campaign 2 years ago and also have my own ways for such information, A community medicine study was done and in it the majority or even 83% of the dead zone is concentrated along sea resorts and i wouldn tsay numbers but unfortunately its stunning..i feel a pitty when am saying this but the truth is always the best..Moreover much delinquencies exist there..have u ever asked urself why? i dont think so, but for sure most of those women with heart breaks never came to know much about their partners, its true honesty is a gold rule but u should always be cautious..

The easiness at whihc a relation could start and the carelessness of such men and the drift away from religeous teachings and many other factors i have no time to mention now could be a way..To be honest with u many of the men ur talking about if they propose for an egyptian woman, i guarantee u 70% will be rejected for some reason or another and thats from a real life experience..

Well iam not blaming any of u for the easiness u allow a relation to start with, but believe me a relation to be a relation needs timeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, and time tells all

I have much to say later on but hopefully for all u may god bless u and rectify the paths of evberyone and always take it a rule , to be more patient with any relation

And God bless our beautiful Egypt

ciao

I like most of ur posts and the way u analyse things but try to share some opinion too about this and take care..

The doctor just can't get over broken hearts .....

i like the words alot i do not understand all of the words but i know the concept. very good

Well, Katia, he will not be able to help you over the Internet.

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Originally posted by EgyptianDoc77:
Hey

I like most of ur posts and the way u analyse things but try to share some opinion too about this and take care..

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i ask him because iam also in cairo and because i find good attitude. i not have long time in cairo and also he tell me i can ask my problem. i ask hospital and i have medicine but i want his notice

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Originally posted by Katiapolska:
wowwwww
it iz filsopher not doctor

i like the words alot i do not understand all of the words but i know the concept. very good

i hope to help me with skin problem
katia

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Hi katia
i think i replied u over the other thread that ur welcome but i really cant diagnose a case over internet and specially in dermatology and skin disorders we need much to spot diagnose coz of much similar conditions. I have no clue about ur problem but i already told u ur most welcome and go ahead with what u want.. I could try to figure out whats ur condition or if u already said u been medicated u could ask any opinion u want but still i cant diagnose over internet and if i give u an opinion it would be unfair enough but lets try, am not that bad
And by the way if u seek any medical help i would referr u to any of my dads private clinics if thats close to u, he is a professor of dermatology at universty and his clinics , one at downtown and one at heliopolis and iam there twice weekly for assistance and if u need a hospital visit ur most welcome too.

if the places r far away from ur reach i can recommend u any of my professors clinics nearby u..

but sorry i cant promise i would diagnose u over internet.

Best of luck and nighty

iam sorry i make problem for you, i have from 7days red skin dots and i rub them and it first time. i work in maadi and live in maadi, i go to hospital and i see the doctor and he say its no problem, he gave me (Telfast180mg) and sayd no problem. i also still rub it and afraid it is bad.

thank you and can i have email of you and do you have mobile?
i write bad englich but i speak good
thank you very much. and i dont know i work in no sun, is this from sun?
you are nice gentle thank you

I have a horrible feeling that this maybe happening with many Egyptian women as well and that is a disaster.

With all this sweet talk I bet many of these holiday relationships the women don't insist on sefe sex. Nor do they take an Aids test before they stop using condoms. Also a lot of the older women have no need for contraception. I feel it is a time bomb for Egypt.

I am aware of one man who has three marriages his Egyptian wife, his French wife and a gay man. None of these people know about the other.

Is the government proposing to do anything about it?

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Originally posted by EgyptianDoc77:
Evening to everyone

Not been into this forum for long, but been much upset about many facts and sympathised with much of stories of heart break but still for all those who suffered or r to suffer and hopefully no one would suffer, for them just some note in here

Well first of all as u all know our culture is much different from much of urs and its normal to find variations among every place in social, cultural, and in all ways of living but above all its no execuse...

U know heer in egypt for a man to get to much get involved with a woman and express love, its not an easy matter, it needs commitment and readiness to share all with her..Its not simply a matter of days to fall in love with someone or even a matter of days but it takes much longer and for the religeous build up of our society and our traditions and cultural habits, a man would never express love to someone unless he is quite sure of his feelings and ready to progress into a serious relation..Yes its true they could meet, talk and express all but within limits and for a woman to get sure of someones feeling it takes some time, to study him well enough and be sure of all..And its normal that the word " love" isnt trigerred in a hurry but after some time of settlement of feelings..

The long way it takes, never lets any man who is not commited or consistent takes it any further and so, u find only those who really are interested in the woman to go through that journey and it has its owm beauty in our sense..

Its not of our customs to merely express interest in someone so easily and the approach is usually an indication of how serious u r..its different from what u all might have been raised up on in ur cultures..

Many of those men in resorts or who work along with tourists, are somewhat easy going in someway they find how easy it is to express interest and find a feedback and some of u women might believe its somewhat serious enough whats being said..

The way family is, and the pedigree of ur family and teh way u have been brought up and the educaion u recieved and ur philosophy matters much when someone is to engage to someone and to be considered a soul mate, u all dont know much about these men and i wouldnt say the majority of these men are flirts and well known in much of our egyptian culture as flirts and iam not generalising but its a fact and even when we were to consider delinquencies in our egyptian community we do referr to them as a resource for that..Just an example the latest Records of HIV infection in egypt which is usually kept a secret for some backward reason, but anyway being a doctor i was involved i na campaign 2 years ago and also have my own ways for such information, A community medicine study was done and in it the majority or even 83% of the dead zone is concentrated along sea resorts and i wouldn tsay numbers but unfortunately its stunning..i feel a pitty when am saying this but the truth is always the best..Moreover much delinquencies exist there..have u ever asked urself why? i dont think so, but for sure most of those women with heart breaks never came to know much about their partners, its true honesty is a gold rule but u should always be cautious..

The easiness at whihc a relation could start and the carelessness of such men and the drift away from religeous teachings and many other factors i have no time to mention now could be a way..To be honest with u many of the men ur talking about if they propose for an egyptian woman, i guarantee u 70% will be rejected for some reason or another and thats from a real life experience..

Well iam not blaming any of u for the easiness u allow a relation to start with, but believe me a relation to be a relation needs timeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, and time tells all

I have much to say later on but hopefully for all u may god bless u and rectify the paths of evberyone and always take it a rule , to be more patient with any relation

And God bless our beautiful Egypt

ciao

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Cheers

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Originally posted by akshar:
What you had to say was very interesting and I must admit I have been concerned about the HIV/Aids situation for some time. I remember reading about a case in Greece where the holiday romeo infected countless women and one English woman took him to court for attempted murder but what I found the sadest thing was that he had a Greek wife who had no idea about any of this and of course she was infected.

I have a horrible feeling that this maybe happening with many Egyptian women as well and that is a disaster.

With all this sweet talk I bet many of these holiday relationships the women don't insist on sefe sex. Nor do they take an Aids test before they stop using condoms. Also a lot of the older women have no need for contraception. I feel it is a time bomb for Egypt.

I am aware of one man who has three marriages his Egyptian wife, his French wife and a gay man. None of these people know about the other.

Is the government proposing to do anything about it?

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Dear Akshar,

I need to ask you something very important about your post, can you please give me a private mail where I can write to you.
Thanks.

Any information about HIV/Aids exsistense in Egypt?

What happens to these people if they are found infected? I heard before tourists/foreigners have to immediate leave Egypt. But what about Egyptian natives who have nowhere else to go? What is happening to them? I am sure they get putted into closed installations to make sure they don't transmit the disease any further.

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Originally posted by EgyptianDoc77:

And by the way if u seek any medical help i would referr u to any of my dads private clinics if thats close to u, he is a professor of dermatology at universty and his clinics , one at downtown and one at heliopolis and iam there twice weekly for assistance and if u need a hospital visit ur most welcome too.

if the places r far away from ur reach i can recommend u any of my professors clinics nearby u..

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Hallo EgyptianDoc77

where is hospital you at and what days are you in clinic? and you did not answer question i ask yestrday of mobile and mail

thank you

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Originally posted by karaba:
Dear Akshar,

I need to ask you something very important about your post, can you please give me a private mail where I can write to you.
Thanks.

Karaba

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you can get me on jane @ flatsinluxor.co.uk

remove the spaves if you cut and paste it is done to fool the spammers who look for emails addresses on forums like these with automatic tools

sorry katia for replying u late, but been busy this afternoon

egydoc77@yahoo.com

take care

I have seen your email adress here, may i use it please? i think we can be good friends, we share many things in common.
May i use the adres and my email is
isabellepellier2000@yahoo.com
i have yahoo messenger also with same id

i hope you answer me soon

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Originally posted by Isabelle:
Hi Egyptiandoc77

I have seen your email adress here, may i use it please? i think we can be good friends, we share many things in common.
May i use the adres and my email is
isabellepellier2000@yahoo.com
i have yahoo messenger also with same id

i hope you answer me soon

Isabelle

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hi isabelle
thanks doctor for ur concern and inshallah if god may we could be good friends. iam posting my email adress agin for u
egydoc77@yahoo.com and i noted down urs. Iam not a frequent chatter on yahoo messenger though and i prefer email besides i do post some stuff here whenever i get a bit of time if am online doing my research stuff..
have visited ur country 3 times before lastly 2002 and iam in love with France, and whenever iam to be in europe i usually start with france even for a couple of days then move about, been allover from paris, dijon, st-etienne, marseille, lyon and inshallah planning to spend my honeymoon overthere too. its a real charm and beauty in all ways, may god bless ur country for u..but unfortunately havent been to ur city Montpellier before but i the football club of the city aint doing much good this season hahahahaha...

take care of u doc and hopefully ull enjoy our beautiful egypt when u come

a plus et prends soin de toi
ciao

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Originally posted by Tigerlily:

Well, Doc, I guess you have a full clinic soon..........

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Egydoc available 24/7 at disposal of his ES mates and may god never let anyone suffer anything
be safe

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Originally posted by gossip:
what do u expect from an egyptian pimp???
a 27 yrs kido, what do u expect of an egyptian radical pimp doc

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CHEERS egyptiandoc77

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Originally posted by EgyptianDoc77:
Evening to everyone

love, its not an easy matter, it needs commitment and readiness to share all with her

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Originally posted by blondy25:
doctor, that is true but why people dont become honest from the beginning? i try to find an answer but its difficult. why to be dishonest and liars?
hope you share the opinion with me
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hi blondy25
i will try to share that with u hopefully tonight,
be safe

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Originally posted by EgyptianDoc77:
... iam in love with France,..........planning to spend my honeymoon overthere too.

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You are getting married?

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Originally posted by catatom:
You are getting married?

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hi catatom

no iam not yet but its a wish i mean and inshallah may it come true

take care

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Originally posted by EgyptianDoc77:
hi blondy25
i will try to share that with u hopefully tonight,
be safe

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Originally posted by EgyptianDoc77:
Evening to everyone

Not been into this forum for long, but been much upset about many facts and sympathised with much of stories of heart break but still for all those who suffered or r to suffer and hopefully no one would suffer, for them just some note in here

Well first of all as u all know our culture is much different from much of urs and its normal to find variations among every place in social, cultural, and in all ways of living but above all its no execuse...

U know heer in egypt for a man to get to much get involved with a woman and express love, its not an easy matter, it needs commitment and readiness to share all with her..Its not simply a matter of days to fall in love with someone or even a matter of days but it takes much longer and for the religeous build up of our society and our traditions and cultural habits, a man would never express love to someone unless he is quite sure of his feelings and ready to progress into a serious relation..Yes its true they could meet, talk and express all but within limits and for a woman to get sure of someones feeling it takes some time, to study him well enough and be sure of all..And its normal that the word " love" isnt trigerred in a hurry but after some time of settlement of feelings..

The long way it takes, never lets any man who is not commited or consistent takes it any further and so, u find only those who really are interested in the woman to go through that journey and it has its owm beauty in our sense..

Its not of our customs to merely express interest in someone so easily and the approach is usually an indication of how serious u r..its different from what u all might have been raised up on in ur cultures..

Many of those men in resorts or who work along with tourists, are somewhat easy going in someway they find how easy it is to express interest and find a feedback and some of u women might believe its somewhat serious enough whats being said..

The way family is, and the pedigree of ur family and teh way u have been brought up and the educaion u recieved and ur philosophy matters much when someone is to engage to someone and to be considered a soul mate, u all dont know much about these men and i wouldnt say the majority of these men are flirts and well known in much of our egyptian culture as flirts and iam not generalising but its a fact and even when we were to consider delinquencies in our egyptian community we do referr to them as a resource for that..Just an example the latest Records of HIV infection in egypt which is usually kept a secret for some backward reason, but anyway being a doctor i was involved i na campaign 2 years ago and also have my own ways for such information, A community medicine study was done and in it the majority or even 83% of the dead zone is concentrated along sea resorts and i wouldn tsay numbers but unfortunately its stunning..i feel a pitty when am saying this but the truth is always the best..Moreover much delinquencies exist there..have u ever asked urself why? i dont think so, but for sure most of those women with heart breaks never came to know much about their partners, its true honesty is a gold rule but u should always be cautious..

The easiness at whihc a relation could start and the carelessness of such men and the drift away from religeous teachings and many other factors i have no time to mention now could be a way..To be honest with u many of the men ur talking about if they propose for an egyptian woman, i guarantee u 70% will be rejected for some reason or another and thats from a real life experience..

Well iam not blaming any of u for the easiness u allow a relation to start with, but believe me a relation to be a relation needs timeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, and time tells all

I have much to say later on but hopefully for all u may god bless u and rectify the paths of evberyone and always take it a rule , to be more patient with any relation

And God bless our beautiful Egypt

ciao

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thats very very interesting and gives much information but i would like to ask you something!!
why are most men in this resorts area like this? i thankfully wait your answer

Wishing you a greater love, next time around, with a very nice Egyptian man!

Monica

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Originally posted by anuna:
I was in love with an Egyptian man. It took us three years to get to know eachother and become eachother best friend. I was too young to marry, not ready for many reasons. I got married because of the community I lived in said I had to no matter what. I was so pressured. NOw I do not know where he is. I assume in California practicing dentistry. Had I waited and had the courage to stand up to these zealots that were pressuring me at 18 to marry... had I waited a year or two more... the relationship may still be there. Now I try to write with no reply- I write his mom in Alex. to ask her how she is and to tell him to write me, I write his dad to ask how he is in SA and ask him to plead him to at least write me.
To end a relationship like the way I had to at that time in my life- was really sad. It did not matter how much I loved him and he me- I needed to grow up and mature more. I was too used to being babied and treated like a princess from all my friends because I was and am greatly loved...
However; now this has happened years ago and I have never forgotten. I feel terrible about how immature I was, how insecure I was and I realize all the wrong I did by divorcing him. The only thing to apologize and make amends and now that can not be either because no one will tell him about me and he maybe does not want to talk to me. He is probably married and happy now in his life... and here I am lamenting for the friendship, good times and love we shared.
I only hope that one day I can have that again... and now that I am 25, getting a BS in Accounting very soon, have two other degrees and medical experience, I am a mom as well because I tried to remarry someone 18 years my senior and it did not work...we were not compatible (this time he filed the divorce) he wanted to party and cheat with young girls... and I had to be home slave for him...
not a good life to walk into... learned my lessons...
now looking for that special someone to share my life with... Istill have the same spunk I always did... I am only wiser and know how to respect love, and fuel love.

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Originally posted by anuna:
thanks Monica!

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oh thanks for sharing the experience, and i wish you a happy life. life must continue

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Originally posted by anuna:
I was in love with an Egyptian man. It took us three years to get to know eachother and become eachother best friend. I was too young to marry, not ready for many reasons. I got married because of the community I lived in said I had to no matter what. I was so pressured. NOw I do not know where he is. I assume in California practicing dentistry. Had I waited and had the courage to stand up to these zealots that were pressuring me at 18 to marry... had I waited a year or two more... the relationship may still be there. Now I try to write with no reply- I write his mom in Alex. to ask her how she is and to tell him to write me, I write his dad to ask how he is in SA and ask him to plead him to at least write me.
To end a relationship like the way I had to at that time in my life- was really sad. It did not matter how much I loved him and he me- I needed to grow up and mature more. I was too used to being babied and treated like a princess from all my friends because I was and am greatly loved...
However; now this has happened years ago and I have never forgotten. I feel terrible about how immature I was, how insecure I was and I realize all the wrong I did by divorcing him. The only thing to apologize and make amends and now that can not be either because no one will tell him about me and he maybe does not want to talk to me. He is probably married and happy now in his life... and here I am lamenting for the friendship, good times and love we shared.
I only hope that one day I can have that again... and now that I am 25, getting a BS in Accounting very soon, have two other degrees and medical experience, I am a mom as well because I tried to remarry someone 18 years my senior and it did not work...we were not compatible (this time he filed the divorce) he wanted to party and cheat with young girls... and I had to be home slave for him...
not a good life to walk into... learned my lessons...
now looking for that special someone to share my life with... Istill have the same spunk I always did... I am only wiser and know how to respect love, and fuel love.

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