It seems that your views are based on the same comments of a few posters on this site that have had bad experiences with men in tourist areas or men on the internet. Maybe you should redirect your question to them , as they appear to be the ones with the bad experiences. Ask them what makes them travel so far to look for love, why are they searching for true love on the internet? What makes them think that some men that so happen to be from Egypt are the only con artists on the internet.

I have 3 brothers, and several male cousins, and I can say that they are all very faithful and loyal to their wives. And none of them work in touristic areas.

Most orfi marriages are secretive, and the question should be to ones with all this knowledge of orfi but still engage in the practice, even if you know how a real marriage works. They have contact with their embassies and they are smart enough to research and find this website, but not smart enough to research the legal guidelines of marriage? If they do, then they will likely find out if the man is already legally married or not. And they make the choice to believe the man, and make the excuse to become his second wife without first checking to see how the first wife feels about it.

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Originally posted by Haqikah:
Hi, I think the question you are asking is more directed to women that live in small villages that probably do not have access to the internet and are probably not reading this. It is quite bothersome for foreigners to keep having affairs with touristic type men, and think this small minority of men speak for a country of over 70 million. What makes you conclude that egyptian men aren't faithful to their wives in general.

It seems that your views are based on the same comments of a few posters on this site that have had bad experiences with men in tourist areas or men on the internet. Maybe you should redirect your question to them , as they appear to be the ones with the bad experiences. Ask them what makes them travel so far to look for love, why are they searching for true love on the internet? What makes them think that some men that so happen to be from Egypt are the only con artists on the internet.

I have 3 brothers, and several male cousins, and I can say that they are all very faithful and loyal to their wives. And none of them work in touristic areas.

Most orfi marriages are secretive, and the question should be to ones with all this knowledge of orfi but still engage in the practice, even if you know how a real marriage works. They have contact with their embassies and they are smart enough to research and find this website, but not smart enough to research the legal guidelines of marriage? If they do, then they will likely find out if the man is already legally married or not. And they make the choice to believe the man, and make the excuse to become his second wife without first checking to see how the first wife feels about it.

So please stop pointing the finger at Egyptian women, as many do not have enough knowledge of chat room affairs, to go snooping into their husbands accounts to see if he's being faithful on the internet, and they do not follow thier husbands to work to see if he's having affairs with his touristic customers. And most of them don't go around checking his cell phone calls. Some of the worst victims don't even speak English at all to even know what the conversation is about. Most are more victims of his cheating, than the other women that have been lied to. Blame the men that have hurt you, not their real wives, as if they are part of the scam.

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it is a sad story indeed, but not this little love story , it is what balk angle is thinking, she thinks that all Egyptian guys are out to take advantage of non Egyptian women, and they are cheaters by nature.

Black angle you hear allot of stories about Egyptian guys leaving the foreign girls they make fall in love with them < or how they took advantage of them and lied to them < but you never hear about a perfect relationship, because those who are happy don’t think of their happiness as a problem they need to share with others, and you don’t hear stories about non Egyptian guys , because this is an Egyptian site . An Egyptian man is just like any other, and a foreigner woman is just like an Egyptian one, they have there emotions, they have there little problems , obligation , values, and they all are equally responsible for all our actions, in general, some men are good and some are bad you are just in the middle of a medium that would show only specific type of sad stories.
Women in general when they feel a loss they feel obligated to chare their experience with everyone, in a way to make sure it doesn’t happen to another poor girl, but when Egyptian men are in the same bad situation, With their very high level of self pride they think they are the only stupid person who would fall into such a mistake or lack of judgment, and feel no need to worn anyone else, because no one else could do the same mistake again.

There are Egyptian women everywhere.
Do you work in the private sector or the public sector? do you read the papers and notice the names of some journalists? are you aware that Egyptian women are in Magless el shura, do you watch satelite Tv and other channels, do you know that some Egyptian women are Professors and some are Ambassadors to Egypt, do you know who are the people at the head of Human Rights? do you know who are the business women of Egypt?
have you been to Cairo University lately, Ain Shams, the AUC?

In villages, and in some extremely conservative homes, Egyptian women fit the profile you are describing..but in the City of Cairo and Alexandria and Port Said, and El mansoura and..and..and..women are independant and some fat7een beyut ya basha!

As per the question on this thread about how Egyptian women deal with their cheating husbands, wether in the tourist sector or other, just for your information.. and if I am offending anyone:so sorry, but I am stating facts related to our Egyptian culture...

Egyptian women consider foreigners that marry their husbands ORFI as second class citizens. The ones that find out and accept, have a Ph.D in IGNORANCE...it is unfortunate.
What do you expect when there is population of 78 Million?

But, educated women that discover their husbands infidelities usually get a divorce...the ones that stay for society purposes or what not, find it convenient and just keep their privileges as wives.
It is their business not anyone else's, exactly like in different parts of the world..there are ignorant women all over the globe.

Do not feel sorry for Egyptian women, rather, feel sorry for yourselves for having made the wrong choices.

Good Luck!

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The questin put forth in this thread is simple: How do egyptian women react when they find out their husbands are having affairs with foreign women??
Most of the time the Egyptian women simply do not react. Egyptian society is male dominated;no secret! Men have freedom. Women do not. Proof: only 3% of work force in Sharm is female. Only 18% of labor force in Egypt is female. (Sorce: Ministry of Labor Annual Report.)
Plus: most Egyptian women in working class Egypt are financially dependent on the husband. So they either accept his behavior or pack up and go home.
Only women from wealthy families or financially dependent women can really oppose their husbands. And how many egyptian females are wealthy or independent?? Not a lot!!
C'mon guys. Let's face the facts. Most egyptian women are helpless. Men can get away with anything. I come from an egyptian family, and the freedom given to my sister was one tenth of my freedom....Walk down Tahrir square (Cairo) after 10:00 pm and you would think the population is 100% male!The women are locked up at home. I'd be surprised if anyone denies that simple obseravation.

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Originally posted by EgyptianGuy:
The questin put forth in this thread is simple: How do egyptian women react when they find out their husbands are having affairs with foreign women??
Most of the time the Egyptian women simply do not react. Egyptian society is male dominated;no secret! Men have freedom. Women do not. Proof: only 3% of work force in Sharm is female. Only 18% of labor force in Egypt is female. (Sorce: Ministry of Labor Annual Report.)
Plus: most Egyptian women in working class Egypt are financially dependent on the husband. So they either accept his behavior or pack up and go home.
Only women from wealthy families or financially dependent women can really oppose their husbands. And how many egyptian females are wealthy or independent?? Not a lot!!
C'mon guys. Let's face the facts. Most egyptian women are helpless. Men can get away with anything. I come from an egyptian family, and the freedom given to my sister was one tenth of my freedom....Walk down Tahrir square (Cairo) after 10:00 pm and you would think the population is 100% male!The women are locked up at home. I'd be surprised if anyone denies that simple obseravation.

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So no we have one that gathers their information from labor stats? Well if you gathered you information correctly you would know that Sharm is a resort town, surrounded by native Bedouin tribes. The workforce there consist of people that have travelled for work from all over Egypt and mn of them live in government homes provided for them.

Please stop using resort towns and tourists spots to formulate your overall opinions.
Have you did any research to find out how many men have actually have affairs wth foreigners, then further that research to find out how man of their wives know about it, the formulate your findings. Otherwise you're just creating stereotypes based on a few peoples bad experiences. The same few people that keep coming back time and time again, mind you.

Like I said before, learn the language, go to the small towns and villages these men are from and ask their wives how they feel if you'r really concerned. A number of these young men aren't even married to locals, some have several foreign orfi wives spread across the globe. But these are the men in the touristic towns with their bad influences and this is obviously their cheap way of making a living.

Travel to Lisht, Al-Wasta, Alexandria, Fayoum City, Quasr Quaram, Biba, Siwa Oasis, Kom Ombo, Benha, Tanta.. the list goes on, you will find hard working decent men trying to provide for their families, and loyal to their wives..

Yes these are the small towns in Egypt with no significant amount of tourist, and I think they would be devastated to know they are being categorized as unfaithful, gigolo scam artists. Please try to stop lumping all Egyptian men in with these tourist types. I'm sorry you were hurt, but it's not fair to the rest of the country. Thank you.

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Originally posted by esposible:

I've walked down tahrir square after 10 pm and I saw lot of egyptian women out there in groups and men with their families including their wifes.

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Okay Monica and esposible....I see what u mean...but what's the ratio of men to women on the street after 10 pm??
monica, what's the ratio of male to female professionals in egypt? ..Of course i know there egyptian women who are members of parliament, and journalists and doctors etc..but are they 50% of the MPs/jounalists/doctors??
Are 50% of cars driven by women??
Are 50% of Cairo University professors women?
I have complete respect and admiration 4 egyptian women, and i do hope that one day they will really have a better position and more freedom in our great country..

The martiarchical culture in Saeed[Upper Egypt] is mainly due to nomadic bedouin influces upon the rural people. Both rural Christians and Muslims are heavily martiarchical which leads me to believe it has everything to do with Arab influence in Upper Egypt.

In the meantime here is a very interesting link for you. http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/eg.html

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Originally posted by EgyptianGuy:
Okay Monica and esposible....I see what u mean...but what's the ratio of men to women on the street after 10 pm??
monica, what's the ratio of male to female professionals in egypt? ..Of course i know there egyptian women who are members of parliament, and journalists and doctors etc..but are they 50% of the MPs/jounalists/doctors??
Are 50% of cars driven by women??
Are 50% of Cairo University professors women?
I have complete respect and admiration 4 egyptian women, and i do hope that one day they will really have a better position and more freedom in our great country..

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Ladies, if Egyptian men are so horrible, go to some other country.

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Originally posted by EgyptianGuy:
The questin put forth in this thread is simple: How do egyptian women react when they find out their husbands are having affairs with foreign women??
Most of the time the Egyptian women simply do not react. Egyptian society is male dominated;no secret! Men have freedom. Women do not. Proof: only 3% of work force in Sharm is female. Only 18% of labor force in Egypt is female. (Sorce: Ministry of Labor Annual Report.)
Plus: most Egyptian women in working class Egypt are financially dependent on the husband. So they either accept his behavior or pack up and go home.
Only women from wealthy families or financially dependent women can really oppose their husbands. And how many egyptian females are wealthy or independent?? Not a lot!!
C'mon guys. Let's face the facts. Most egyptian women are helpless. Men can get away with anything. I come from an egyptian family, and the freedom given to my sister was one tenth of my freedom....Walk down Tahrir square (Cairo) after 10:00 pm and you would think the population is 100% male!The women are locked up at home. I'd be surprised if anyone denies that simple obseravation.

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You amaze me, EgyptianGuy, to see your country with the eyes of a foreigner and even admitting it without finding excuses or any kind of explanation.

I tell you only this : before you speak is better you think very well what you tell, and if you are not able understand what the people write, is better you stay in silence !!!!!
I want to make clear something :

1 I'm not razzist, never my have been this,and if you want to know, I divide my house n city where I work with women of Camerum.

2 never i put pictur my ex man in neither forum, so I think you not able see who is that make this.

3 my story can to be patetic but there are so much story as mine....so i don't know at this point if is my story patetic or are patetic much egyptian boys.

This is all from my part and is not important what do you think but I repet you, before you tell that i'm razzist and that I put picture man on forums, read very well what you read and think what you tell....don't use your mounth anly because you have !!!!!

I tell you only this : (before you speak is better you think very well what you tell)

OR WHAT?

(and if you are not able understand what the people write, is better you stay in silence !!!!!)

I UNDERSTAND YOU VERY WELL AND WHAT YOU REALLY ARE

( want to make clear something):

NOT INTRESTED

( I'm not razzist, never my have been this,and if you want to know, I divide my house n city where I work with women of Camerum.)

YOU ARE BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING HUGE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ALL EGYPTIAN MEN

( never i put pictur my ex man in neither forum, so I think you not able see who is that make this)

THAT IS A FACT AND YOU KNOW YOU DID SO DON'T TRY TO DENY IT

(3 my story can to be patetic but there are so much story as mine....so i don't know at this point if is my story patetic or are patetic much egyptian boys.)

IF YOU DONT KNOW...... LET ME TELL YOU... IT IS YOU WHO IS PATHETIC

(This is all from my part and is not important what do you think but I repet you, before you tell that i'm razzist and that I put picture man on forums, read very well what you read and think what you tell....don't use your mounth anly because you have !!!!! )

I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK OF WHAT I THINK TOO. YOU ARE USING YOUR MOUTH JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONE... NOT ME

(Have a nice day.)

ARE ALL YOU

Please do not think Egyptian woman are any different to other women and Egyptian men are no different to any other men, there are good and bad everywhere and I can testify to that.