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Originally posted by aicha:
What about army in egypt? How long does it takes and what can we do to avoid going to army?

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Originally posted by aicha:
What about army in egypt? How long does it takes and what can we do to avoid going to army?

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Its a year long draft. Most young men must. Once in a great while the Misryan army meets its quota and then excuses thousands of draftees. If you have some 'grande' degree like a medical degree you must serve in a remote village or hospital residency.

Even a massive car accident cannot clear you completely. Oh bowleggedness will get you disqualified. Maybe herpes or syphallis. They will forcefully divorse you from your spouse if he's up for the draft, if you are foreign. Because this can be a ploy to avoid military service. So the army isn't stupid.

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Originally posted by sonomod:
Its a year long draft. Most young men must. Once in a great while the Misryan army meets its quota and then excuses thousands of draftees. If you have some 'grande' degree like a medical degree you must serve in a remote village or hospital residency.

Even a massive car accident cannot clear you completely. Oh bowleggedness will get you disqualified. Maybe herpes or syphallis. They will forcefully divorse you from your spouse if he's up for the draft, if you are foreign. Because this can be a ploy to avoid military service. So the army isn't stupid.

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Depending on your level of education is dependent on how long you serve.

3 years is the ma

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Originally posted by aicha:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sonomod:
I'm sorry but my english isn't good enough to understand everything... What is bowleggedness? And what do you mean by the second part of your answer? You mean that a marriage with a foreign woman does not fire you from army or something like that?

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Bowleggedness is when you stand straight and your legs have too much space between them. Opposite of pigeontoed.

Sometimes a Misryan draftee gets it into his head that if he marries a foreigner he will be excused from military service. It works in Libya or if you are born in a country like USA to libyan parents, then they excuse you from the draft.

They don't fire you from the Army. They just deport the woman and won't acknowledge the marriage. He is drafted anyway and might serve in a more extreme form of military service. Kinda of a punishment.

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Originally posted by Ingrid:
Do you have to go in army 1 time or do you have to go more than once? And till what age?

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Originally posted by aicha:
What about army in egypt? How long does it takes and what can we do to avoid going to army?

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Let the man be a man and do his duty to his country. His sons will look up to him one day and he will be a much better husband for it.

newcomer
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Registered: Jun 2002 posted 25 February 2004 12:22 AM

Hi shannierae!
Why not do a search on the site as this subject has been discussed several times, and then if you still have any questions come back again.
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karinfarid
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as far as I know, an Egypt. man as long as he is in the Army, is not allowed to marry any foreign woman, but this was a few years ago and maybe has changed?
I hope somebody else can tell you,
all the best, Karin
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shannierae
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newcomer.. I didn't ask for a curt reply from anyone. This is a legimate question. And for your information, I have searched the site for these answers. And I have come to this site many times before I ever joined. If loving an Egyptian man makes me act the way a few of you do on this site. Then maybe I want no part of them!!! Because some on this site.. I think have gotten their hides burned by an Egyptian man, and let me tell you.. I have dated a few men from other part of the earth. They are all the same, unless you are fortunate enough to find yourself an intelligent American man which outshines them all.
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Originally posted by newcomer:
Hi shannierae!
Why not do a search on the site as this subject has been discussed several times, and then if you still have any questions come back again.

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shannierae
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Registered: Feb 2004 posted 25 February 2004 12:27 PM

Karin, Thanks for your reply. I guess the only one that will give me a reply is a man, since it seems some women in here have a sore tail. :P
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Originally posted by karinfarid:
as far as I know, an Egypt. man as long as he is in the Army, is not allowed to marry any foreign woman, but this was a few years ago and maybe has changed?
I hope somebody else can tell you,
all the best, Karin

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newcomer
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Hi shannierae!
Sorry you misread my quick comment as “a curt reply,” if I didn’t think yours was a legitimate question I wouldn’t have bothered to make the suggestion I did. The reason I did make the suggestion was because I remembered a long discussion on this very subject recently that I thought you might find useful.
Funny how someone can make so many assumptions from an attempt to be helpful!!
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shannierae
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As I said before newcomer.. it seems to me still you have a burr up ur butt, but anyway, thanks for your reply. But, I did look for this very subject and found none, that is why I asked. The only thing I found on this subject was something about years ago, which I am not concerned with.
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Hi shannierae!
Sorry you misread my quick comment as “a curt reply,” if I didn’t think yours was a legitimate question I wouldn’t have bothered to make the suggestion I did. The reason I did make the suggestion was because I remembered a long discussion on this very subject recently that I thought you might find useful.
Funny how someone can make so many assumptions from an attempt to be helpful!!

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newcomer
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While I was sitting here perfectly comfortably and happy with my life here in Egypt, I looked up the discussions I was referring to and here they are: http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum2/HTML/002181.html http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum2/HTML/002020.html http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum2/HTML/002019.html http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum2/HTML/000083.html http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum3/HTML/000145.html
Happy reading!
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ExptinCAI
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newcomer, you're certainly a patient one to be this helpful after such a nasty reply.
shan- sorry, but people don't like to rehash topics over and over again. topics that don't get many responses have typically been discussed in detail before. you're reading sarcasm where none exists
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Originally posted by shannierae:
Please can someone help me??? I need to know if an Egyptian man enters the Egyptian Army if anyone know's if he can marry?? And to an american woman?

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If he was in the army to do his duty as a solider not an officer yes he can marry an american woman as soon as he finish his time.
i was in the army and as soon as i finished i married an american woman and we have been married for over 4 years now it's no problem at all.
Good luck
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Debbie
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Yeah Shannierae- I hope your romance works out, but hey... lighten up!, please.
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shannierae
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Registered: Feb 2004 posted 28 February 2004 07:11 AM

newcomer.. Thank you for the links.. have not had a chance to come online and tell you I appreciate the links. and wsir, thank you also for the information. The problem is.. as of yet the guy has not entered service, he is to go on 3/2 and see if they take him, I was wanting to know this as I want to marry him as soon as possible. And you guys need to keep in mind that we new people don't know as much about this site as the one's that have been here for some time. So have patience with we newer ones. Thanks
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newcomer, you're certainly a patient one to be this helpful after such a nasty reply.
shan- sorry, but people don't like to rehash topics over and over again. topics that don't get many responses have typically been discussed in detail before. you're reading sarcasm where none exists

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newcomer
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Registered: Jun 2002 posted 28 February 2004 11:38 AM

Hi shannierae!
Glad you found the links useful.
If they defer the admission to the army, it may be possible to marry then, otherwise it would appear that you may have to wait until he is discharged. May whatever is the best for both of you be the result!
But can I give you a bit of advice...it doesn't matter whether you are new to the board or not, in general people are usually more willing to offer help if you are polite when asking for it. If people take the time to answer your questions it is usually a good idea when you are reading a response to at least initially, assume that it was written in good faith! Hope you enjoy the rest of your time on the board and find useful answers to your questions.
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Stacia
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Registered: Nov 2003 posted 06 March 2004 05:16 PM

Shannierae,
Oh my gosh!!! I can't believe I didn't see your post earlier...so sorry for that. Speaking from first hand experience, I am an American and my husband is an officer on an oil tanker ship. He and I were already married and the Egyptian military sent for him at his place of residence (his parents house) and within one month he had quit his job and was in the military. So, in answer to your question, YES, YES, YES!!! My husband and I thought there was no way possible for this to happen, but it did, with no explanation from the Egyptian military or government. He served his time in the Egyptian Navy at a small base in the Red Sea. So unless we were an unsual case, there really are no guidelines like the egyptian government claims as to who can serve in the military and who cannot. Hope this information helps, sorry it's not such good news. Let me know if you have any other questions, or you need more details. Stacia

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Originally posted by aicha:
What about army in egypt? How long does it takes and what can we do to avoid going to army?

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Possibly the better approach to the question is whether can go AWOL during his mandatory service or as a officier.

I was assuming that aicha was refering to mandatory service. Which since half of my husband male relatives were officiers, mandatory is mandatory. If you freak out and start making trouble then it result in deportation.

For an officier it might be different. My husband's relatives who recieved training at an American military base watched other officiers marry an American woman on the sly and then had the marriage registered with both governments (legit marriage). Then he was deported from USA and recieved military punishment and the marriage was invalidated. Most of the officiers giving a chance to train the USA are warned about this ahead of time and must sign a release.

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Originally posted by Penny:
Let the man be a man and do his duty to his country. His sons will look up to him one day and he will be a much better husband for it.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Penny:
[b] Let the man be a man and do his duty to his country. His sons will look up to him one day and he will be a much better husband for it.

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The one that saw my nephew join the British marines at the age of 20 and by the age of 22 he had served in Afganistan and Iraq. Now at 23 he is a man I look up to and am very proud to have as a member of my family.

In my homecountry you can chose whether you serve your time in the military or do civil service and I always had more respect for those guys who chose the latter.

Apart from this I think spending time in the Egyptian army is anything but a pleasant experience for most ...

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Originally posted by ExptinCAI:
I also never got how having someone clean for you, cook your food for you, tell you what to wear, tell you what time you have to get up and go to sleep, not having to worry about paying rent, and having a job which you excell at only if you follow orders exactly and blindly... makes you a "man" somehow.

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On the practical matters it teaches them completely how to take care of themselves be it cooking, cleaning, ironing the lot. Then look at the situations they have to face in places like Afghanistan and Iraq ( whether you agree with whats going on or not). Yes they follow orders but they need one hell of a lot of initative and courage in what they do. They are also taught so many practical skills be it mechanics, engineering, driving etc. If this is not preparation for life then I don't know what is.