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I know an Egyptian woman (Muslim) who married an American guy from here in Michigan. She married him in Egypt. From the pics I've seen her family seemed cool with it. Everyone looked happy and she was an absolutely gorgeous bride. They are a very happy, beautiful couple..mash'allah.
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I think egyptian muslim women prefer to marry muslim man,not just because of the family,but also because they think he's gonna be better husband, because he's a muslim,but it's not ordinance as you can see Madame M.'s story.
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The American man converted in order to marry this woman but they aren't very religious. Muslim women MUST marry Muslim men. Otherwise it's considered adultery.
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I know about that,why do you think is it like that?I mean why muslim can marry another girls with other religion and muslim girl have to marry only muslim man?
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Sure,I know,but the REASON is....? The problem is that muslims,know Quran but not meaning and answers when someone asks.So why is it like that?
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The main reason is...according to Islam the child has the religion of his father. Therefore, if a Muslim woman has a child with a Christian or Jewish man the child would be Christian or Jewish. As Muslims we should follow what the Quran (and Sunnah)says. We believe the Quran is the word of God.
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Unfair!!!Just unfair.Woman is lessful and everything is about the man.Why should have my child be a muslim just because Quran says so?The child has right to choose later what or who is going to be.There is something more important that Quran never said and it is human feelings!So let's give freedom to our kids untill they will be old enough and they will be decide what is a good for them!
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Calm down, Marcella. When it comes to your own children whatever you do is between you, your hubby, and God. We can't change Islam to please everyone. You gotta take it or leave it. Sorry.
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It just seems natural to me. It's my chosen religion not one that my parents or anyone else chose for me. It's not for everyone though.
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Nothing is wrong with Christianity. It's one of the 3 monotheistic faiths. I just didn't agree with it so I reverted to Islam.
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quote:Originally posted by Madame M.: Nothing is wrong with Christianity. It's one of the 3 monotheistic faiths. I just didn't agree with it so I reverted to Islam.
So are you taking ALL islam with everything? You haven't found anything you dont agree with?
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"it" the claim that Muslim woman can't marry Christian man. In Sudan, a month back, a Muslim woman married a christian man by Fatwa from one of Sudan famous scholars.
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I think we all have things within our respective religions that we wonder about. But between Islam and Christianity..I find FAR more things I believe in and agree with in Islam. The biggies being..I don't believe Jesus is the son of God nor do I believe he is God in the flesh.
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quote:Originally posted by Madame M.: I think we all have things within our respective religions that we wonder about. But between Islam and Christianity..I find FAR more things I believe in and agree with in Islam. The biggies being..I don't believe Jesus is the son of God nor do I believe he is God in the flesh.
But no one say Jesus is a real son of God.If you was a christian you should have understand that.
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quote:Originally posted by Lazeez: "it" the claim that Muslim woman can't marry Christian man. In Sudan, a month back, a Muslim woman married a christian man by Fatwa from one of Sudan famous scholars.
What is your point?That women in islamic countries are absolutely free to marry whoever thay want to?
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My point is, not all Muslims believe that Islam prevents Muslim women from marrying Christian men
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I was Catholic for 20 yrs of my life. I was baptized, took first communion, made confirmation, did confession, took 10 yrs of catechism...I think I understood what they were teaching me. If I had a dime for everytime I heard about Jesus being the son of God I'd be rich. Yeah I understand that God didn't physically impregnate Mary, istafirallah.
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quote:Originally posted by Lazeez: Marce, you're not the Qur'an, are you?
You are not the one who knows Quran and you know I'm right.And don't be rude.Just try explain why is there such a thing?
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The Islam of the Prophet (pbuh) is one of equanimity to all Christian and Muslim alike. The problem is the narrowmindedness of many who claim they have divine revelation to destroy but not to educate the women and children of society.
That definately is not Islam. He who speaks against this will figuratively and methaphorically lose his head in the matter!!!
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quote:Originally posted by Lazeez: Marce, you're not the Qur'an, are you?
You are not the one who knows Quran and you know I'm right.And don't be rude.Just try explain why is there such a thing?
Actually Marcella, Lazeez is correct in what he says, there are some Muslim scholars who do believe that a Muslim woman is not prohibited from marrying a non-Muslim man. It is a minority opinion, based on their interpretation of the Qur'an, and you will find most Muslim scholars disagreeing with it, but this opinion does exist.
There are some things in Islam that are black and white, but there are a lot of areas that are open to interpretation. What you learn as you study the subject more, is whose opinions are the most reliable and based on the most reliable sources.
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quote:Originally posted by ' Sharon Stone ': If you are an Egyptian woman would you ever date/engage/marry an American?
I am just curious. What ladies in Egypt overall think of American men?
Maybe it happens but I never heard of an American man going for an Egyptian girl... you put it in the context of would an egyptian girl like an american guy, I think the biggest question is the other way around. I can't see it happening easily that an american man would be into an egyptian girl, just different and from what I have seen of our american men, they like different things in women, and egyptian women (generally) don't have it.
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You have a point, Smuckers. Some American men may dig the exotic looks of Egyptian women (kinda like how we dig the men ) but I don't know if they would deal with some of their behaviors.
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And what exactly about the American men that makes them unable to communicate with non American women? less communication skills than American women?
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quote:Originally posted by ' Sharon Stone ': If you are an Egyptian woman would you ever date/engage/marry an American?
I am just curious. What ladies in Egypt overall think of American men?
Well, decent Egyptian families don't like to give their girls out to Non Egyptians, it's a protective beaviour. As for the ladies, for most of them I bet marrying non Egyptian isn't something that corsses their minds unlike many Egyptian men who think of marrying Non Egyptian particulary western women usually for a reason related to the difficulty of marrying an Egyptian woman.
Egyptian men are traditionally discribed in a way that makes the choice of non Egyptian man usually a last resort except for women who have a good contact with non Egyptians and can find something different than what they grew up on.
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By less communication skills does that mean we don't yell and screech like banshees and have a voices like snakes?
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American men voices didn't sound to me like snake talk. Is that how they sound like to American women?
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No..American mens' voices vary. I was talking about the Egy women when I referred to the snake like voices.
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quote:Originally posted by Madame M.: I didn't mean you're a cab driver
You did, but probably not intentionally.
Ya rais is being used to address cab drivers, bauwabs etc., for an educated person you would use different expressions.
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quote:Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers: Maybe it happens but I never heard of an American man going for an Egyptian girl...
I have. And I've also seen men of German and other nationalities falling in love with Egyptian women and eventually marrying them.
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quote:Originally posted by Dalia*: Ya rais is being used to address cab drivers, bauwabs etc., for an educated person you would use different expressions.
not true.
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u wouldnt address your doctor in egypt with anything BUT "ya doctoor" ... unless u wanna risk losing a kidney in that operation u had scheduled.
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